Got my KJ Classic I, New in box, today. Let me tell you why I got the I series. First, I am on Maui, there is only one dealer and that is Lowe’s. No one else will ship the KJs here. Lowe’s only has 1 series of the Joe. I decided this was fine, due to price and my intended use. We don’t need the rain cap, because it will be under a roof. We don’t need the air hinge because lifting the lid is good exercise and the hinge requires more difficult adjustments. We don’t need the latch because we don’t have the air hinge, so one less thing to fiddle with. We don’t need the better gasket because the difference is arguably negligible and the replacement cost is less. We don’t need the beefier stand because the wires one is cute and it works. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
I have the Big Joe now for more than 4 years, and i made only one mistake in my life concerning the Kamado. I ordered this machine 20 years to late. It is a winner. Greatings from the Netherlands.
My daughter is getting married in August. My wife & I gave them a Joe Jr. back in March….. since they can’t travel for the honeymoon they rented a little cabin by a nice lake & are bringing the Joe Jr with them 🔥. Man I laughed when they told me that 😂.
As a kamado novice with a limited budget I bought a kamado joe junior. Your videos have been very useful & led to some great cooks. Keep the content coming James. Thanks.
Just picked up a KJC 1 this weekend for $450. Spatchcocked thanksgiving turkey was my first cook. Came out really good. Your videos definitely helped take away some of the learning curve. Just wanted to point out that the classic 1 comes with the multi piece firebox now. No idea when they started shipping them like that.
Here in Australia, I had my eyes set on the Joe Jr, but when I added the control tower and cart.. it was a matter of adding $200 and getting classic 2. In terms of the actual needs, Jr was going to be enough. But just went to classic to future proofing a little bit. Your videos have been extremely helpful in making a decision. Thanks matey!
I have both the big Joe series 3 and the Joe Jr, and i agree with you 100%. They both compliment each other perfectly, but if you can only afford to have 1 - go the Big Joe. Go big or go home ;)
I would be interested in seeing how you cook some of your favorite sides while using the two tier system.I know you have done a couple of those combination cooks in the past with Mac and cheese, etc but are there other sides you really like to cook on the KJ while cooking other types of meat.
I LOVE my new Joe Jr- I’ve used it twice already in less than a week of getting it! I only have ever had a gas grill and wanted to try out charcoal with no regrets! So you ladies out there - it’s not just for men/dads! It was easier than I thought. Thanks for the videos James! Btw, I couldn’t find a link for the red thermometer you use.
Purchased the Joe Jr with less than a month of using it loved it so much just went and got the classic 1 since it was on sale rite now for $449...Kamado cooking is definitely a whole different ball game if your picky with your bbq! And it's really not that hard to operate as some people think. This channel has me hooked. Ty!
I have been debating the Weber Master Touch Premium with the swanky hinge and smoke ring/diffuser plate but the Kettle Joe really intrigues me. As a single fella who fell into grilling 7-8 months ago with a Weber Compact Kettle and wanting an upgrade, I get the feeling that a Kettle Joe would probably last me longer than a Weber Master Touch Premium. Such indecision! The prices in the UK are crazy too, you say $499, I say £549 or $770 USD at time of my writing. (The aforementioned Weber is £400'ish)
@@SmokingDadBBQ Unfortunately there is only one retailer in the UK for the SnS Kettle. It has been out of stock for a while and has no 'back in stock' date. I also tossed a coin between that and the Weber, and the Weber won. It was that close I couldn't decide which way to go.
I'm on the fence about which Kamado Joe to buy and was wondering which option you would prefer: having 2 Joe Jr.-s or one Classic II? The thing is that I mostly cook for my family of 4, but in the summer we do regularly entertain guests and need something that can handle up to 8 people. As I see it, you can get up to 3 Jr-s for the price of one Classic II, hence my thinking 😊. I have been finding your videos very informative and like you style. Keep it up, James! Thanks in advance for you 2 cents, Ion
For my little family of 3, my Classic 3 is good enough. Sure, a big Joe would give me more space, but I'm just cooking for 2 adults and a 7 y/o. I'll never be able to eat a huge brisket with my family. I will get a Junior as well, since my 7y/o always wants to help with cooking.
Got my first kamado last year, the Big Joe 3. Recently picked up the Jr. It looks like my priorities are in line! I’d recommend either one to anyone, but if budget and space aren’t primary concerns, I’d recommend this exact combo for anyone who loves to cook.
I have ceramic Kamado and Weber Summit Kamado. They are both excellent but the Weber I love the most (cooks just the same as a Ceramic, better air flow, lighter, won’t crack, half the price of a big Joe, you can get the temp down quicker if it overshoots, it burns for up to 50 hrs at 225 and you can easily quickly go 800f plus- it’s brilliant). I’ve even got a Big Joe half moon grate option in that Summit and a Classic Joe cast iron grate which gives a very large divide and conquer set up, plus you have the GBS system. Out of all of the Joe range it would have to be Big Joe for me as I need that space, you quickly get used to it. Joes are very nice kit.
@@SmokingDadBBQ Do you have one? I haven’t found any issues in that regard (seems to have better airflow). I know you are a Big KJ man but that would be a great video.
I recently purchased my first Kamado Joe... the Joe Jr thanks to your videos. I would love to see a video of using the soapstone in the Joe Jr for pizza. Keep the awesome content coming.
After I got the Big Joe 3, I got the Classic 1. I purchased the newer control kontrol top and the ash basket. Although the big boy has all the features, I’ve been using the smaller one because it takes so much less to grill. However, I love both, having been a Weber man for 3 decades. Watching your videos on temp control has really helped me tame these efficient Kamados!
