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I'm in Cleveland, Missouri, taking a look at the custom cabinet shop we went to for our new construction build in Kansas City, and you'll never believe how much money Red Beard Carpentry makes from their cabinet designs!
He started this business on his own, & thanks to hard work and dedication, he's grown it to a comfortable size and is definitely reaping the rewards. If you're looking for inspiration to start your own business, or finance, business, and tax hacks such as bonus depreciation and cost segregation, or even just curious as to the process that goes into cabinet making, this video is for you.
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Would you invest your time and money into a trade like this? If no, then why not?
cabinity seems very repetitive, sure you can get cnc and other machines to do a lot of work for you (my friend's business does that). Custom cabinets can definitely be interesting but i'd rather do something else.
be great to know how long it took red beard to build your cabinets
I have a cabinet shop, I have been in the business for 25 years, I wouldn't suggest anyone open a shop unless you want to work a lot for a little money,. If you paid that much for what was shown you were taken to the cleaners.
@@adamchesis7443 25 years surely isn't teaching you much. I live in easter PA and a lot of wealthy folks paying over 50-70k for custom kitchen cabinets. you must either live in a poor area or not much of a cabinet maker.
@@DeepSnowRider if you read my comment I said that it was a lot for what was shown. I am highly skilled and do amazing work, what was there wasn't worth that kind of money especially if someone else was painting it.
As a cabinet maker myself. This is a very well equipped shop. Most shops order their cabinet doors from a supplier, they actually build their doors, very cool.
It amazes me that you don’t
The place I worked at did the whole thing, we did everything except make the hardware. I looked at cabinets at Home Depot and they attach the corners with plastic angle brackets and staples, very weak looking but fine after it's all attached and has a countertop, I think IKEA is on par with most cabinet shops quality they're pretty nice, I like the steel drawer sides more space and more sturdy.
Depends on how far away door builder is.
I'm a professional custom cabinet maker. Ive learned a few things along the way.
1. My cabinets are frameless. Customers 95% of the time prefer frameless cabinets and dont care for half overlay or quarter overlay doors. They all prefer full overlay.
2. The only time I add a face frame to my cabinets is if the customer wants a beaded face frame with inset doors and drawer fronts
3. Melamine is NOT a bad material. I dont know how this lie got started, but melamine is actually very strong and durable and recommended for cabinet boxes. It's actually more water resistant than plywood. Thats not to say plywood is a bad product. I actually use both depnding on what the customer wants.
4. I use end panel and fillers that are flush with doors and drawer fronts, and I don't use quarter round molding to cover up gaps between the cabinet and the walls I scribe all my panels and fillers to the wall and floor. This extra step gives my cabinets that true custom feel.
Theres more than one way to make cabinets, but ive learned that as long as you don't cut corners youll always stay in business
Could not of said it better myself. Never advertised for years. Plywoods are more warped and not consistant in thickness.
Plywood is definitely way more water resistant than melamine
I build mine the same way. It makes for a product that is a cut above the rest. AMEN
Impressive! I just finished my first cabinet; the journey has begun…
I am a custom remodeler and cabinet maker myself. Been in business for 15 years since i was 20. Something jumped out at me as ridiculous… the push to take bonus depreciation on a financed asset. That is a recipe for going broke
At the 13:40 mark he said something that I was thinking about when Covid hit and it’s the exact reason why I started watching video after video after video . Everyone I know doing this type of work is much older . I’m 39 now and I’ve been grinding and growing every day , week and month. Greatest decision I’ve ever made was to take control of my everyday life and work on my time around wife and kids .
How is the business treating you now?
Nice shop, well equipped from what i saw.
But there were things we didnt see as well.
Like where he cuts the plywood, edgebanding, etc. etc. plus where the finishing is done.
However, he obviously has all that.
Now just think about the size of this shop as compared to most shops seen on youtube.
The difference is that some shops build, and some do shop tours.
Space is a requirement, especially when building things like kitchen cabinets.
