Here are a few things that have saved me from bad vehicles........ 1. Bluedriver scan tool, quick look for trouble codes that are not shown or if everything is running right. Also can fit in your pocket and hooks to your phone, sneaked that into a few auction looks and saved me from bad vehicles. 2. A small screwdriver or even one with a rubber cover, tap the frame and also some areas that are prone to rust, easy way to tell if its solid or has a possible cover up 3. Thermal gun or simple camera of that type, mainly to make sure that every cylinder is firing and also make sure it is running right and flowing water correctly 4. This is another important one, CHECK THE WIRING! If you are finding a lot of cut wires in areas, stay away from that vehicle. Nothing sucks worse than trying to undo a previous owners work, that can take out the entire harness which can get expensive. 5. Double check the VIN as well, a quick search can easily expose a few things from wrecks to even if its stolen.
The wiring is 100% a big one, cannot agree with you more. It's an item that can be easily overlooked, but can cause some serious headaches, and in 4wds (especially older ones but newer ones too) it is quite common for sketchy wiring to exist. I got lucky with my patrol but not so much with my project street car, so make sure to double check it 👌
@@bartbug1 you can purchase the tools pretty cheap online, and they normally require an app to use. Just be aware that some apps have extra features for certain manufacturers (such as the ability to properly read and interpret codes) that are locked by in-app purchases, so some research is recommended
I’ve taken an OBD2 scanner a couple of times. Even if no lights come up, sometimes you can use them to get a better reading of vitals to help find any issues
2yrs ago I bought a used Auto PK Ranger privately, seller gave me a fake invoice from a family friend that advised the glow plugs needed replacing and that's why it would take a while to turn over. Every part in the engine bay has been replaced now and it's had a full manual conversion after the auto failed. I've spent twice as much as I bought it for but can't get rid of it because it's on finance.
A comprehensive useful guide for 4X4 vehicles. Nothing similar around. I just checked my own rig. Thank you Jesse. More tips will be highly appreciated mate.
I'd always suggest a scan tool to see if any codes are lurking...also tires are a big one, they can be expensive if you're talking quality off road rubber.
I'd also look at online forums for common problems. Specific engines or transmissions may be best to avoid. Like a Nissan with a CVT or a Ford with the "powershit" DCT for example (obviously not 4wds)
I bought a used Subaru once. The dealership had just put a brand new turbo on so I thought it was good. But actually, the whole engine needed a rebuild a few months later.
Good advice thanks Jesse 👍 haven't seen you for ages mate I guess you're not full time like Shaun'o and Graham 😅 happy travels and hopefully we'll see you soon
12v accessors and wiring to main battery, fused correctly, everything works as should and charges correctly, your not gonna park the car for 3 days and have a dead battery been caught twice from accessors drawing power when cars off and not realizing as would drive car every day, could bring and voltage meter with a dc clamp for measuring current on cables. just a thought as is a bit of a head fuk
This is what it's like for us watching any American tutorials except it's like America thinks it's the only country in the world. Channels fine, we don't have enough tech social media here. Theres 2million channels already on your yank tanks
A lot of dealerships won't let customers choose a mechanic to inspect it. Instead, they will only allow inspections from a select few vehicle inspectors.
Just come from an auction viewing now where this is done. They Auction site was not very helpful either left me feeling I shouldn't be there so I left.
Thanks this is really helpful! I'm looking at buying a used 4WD currently (for the first time) and I don't really know all that much about cars in general let alone 4WDs....other than what I've learned from you guys, and watching your ripper show - which is also the reason I feel the necessity to buy at 4WD! So thanks for your inspiration, and for your tips! LOVE the show! 🫶
I start by looking at the seatbelt to see what type of driving it's done if it's frayed it's most likely done. A lot of stop start which might not be good for a high km vehicle
Commonrail is not a issue at all. It’s the environmental stuff that’s the problem, and those are more prevalent on diesels from the commonrail era. Some modern diesels are at least as reliable as the legendary older diesels when you delete all the crap from them. And just like it used to, some diesel engines are just pieces of crap. But we have forgotten those unreliable turds and still remember the legends.