I was able to get the Classic 1 from a recent sale for $399. Just as an update to this, it actually DOES come with the multi-piece firebox, and the metal side shelves. The rest of the things you mentioned were correct (daisy wheel top, felt ring seal, no latch lock, no air hinge, and no sloroller)
yes depending on the manufacture date the classic 1 can come with the new fire box, a neighbour got the same thing recently as well so i assume they no longer make the old one
James, for us here from the start it is 100% clear the Big Joe is the winner. Straight away I knew the winner and the new editions will be at the end. Everything you said here was told in previous vids. It didn't come as big surprise Jr got the 2nd place, but it was a small one. I knew you love it, but thought you will pick the classic as #2 just because it has all the new perks that makes it a better, do it all cooker. Jr. is do it all you are able to fit cooker. As a brand new Jr. owner I am excited to check these limitation by myself.
Love the Jr. I did a Try-tip brisket like you did recently and it holds temp so so well. I love this thing. It's pretty heavy though and I don't have an SUV to transport it to the beach. I thought you would choose the Big Joe. I would pick that if money wasn't an object. Keep up the awesome videos.
Excellent! I started my kamado lifestyle with a Joe Jr and have been wanting to grow my arsenal with a BJ III. This video reaffirmed what I thought. Thanks!
Another great review! Was a little shocked that the Pellet Joe wasn't #5. I have the Classic (original) and the Jr (recently purchased). Still getting used to the Jr...but I like it. Keep up the great work!
I debated this. the food is much better on the kettle and would be my choice but the quality of the kettle is not the same as the pellet or any other Kamado. the pellet feels well made and the kettle does not share the same sturdy cart, shelves or pull out ash drawer (mine is bending in the kettle vs indestructible on the classic and big Joe)
@@SmokingDadBBQ Yes...figured the flavor profile would rank the kettle a little higher. I think the kettle has some potential. Hopefully, the company is listening to your recommendations. It will never beat the ceramic grills but the price point is a lot better for some folks.
I bought the classic 1 a year ago from lowes for around $700. It comes with the air hinge, the ceramic fire box and the shelves on the side. It lacks that new vent on the top though. I love this grill because during the winter and it's 20 degrees outside I'm still grilling with ease. Now that I know big joe has those accessories like the rotisserie and dojoe I'll pick on of those next. I want a bigger cooking area
I was surprised to see the Jr. take the #2 spot over the classic 3. If it were me and I was going to get one of those two the classic would be my preference for sure. The Jr. is the great value, but the classic is just more grill in every way. I knew that the Big Joe was going to be #1. I also expected you to choose the Kettle Joe over the Pellet Joe, but you made a good case for your choices.
the kettle makes better food than the pellet so I was on the fence... but the quality or lack thereof stands out vs. the other real KJ's so I kept it in last even though i personally would cook on it ahead of the pellet if i only had those two
Thank you for a great video and explaining each grill . I am leaning towards the Kamado Joe Jr since its only my wife and I. But I am bit nervous on this type of bbq since my only experience is a gas BBQ. You got my attention thou that this would give me a different BBQ experience. I am going to check out your other videos too .
I just found the classic 3 in the box for 650 I was like a kid on Christmas morning it was at a discount store I’m mind blown with the price I got it at
Tons of great info here! I'm gonna ride with my 22" Pit Boss for a while yet, but when I'm ready to upgrade I'll definitely be checking out this video again.
I am loving my Big Joe 3, but one slight con for me is "wheelability" due to the weight. Not an issue if you park it in a corner of the deck or patio, but I keep mine in the garage and wheel it out when I want to cook. Fairly smooth surface but there are a couple of bumps along the way and one of the caster kingpins has already bent. Great warranty behind the products, and Kamado Joe are sending out a replacement.
Another great video sir the KJ brand is certainly synonymous with quality and you did another great job walking through all your kids to your favorite!
Great video, James! You answered this for me a few weeks ago on IG. After a few weeks of waiting for one to come in, I’m finally picking up my big joe 3 today!🤙
Good video and good information. I was looking for a small portable grill and had no idea kamado Joe made one that small. Going to have to add it to my outdoor cooking collection.
aww man .. was debating hard between jo jr and classic 2 .. purchased the latter .. expecting it next week .. might spring for a junior next year once i get more comfortable with kamados
Hi James Thanks for your video. It’s helped me choose. The Big Joe it is. I’ve also watched many others. Like your easy presenting style. Keep the videos coming. Ian from London.
Well, I got the Classic II and space indeed can be an issue if you had side dishes to make as well while using half of the grill indirect. Yet there's still the possibility to cook on two levels simultaneously. I admit, not the most comfortable way, but what would live be w/o challenges. The Big Joe is just a bit too expensive, but who knows, maybe I find an unbeatable deal one day, like I did with the Classic II. Still looking for a great deal on the Junior as well.
James thank you for this comparison! I think the torch to start the fire is a pro if you ask me. Further more, because of this video I know the next one, possibly two, I really want to get!
Hey SDBBQ, I picked up a Kamado Joe Classic Series 1 at the hardware store, for $450 on clearance. At that price, I could not resist. Still perfecting my smoking technique but I'm looking forward to throwing a brisket in there. You've become my go-to source for Kamado Joe information, thanks for all the useful information.
@@SmokingDadBBQ Do you ever worry about the ceramic firebox cracking from getting bounced around in the car? I was thinking of removing it or putting a towel under it to act as a cushion.
Well after watching this video, in the early hours of this morning here in South Australia, I went out and purchased the floor stock at the local dealership. Pick it up next Friday!! Thanks for the advice.
