I have owned a popup for twenty years and have traveled across the country from main to California. I have experienced 120 degree temps in the desert southwest and freezing cold on the coast of Maine. It's true that you can't use your popup in the dead of winter but most days,if it's dry, you can comfortably use your popup down to freezing. I consider camping an adventure and really look forward to it every time I go out. Just remember that RV's are only a means to an end. Get something that's practical and spend your money on the adventure.
I Don't understand... My Pop up tent take me 10 min tu set up. I live in canada. Next time go buy a ceramic heater for 10$ in Wlamart if you miss gass.... just blug it in. There is always a good solution if you try harder to find the solution.
Unless you have shore power that heater will tap your battery out quick. There is ceramic propane too, but properly vented, it'll have a hard time heating up all that space in the cold fall/winter time. Plus ceramic propane makes a lot of condensation on the inside of the vinyl. The forced hot air of a popup is a big draw for me.
You are so right about buying a used one. We started as tenters, then went to a used pop up. We decided during a weekend camping we wanted to upgrade, brought it home, put it back up, my husband put it up for sale online that night and had someone come to buy it within two hours. And we made money on it! It's such a great way to get your toes wet and learn about camping! Now we are still happily camping!! Can't wait to read that new book!!!
The wife and i just purchased a brand new pop up for 4k less than the MSRP.they wanted 13k and we get it for just under 9k.it still was wrapped in plastic.we have only been out once(thanks covid) but we love it and the payment is just over 100 dollars a month.we keep it in the garage and cant wait to get out again.
I don't agree with the general statement that pop ups are on the pathway to larger RVs. I had a pop up, went the travel trailer later, and now I am entering the pop up world again. Also, you financed your 1st pop up. There are many people, including me, that any "toy", meaning RVs, guns, boats etc. shouldn't be financed. The old adage, if you don't have the money, don't buy it. "no propane" was also a personal mistake, not generic to the pop up community. After having the larger RV, I am looking forward to pop up towing size, versus bad gas mileage and other problems that are included with a larger RV, not to forget $$$ to store a larger one.
So here's what brought me here and I would LOVE to get your opinion. We love camping and adventuring all over Florida where we live. We are currently tent campers with a HUGE 10x13x7 tent that we cover with a huge silver tarp with a 12.5k btu portable ac. Summertime is brutal. When the sun is not beating straight down the tent can get down to 68° by evening, but during the day.. sucks. We tried in the keys and it was brutal. My biggest issue is my truck is the Chevy Colorado 4 cylinder so it's towing load is only 3500, so finding a trailer that can fit the 3 of us comfortably (I'm 6'5) and come in under the weight limit is proving very difficult. Here is our two delimas. 1) we like break camp early so alot of times there moisture and sometimes when it's foggy, we will have water dripping off our stuff. Packing a tent in the rain or moisture sucks...and I know you have to do alot of set up and tear down w a pop up. 2) the heat, I know a pop up isn't insulated like a full trailer. But I know it's thicker than a tent, soooo not sure about that. So exactly like you said I don't want to drop a ton of money on a new unit. There are several used on FB. I don't want to spend a bunch on a ln enclosed and not be within weight and mess up my (finally) paid off truck. One other thought as a last resort, we could down size our tent slightly, less volume = less air to have to cool. So I have been trying to find someone who has been there done that, and it looks like I found you. Looking forward to any information you could provide. Also, we don't require much, we really don't need a bathroom, we don't need a sink or stove inside. (Which may come in handy if it's raining) But other than that, we always just use the cam grounds amenities. Thanks so much
My buddy and I take our kids camping together several times each season. He has a pop up.. and we usually tent camp. Two seasons ago we got caught in down pouring rain for the entire weekend and it was nice that we had the pop up to hang out in during the rain. My friend initially liked his pop up but after having it for several years.. he has mixed feeling about them and says he'd rather have a regular camper than a pop up. Last year.. I was thinking of getting a pop up.. but decided to convert a cargo trailer instead. I already had the trailer.. so it seemed the sensical thing to do. It worked out perfectly. So anyone looking into pop-up campers.. I suggest considering a cargo trailer conversion too. Cheers. :)
We've had a popup for 20 years, camped all the time with the kids as they were growing up. It's still in great shape. Bought it for 4K - so only a few hundred bucks a year averaged out. We can set it up in about 20 min, but that's after lots of practice. When my daughter did her first forest service job, she spent a Montana winter in it - we added a lot of rigid foam to it.