The BEST KEPT SECRET to scoring a Bargain - Ex Mining 4X4s 👌🏼 , x1000s to choose from cheap ex fleet, regularly serviced , well looked after etc .. few red dirt stains but ignore that and all will be fine! 👌🏼 😏🤣😁
The gamble is engine hours vs KM, and which mine and where on the lease it was used (some have extreme salt exposure due to the type of rock processed)
@@4WD247 I was thinking about the n70 because I am getting my learners towards the end of the year ms I wanted to do a manual car since I wouldn’t have to get another license for manual if I did automatic and it is way cheaper than the n80 still being reliable. I was thinking about these specific cars because it is my dream to own a 4x4 and go 4wding with it, What do you guys think should I push forward with my idea or do you guys recommend something else? Would very much appreciate any feedback.
Well, I am in need of some information from my Aussie pales. I'm looking to get a Ranger and since it's a drive by wire type. Could I get cost information for a dash that's made for right-hand drive from the version of the Ranger there? Looking to use for delivering mail as it will be a great 4WD for some of my work but also awesome to get back on the trails for going off-road.
Good solid vehicles. Not as capable or with as many mods as a Hilux for instance, but for what most people are realistically going to do it's going to more than do the job.
So do you guys in Australia call the FRAME, the CHASSI? Just wanted to understand if this is a cultural difference, because Jessie kept pointing at the frame and video kept showing the frame but the words "chassi" was repeated?
I'm not all that familiar with Grays Auction or what's allowed at car auction lots, but do they leave the keys inside the vehicles? And are you allowed to start and slightly put them in gear (as shown)?
We keep the keys safe, but you can come in and sign them out for any vehicle that you want to inspect. Yes, you can start and slightly put them in gear as Jesse shows in the video 😀
12ht or turbo 2h? Its its a turbo 2h the EDIC motor is common fault. If its a 12ht it could be the vacuum butterfly in the intake that closes to shut off the engine.
@@Indy.lam351 check the rh side of the engine the edic motor is located there. There should be a rod that connects to the fuel pump. When you start the engine it should move back and then to the middle position once it's running. When you turn the key off it should move forwards to the stop position. Check it's working properly first, then if it's not you need to work out if it's the board that controls it or the edic motor itself. There's heaps of info online about how to rectify it
No offense to the Aussie utes but people would be much better off with a "ute" sporting the golden bow tie or the three big red letters on the grille, especially around the 1999-2004 year models. Great vehicles I must say.
Phew, almost bought something that wasn't a 4WD. Your wisdom/poor application of punctuation saved me from a massive mistake that I'd probably never recover from. Cheers.
Sometimes a car that has a long list of things recently replaced says more about the owner than anything else. If you’ve managed to kill an engine or transmission on a ten year old Hilux, I am not buying a car from you.
Hey brother, how do Mitsubishis run over there in that part of the world? Because here in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 they are no good, no power and the engine parts are like glass 😂😂 😂😂😂
Love how all the examples of bad smoke showed footage of Sooty 🤣🤣🤣
Here are a few things that have saved me from bad vehicles........
1. Bluedriver scan tool, quick look for trouble codes that are not shown or if everything is running right. Also can fit in your pocket and hooks to your phone, sneaked that into a few auction looks and saved me from bad vehicles.
2. A small screwdriver or even one with a rubber cover, tap the frame and also some areas that are prone to rust, easy way to tell if its solid or has a possible cover up
3. Thermal gun or simple camera of that type, mainly to make sure that every cylinder is firing and also make sure it is running right and flowing water correctly
4. This is another important one, CHECK THE WIRING! If you are finding a lot of cut wires in areas, stay away from that vehicle. Nothing sucks worse than trying to undo a previous owners work, that can take out the entire harness which can get expensive.
5. Double check the VIN as well, a quick search can easily expose a few things from wrecks to even if its stolen.
The wiring is 100% a big one, cannot agree with you more. It's an item that can be easily overlooked, but can cause some serious headaches, and in 4wds (especially older ones but newer ones too) it is quite common for sketchy wiring to exist. I got lucky with my patrol but not so much with my project street car, so make sure to double check it 👌
Great tips, thanks for this. Where can I get this 'Bluedriver scan tool'? is it an app? or something that I can purchase?
