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- How Many Debates Did you Watch Recently?
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This is a good reminder to not get caught up in that cycle of watching endless debate videos in search of entertaining 'gotcha' moments. Jazakallah khair, I needed to hear that.
listen to the scholars, not to charlatans like ali dawah, mohammad hijab
I literally know a close friend who recently started doubting islam because he watched or heard lots of these arguments slandering islam.
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These stuff truly are dangerous. Please don't let your loved ones waste their time on them.
these people do no understand, scdawah and other "dawah" channels. It brings them fame for their intellectual philosophical prowess and money, so they keep doing it. charlatans like ali dawah mohamad hijab smile2jannah marketing themselves at the sake of of islam
this is why the scholars say laymen should not listen to debates, they are to be done privately and are called مناظرة in arabic, because these people can deceive the weak of heart, may allah protect muslims from being from them
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Brother, Islam is the truth. No one should be scared about having a debate if he believes it's the truth.
All the prophets, peace be upon them all, suffered countless years while "debating" with the disbelievers, because they KNEW it was the truth.
Alhamdulillah, Allah SWT has blessed us with many great debaters that can defend Islam using the Quran and Sunna, and modern science.
@@ahuman9882 brother, this is not applicable for most people in real life. Simply getting exposed to these types of arguments end up making some people grow doubts and it decreases their iman.
In general it is best to avoid getting yourself or people you know in possible trouble by getting into or watching these debates.
Acute observation and so necessary now. Most people are too lazy and distracted to focus properly.😢
Once I left all of these debates my understanding of Islam and Iman greatly increased al hamdu lillah leaving the "dawah scene" content was the best decision I could have made, may Allah reward you sheikh for your sincere advice and guidance
same here
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته أستاذنا
جزآكم الله خيرا
I wanted to thank you for the work you do, always calling to tawheed via Quran and sunnah
I wanted to let you know that you inspired me to apply for Islamic university of madinah, also aiming for kulliyatul Dawah + usool ad deen
بارك الله فيكم
Very important point
JazakAllahu khairan my dear brother Saajid. May Allah (SWT) unite the Ummah upon Truth and reconciliation and prevent us from wasting our time on non-beneficial things AMEEN
Alhamdulillah I stopped watching debates long ago. I advise everyone to go benefit from actual beneficial youtube channels like Al Madrasatu Al Umariyyah
@@AH-il8sp Quran and Authentic hadith would be enough. If you were to be sincere and not be lazy then you should advice to read Quran and Authentic hadith rather recommending a youtube channel.
@servantofthemerciful3511 so you're claiming I'm not sincere, lol. What an accusation. Are you aware that you should have good thoughts of your brothers and sisters and not to have negative assumptions. The reason I recommended a CZcams channel is because many layman Muslims may not know where to start. Unfortunately, even deviants claim to take from Qur'an and Sunnah, and as a result, many people may go down the wrong path, and that's why I recommended them.
@@servantofthemerciful3511 ^
@@servantofthemerciful3511 read above
Subhanallah this is so true. I recently came to terms with this, and had to unfollow a couple accounts due this particular issue. It’s not only problematic for the viewers but also the creators as well. They are just distractions at the end of the day. We should busy ourselves with seeking knowledge. JazakAllahu Khayran for bringing attention to this matter.
Alhamdulilah I'm not into debates whether it's about Islam or other topics
This by far most recommended
Leaning and implement
Jazakallahu khairan
This is very important. jazak Allah khayr
jazak Allah khair ,dont stop those reminders we need it in this time
جزاك الله خيرا
I really needed that reminder.
May Allah increase your faith and knowledge
I listen to long lectures not debates
@@cutlet9227 read books not stick to lectures.
@@servantofthemerciful3511 Jazakallah khair for the advise. I have bought some beginner books like, uthooluh salaasa, kitaab ah tawheed, aqeeqathul waasithiyya. Names if someone else is interested.
Learning Tawheed properly is what we need to do.