I guess we're the classic example. Started with tent camping, borrowed, then rented a small pop-up for a few years, bought a larger more deluxe pop-up, now we're ready for a travel trailer. After 10 years of owning we don't need to get a lot for our current one to be satisfied, we've had good use out of it, camping for almost a month per year. I agree entirely with your point about set-up and break-down. Not bad if you plan to stay in one place for a while but out of the question for travel when you only stay a night or two. We have to haul all of the outside stuff that stores in the pop-up out, then haul all of the inside stuff into it from the tow vehicle.
I totally love our used pop up❤! We bought it about 3 yrs ago and have used it about 5 times. We usually camp during warm months so the cold has not been a factor. I dont use the indoor sink. I use the indoor stove only to make coffee early mornings then all cooking is moved outside. My husband wants to upgrade to one with a toilet and shower cause it's a must for us with our special needs daughter. I'm getting bit with the renovation bug pretty bad so I'm hoping he'll decide soon if we're upgrading (used of course). Thanks for your video and tips 😉
If you're coming from tent camping pop ups are a lot easier. I think once you get the hang of it they're not hard to set either. But I'm not camping with a big family so if you are I can see why it may not be right for you.
After my first year in my used pop up I had a propane heater installed. Saved my butt so many times on those cold Rocky Mountain nights and extended my camping season by several months
I started out with a good used Airstream and hated everything about it. It wasn't like camping at all. Too many limitations. Now I am looking for a good small popup.
14 years of 3 (12) foot popup campers and hybrid camper. Back in popup camper now. 12 feet high wall. I primarily Boondocker and do extreme cold with popup gizmos. You can fail any camper not prepared for conditions.
The advise is great, but I have to point out that the constant “talking over each other” moments are so distracting that, at the end of it all, is what the viewer remembers. Thank you for the good talking points.
The only minor objection I have to popups is that though they usually feature two huge beds, and maybe a convertible dinette for sleeping a family with kids, my wife and I are empty-nesters. We need more interior space for living, and just a simple queen or even double bed for sleeping. Maybe we need an Aliner.
IMO everyone should try tent camping to learn the work involved and to get outdoors for the cheapest price point. $300 at Walmart can get you the basic gear for some nice favorable weather camping. Maybe you won't even like camping. If you do, the main reason you go pop up is the built in HVAC and secondarily, the living space. To extend your season, the propane forced hot air for the spring/fall & an AC for summer. My concern is if you buy used, how good is that 20 year old vinyl going to be? Although any new RV off the lot will have problems because they are made so haphazardly.
Rent a cabin at a camp ground first. Do that a few times and see if you even like it. I want a trailer so bad but it just does not make sense for me. I would use it maybe 10 times a year at best. 15 days x 100.00 = 1500.00 dollars to rent a cabin on and off for a year. It would take me 4 years at best to break even buying a used decent pop up or camping trailer = 6k. So for me renting a cabin once in a while and getting it out of my system works best for me. And don't forget insurance, taxes, registration, title. etc... Are you paying to store it, then add that as well, Up keep, add-ons, extras for the trailer. The list goes on and on.
@@amykelly-vega6355 not an official one that I know of, Watch as many reviews as possible on youtube, talk to anyone you know that owns one, and if you watch craigs list and Facebook market place after a while you will begin to better understand what a fair price is. I know for me if I bought one I would want it to be pretty nice that's why I said 6k in my previous post. You can get them much cheaper but they will not be as nice of course.
A lot of these pricing assumptions/comments are inaccurate in the current Covid world we exist in.... They are no longer depreciating, prices are high, used ones almost impossible to find and are almost as expensive as new ones right now....If you have lots of tools, lots of time to fix, and lots of mechanical ability, consider a very old popup. New is best right now, but they are often already sold before the shipment arrives at the dealer's lot.
This is all salesman B.S., The fuel you save towing a pop up camper can get you a hotel room for overnight stays until you reach your final destination. If you run out of propane you will freeze in a travel trailer too. If you aren't Setting Camp and Breaking Camp, You aren't Camping.