@@bartbug1 you can purchase the tools pretty cheap online, and they normally require an app to use. Just be aware that some apps have extra features for certain manufacturers (such as the ability to properly read and interpret codes) that are locked by in-app purchases, so some research is recommended
I’ve taken an OBD2 scanner a couple of times. Even if no lights come up, sometimes you can use them to get a better reading of vitals to help find any issues
Specially, if you got a good one, that allows you to test
Thanks for coming in guys! Very informative video on what to look for when buying used.
The early 4j motor you can’t check blow by because it has timing gears which can make people thing it has a shit ton of blow by but it doesn’t
Most utes blow by because of the egr
it’s the chromoly cilinder sleeves that create the blow by not the timing gears as they can never get a normal seal on the rings.
Awesome video as always 4WD 24/7 Crew.
Thanks mate, like usual a great tutorial. Check for any over spray under the guards etc as this means there has been a patch up job.
Yes good tip also!
2yrs ago I bought a used Auto PK Ranger privately, seller gave me a fake invoice from a family friend that advised the glow plugs needed replacing and that's why it would take a while to turn over. Every part in the engine bay has been replaced now and it's had a full manual conversion after the auto failed. I've spent twice as much as I bought it for but can't get rid of it because it's on finance.
A comprehensive useful guide for 4X4 vehicles. Nothing similar around. I just checked my own rig. Thank you Jesse. More tips will be highly appreciated mate.
Great source of information in the market for my first 4wd thanks heaps As a diesel mechanic myself I can say your 100 percent correct. 👍
I'd always suggest a scan tool to see if any codes are lurking...also tires are a big one, they can be expensive if you're talking quality off road rubber.
a lot of their stock is ex-lease, and stock rubber. run em down and fit something of your choice!
I'd also look at online forums for common problems. Specific engines or transmissions may be best to avoid. Like a Nissan with a CVT or a Ford with the "powershit" DCT for example (obviously not 4wds)
I bought a used Subaru once. The dealership had just put a brand new turbo on so I thought it was good. But actually, the whole engine needed a rebuild a few months later.
Good advice thanks Jesse 👍 haven't seen you for ages mate I guess you're not full time like Shaun'o and Graham 😅 happy travels and hopefully we'll see you soon
When you get a lemon 🍋 make lemonade .
Can you do patrols please
brother in christ where is the patrol build
SO close to showing. Just hang on a little longer - it is coming! 🙌🏻
Take clean paper towel when you check the oil sit it on paper towel if around the black oil dot it goes clear could mean diesel in the oil
12v accessors and wiring to main battery, fused correctly, everything works as should and charges correctly, your not gonna park the car for 3 days and have a dead battery been caught twice from accessors drawing power when cars off and not realizing as would drive car every day, could bring and voltage meter with a dc clamp for measuring current on cables. just a thought as is a bit of a head fuk
I know most of australia drives diesel 4wds. You have a lot of US viewers. Most of us drive gasoline vehicles. What about doing a follow-up for those?
Petrol 4WD’s are coming back as of recent and seems to be the way to go in the future
This is what it's like for us watching any American tutorials except it's like America thinks it's the only country in the world. Channels fine, we don't have enough tech social media here. Theres 2million channels already on your yank tanks
Take a strong magnet! bodywork and chassis can be bodged with filler!
actually a paint thickness measuring tool is quite cheap!
Underbody black spray paint!
Dealers and auctions think that this stuff is the sh*t 🤪
and be aware if buying a jeep or landrover, no matter the history it will either run for another 100kms, or 600000kms for no apparent reason 😂
A lot of dealerships won't let customers choose a mechanic to inspect it. Instead, they will only allow inspections from a select few vehicle inspectors.
then don't buy it from them
Red flag
Which dealers are you shoping at. I would never buy a car if they didn't let me use my own independent inspection!
Just come from an auction viewing now where this is done.
They Auction site was not very helpful either left me feeling I shouldn't be there so I left.