True, thank you for the advice brother
It was good and fun a couple years ago until.. wait a minute, I learned how to respond to specific questions rather then being taught to respond to many questions by sincere individuals; that’s how I almost became arrogant & overly proud without even learning a proper section of my religion! Debates are good but not many of them! Thanks brother Saajid.
I really needed to watch this video. What an important video.
Debates are overrated. Why subject yourself to swine who may insult your religion and Nabi (SAW)? Quality beats quantity when it comes to that sort of format.
السلام عليكم اخي ساجد
جزاك الله خير على كل محتوى تقدمه عبر قناتك.
Jazakallah khair I needed this
Shaykh Muqbil bin Hādi al-Wādi‘ee, [may Allāh bestow mercy upon him], said:
“Debates, disputes, and conflicts often stem from idle time. Conversely, individuals devoted to memorising the Qur’ān, writing, researching, Arabic language comprehension, calligraphy and spreading the Word of Allāh in His cause find it difficult to allocate time for such controversies and conflicts.”
Al-Jāmi‘ al-Kabeer, 2/478 | Shaykh Muqbil bin Hādi al-Wādi‘ee, [may Allāh bestow mercy upon him]
Thats the best advice i heared from you. Debares are used to shine people of innovation now days so the layman get confused thinking of them to be a role model and whatever they say and do is from islam. May Allah guide us and keep us on the straight path.
Asalam allaykum brother saajid, that k you for this video. This is so true , may almighty Allah keep strengthen us.
Amazing video and I had this exact issue
جزاك الله خيرا والله يهدي الجميع
Keep right balance as per your personality ☝️⚖️☔👨👩👧👦👨👩👧👦💐
Learn and implement, that’s how to grow.
The favourite reason people say they do this (especially labeling others and debating viciously) is supposedly encouraging good and forbidding evil. When u tell them worry about your own akhirah they get offended and say you're not a proper Muslim yourself 😂. JazakAllah khair brother Saajid for reminding us to stay on the sunnah.
Good reminder. May Allah guide us
Thank you for the knowledge my brother. youre right we need to actually consume islamic content rather content that RELATES to islam
Be patient brothers
Salam aleikum, thank you brother for the message this is indeed very needed, but one might argue and say If my religion is the truth then I prove it to myself by eliminating all the criticism, but speaking from my perspective I have been stuck in this cycle for a while now. I hear criticism I go and search about and then debunk it. But this is taking really a lot of time of my day and maybe I inshallah I’ll try to ignore these things and focus more on learning.
the moment you treat Islam's obvious and intuitive (fitri) foundations like any other theoretical claim and start using propositional arguments that are even less obvious than what you're trying to defend, you've undermined Islam. there are good ways to defend Islam's foundations, what we see in debates is not one of them, even if it has some good in it.
The algorithm heavily pushes debates and arguments between Muslims and non Muslims. And another type of islamic content I see being pushed forward heavily is Muslim youtubers commenting on things happening online. But if we are talking about pure quran and hadith.... I see it from accounts that post it but I rarely see the algorithm pushing quran and hadith forward.
Can you make a video on the best way to learn the religion? Best resources?
Start with the tawheed and the aqeeda
Start with the four principles by Muhammad Abdul-wahhab
Then three fundamental principles also by Muhammad abdul-wahhab
Then move to Al-aqeedah Al wasitiyah by Ibn Taymeyyah
Also with the Quran every day bc it's the main book along with learn like 5 hadiths every day or 4,3 days a week
Start with Umdatul Ahkam
Make sure you memorize the Quran, hadith, and the small books like the first two ones I recommended
And the most important part is to find a good sheikh who has the correct aqeeda and explains them
If you can't understand Arabic, then I recommend to learn how to read and understand it first bc it will improve and help you alot
Specially with finding books and the scholars who explain them.
Allahummabarik
I'll be honest he's speaking the truth.
Well said Sajid.
Well said.
Although I disagree with you on minor things, but this is a very good reminder.