I already have the joe JR but this video convinced me to save my pennies and spring for the classic 3. I know you said the big Joe would be your top pick, even a series 2, but I just don't think I have the space. So I think I'll spring for the classic 3 and enjoy all the extra features
it is not cheap… but when I look at it as being able to do things well that an offset would do, a pizza oven would do snd everything in between I feel better about it lol
Even though I don't have any Kamado grill, I love your videos. But one thing which is kind of sad is that all Kamado Joe grills are way more expensive in Europe than they are in the USA. The Kamado Joe Classic 3 for example is about 2000€ (2.448,28$) :(
My guess is Jr is #2 and Big Joe is #1. Slightly surprised as I figured the Classic would be #2. Yup. On the Big Joe space, the Komodo Kamado Big Bad / Serious Big Bad see the Big Joe and go "That's cute." 😁
Great review. Need some help deciding. I currently have the Joe Je. Looking to add another. But can’t decide between the Classic II vs the original Big Joe. We entertain at most 6-8 people a few times a year.
I have a soft spot for the big Joe as it makes full meal cooking a breeze and unless you dip into series 3 the big is better at low and slow than the classic 2
It’s not hard to do an overnight brisket on a kettle. I do them all the time with no issues. Kamado snobbery. Yes it uses more fuel. I just use my oven after I wrap. At that point, btu is btu.
i've done overnight briskets in my kettle joe, it in the same weather goes about 30% longer on a load of coal than performer does which in summer months doesnt really show up. in the cold climate where i am its the difference of sleeping through the night vs. adding a little more fuel prior to dawn
Salut, super comparatif merci!!!! je viens d'avoir le classic 3, son tarif en France est 2270 euros. Le big joe coûte 3000euros. Le prix aide à faire un choix :( La taille du classic 3 me convient parfaitement en plus de mon pit boss 1600 pro serie+side smoker , c'est la bonne combinaison. Le top serait de rajouter le kamado jr ;) . Tes video sont super, merci à toi. bonjour du nord de la france. Hi, great comparison thank you!!!! I just got the classic 3, its price in France is 2270 euros. The big joe costs 3000 euros. The price helps to make a choice :( The size of the classic 3 suits me perfectly in addition to my pit boss 1600 pro serie+side smoker, it's the right combination. The top would be to add the kamado jr ;) . Your videos are great, thank you. hello from the north of france
I really appreciate your calm and focused enthusiasm. I guess it's time to invest in a Kamado Joe now. Reading this I wonder if it sounds like an low key insult, but I don't mean it that way. I'm not enjoying the ferret on speed bbq channels on youtube. Thank you :-D
last summer I ordered a custom built offset smoker with a long waiting list a couple weeks later Amazon had a sale on the big joe one 750 bucks now I regret ordering the custom smoker it just sets
I bought a Joe Jr. as a sidekick to my big smoker, thinking I would use one for “hot and fast” and the other for “low and slow”. Two months later, the smoker has been unused and I’m now a Kamado Joe convert. My Big Joe III is on the way…. So soon I’ll have your #1 and #2 choice on my deck. I’m thinking that I’ll use one for quick weekday cooks and the other for longer, more complicated cooks. I’ll have the answer in 2-4 months, but I’m curious if you think I’ll wind up using the Big Joe all the time. FWIW, it’s only my wife and me at home with occasional dinner guests.
you will love this combo, the jr for just you two quick mid week cooks and the big joe when you are wanting to do full meals and or larger cooks for guests
Ceramic snobbery when you spoke about porcelain on steel. I can cook great food on a $165 Weber in all 4 seasons. The extra thousands of dollars doesn’t not get that gigantic leap in quality. You should review a Weber Kamado!
Not sure it's snobbery, Michael. I've been cooking on Webers for most of my grilling life (until very recently) and the Kamado Joe has been a revelation. It is worth it and I took a hesitant plunge with the cash outlay - so far so good and not much of the Weber guess work. If you can try one, give it go. You won't be disappointed.
Great video. My wife and I just bought our house in fall of '19 and I have a tiny Kingsford mini portable charcoal. Slowly talking her into the vicinity of the Joe line in price, but I also kinda get one shot. We have quite a few house projects that need doing. It's only us two, no kids, and I didn't host lots of people with frequency (in "the before times"). My experience is with a classic weber bucket 22". I've tasted a friend's BGE cooking and I'm enthralled with kamado capabilities. I'm just not sure anymore if I should go for the classic 1 (on a hell of a sale at lowes right now) or a Jr and hope she let's me upgrade later 😅 or wait, budget for a classic 2 or something else. This is all very new to me. I would welcome your input.
I totally didn't expect to see the big joe and junior to be fighting for spot number one. I like that you made this video all about YOUR preference. Different perspectives is always very interesting. for convenient weeknight warrior, is the jr as fast and convenient as a gas BBQ?
Nothing is as fast and convenient as gas, IMO. I love my Jr, but it does take me ~20-30 minutes to set the whole thing up from cold to cooking temperature. It's also pretty small, so you can't do any two zone cooking (say, doing meat and veggies at the same time). I'll turn to my Jr. if I've got a couple hours to set up and cook my food and I'm aiming for smoky flavor. However, if I've got 30 minutes to turn around dinner, the gas grill wins hands down, so long as I remembered to fill up the tank :)
@@SmokingDadBBQ That's good to know! I should clarify that I'm using starter cubes for my Jr right now, so those are going to take some time to light it all up
Good line up and great video once again. Love the big joe i just need to practice getting clean smoke and spend some time with it. Would you say it cooks better with the sloroller or using the deflector plates instead or does it all depend on the meat your cooking? Thanks.
