The relay you pulled under the steering column was your baro sensor. Aka your barometric pressure sensor. It reads the barometric pressure for the pcm to know conditions like elevation and adjusts your fuel injection for such
I just removed the shifter column and called it a day. I have access to a manual column but i couldnt justify swapping it all out just for that. Also i have to fab up a crossmember cuz i cant find a 4x4 zf5 crossmember anywhere. Swap is really easy and straightforward if you have all the needed parts anyone can do it.
Note to self. Self, when removing the steering column from an automatic truck, remember to unhook and remove the transmission linkage BEFORE dropping the steering column on the floor. 🤣😂 . This I learned last night
So I won’t have overdrive anymore? I thought that was what 5th gear was for. Having trouble getting my pedal assembly in right now but other than that rolling along quite nicely. Your video helped me a loooot! Thank you!
I haven’t a clue on trying to get it to start I bypassed the clutch position sensor thinking that’ll do it but still nothing I’m not sure what to do now
Clean swap👍🏻 looking at doing the same to my 97 single cab long bed. Was wondering how many hours the swap took? I have another truck but I’d really like to just sell that truck to buy a donor/parts truck
Jake Westergren i think 2wd is connected with a ujoint flange thing.. you need to get a driveshaft from a manual truck that is the same cab and bed configuration that you have or longer and then you just have to shorten the driveshaft so its cheaper than making one from scratch.
Was it just plug and play between the auto and manual wiring harness? I have a manual harness so just wondering if the truck will start when I plug it into where the auto harness was.
I got the truck I wanna swap and a parts truck with a column clutch pressure plate fly wheel pretty much everything to swap it but I don’t have a trans truck I got has a 2wd and truck I wanna swap has a 4wd e4od but I thought I could pick up a zf5 for around 400 but nope
So I’ve got one more question. I’ve been reading and most people say like you that I can run my auto pcm with the manual but my question is if I buy a chip and some injectors for the truck to I just give them the auto pcm code and tell them it’s a manual trans and they can tune it from there?
I just drop it down usually remove the stuff holding it to the dash but pulling it entirely would be easier for the first time doing it. You can not use the auto crossmember at all I tried it would need new holes cutting welding and more
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. Did you have to change the ECM or any wiring converting from auto to manual? Buddy of mine was concerned the conversion would xuasw a runaway motor or no start. Going from e4od to zf6 behind a 6.8 v10.
emma taxes only wiring that needs changed is the trans harness to get backup lights to work and add the clutch pedal switch. There is no need to change Ecu or any other wiring and it would not cause a tunaway
@@Petersonauto I was concerned also, because my 94 has a different wiring harness all the way to the transfer case. I was told that if I don't, I would have to leave the mlps in. Also, isn't the steering column wire harness different?
@@tracyhill7960 the under dash wiring is there for either setup you just pull the clutch pedal plug and plug it in. For the trans and t case you can bypass or replace it with the manual wiring harness.
@@Petersonauto aah. I get it. Thank you. I'm having a hard time getting the top plug to unplug by the steering wheel wrist. So, that's as far as I've gotten
Hey man! I know this is an older video, but you still may see this! Any chance you have a link to that upgraded firewall part for the clutch master? I can't find it and I'm pretty good at the ol' google.
Enrique Smith a guy on the oil burners forum was making them. Niche part so google don’t pull it up but get on that forum and the reinforcement plate info can be found
@@Petersonauto Okay, thank you! I also had a question about the overdrive? Why would you need any wires for that if its all mechanical? (just put transmission into OD, right?)
Im getting ready to do this in a small block 4 wheel drive truck. What did you do about the auto trans coolant lines into the radiator? Ive looked everywhere and cant find any info. Thanks
Lil Uri yes some small things change like interior parts and crossmember may be different but large parts bolt up. The t case is different but same pattern
How did you end up running the transmission Cross member. I'm looking at doing the swap to my 95 2wd because I'm now on trans number 3 and I think it's time to manual swap
Kenny Roohr Well it’s a heavy duty trans. There is a bellhousing Mount then a rear top mount for specific use like a splitter etc. I used the rear top mount also because I wanted to marry the t case but it’s not needed. If ur keeping a ford engine the bell mount may not be enough give me some more info on your plan
Peterson auto I have a 95 f250 7.3L 2wd powerstroke makeing between 350 and 400 to wheels and the truck just burnt up it's 3rd automatic trans. I am really starting to look into manual swapping it but I'm trying to find out all the little pieces and get everything i will need so when this trans blows I will have everything ready to go for the swap. My last trans was moderitly build and I blew it in 4500 miles or 4 weeks
Kenny Roohr my bad. I thought you wanted a heavy duty trans like my other build. This is the zf5 swap. All bolt in and easy. Use a stock zf5 crossmember for the swap nothing custom holes are even in the frame
Kenny Roohr To do it right and swap everything out give it a good weekend. But you can do pedals and the small things first then finish up the next chance.