Regarding the time it takes to setup/takedown, is it more/less than tent camping? Seems like it would still be faster than packing up cots, bags, tents, coolers, kitchen gear etc, no?
Pop up basically a tent on wheels. Need license,insurance, taxes, place to park it. That being said I would not want to go back to a tent .Still have to carry most stuff in tow vehicle. Tent is for the young. Pop up for the not so young. I’m in the latter group.
Very helpful, thanks so much you two! We are exactly the people you made this video for, thinking of trying out a pop up when we've never camped before. We will take your advice and continue to research before buying a USED pop up. : ) Very entertaining.
I’d like to get a pop up but the wife doesn’t like the idea of how they work. I was thinking about getting a tear drop camper instead. Right now it’s just us and our 1 son. We might have a 2nd kid in the next year or 2. Not sure if a tear drop would be good for a family of 4
Don't buy one unless you can stand the noise from rain hitting the canvas, the lack of privacy due to noise escaping from inside the camper, the having to set up the camper to dry out the canvas after you get home from a rainy trip, the usual lack of a shower , the usual can't run the refer. while traveling, the usual ice box baby sitting with ice melting away, less room to store stuff especially while traveling, hard to cool, hard to heat. No! Don't get one. ISH!!!!
Just found you two really like this first video. Sorry m name is Bodie Miller. I have had a pop up and three travel trailers. What I am thinking about believe it or I am thinking about going back to a pop up. Any thoughts on that.
First pop up we bought was junk. Didn’t loose much since it was cheep. Bought new one then traded for travel trailer. Depreciation killed us few years later. Had to sell because of wife’s health. Bought used pop up three years ago. Sold it at slight loss so I could buy used one with AC. Paid cash. My pop ups were more roomy than my trailer. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Keep it simple
If you bought new for $12,000 and sold it for $4,000 2 years later you must have sold it back to the dealer. He turned it around for $8,000 I'm betting. But that's just how it works, dealer has to eat too. Same thing happens with cars. Trade in value is not the same as if you do the work to sell it yourself.
@@daytondave3034 Well, that is not out of line for how RV's depreciate. Like cars the first couple years are brutal. But I bought a used popup many years ago for $5,000, used it for 4 years, and sold it for $3,500, so the depreciation rate drops which is also like cars. But don't get me wrong I am still a fan of popups, for lots of campers they are ideal especially if you don't have $150,000 to drop on a truck and trailer.
Organize what each of you will say and then each of you can add more to what the other said when their done. I enjoyed your video, but the interruptions were distracting
So let me get this straight... You guy didnt like to set up your pop up? Thats why you guys look like a double zero next to each other. Get that exercise in lol
I have owned a popup for twenty years and have traveled across the country from main to California. I have experienced 120 degree temps in the desert southwest and freezing cold on the coast of Maine. It's true that you can't use your popup in the dead of winter but most days,if it's dry, you can comfortably use your popup down to freezing. I consider camping an adventure and really look forward to it every time I go out. Just remember that RV's are only a means to an end. Get something that's practical and spend your money on the adventure.
They were total newbie doing everything wrong with a popup
We took eight from Ohio to Mexico City Mexico back in 1973. I slept on the floor half under the dinette. It was a blast.
Buy a nice old one and fix a few things.
Also, you can rent one for a weekend to see if you even like them.
I Don't understand... My Pop up tent take me 10 min tu set up. I live in canada. Next time go buy a ceramic heater for 10$ in Wlamart if you miss gass.... just blug it in. There is always a good solution if you try harder to find the solution.
Unless you have shore power that heater will tap your battery out quick. There is ceramic propane too, but properly vented, it'll have a hard time heating up all that space in the cold fall/winter time. Plus ceramic propane makes a lot of condensation on the inside of the vinyl. The forced hot air of a popup is a big draw for me.
You are so right about buying a used one. We started as tenters, then went to a used pop up. We decided during a weekend camping we wanted to upgrade, brought it home, put it back up, my husband put it up for sale online that night and had someone come to buy it within two hours. And we made money on it! It's such a great way to get your toes wet and learn about camping! Now we are still happily camping!! Can't wait to read that new book!!!
Jill Avery Thanks for watching Jill! We can’t wait for the book to come out!