I would love to hear your thoughts. I currently am between purchasing a used Kamado Joe classic 2 for $700 vs a Joe Jr. New for $400. This is just mostly to cook for myself and my wife with the occasional guests. However, I like cooking ahead of the week. This will be my first Kamado. What are your thoughts?
the Jr is a very capable grill and will have warranty whereas the used grill won't (only new owner). Thats a tough call but if its just you and your wife most often i think the jr is plenty
@@SmokingDadBBQ thank you! What do you recommend i get along with it to get started? I'm thinking charcoal basket, starter torch, cover, charcoal, drip pan (10 inch), and a soap stone. Anything else?
Does the big Joe not use a lot more charcoal? Sorry, I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now, and have decided to get a kamado Joe, I'd decided on the classic knowing the limited space, but cheaper costs. Literally for the price of a big Joe three I can get a classic three with rotisserie ikomand and accessories so it makes more sense, but now I can't decide again. 🤣
that’s a great bundle of kit. it’s only my personal preference. I had the classic size for over a decade before getting the larger size and there was nothing I couldn’t do well on it
The average price for a classic three over here in the UK is £1900. And I've found a deal for £2010 (at birstal Garden & leisure, for anyone UK looking to buy) that comes with a joetisserie as well, so, as our family loves camping we've decided to add a Joe jr which will be around the same as a big Joe all together, which as you e said will give us the extra fire for bigger parties and also the Joe experience when we're away. Thanks for the videos they've really helped in making our decision, and I'll be using your first five cooks video to start when it arrives. Cheers James, and keep making the videos, they're much appreciated. 👍
@@SmokingDadBBQ my Sunday morning routine has become wake up early and review your previous videos pertinent to today’s cook while awaiting your newest offering. Hot and fast ribs on the Big Joe 3 today.!
Haha aren’t the stumps gravity smokers over double the price of the big Joe 3? Hope you are winning competitions with it. All jokes aside, I’ve heard they are really nice, and can be custom built!
Great video. Really considering a Joe Jr for a cheaper start and to have one that can get hot quick and fast and be very efficient (and then getting a big offset electronic damper run unit for quantity later). The only thing that concerns me is not being able to do a full brisket on the Jr.
@@SmokingDadBBQ An 8lbs point isn't bad, did it come out good? Do you feel shoving something that big in such a small space is a good thing or a bad thing compared to the bigger ones? Thanks!
I’m looking at upgrading from my 20 year old Webber Kettle to a Kamodo Joe Classic II. My space is limited. I’m wondering how close I can put this grill next to the house while in use? Thanks
At 12:30 you say that the slowroller made you switch from BGE to Kamado Joe, is it really that good? Some people aren’t really enthusiastic about it. Interesting to see your ranking of the different models.
yes and no. the grill can make great smoke rings without the SloRoller so it’s I believe the 4” taller shape, more volume means a cleaner hotter fire is needed to hit the same temps and more distance from the fire that is what I am noticing even though there are small subtle differences with the SloRoller that makes it my go to for brisket or ribs etc
Hi James, gday from Australia. Love your videos mate, the best. I am so keen to get a Big Joe, you have convinced me it is the way to go over the Classic but I really can only afford the series 2. My only question is does the series 2 come with the x ring accessory and does the two tier divide and conquer system allow me set the deflector plates on the lower setting of the divide and conquer system like you have recommended in your previous videos rather than on top of the fire box? Love your work and look forward to your next video. Btw, as a sheep farmer would love to see you do a few more lamb cooks 😃👍🐑 Cheers Andrew
@@SmokingDadBBQ wether it’s low and slow whole shoulder with salt pepper rosemary and garlic in winter, mid week grilled loin chops or summer time hard and fast boned and butterflied leg , you just can’t beat lamb on the bbq. 🐑
Just got a Big Joe 2, but after seeing the price of the add-ons, I probably shoulda got the 3. Question - are you sponsored by KJ? No prob if so, just looking for that disclosure if so. Apologies if I missed it.
congrats, its mixed on grills i have purchased to grills i've been sent to try. i've mentioned this in the unboxing video of those videos but i am not obligated to use it, say anything about it etc. nor do i earn a commission tied to the sale of any kj.
You really must look at the Barrel Kamado - Imagine taking the BigJoe and adding 5 vents, true integrated rotisserie which can be used, simultaneously with a grate, twice the mass rock solid temp control, the ability to raise the fire basket - and divide that basket - as in either side of a rotisserie. This has been designed to look amazing - stoked with features.
Got my KJ Classic I, New in box, today. Let me tell you why I got the I series. First, I am on Maui, there is only one dealer and that is Lowe’s. No one else will ship the KJs here. Lowe’s only has 1 series of the Joe. I decided this was fine, due to price and my intended use. We don’t need the rain cap, because it will be under a roof. We don’t need the air hinge because lifting the lid is good exercise and the hinge requires more difficult adjustments. We don’t need the latch because we don’t have the air hinge, so one less thing to fiddle with. We don’t need the better gasket because the difference is arguably negligible and the replacement cost is less. We don’t need the beefier stand because the wires one is cute and it works. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
I explain Kamado Joe's to my friends like i've owned them for years because of these videos. Great job!
hahaha cheers
I have the Big Joe now for more than 4 years, and i made only one mistake in my life concerning the Kamado. I ordered this machine 20 years to late. It is a winner. Greatings from the Netherlands.
well said
Closing the vents to move them “off the island” was a nice touch! Haha. Very informative!