Thanks this is really helpful! I'm looking at buying a used 4WD currently (for the first time) and I don't really know all that much about cars in general let alone 4WDs....other than what I've learned from you guys, and watching your ripper show - which is also the reason I feel the necessity to buy at 4WD! So thanks for your inspiration, and for your tips! LOVE the show! 🫶
Glad we could help mate! Hope you find a good one 🤙🏻
@@4WD247 Thank you! 💁♀️❤️🫶
Looks like a 4WD Action shirt got missed in editing 😉 Good info though - thanks!
What about the petrol 4x4
Good info. Thanks 👍
cant wait for graham doing another road trip
What’s happening with theBMW re-powered Nissan? Is it finished?
I start by looking at the seatbelt to see what type of driving it's done if it's frayed it's most likely done. A lot of stop start which might not be good for a high km vehicle
Avoid a common rail diesel outside of warranty unless you’ve got money to fork out on maintenance and repairs.
4JJ1 is good
My d4d has 523 000kms maintenance is cheap idk where u get your info from??
Commonrail is not a issue at all. It’s the environmental stuff that’s the problem, and those are more prevalent on diesels from the commonrail era.
Some modern diesels are at least as reliable as the legendary older diesels when you delete all the crap from them. And just like it used to, some diesel engines are just pieces of crap. But we have forgotten those unreliable turds and still remember the legends.
dont buy any diesel with a computer, or ifs.. fact..
🙄Don't buy a vehicle at all. Get a donkey. Old school reliable.......
good shit man you killed it
If its got a brake controler or its a ford steer clear of them.
haha I ran my 4jj1 with the oil cap off once and i had to clean half the engine bay! Never again
Hey Jesse. Love the video! Any chance you can do a checkover anc common faults in a D22 Navara withe the YD25 and the ZD30 motor?
The BEST KEPT SECRET to scoring a Bargain - Ex Mining 4X4s 👌🏼 , x1000s to choose from cheap ex fleet, regularly serviced , well looked after etc .. few red dirt stains but ignore that and all will be fine! 👌🏼
😏🤣😁
The gamble is engine hours vs KM, and which mine and where on the lease it was used (some have extreme salt exposure due to the type of rock processed)
Hows Jesse's GU M57 Diesel Going?
Any videos on the m57 GU?
Hey guys great video, can you guys do a specific video on the Toyota n70 Hilux sr5 and the land cruiser 80 series? Would very much appreciate it.
Hey mate, we have one of an N80 coming up!
@@4WD247 I was thinking about the n70 because I am getting my learners towards the end of the year ms I wanted to do a manual car since I wouldn’t have to get another license for manual if I did automatic and it is way cheaper than the n80 still being reliable. I was thinking about these specific cars because it is my dream to own a 4x4 and go 4wding with it, What do you guys think should I push forward with my idea or do you guys recommend something else? Would very much appreciate any feedback.
That ranger is the one I bought 😂
another good tip is to make sure it has a steering wheel
Well, I am in need of some information from my Aussie pales. I'm looking to get a Ranger and since it's a drive by wire type. Could I get cost information for a dash that's made for right-hand drive from the version of the Ranger there? Looking to use for delivering mail as it will be a great 4WD for some of my work but also awesome to get back on the trails for going off-road.
Thanks Jesse
Awesome video mate
Can someone tell me a bit about the 1kz-te engine? I’m looking at getting a surf but only know they crack heads often. Anything else?
why you buying a surf.??.. only 4x4 to buy is a toyota 80, or a gu nissan, 4.2tdi, everything else is bs..
Great engine, although a bit underpowered. Pretty idiot proof actually - way better than D4D
Don't agree with oil cap test. Might work for some but 4m41 engines will all make that thing rattle off lol
My 4m41 is good with a blowby test. 4jj1 are usually not a good candidate for a test
Fingers crossed, we see Some PX ranges on this list
all rangers are sht..
80's always blow smoke
Can we get the fellas thoughts on the MR Triton please. 😂
MR Tritons is the second option to hilux
Buy a landcruiser
don't tow anything remotely heavy offroad or rural highways. You bendy bendy.