I just done this swap and my donor truck did have a tranny block spacer behind the manual and so did the auto...I didn't check for any differences though..I just swapped them.
Do you remember the length of the the prop shaft, i have and ext cab long box and I'm trying to gather all the parts before i rip into it and cant find a definitive length. Thanks
Christopher Macedo your auto trans has a neutral saftey switch the manual only has the backup switch ford used the same plug so the manual backup light switch will plug right into the auto harness
Peterson auto you now about where it’s located on a 97? I’ve been told it’s by the hole in the firewall for slave master cylinder, but I can’t seem to find it on my truck🤷🏼♂️
Looking to do this on my super duty 7.3, will I need a new transfer case or can I just get the input shaft from a zf? and does anything need to be done on the driveshaft?
Austin Chilcote yes you can. However you would want to still remove the auto shifter from the column. You would have a hole in the cover where the shifter came out
Where the old one unplugs. Follow the auto harness up to the plug. It’s under the truck close to the firewall if I remember correctly. But follow the old one to know the routing etc
Gavin Moose removed it and put the manual harness in. If you don’t have the harness jumper the neutral safety switch and cut and splice for the reverse switch
Hey I have a lot of questions on this swap do you have a snapchat or an instagram I could message you on I have one heck of a project going on and im really confused im in North Eastern PA
Phillip There is a harness that runs from the firewall back along the frame to the trans. There is a small sensor for the backup lights this harness connects to the sensor. For what you need I’m not a mind reader and have no idea what is on the trick currently. But ya need more help I’ll do what I can through the internet
Before you do anything, the plugin on the transmission for the reverse lights is near the top of the transmission towards the front on the drivers side. Just check and see if the plug just came unplugged. If the person who did your swap did not get a manual transmission style harness and PCM, then you will not be able to plug in the reverse lights, because the harnesses are different. If not, then whoever did your swap did it the same way i did my auto to manual swap, and hopefully I can help you understand why you don't haver reverse lights. For my auto to manual swap, I did not get a manual PCM and instead used the automatic PCM. More than likely whoever did your swap did the same thing. This means that you still have the automatic style wire harness that connects the PCM to the transmission. If you look underneath the truck where the harness is (runs down the drivers side of the frame) you will probably find that the only thing plugged in is the plug that goes to the transfer case. The transmission Range Sensor (which is only needed for the automatic transmission) will be tucked up somewhere out of the way and not attached to the manual transmission. What this is doing is fooling your trucks automatic style PCM to think it is in neutral all the time, which allows you to start and drive the vehicle and gives you smooth throttle response. However since your PCM thinks you are always in neutral, you will not have reverse lights. The best way to fix would be to get a manual transmission wire harness with a manual transmission PCM. That way, you can plug in the reverse lights and you won't have to "fool" the PCM into thinking its still an automatic that's in neutral all the time. Replacing the PCM and harness is my plan of attack, and although its pricey, it will "finish" the swap properly and the truck will operate as if it came from the factory. If you want to splice the wiring and make your own plug to tie the reverse lights into the wiring harness I'm sure its been done but unfortunately I can't give you any advice there. Hopefully that helps.
The relay you pulled under the steering column was your baro sensor. Aka your barometric pressure sensor.
It reads the barometric pressure for the pcm to know conditions like elevation and adjusts your fuel injection for such
I'm getting ready for my swap, nice vid.
I just removed the shifter column and called it a day. I have access to a manual column but i couldnt justify swapping it all out just for that. Also i have to fab up a crossmember cuz i cant find a 4x4 zf5 crossmember anywhere. Swap is really easy and straightforward if you have all the needed parts anyone can do it.
Note to self. Self, when removing the steering column from an automatic truck, remember to unhook and remove the transmission linkage BEFORE dropping the steering column on the floor. 🤣😂 . This I learned last night
Ya that’s not good when it starts rolling around. Hope all was ok in the end
@@Petersonauto since I wasn't able to completely pull the seat out, it just smacked the lower dash
No ones never got spark plugs for my 7.3
ford nut wrong year look up the 2019 model lol
Thanks for the video man! I'm doing my swap now, awesome reference
Andrew Didsbury glad to help
How did your swap go do you love it?
killer work man. Much appreciated!