People shouldn't go watch debates before they are well founded.
I think there are 2 primary reasons why people watch debates,
1- They believe they are bound to meet non-Muslims - with how digital social networks are - and they will probably ask about the common doubts about Islam, hence they want to respond in a compelling way that doesn't give bad image about Muslims, that is, Muslims believe things because they make sense(not the physical aspect) rather than just because their parents were Muslims.
2- Debates are entertaining and they are one of the best ways to laze around and lie to yourself that you are actually putting your time to a good use.
Now the second one is an issue but it's not easy to address as it has got to do with the individual himself.
I believe the first one deserves more attention, it was the reason for me to watch some debates.
Debates satisfy the urgent need of feeling unthreatened. Here is a scenario to explain this.
Imagine a person doing any digital social activity or non digital, and then some aggressive non-Muslim recognizes the Muslim person and start asking him in front of others some doubts about Islam that makes it look bad. Now the Muslim probably doesn't have a response to these, and even if he does, it's probably not very compelling. Now the best option is to leave the scene with this bad feeling that 'I have mad Islam look bad because I couldn't respond to these doubts'. Now note that this happened during the usual daily life of the Muslim and he is afraid to have it happen again, so he rushes to research common doubts about Islam with the goal of not making Islam look bad.
And thus as long as there are doubts this individual doesn't have answers for, he feel threatened in his daily life.
In this case, the option of starting from the fundamentals and building the understanding of Islam is not available, not because it's not desired, but because the peace and calmness of this person has been disturbed and he wants to regain balance in the fastest way possible, and in his understanding, that's through debates and the arguments made for Islam in those debates.
i spent along time without watching debates and i learned alot about deen...then i started watching scholars warning about certain people and it got me into a loop for the last month
Yes i learned alot about hizbies like sayid qotob and ikhwanies nowdays but going into a endless loop of it isn't very helpfull i have so much free time and i spent so little of it reading Quran and doing acts of worship
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Agreed
Debates are always interesting and has an emotional level to create drama and entertainment. Instead of becoming a platform of learning new things , going back to al Quran and Sunnah, it becomes a circus show theatrics. Also part of eman is to believe Islam is right why would you want to debate or hear a debate when you know something is right snd the truth, you don’t debate if gravity exist or not or sun rises on east same way you don’t debate Islam is the right religion, it is just redundant.
Sadly many people forget the basics and fundamentals of Islam like Arkan el Iman , Arkan al Islam and word of tawheed.
In the Quran says the stories you listen is to learn from it and not for entertainment.
I don’t watch them for that tho. I watch them to be able to defend Islam. To be able to give dawah.
Learn and Implement
Is this how to address doubts?
Seeking distraction?!
No!!! Debates are not full of knowledge. Let me tell you about my experience. I watched these debates and seriously started to doubt Islam. Then I took a short, simple course on aqeedah. Than I realised all those doubts were basic level ignorance. All of them has been answer just from a single course of islamic studies 😂 so Muslims who don't have a practicing islamic background or knowledge it's easy to get lost.
gain islamic knowledge from a scholar ☑️
Not CZcams debates ❎
Debates should be last resort to gain knowledge
@@jojos9788 so the Muslim speakers were not able to convey those basic level knowledge in the debate?
@@NICHTVONBEDEUTUNG1well debates are not for knowledge
Their objective is to win
They are match
But the point is
Debates are only as good as the debater
On simply knowledge basis you can't win
You have to do a lot more
Generally
Debate is two ways
Before
Mainstream debaters
They would just defend
But now they are on the offensive
Debates are based on morality
Not on logic
Logic is
I punched it hurt
Morality is was it wrong or was it right
So if you are seeking knowledge that means logic
Debates are useless
But if you are seeking moral back and forth then go ahead
and unless a debater is agressive meaning actively destroying the other party their arguments as humiliatingly then there is no point
@@jojos9788you doubted what
Morality
Doubt is in logic
@@User-jyvdtd You are right, that often debates are about morality, but there are also debates about logic (for example about scientific miracles or science in general).