Good solid vehicles. Not as capable or with as many mods as a Hilux for instance, but for what most people are realistically going to do it's going to more than do the job.
@@mickanon5607ive seen a lot of other utes that has bent chassis. It really depends on the weight you put at the back
rc colorado and dmax 4jj1's are heavy breathing engines aswell!
How do we check a vehicle online?
So do you guys in Australia call the FRAME, the CHASSI?
Just wanted to understand if this is a cultural difference, because Jessie kept pointing at the frame and video kept showing the frame but the words "chassi" was repeated?
Chassis* and that’s how most of the world describes it
so i guess the point to take away from this video is...never buy a car off Shauno😂
I'm not all that familiar with Grays Auction or what's allowed at car auction lots, but do they leave the keys inside the vehicles? And are you allowed to start and slightly put them in gear (as shown)?
We keep the keys safe, but you can come in and sign them out for any vehicle that you want to inspect. Yes, you can start and slightly put them in gear as Jesse shows in the video 😀
Looks like people aren't buying cars at the moment. Grey's having to do a promo piece with 4wd247 to try and move inventory. Interesting.
Can anyone help me with my 60 series when I turn the key off when it’s running it doesn’t turn off it’s a turbo by the way.
12ht or turbo 2h? Its its a turbo 2h the EDIC motor is common fault. If its a 12ht it could be the vacuum butterfly in the intake that closes to shut off the engine.
@@motovntrzss it’s a 2h
@@Indy.lam351 check the rh side of the engine the edic motor is located there. There should be a rod that connects to the fuel pump. When you start the engine it should move back and then to the middle position once it's running. When you turn the key off it should move forwards to the stop position. Check it's working properly first, then if it's not you need to work out if it's the board that controls it or the edic motor itself. There's heaps of info online about how to rectify it
@@motovntrzss ok thanks a lot for that
Where is Datsun with the bmw motor
Obd2 Scan codes
What do ya do????
If ya get a Lemon 🍋 🤪
Make Lemonade
G'day Mate
best to just avoid the auctions all together, especially greys
Where’s the bmw patrol?!
What should I know about buying used 80 series petrol?
Buy a Patrol
What makes you say that lol
@@Bigtube993 more comfort, equally as reliable and heavily modifiable.
I wouldn’t buy any 4wd used by 4wd 24/7 it has been flogged
less then 1 minute baby
No offense to the Aussie utes but people would be much better off with a "ute" sporting the golden bow tie or the three big red letters on the grille, especially around the 1999-2004 year models. Great vehicles I must say.
I got in the shit for testing trans so idfk
Quite a miss guided video.
My advice is have a mechanic go over the vehicle..
me still contemplating why sellers just...cant be honest 😭😅
First comment lesssgoooo ! Jesse is a legend thanks for looking out for the younger 4wd community appreciate it
Dang it I’m 18 min late
Rule number one. Never buy your vehicle 😂😂😂👍🏻
Dont buy if its git a 4wd action sticker
Buy a push bike
anything, with ifs, is not, a 4wd.. period..
Phew, almost bought something that wasn't a 4WD. Your wisdom/poor application of punctuation saved me from a massive mistake that I'd probably never recover from. Cheers.
Twin locked 105, 1HDFTE, MANUAL, on 35's, - "pERiOd". What a choad.
Board 😢
Gday ❤
Walk away if you see a Nissan badge
The only 4x4 I have owned that was a shit box was a Toyota.
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Sometimes a car that has a long list of things recently replaced says more about the owner than anything else.
If you’ve managed to kill an engine or transmission on a ten year old Hilux, I am not buying a car from you.
Can’t stand Jesse.
Him and Jocko are my favourite presenters
You’re entitled to your opinion but guarantee you you’re the minority here
Blokes an absolute champion
@@Hi_its_Kartik Spot on
FO then
If it were shaun i would agree but jesse is the man
HADIR
Dont buy from grays. Best check you can do
Hey brother, how do Mitsubishis run over there in that part of the world? Because here in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 they are no good, no power and the engine parts are like glass 😂😂 😂😂😂
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Wild
bro just commented on himself 😂