So I won’t have overdrive anymore? I thought that was what 5th gear was for. Having trouble getting my pedal assembly in right now but other than that rolling along quite nicely. Your video helped me a loooot! Thank you!
Eric Wasilko no 5th gear is overdrive. So all good there.
I haven’t a clue on trying to get it to start I bypassed the clutch position sensor thinking that’ll do it but still nothing I’m not sure what to do now
@@ericwasilko8377 does it click turn over or anything?
@@Petersonauto well I get power and the gages light up. What it’s doing is acting like I was trying to start it as if it was in drive
@@ericwasilko8377 then neutral saftey was most likely not bypassed correctly
Clean swap👍🏻 looking at doing the same to my 97 single cab long bed. Was wondering how many hours the swap took? I have another truck but I’d really like to just sell that truck to buy a donor/parts truck
Nick Shields i would call it a solid weekend adding time up.
Nick Shields I did it over 3-5 weeks. FirSt the pedal assembly. Then next weekendpulled trans. Next back in. Then tie up loose ends
Peterson auto i think I can handle spending a weekend in the garage with no truck haha, thanks for the info and the video! Helps out a lot!
Lol. I'm pulling the zf5 from a super cab and putting it in the regular cab
I'm looking to do this swap, if I get a 2wd zf5, does it have a slip shaft built-in like the e4od does or do I need a custom driveshaft?
Jake Westergren i think 2wd is connected with a ujoint flange thing.. you need to get a driveshaft from a manual truck that is the same cab and bed configuration that you have or longer and then you just have to shorten the driveshaft so its cheaper than making one from scratch.
Jake Westergren i have a manual crew cab long bed driveshaft if youre interested btw
Was it just plug and play between the auto and manual wiring harness? I have a manual harness so just wondering if the truck will start when I plug it into where the auto harness was.
Barrett Dempsey yes they are plug and play
I got the truck I wanna swap and a parts truck with a column clutch pressure plate fly wheel pretty much everything to swap it but I don’t have a trans truck I got has a 2wd and truck I wanna swap has a 4wd e4od but I thought I could pick up a zf5 for around 400 but nope
STROKENOBS ___ ya trans goes for some decent money. Just gotta look around
Peterson auto have been lol that’s all I can find around here and usually they want to sell the whole swap
STROKENOBS ___ try eBay or copart
So I’ve got one more question. I’ve been reading and most people say like you that I can run my auto pcm with the manual but my question is if I buy a chip and some injectors for the truck to I just give them the auto pcm code and tell them it’s a manual trans and they can tune it from there?
HunterDeaton ya I think that’s how it works. Mine had a ts6 on it before the swap and tunes worked fine after
Do I have to remove the steering column to swap the pedals? Also can I use the auto crossmember if I drill new holes in the frame?
I just drop it down usually remove the stuff holding it to the dash but pulling it entirely would be easier for the first time doing it. You can not use the auto crossmember at all I tried it would need new holes cutting welding and more
Hey I’m interested in this junk yards information I am looking for a 4x4 zf5 for my 1997
Austin Chilcote me too lmk if you find it!
You didn't address the cross member issue?
Yes I did. Sorry forgot to film that part just got a stock zf5 crossmember
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. Did you have to change the ECM or any wiring converting from auto to manual? Buddy of mine was concerned the conversion would xuasw a runaway motor or no start. Going from e4od to zf6 behind a 6.8 v10.
emma taxes only wiring that needs changed is the trans harness to get backup lights to work and add the clutch pedal switch. There is no need to change Ecu or any other wiring and it would not cause a tunaway
@@Petersonauto I was concerned also, because my 94 has a different wiring harness all the way to the transfer case. I was told that if I don't, I would have to leave the mlps in. Also, isn't the steering column wire harness different?
@@tracyhill7960 the under dash wiring is there for either setup you just pull the clutch pedal plug and plug it in. For the trans and t case you can bypass or replace it with the manual wiring harness.
@@Petersonauto aah. I get it. Thank you. I'm having a hard time getting the top plug to unplug by the steering wheel wrist. So, that's as far as I've gotten
@@tracyhill7960 ya some of them can be a bit of a pain on these old fords many break be carefull
Hey man! I know this is an older video, but you still may see this! Any chance you have a link to that upgraded firewall part for the clutch master? I can't find it and I'm pretty good at the ol' google.