The wife and i just purchased a brand new pop up for 4k less than the MSRP.they wanted 13k and we get it for just under 9k.it still was wrapped in plastic.we have only been out once(thanks covid) but we love it and the payment is just over 100 dollars a month.we keep it in the garage and cant wait to get out again.
What kind/model did you get? That's a great price and we're looking.
I don't agree with the general statement that pop ups are on the pathway to larger RVs. I had a pop up, went the travel trailer later, and now I am entering the pop up world again. Also, you financed your 1st pop up. There are many people, including me, that any "toy", meaning RVs, guns, boats etc. shouldn't be financed. The old adage, if you don't have the money, don't buy it. "no propane" was also a personal mistake, not generic to the pop up community. After having the larger RV, I am looking forward to pop up towing size, versus bad gas mileage and other problems that are included with a larger RV, not to forget $$$ to store a larger one.
Amen
Don't forget about the higher insurance that comes with the RV.
I love pop-up campers. I have very low expectations, so I love my Pop-up. My best friend had one and we had the best memories ever.
So here's what brought me here and I would LOVE to get your opinion. We love camping and adventuring all over Florida where we live. We are currently tent campers with a HUGE 10x13x7 tent that we cover with a huge silver tarp with a 12.5k btu portable ac. Summertime is brutal. When the sun is not beating straight down the tent can get down to 68° by evening, but during the day.. sucks. We tried in the keys and it was brutal. My biggest issue is my truck is the Chevy Colorado 4 cylinder so it's towing load is only 3500, so finding a trailer that can fit the 3 of us comfortably (I'm 6'5) and come in under the weight limit is proving very difficult. Here is our two delimas. 1) we like break camp early so alot of times there moisture and sometimes when it's foggy, we will have water dripping off our stuff. Packing a tent in the rain or moisture sucks...and I know you have to do alot of set up and tear down w a pop up. 2) the heat, I know a pop up isn't insulated like a full trailer. But I know it's thicker than a tent, soooo not sure about that. So exactly like you said I don't want to drop a ton of money on a new unit. There are several used on FB. I don't want to spend a bunch on a ln enclosed and not be within weight and mess up my (finally) paid off truck. One other thought as a last resort, we could down size our tent slightly, less volume = less air to have to cool. So I have been trying to find someone who has been there done that, and it looks like I found you. Looking forward to any information you could provide. Also, we don't require much, we really don't need a bathroom, we don't need a sink or stove inside. (Which may come in handy if it's raining) But other than that, we always just use the cam grounds amenities. Thanks so much
My buddy and I take our kids camping together several times each season. He has a pop up.. and we usually tent camp. Two seasons ago we got caught in down pouring rain for the entire weekend and it was nice that we had the pop up to hang out in during the rain. My friend initially liked his pop up but after having it for several years.. he has mixed feeling about them and says he'd rather have a regular camper than a pop up. Last year.. I was thinking of getting a pop up.. but decided to convert a cargo trailer instead. I already had the trailer.. so it seemed the sensical thing to do. It worked out perfectly. So anyone looking into pop-up campers.. I suggest considering a cargo trailer conversion too. Cheers. :)
Joe Scopa 12 foot high wall. I go Boondocking and eat ice pops.
We've had a popup for 20 years, camped all the time with the kids as they were growing up. It's still in great shape. Bought it for 4K - so only a few hundred bucks a year averaged out. We can set it up in about 20 min, but that's after lots of practice. When my daughter did her first forest service job, she spent a Montana winter in it - we added a lot of rigid foam to it.
I guess we're the classic example. Started with tent camping, borrowed, then rented a small pop-up for a few years, bought a larger more deluxe pop-up, now we're ready for a travel trailer. After 10 years of owning we don't need to get a lot for our current one to be satisfied, we've had good use out of it, camping for almost a month per year. I agree entirely with your point about set-up and break-down. Not bad if you plan to stay in one place for a while but out of the question for travel when you only stay a night or two. We have to haul all of the outside stuff that stores in the pop-up out, then haul all of the inside stuff into it from the tow vehicle.
I totally love our used pop up❤! We bought it about 3 yrs ago and have used it about 5 times. We usually camp during warm months so the cold has not been a factor. I dont use the indoor sink. I use the indoor stove only to make coffee early mornings then all cooking is moved outside. My husband wants to upgrade to one with a toilet and shower cause it's a must for us with our special needs daughter. I'm getting bit with the renovation bug pretty bad so I'm hoping he'll decide soon if we're upgrading (used of course).