Thanks! 😃
My daughter is getting married in August. My wife & I gave them a Joe Jr. back in March….. since they can’t travel for the honeymoon they rented a little cabin by a nice lake & are bringing the Joe Jr with them 🔥. Man I laughed when they told me that 😂.
congratulations on both fronts lol
Just got a KJ classic for 319 at lowes. 3 weeks ago it was 799. Holy hell the steal.....holy hell the mark-up
As a kamado novice with a limited budget I bought a kamado joe junior. Your videos have been very useful & led to some great cooks. Keep the content coming James. Thanks.
thanks 🙏 Glad to help
Just picked up a KJC 1 this weekend for $450. Spatchcocked thanksgiving turkey was my first cook. Came out really good. Your videos definitely helped take away some of the learning curve.
Just wanted to point out that the classic 1 comes with the multi piece firebox now. No idea when they started shipping them like that.
thank-you, cheers.... they last longer / don't have the same cracking risk so its a good thing
Here in Australia, I had my eyes set on the Joe Jr, but when I added the control tower and cart.. it was a matter of adding $200 and getting classic 2. In terms of the actual needs, Jr was going to be enough. But just went to classic to future proofing a little bit. Your videos have been extremely helpful in making a decision. Thanks matey!
I have both the big Joe series 3 and the Joe Jr, and i agree with you 100%.
They both compliment each other perfectly, but if you can only afford to have 1 - go the Big Joe. Go big or go home ;)
exactly
I would be interested in seeing how you cook some of your favorite sides while using the two tier system.I know you have done a couple of those combination cooks in the past with Mac and cheese, etc but are there other sides you really like to cook on the KJ while cooking other types of meat.
Now that I have a big joe on the way, I need to justify the size(doubted myself even after pressing the order button)
@@kevinrutledge9602 you'll be surprised what this bad boy can do, I love mine!
Thanks for the idea! Will do more
I LOVE my new Joe Jr- I’ve used it twice already in less than a week of getting it! I only have ever had a gas grill and wanted to try out charcoal with no regrets! So you ladies out there - it’s not just for men/dads! It was easier than I thought. Thanks for the videos James! Btw, I couldn’t find a link for the red thermometer you use.
love to hear this. congratulations- it’s the thermoworks thermapen mk4
Purchased the Joe Jr with less than a month of using it loved it so much just went and got the classic 1 since it was on sale rite now for $449...Kamado cooking is definitely a whole different ball game if your picky with your bbq! And it's really not that hard to operate as some people think. This channel has me hooked. Ty!
thank-you, cheers
I have been debating the Weber Master Touch Premium with the swanky hinge and smoke ring/diffuser plate but the Kettle Joe really intrigues me. As a single fella who fell into grilling 7-8 months ago with a Weber Compact Kettle and wanting an upgrade, I get the feeling that a Kettle Joe would probably last me longer than a Weber Master Touch Premium.
Such indecision! The prices in the UK are crazy too, you say $499, I say £549 or $770 USD at time of my writing. (The aforementioned Weber is £400'ish)
have you looked at the SNS deluxe kettle? that’s a good option too. each has their own advantages and disadvantages
@@SmokingDadBBQ Unfortunately there is only one retailer in the UK for the SnS Kettle. It has been out of stock for a while and has no 'back in stock' date.
I also tossed a coin between that and the Weber, and the Weber won. It was that close I couldn't decide which way to go.
The Joe Jr in my backyard mayyyy have been influenced by you 😉 Happy Canada Day, James 🇨🇦 ✌🏼
haha cheers Mike
I'm on the fence about which Kamado Joe to buy and was wondering which option you would prefer: having 2 Joe Jr.-s or one Classic II?
The thing is that I mostly cook for my family of 4, but in the summer we do regularly entertain guests and need something that can handle up to 8 people. As I see it, you can get up to 3 Jr-s for the price of one Classic II, hence my thinking 😊.
I have been finding your videos very informative and like you style. Keep it up, James!
Thanks in advance for you 2 cents, Ion
For my little family of 3, my Classic 3 is good enough. Sure, a big Joe would give me more space, but I'm just cooking for 2 adults and a 7 y/o. I'll never be able to eat a huge brisket with my family.
I will get a Junior as well, since my 7y/o always wants to help with cooking.
I agree and sounds like a perfect combo
Got my first kamado last year, the Big Joe 3. Recently picked up the Jr.
It looks like my priorities are in line! I’d recommend either one to anyone, but if budget and space aren’t primary concerns, I’d recommend this exact combo for anyone who loves to cook.
100% agree
I have ceramic Kamado and Weber Summit Kamado. They are both excellent but the Weber I love the most (cooks just the same as a Ceramic, better air flow, lighter, won’t crack, half the price of a big Joe, you can get the temp down quicker if it overshoots, it burns for up to 50 hrs at 225 and you can easily quickly go 800f plus- it’s brilliant). I’ve even got a Big Joe half moon grate option in that Summit and a Classic Joe cast iron grate which gives a very large divide and conquer set up, plus you have the GBS system.
Out of all of the Joe range it would have to be Big Joe for me as I need that space, you quickly get used to it. Joes are very nice kit.
I never find the summit smokes as clean. maybe will try a side by side on a brisket. it’s a good unit for sure
@@SmokingDadBBQ Do you have one? I haven’t found any issues in that regard (seems to have better airflow). I know you are a Big KJ man but that would be a great video.
I recently purchased my first Kamado Joe... the Joe Jr thanks to your videos. I would love to see a video of using the soapstone in the Joe Jr for pizza. Keep the awesome content coming.
Great suggestion!