Enrique Smith a guy on the oil burners forum was making them. Niche part so google don’t pull it up but get on that forum and the reinforcement plate info can be found
@@Petersonauto Okay, thank you! I also had a question about the overdrive? Why would you need any wires for that if its all mechanical? (just put transmission into OD, right?)
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Im getting ready to do this in a small block 4 wheel drive truck. What did you do about the auto trans coolant lines into the radiator? Ive looked everywhere and cant find any info. Thanks
michael craig just plug the lines off or leave them open even
@@Petersonauto yea thts what i was figuring on. Plugging them off. Thanks man.
I have a 1995 f250 2wd 7.3 ... if i buy a zf547 4x4 will it still fit the engine ? I'm doing a swap on a 1983 f350
Lil Uri yes some small things change like interior parts and crossmember may be different but large parts bolt up. The t case is different but same pattern
How did you end up running the transmission Cross member. I'm looking at doing the swap to my 95 2wd because I'm now on trans number 3 and I think it's time to manual swap
Kenny Roohr Well it’s a heavy duty trans. There is a bellhousing Mount then a rear top mount for specific use like a splitter etc. I used the rear top mount also because I wanted to marry the t case but it’s not needed. If ur keeping a ford engine the bell mount may not be enough give me some more info on your plan
Peterson auto I have a 95 f250 7.3L 2wd powerstroke makeing between 350 and 400 to wheels and the truck just burnt up it's 3rd automatic trans. I am really starting to look into manual swapping it but I'm trying to find out all the little pieces and get everything i will need so when this trans blows I will have everything ready to go for the swap. My last trans was moderitly build and I blew it in 4500 miles or 4 weeks
Kenny Roohr my bad. I thought you wanted a heavy duty trans like my other build. This is the zf5 swap. All bolt in and easy. Use a stock zf5 crossmember for the swap nothing custom holes are even in the frame
Peterson auto ok thanks, if I had all the parts how long would you estimate the swap to take. A day or so I wanted to get a rough estimate
Kenny Roohr To do it right and swap everything out give it a good weekend. But you can do pedals and the small things first then finish up the next chance.
Are the 7.3 idi wiring harness different from the 5 speed vs the automatic ?
Yes they are
Do you need to swap the auto transmission spacer plate for a manual one or will the auto spacer work? Nice vid
HunterDeaton manual doesn’t not use a spacer plate only auto does so remove the plate on the flex plate with the flexolate
I just done this swap and my donor truck did have a tranny block spacer behind the manual and so did the auto...I didn't check for any differences though..I just swapped them.
Did you drill new holes in the frame for the cross? I'm having the same problem with my swap with the zf5 being shorter
Kevin Mueller No holes are there already if you use the right crossmember it will all line up
@@Petersonauto huh I'm using the crossmember from a donor truck just the holes are to far to the rear of the truck
Kevin Mueller there are holes more foward for the zf5 crossmember they are right where the floor gets close to the frame
Do you remember the length of the the prop shaft, i have and ext cab long box and I'm trying to gather all the parts before i rip into it and cant find a definitive length. Thanks
Keyah Anderson I do not have that offhand. They carry a good bit. There are 2 transfer cases used. So every configuration has 2 options.
Hey so what did you do with the wiring for the automatic transmission?
Unplugged that harness and put the manual one in
Does anyone know how to run reverse lights I did 5 speed swap on 96 f350! Just not sure how too do reverse lights!
Christopher Macedo your auto trans has a neutral saftey switch the manual only has the backup switch ford used the same plug so the manual backup light switch will plug right into the auto harness
What did you do for the clutch pedal safety switch? Do the auto trucks have the harness for that?
Micheal Tippetts it’s in the stock harness with a jumper pull jumper plug in
Peterson auto you now about where it’s located on a 97? I’ve been told it’s by the hole in the firewall for slave master cylinder, but I can’t seem to find it on my truck🤷🏼♂️
Micheal Tippetts it varies a bitine was just hanging but I’ve seen some tucked up above the main dash harness and you have to pull the dash
I work in Central pa and I am looking for a trans for my 99 f360. Can you give me the details on the salvage yard?
Weavers in grantville pa is where you want to start if it’s Ford he has it
@@Petersonauto Thank you!! And awesome video! Very easy to follow!