Thanks for your video and tips 😉
You two are adorable! Lots of good tips. We are tent campers so we aren't afraid of work. Thanks for the encouragement to buy a used one. Needed that.
Thank you for your honest review. I've been debating this question! It seems like it maybe isn't as convenient as I was thinking.
If you're coming from tent camping pop ups are a lot easier. I think once you get the hang of it they're not hard to set either. But I'm not camping with a big family so if you are I can see why it may not be right for you.
After my first year in my used pop up I had a propane heater installed. Saved my butt so many times on those cold Rocky Mountain nights and extended my camping season by several months
I started out with a good used Airstream and hated everything about it. It wasn't like camping at all. Too many limitations. Now I am looking for a good small popup.
14 years of 3 (12) foot popup campers and hybrid camper. Back in popup camper now. 12 feet high wall. I primarily Boondocker and do extreme cold with popup gizmos. You can fail any camper not prepared for conditions.
The advise is great, but I have to point out that the constant “talking over each other” moments are so distracting that, at the end of it all, is what the viewer remembers. Thank you for the good talking points.
The only minor objection I have to popups is that though they usually feature two huge beds, and maybe a convertible dinette for sleeping a family with kids, my wife and I are empty-nesters. We need more interior space for living, and just a simple queen or even double bed for sleeping. Maybe we need an Aliner.
IMO everyone should try tent camping to learn the work involved and to get outdoors for the cheapest price point. $300 at Walmart can get you the basic gear for some nice favorable weather camping. Maybe you won't even like camping. If you do, the main reason you go pop up is the built in HVAC and secondarily, the living space. To extend your season, the propane forced hot air for the spring/fall & an AC for summer. My concern is if you buy used, how good is that 20 year old vinyl going to be? Although any new RV off the lot will have problems because they are made so haphazardly.
Really love the chemistry you two have. You're a joy to watch! Just subscribed - thanks for all the info!
This is very good. I go between a pop up camper and a travel trailer. It will be my first 'rv' whatever I end up with.
$12k for one new. I'd spend that in a second! New Pop-ups in Erie, PA area are $20k!!!! Ten year old used pop-ups go for $9K!!!!!
Buy an Aliner or other brand A-frame. 80% less set up and take down, hard walls and 4 season camper.
Personally I agreed been through pop-up a pain in the ass to pop up cables break a longer way to go just my personal opinion
Rent a cabin at a camp ground first. Do that a few times and see if you even like it. I want a trailer so bad but it just does not make sense for me. I would use it maybe 10 times a year at best. 15 days x 100.00 = 1500.00 dollars to rent a cabin on and off for a year. It would take me 4 years at best to break even buying a used decent pop up or camping trailer = 6k.
So for me renting a cabin once in a while and getting it out of my system works best for me. And don't forget insurance, taxes, registration, title. etc...
Are you paying to store it, then add that as well, Up keep, add-ons, extras for the trailer. The list goes on and on.
Is there a good resource to determine what the value should be of a used pop up?
@@amykelly-vega6355 not an official one that I know of, Watch as many reviews as possible on youtube, talk to anyone you know that owns one, and if you watch craigs list and Facebook market place after a while you will begin to better understand what a fair price is. I know for me if I bought one I would want it to be pretty nice that's why I said 6k in my previous post. You can get them much cheaper but they will not be as nice of course.
Great advice
The biggest positive for me is that it fits in a standard garage! Storage sites in my area charge $100-$200 a month....significant savings.
I personally prefer tent camping but a pop up every once in a while is nice.
Great info as usual! Pop-ups seem like an awesome "gateway" trailer into the RV lifestyle.
brendanclark81 Thanks so much for stopping by and watching!
A lot of these pricing assumptions/comments are inaccurate in the current Covid world we exist in.... They are no longer depreciating, prices are high, used ones almost impossible to find and are almost as expensive as new ones right now....If you have lots of tools, lots of time to fix, and lots of mechanical ability, consider a very old popup. New is best right now, but they are often already sold before the shipment arrives at the dealer's lot.
Wow! Glad I found your video. Thank you so much. Just subscribed
Extremely helpful---thank you!