Interesting they said inset faceframe is less expensive, we definitely charge way more when a customer wants inset faceframe simply because it's more work to get everything aligned perfectly.
They were kidding, being sarcastic.
yea absolutely because last kitchen I ordered was 23k more because everything was inset. overlay, it would have been a 40k kitchen but because of inset it went up to 63k
inset is way way more. actually night amd day look to. overlay looks stock vs. inset looks so more custom...
Wow. His mother is very supportive of his business. Very nice.
Nice shop. Lets see them all installed. Maybe the cabinet layout prints too?
Funny how all these people who claim to be cabinet builders and commenting on the price without knowing the footage of cabinets going into the house. I can tell you that about half of the price is material costs, then you have employee costs, overhead, taxes and so on. It is not an easy business to get going. You can not make it using your everyday hobby wood working tools, and a two car garage. You need space and very expensive equipment.
I disagree… Traditional cabinet makers create bespoke furniture without electricity… You just have to know what client you are appealing to… This guy can make things at bulk… Isn’t the only way… Many people will pay a lot for a hand crafted item. It’s a massive USP.
I have 10 years experience and I’m about to start building my own shop I’m so ready !
Best of luck man
New sub here. Thanks for the content. I am looking to start making cabinents myself. Thanks for helping me learn some.. The tips on a 1031 and a cost seg are cool to share, you know what you're talking about!
Wow what an inspiration
Thinking about starting your own business?
I agree very inspiring! I just went full time this year and hope to build a cabinet business like Caleb's someday.
$111,111 plus the cost to get them painted.
Amazing video. So many insights 👌
I’ll bet Line 31C doesn’t reflect that.
You're probably right but I've never seen a one where the mortise groove is cut all the way through
It's because the mortise groove is also the groove for the panel, cut at the same time. Simple, cheap, fast, effective system. I've made literally thousands of these doors, which we call "Shaker" style around here.
That's because it's not mortise and tenon. It's tongue and groove
As the gentlemen before me have stated, the groove you see is the continuation of the groove which holds the panel, but there probably is an actual tenon located near the inner edge of the shorter piece, which ends some distance (for example 15 milimetres) from the outer odge of the shorter piece
The joint he called a mortise and tenon is actually a tongue and groove joint.
Nope it's mortise and tenon
One joint with many names. Mortise and tenon. Tongue and groove. Cope and stick.
Tongue and groove joints run parallel with the grain, ie along the length of several boards glued together. This is a mortise and tenon, although without the traditional "shoulders" on the tenon. The mortise is a continuation of the panel groove, and is cut at the same time, and the tenon is the full width of the rail. It's a modernization of the older style of mortise and tenon, but it is still a mortise and tenon.
Crazy how dumb some people are on this video acting like they actually know cabinetry
You can't take full depreciation any more. They laws have changed in the last few years but you haven't been able to take full depreciation on an asset (i.e. all at once) for a few years.
prob 20 % more in las vegas im sure 35 % more in nyc
I'd be curious to see the price differences!
No flush inset cabinets are more than over lay
Wow!!! Healthcare software! As a software engineer, I want to start a cabinet building company too!!!
Probably 125k with closet's
He was successful because he had a designer to build for from the drop. Otherwise it’s a friggin slog.
Having a designer is part of the process though. Even if it's a in house designer
Actually, i didnt see much equipment, especially considering the size of the shop.
Not saying it isnt there, but i didnt see it.
For example, that one saw certainly isnt used for cutting all the plywood for the cabinets.
There as a rule would be a large saw for doing that which would be very noticeable.
I also dont understand why the applied moulding on the doors?
Why not just use a shaper with the proper cutter to make them any style and shape you want?
But i didnt see any shapers either.
The vertical belt sander is a very nice one, but that can only do certain things.
There are several other types of sanders equally as important for building cabinets, and i didnt see any.
How does he drill the holes for the shelves?
Again, most large shops have a machine for that, didnt see that either.
How does he make his drawers? that also requires machinery.