After I got the Big Joe 3, I got the Classic 1. I purchased the newer control kontrol top and the ash basket. Although the big boy has all the features, I’ve been using the smaller one because it takes so much less to grill. However, I love both, having been a Weber man for 3 decades. Watching your videos on temp control has really helped me tame these efficient Kamados!
I was able to get the Classic 1 from a recent sale for $399. Just as an update to this, it actually DOES come with the multi-piece firebox, and the metal side shelves. The rest of the things you mentioned were correct (daisy wheel top, felt ring seal, no latch lock, no air hinge, and no sloroller)
yes depending on the manufacture date the classic 1 can come with the new fire box, a neighbour got the same thing recently as well so i assume they no longer make the old one
Can you not use the slo roller on a classic 2?
I own the top 3 grills mentioned in the video and I called the same order just from looking at the title :) I TOTALLY agree.
awesome. cheers
James, for us here from the start it is 100% clear the Big Joe is the winner. Straight away I knew the winner and the new editions will be at the end. Everything you said here was told in previous vids. It didn't come as big surprise Jr got the 2nd place, but it was a small one. I knew you love it, but thought you will pick the classic as #2 just because it has all the new perks that makes it a better, do it all cooker. Jr. is do it all you are able to fit cooker. As a brand new Jr. owner I am excited to check these limitation by myself.
yes no secrets in previous videos lol
Fantastic overview & review of all the models! The big joe for the wi! This is one I wish I had on my back porch!
Thanks a bunch! Its a beast for sure
Love the Jr. I did a Try-tip brisket like you did recently and it holds temp so so well. I love this thing. It's pretty heavy though and I don't have an SUV to transport it to the beach. I thought you would choose the Big Joe. I would pick that if money wasn't an object. Keep up the awesome videos.
Right on. thanks so much
Excellent! I started my kamado lifestyle with a Joe Jr and have been wanting to grow my arsenal with a BJ III. This video reaffirmed what I thought. Thanks!
cheers Nathan
We love our Big Joe 3 that we bought 3 months ago. So soooo easy to control temps.(thought it would be more difficult)
that surprised me too. it’s so stable, no controllers needed
Another great review! Was a little shocked that the Pellet Joe wasn't #5. I have the Classic (original) and the Jr (recently purchased). Still getting used to the Jr...but I like it. Keep up the great work!
I debated this. the food is much better on the kettle and would be my choice but the quality of the kettle is not the same as the pellet or any other Kamado. the pellet feels well made and the kettle does not share the same sturdy cart, shelves or pull out ash drawer (mine is bending in the kettle vs indestructible on the classic and big Joe)
@@SmokingDadBBQ Yes...figured the flavor profile would rank the kettle a little higher. I think the kettle has some potential. Hopefully, the company is listening to your recommendations. It will never beat the ceramic grills but the price point is a lot better for some folks.
I bought the classic 1 a year ago from lowes for around $700. It comes with the air hinge, the ceramic fire box and the shelves on the side. It lacks that new vent on the top though. I love this grill because during the winter and it's 20 degrees outside I'm still grilling with ease. Now that I know big joe has those accessories like the rotisserie and dojoe I'll pick on of those next. I want a bigger cooking area
congrats
I was surprised to see the Jr. take the #2 spot over the classic 3. If it were me and I was going to get one of those two the classic would be my preference for sure. The Jr. is the great value, but the classic is just more grill in every way.
I knew that the Big Joe was going to be #1. I also expected you to choose the Kettle Joe over the Pellet Joe, but you made a good case for your choices.
the kettle makes better food than the pellet so I was on the fence... but the quality or lack thereof stands out vs. the other real KJ's so I kept it in last even though i personally would cook on it ahead of the pellet if i only had those two
Thank you for a great video and explaining each grill . I am leaning towards the Kamado Joe Jr since its only my wife and I. But I am bit nervous on this type of bbq since my only experience is a gas BBQ. You got my attention thou that this would give me a different BBQ experience. I am going to check out your other videos too .
thanks and good luck with your research
I just found the classic 3 in the box for 650 I was like a kid on Christmas morning it was at a discount store I’m mind blown with the price I got it at
smoking deal lol
Tons of great info here! I'm gonna ride with my 22" Pit Boss for a while yet, but when I'm ready to upgrade I'll definitely be checking out this video again.
right on. enjoy grilling season
I am loving my Big Joe 3, but one slight con for me is "wheelability" due to the weight. Not an issue if you park it in a corner of the deck or patio, but I keep mine in the garage and wheel it out when I want to cook. Fairly smooth surface but there are a couple of bumps along the way and one of the caster kingpins has already bent. Great warranty behind the products, and Kamado Joe are sending out a replacement.
glad they are sorting you out
throw down a few sheets of cheap plywood to roll out on
Another great video sir the KJ brand is certainly synonymous with quality and you did another great job walking through all your kids to your favorite!
haha thanks
Great video, James! You answered this for me a few weeks ago on IG. After a few weeks of waiting for one to come in, I’m finally picking up my big joe 3 today!🤙
That is awesome! congrats
Totally agree with everything on your video. Really informative and helpful especially for those in the market for one!
thanks Steven. Glad you enjoyed it!
Good video and good information. I was looking for a small portable grill and had no idea kamado Joe made one that small. Going to have to add it to my outdoor cooking collection.
Hope you enjoy
aww man .. was debating hard between jo jr and classic 2 .. purchased the latter .. expecting it next week ..
might spring for a junior next year once i get more comfortable with kamados
Right on! congrats
Go big or go home! It's not cheap, but they last forever and are well worth the investment. Good video.
thanks 🙏
I bought a Joe Jr because of your videos and information, thank you!
Doe you still feel the same about your choice?