I would alao recommend used and just save and pay cash
I was # 100 to like , WEEEEEE, great info guys thanks.
This is all salesman B.S., The fuel you save towing a pop up camper can get you a hotel room for overnight stays until you reach your final destination.
If you run out of propane you will freeze in a travel trailer too.
If you aren't Setting Camp and Breaking Camp, You aren't Camping.
Regarding the time it takes to setup/takedown, is it more/less than tent camping? Seems like it would still be faster than packing up cots, bags, tents, coolers, kitchen gear etc, no?
Pop up basically a tent on wheels. Need license,insurance, taxes, place to park it. That being said I would not want to go back to a tent .Still have to carry most stuff in tow vehicle. Tent is for the young. Pop up for the not so young. I’m in the latter group.
My F150 was not ideal for carrying my 1200 lb pop-up camper and got a F250 to carry it.
Very helpful, thanks so much you two! We are exactly the people you made this video for, thinking of trying out a pop up when we've never camped before. We will take your advice and continue to research before buying a USED pop up. : ) Very entertaining.
I’d like to get a pop up but the wife doesn’t like the idea of how they work. I was thinking about getting a tear drop camper instead. Right now it’s just us and our 1 son. We might have a 2nd kid in the next year or 2. Not sure if a tear drop would be good for a family of 4
No, it would be very tight, my opinion.
Just wondering where you got your mugs in this video? Love them!
Camp Casual!
Do a show on teardrops and such under $8,000.00.
Park it next to a bathroom and shower
The moral of all this....don't buy toys you can't afford.
Don't buy one unless you can stand the noise from rain hitting the canvas, the lack of privacy due to noise escaping from inside the camper, the having to set up the camper to dry out the canvas after you get home from a rainy trip, the usual lack of a shower , the usual can't run the refer. while traveling, the usual ice box baby sitting with ice melting away, less room to store stuff especially while traveling, hard to cool, hard to heat. No! Don't get one. ISH!!!!
Just found you two really like this first video. Sorry m name is Bodie Miller. I have had a pop up and three travel trailers. What I am thinking about believe it or I am thinking about going back to a pop up. Any thoughts on that.
First pop up we bought was junk. Didn’t loose much since it was cheep. Bought new one then traded for travel trailer. Depreciation killed us few years later. Had to sell because of wife’s health. Bought used pop up three years ago. Sold it at slight loss so I could buy used one with AC. Paid cash. My pop ups were more roomy than my trailer. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Keep it simple
Does a pop up have a toliet or shower?
Some do. Some do not. It depends on the make and model which almost always equates to the price for the camper.
If you bought new for $12,000 and sold it for $4,000 2 years later you must have sold it back to the dealer. He turned it around for $8,000 I'm betting. But that's just how it works, dealer has to eat too. Same thing happens with cars. Trade in value is not the same as if you do the work to sell it yourself.
I think he said they sold it for $4000 less than they paid for it.
@@daytondave3034 Well, that is not out of line for how RV's depreciate. Like cars the first couple years are brutal. But I bought a used popup many years ago for $5,000, used it for 4 years, and sold it for $3,500, so the depreciation rate drops which is also like cars. But don't get me wrong I am still a fan of popups, for lots of campers they are ideal especially if you don't have $150,000 to drop on a truck and trailer.
Try not talking over each other, I can tell you are used to doing it.
Organize what each of you will say and then each of you can add more to what the other said when their done. I enjoyed your video, but the interruptions were distracting
We weren’t interrupting each other. We were both just talking at the same time!
Watching them cut each other off every sentence is brutal and annoying.
Camping trips IMO is tent ⛺ camping, not pop ups or Rv's..might as well stay home and hang a lantern outside the window 🤷🏽♂️
😳 the guy in the actual video looks like he ate the guy in the thumbnail 🧐
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nonsense
So let me get this straight...
You guy didnt like to set up your pop up?
Thats why you guys look like a double zero next to each other. Get that exercise in lol
Wow!
Wrong forum Santiago. Try Grindr, you'll find your type there.
Normally about 95 cranks to get pop-up up it's just not good for everybody
Harsh
@@jimwortham8634 Mine takes 72. 😂 Kicks my butt @ 57 yrs old.
Watching them cut each other off every sentence is brutal and annoying.