So it just depends on what kind of debate one is watching, some provide new knowledge
But its not entirely debates fault,its mostly because we stumble accross bad comment about islam that made us watching those debates,so we can coping around aswering those doubts that living in our head.
Sajid is very right but in the case where a lot of Muslims have become liberalised or are going that way,It's useful to see a reliable speaker deal with theses things.Scary how many will find their loved ones affected with really bad ideologies or twisted additions into their iman even as far a 40 to 50 yr old men and women and beyond.Of course just listen to the Muslims response in cases like this,don't bother listening in depth to the non Muslim or liberal Muslims side (only briefly understand what it's about they fight against). Also again I stress make sure it's very reliable Muslim speakers.
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I heavily disagree. You need to know what types of criticisms or questions non Muslims have towards Islam and know how to respond and have the answers at least for yourself. We live in a world where people will throw doubts at you but at least debates demonstrate how to kill that doubt.
I don't watch debates often but when I do I only listen to the Muslim part because I can't stand the non-Muslim's waffling
I agree full heartedly with your point brother Sajid however it is not a matter of "you need to pick one" rather we actually need to both learn the deen and to eliminate the false accusations of the non muslims, yes the debate content is widely more popular on youtube (even though most of the debaters behaviour is not appropriate either due to their lack of experience or the overwhelm of the attacks and threats they recieve in the west but we should highlight their good intentions and to not push them over their power) the ummah now is at a weak state and the west right wings has gone absolutely wild over the" isntreal" and their decades old vicious plans collapse, also alhamdulilah the teachings of islam are widely available online and offline and we have many scholars to preserve the deen but sadly the enemies of islam contol the media and we need more people to stop the most important modern threat of our age
Debates are not good most of the time
I wouldn't say debates are not good because they do benefit those who are looking for the truth and can help you strenghten your belief. But for the average Muslim, who doesn't even know his religion, his focus should be on learning the deen first, rather than learning how to reject others' religions. But I agree with Saajid, priority should be given to learning first.
None
Quran and sunnah based lessons on video 100%
Debates with kuffar 0%
Al-hamdou lillah
Debates are nice way to know answer to questions
I can't tell you how many times people have in doubt because suddenly their non muslims friends 😂 friends ok ok
Ask them simple questions and they can't even give explanation
Through debates
I saw the flaws of other
Don't let any criticise you
Hit em back their ideology whatever it is first identify their nonsense
Its not even logical
Morality is not logic
Simple example
You shot a person
This is logic now the you shot the person gonna get shot if you aimed correctly
Was it right or was it wrong
Now this is completely made up
By atheist as
If there is no divine morality then why should I bother with anything
K anybody r any women steal and cheat
There are no consequences so why bother
you get my point
Debates are to be logical not emotional.
Morality is highly based on emotions
Harming is harming
Neither good nor bad
And a human won't tell what is right and wrong
as they can't
If somebody is debating a non-Muslim about Islam, that doesn't mean they are using islam for clout. I don't think you were right on this one.
To be clear: I agree, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are doing it for clout in every case. Allahu Alim, Allah knows and will judge their intentions. I was mentioning that as a reminder.
Al Khaleefah Umar bin ‘Abdul ‘Aziz (d. 101H) said: “Whoever establishes his religion on the basis of the strength of debating and argumentation will constantly be changing (his beliefs).” collected by ad-Dārimi
We must follow the quraan and sunnah upon the way of the salaf as saalih. These internet debaters are not scholars who are الراسخون في العلم or firmly grounded in Islamic knowledge. We must know whom we can take knowledge from in the religion.
may Allaah Almighty guide them and us to learn our own religion of Islam.
Debates are cheap entertainment. Not knowledge.
Speaker’s Corner is a POISON!
So you're saying if a non-Muslim lies about islam, we shouldn't debunk them?
Debunking isn't the same as back and forth debating with khinzir.