Hi James
Thanks for your video. It’s helped me choose. The Big Joe it is.
I’ve also watched many others. Like your easy presenting style. Keep the videos coming.
Ian from London.
Glad it helped, thanks Ian
The Joe jr here in Australia is $699. The series 3 is $2,899. We get shafted on prices
smokies... CAD$ is similar for me, Joe Jr. is 649 and Classic 3 is 2600
Price didn't even dropped 8 months after
Really good James for the new aspiring Joe Nation fan to be
cheers Lee
The video we’ve all been waiting for. Amazing job! Have you done cooks in the rain? Can you do a video about your experience and provide any tips?
Thanks so much... actually I have done that recently, here you go - czcams.com/video/rEvNfCOeakA/video.html
I have the Classic 3 and Jr. I'll tell the wife you said the Big Joe was better. It's on you James lol. How's the Keto going?
haha I can take responsibility for that. I am looking to transition diets for something that has some multigrain
I thought i was in the market for a classic 3..... This video made me buy a big joe 3.... It will be arriving soon :)
congrats
Well, I got the Classic II and space indeed can be an issue if you had side dishes to make as well while using half of the grill indirect. Yet there's still the possibility to cook on two levels simultaneously. I admit, not the most comfortable way, but what would live be w/o challenges.
The Big Joe is just a bit too expensive, but who knows, maybe I find an unbeatable deal one day, like I did with the Classic II.
Still looking for a great deal on the Junior as well.
awesome. cheers 🍻
James thank you for this comparison! I think the torch to start the fire is a pro if you ask me. Further more, because of this video I know the next one, possibly two, I really want to get!
awesome thanks
Really great break down of the different models. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey SDBBQ, I picked up a Kamado Joe Classic Series 1 at the hardware store, for $450 on clearance. At that price, I could not resist. Still perfecting my smoking technique but I'm looking forward to throwing a brisket in there. You've become my go-to source for Kamado Joe information, thanks for all the useful information.
congrats and thank-you, cheers.
Have you taken the Joe Jr. out camping? Did you do anything special when packing it up? "Joe on the Go" would be a great video.
good idea. I love taking it places. need to secure it in the car and cool it before going back in the vehicle
@@SmokingDadBBQ Do you ever worry about the ceramic firebox cracking from getting bounced around in the car? I was thinking of removing it or putting a towel under it to act as a cushion.
@@CW4PWR back of a truck or moving van maybe. Most vehicles aren’t that bouncy so I don’t bother
Great video james like always. Keep up your great work💪💪.
Thanks! Will do!
Well after watching this video, in the early hours of this morning here in South Australia, I went out and purchased the floor stock at the local dealership. Pick it up next Friday!!
Thanks for the advice.
congrats
@@SmokingDadBBQ cheers, there are heaps on back order at the moment, extremely popular bit of equipment!
Great video as always! Definitely going with the big Joe 3!
You and me both!
I took your advice and bought the big joe, man what a quality of machine 👏👌🙌👍😍💪.
congratulations
Helpful info on deciding on the Classic III. Thanks
thank-you, cheers
I already have the joe JR but this video convinced me to save my pennies and spring for the classic 3. I know you said the big Joe would be your top pick, even a series 2, but I just don't think I have the space. So I think I'll spring for the classic 3 and enjoy all the extra features
it’s an amazing grill. this is just my personal preference. I had a classic and jr size combo for the last 5 years or so and loved it
@@SmokingDadBBQ I mean ideally I'd have a pro joe built into my patio but I don't see that happening any time soon 😅
I just picked up an 18" KJC2 $550 USD. I hope I don't regret not having the smaller space.
I knew it. I talked to a grill master and he said everyone always complains that they wish they would of bought the big one.
i have never met someone who regrets it
The price of the Big Joe 3 is insane. Would make me start thinking about a dedicated offset to go with weber kettle. Still debating on it.
it is not cheap… but when I look at it as being able to do things well that an offset would do, a pizza oven would do snd everything in between I feel better about it lol
Even though I don't have any Kamado grill, I love your videos. But one thing which is kind of sad is that all Kamado Joe grills are way more expensive in Europe than they are in the USA. The Kamado Joe Classic 3 for example is about 2000€ (2.448,28$) :(
yikes. they are more in Canada where I am from as well (2300 for the classic)
My guess is Jr is #2 and Big Joe is #1. Slightly surprised as I figured the Classic would be #2.
Yup. On the Big Joe space, the Komodo Kamado Big Bad / Serious Big Bad see the Big Joe and go "That's cute." 😁
great guess. nailed it
Great review. Need some help deciding. I currently have the Joe Je. Looking to add another. But can’t decide between the Classic II vs the original Big Joe. We entertain at most 6-8 people a few times a year.
I have a soft spot for the big Joe as it makes full meal cooking a breeze and unless you dip into series 3 the big is better at low and slow than the classic 2
It’s not hard to do an overnight brisket on a kettle. I do them all the time with no issues. Kamado snobbery. Yes it uses more fuel. I just use my oven after I wrap. At that point, btu is btu.
i've done overnight briskets in my kettle joe, it in the same weather goes about 30% longer on a load of coal than performer does which in summer months doesnt really show up. in the cold climate where i am its the difference of sleeping through the night vs. adding a little more fuel prior to dawn
I have one and it's outstanding don't regret the price
congrats
I tried your set up with a brisket steel had some burning on the bottom but on a hole came out good steel miss my stick burner
Salut, super comparatif merci!!!!
je viens d'avoir le classic 3, son tarif en France est 2270 euros.