Looking to do this on my super duty 7.3, will I need a new transfer case or can I just get the input shaft from a zf? and does anything need to be done on the driveshaft?
Super duty is a little different iirc the t case will work as is still drive shafts are different and will need swapped
@@Petersonauto cool thanks!
How far north into the middle of pa is this junk yard
30 min above harrisburg
i did the swap but am running the auto pcm ant its real touchy and hard to drive what pcm did you use
johnyq I used the auto pcm. Sometimes ya need to swap to the manual one I’ve heard of issues but never seen any
Doing this swap and having trouble with the crossmember did you end up drilling holes in the frame
Maxwell Usry no the holes line up. It takes the right crossmember though you probally don’t have the right one
What would be the right crossmember
I’ve got a 96 F350 I’m about to swap. It’s a regcab long bed with a 4x4 E4OD currently
Backroad Ballistics the 4x4 96-97 zf5 crossmember would work
Do you have to press clutch pedal to start engine?
Hernan Camal if you remove the jumper and install the clutch pedal switch yes
Hey what started did you use for the swap ?
Stock
Can I do this swap without putting in the manual column ?
Austin Chilcote yes you can. However you would want to still remove the auto shifter from the column. You would have a hole in the cover where the shifter came out
So where does the harness plug in ?
Where the old one unplugs. Follow the auto harness up to the plug. It’s under the truck close to the firewall if I remember correctly. But follow the old one to know the routing etc
What did you do with the auto wiring harness
Gavin Moose removed it and put the manual harness in. If you don’t have the harness jumper the neutral safety switch and cut and splice for the reverse switch
@@Petersonauto can u messange me on Facebook I have a driveshaft question
Aaron Hargiss
@@aaronhargiss3236 there’s about 30 people with that name. I would be glad to if you can narrow it down some
Will this transmission work in an 05 6.0
It would not I think the bell housing is different the 6.0 is a zf6 6 speed process is very similar though
Would you do mine for me?😂😂
If your in the pa area find me on Instagram petersonauto444 we can discuss it
Where can I find this junk yard?
Adam Merideth Harrisburg pa area.
@@Petersonauto but what is the name? And yes I'm local
Weavers
Hey I have a lot of questions on this swap do you have a snapchat or an instagram I could message you on I have one heck of a project going on and im really confused im in North Eastern PA
Dean Watkins not really lol ya have Facebook I can find and add ya there
How do you get the back up lights to work ?? I bought a 95 7.3 4x4 with a zf5 conversion. I have no back up lights though. What do I need to do ??
Phillip There is a harness that runs from the firewall back along the frame to the trans. There is a small sensor for the backup lights this harness connects to the sensor. For what you need I’m not a mind reader and have no idea what is on the trick currently. But ya need more help I’ll do what I can through the internet
Before you do anything, the plugin on the transmission for the reverse lights is near the top of the transmission towards the front on the drivers side. Just check and see if the plug just came unplugged. If the person who did your swap did not get a manual transmission style harness and PCM, then you will not be able to plug in the reverse lights, because the harnesses are different. If not, then whoever did your swap did it the same way i did my auto to manual swap, and hopefully I can help you understand why you don't haver reverse lights.
For my auto to manual swap, I did not get a manual PCM and instead used the automatic PCM. More than likely whoever did your swap did the same thing. This means that you still have the automatic style wire harness that connects the PCM to the transmission. If you look underneath the truck where the harness is (runs down the drivers side of the frame) you will probably find that the only thing plugged in is the plug that goes to the transfer case. The transmission Range Sensor (which is only needed for the automatic transmission) will be tucked up somewhere out of the way and not attached to the manual transmission. What this is doing is fooling your trucks automatic style PCM to think it is in neutral all the time, which allows you to start and drive the vehicle and gives you smooth throttle response. However since your PCM thinks you are always in neutral, you will not have reverse lights. The best way to fix would be to get a manual transmission wire harness with a manual transmission PCM. That way, you can plug in the reverse lights and you won't have to "fool" the PCM into thinking its still an automatic that's in neutral all the time.
Replacing the PCM and harness is my plan of attack, and although its pricey, it will "finish" the swap properly and the truck will operate as if it came from the factory. If you want to splice the wiring and make your own plug to tie the reverse lights into the wiring harness I'm sure its been done but unfortunately I can't give you any advice there.
Hopefully that helps.
Do you have to change the wiring harness from the auto harness to the manual harness?
Just the one that connects to the trans it’s a couple feet long