Obviously he has a large dust collector, or at least the ductwork for one.
Probably has a slider saw. Saw a blum machine that changes out to 9 hole drill. His operation is nice for having a few employees. I have 2,000 sq ft with slider, 12' edgebander, sawstop, 53" double head sander, blum delux machine, 125 gallon compressor, clamp table and big router table. Doing more euro style these days, not much custom cabinetry/furniture. 58 yrs old and lookin to get out and start making cue sticks. Still working on setups etc. Have a bid coming up for 6,000 to 40,000 cabinets. If all goes well, i get bigger shop and equipment and retire in 6 years when job is done. 🤞
100k is my guess.
$110,000? I need to quit my job
That’s what I’m thinking
Seems like you got finessed pretty well, I would have done that for under 40k Painted and with the counter tops. I would like to know the Square feet of your kitchen thats how we usually price cabinets.
Good job for the cabinet maker to be hable to price his work.
It’s all in the marketing strategy.
You’re probably a hack
Material and supplies times 3 minimum.
In a town with 251 people there ain’t much competition 😂 I’m guessing it’s a booming area if he’s building a million dollar home within 30 mins of it
I bet you are also one of those guys that can build a house for $150,000. What size and what kind of finishes? You can’t tell us that but you definitely can do it cheaper than everyone else. Then, when we want a written contract with that extraordinarily cheap price at the bottom, you always have some reason why you can’t sign it.
how long did it take for him to make everything?
Averages about 5 hours per foot from measuring to instal.
77k
That's crazy stuff, someone else has to paint it.
The doors are very cheap looking.
Good for the cabinet maker.
Maybe he should have charged you $150k with the tour of his shop. Lol
I build cabinets for a living. Those doors are not cheaply made. They are laborious and repetitive. The fact that he even makes his own doors says a lot about this builder. I was way more interested in him than the continual joke about how “this is the less expensive option right? Tee-Hee”.
@@mrjehbaldwin
Smart people order doors.
I know how to do it, but I prefer to order them for my cabinet shop.
Those doors look terrible. Cheap mdf panel. At least use a veneer panel so it looks like something before it gets painted
@@kubota33wait a minute...so you don't even make your own doors but you're critisizing someone who does lol?!? Man shutup 🤣🤣🤣.
@@jakethethird1584
Do you make anything?
Shut your own mouth
@@kubota33painted shaker style usually gets an mdf panel so no grain shows. Most people dont like that.
My home cost $1.3M but my cabinets only cost $17,000. Did you bully that guy in college?!
That doesn't even sound right lol
Sounds like alot of empty space in your 1.3m house.
What if I told you I make double that painting cabinets?
So how much does he make? He didn’t answer that! Lol
$80k
hi bro..may i ask about cabinet maker job.
26k
I like to see these kinds of stories but your camera man is all hopped up on coffee and smarties, this is giving me a headache to watch!
My guess is 38k
Were you surprised by the end costs?😅
45k
A bit under, maybe a few years ago though.. 😅
Since we’re just throwing numbers out there without knowing any actual footage or scope of work, I will slide my number in there at $3,500. Don’t know what it includes but I “win” because i’m the low bidder🙄
50k
Wheres all the dust?
Clean shop is a safe shop.
Funny, I have a business degree and do stuff like this. The thing I do with employees is give them a spatial orientation test. But you can generally know if a person played sports they already have the spatial orientation iq.
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$87,319
Wtf over $100k and you don't even get the routed doors? You gotta take glued on trim..... I need to start selling my cabinets wherever you live lol
Excatly.. I have a shop in so cal and I would love to charge this price
@@shushyourface you can sell them at even higher prices in So Cal, it’s just marketing strategy and filtering system.
THREE LETTERS.. CNC.
That along with top level software to run it. Better than 2 employees.
26yrs experience , 2 man shop , 100,000k+ average monthly sales. 60+ hrs week for me though when busy. 3rd generation cabinet builder.
75k
Closest guess!