Le big joe coûte 3000euros. Le prix aide à faire un choix :(
La taille du classic 3 me convient parfaitement en plus de mon pit boss 1600 pro serie+side smoker , c'est la bonne combinaison. Le top serait de rajouter le kamado jr ;) . Tes video sont super, merci à toi. bonjour du nord de la france.
Hi, great comparison thank you!!!!
I just got the classic 3, its price in France is 2270 euros.
The big joe costs 3000 euros. The price helps to make a choice :(
The size of the classic 3 suits me perfectly in addition to my pit boss 1600 pro serie+side smoker, it's the right combination. The top would be to add the kamado jr ;) . Your videos are great, thank you. hello from the north of france
I really appreciate your calm and focused enthusiasm. I guess it's time to invest in a Kamado Joe now.
Reading this I wonder if it sounds like an low key insult, but I don't mean it that way. I'm not enjoying the ferret on speed bbq channels on youtube. Thank you :-D
hahah thanks. cheers 🍻
last summer I ordered a custom built offset smoker with a long waiting list a couple weeks later Amazon had a sale on the big joe one 750 bucks now I regret ordering the custom smoker it just sets
I love my big Joe!!! Thank you for the video.
thanks, cheers
I bought a Joe Jr. as a sidekick to my big smoker, thinking I would use one for “hot and fast” and the other for “low and slow”. Two months later, the smoker has been unused and I’m now a Kamado Joe convert. My Big Joe III is on the way…. So soon I’ll have your #1 and #2 choice on my deck. I’m thinking that I’ll use one for quick weekday cooks and the other for longer, more complicated cooks. I’ll have the answer in 2-4 months, but I’m curious if you think I’ll wind up using the Big Joe all the time. FWIW, it’s only my wife and me at home with occasional dinner guests.
you will love this combo, the jr for just you two quick mid week cooks and the big joe when you are wanting to do full meals and or larger cooks for guests
Ceramic snobbery when you spoke about porcelain on steel. I can cook great food on a $165 Weber in all 4 seasons. The extra thousands of dollars doesn’t not get that gigantic leap in quality.
You should review a Weber Kamado!
i am waiting to borrow a neighbour's summit for that review.
Not sure it's snobbery, Michael. I've been cooking on Webers for most of my grilling life (until very recently) and the Kamado Joe has been a revelation. It is worth it and I took a hesitant plunge with the cash outlay - so far so good and not much of the Weber guess work. If you can try one, give it go. You won't be disappointed.
Great video. My wife and I just bought our house in fall of '19 and I have a tiny Kingsford mini portable charcoal. Slowly talking her into the vicinity of the Joe line in price, but I also kinda get one shot. We have quite a few house projects that need doing. It's only us two, no kids, and I didn't host lots of people with frequency (in "the before times"). My experience is with a classic weber bucket 22". I've tasted a friend's BGE cooking and I'm enthralled with kamado capabilities.
I'm just not sure anymore if I should go for the classic 1 (on a hell of a sale at lowes right now) or a Jr and hope she let's me upgrade later 😅 or wait, budget for a classic 2 or something else. This is all very new to me. I would welcome your input.
for just one grill I would get the classic 1 on sale and try to add the charcoal basket, JoeTisserie and soapstone over time
Very helpful James, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
The company that makes these grills should make you their official brand ambassador, and pay you a commission for every one sold.
oh that would be sweet ... i'd love a cut lol
@@SmokingDadBBQ trus mi boss yuh well deserve the recognition. I would love to have one of these grill, but dem would cost well over 100k in Jamaica.
I totally didn't expect to see the big joe and junior to be fighting for spot number one. I like that you made this video all about YOUR preference. Different perspectives is always very interesting.
for convenient weeknight warrior, is the jr as fast and convenient as a gas BBQ?
Nothing is as fast and convenient as gas, IMO. I love my Jr, but it does take me ~20-30 minutes to set the whole thing up from cold to cooking temperature. It's also pretty small, so you can't do any two zone cooking (say, doing meat and veggies at the same time).
I'll turn to my Jr. if I've got a couple hours to set up and cook my food and I'm aiming for smoky flavor. However, if I've got 30 minutes to turn around dinner, the gas grill wins hands down, so long as I remembered to fill up the tank :)
Thank you very much! with the torch i am cooking on it in less than than my old propane grill
@@SmokingDadBBQ That's good to know! I should clarify that I'm using starter cubes for my Jr right now, so those are going to take some time to light it all up
@@mbojanczyk I take egg cartons or cardboard cup trays, soak aome veg oil, and you have the cheapest and most effective starter
Great video! Lot of information good review.
Much appreciated!
I would of guess 1 & 2 would have been switched around as your favorite.
no big Joe all the way
Good line up and great video once again.
Love the big joe i just need to practice getting clean smoke and spend some time with it. Would you say it cooks better with the sloroller or using the deflector plates instead or does it all depend on the meat your cooking? Thanks.
it performs the same with both I found
If this was in Black & White with no sound I’d be thinking Twilight Zone and when did Rod Serling start wearing glasses?
haha
I would love to hear your thoughts. I currently am between purchasing a used Kamado Joe classic 2 for $700 vs a Joe Jr. New for $400. This is just mostly to cook for myself and my wife with the occasional guests. However, I like cooking ahead of the week. This will be my first Kamado. What are your thoughts?
the Jr is a very capable grill and will have warranty whereas the used grill won't (only new owner). Thats a tough call but if its just you and your wife most often i think the jr is plenty
@@SmokingDadBBQ thank you! What do you recommend i get along with it to get started? I'm thinking charcoal basket, starter torch, cover, charcoal, drip pan (10 inch), and a soap stone. Anything else?
Does the big Joe not use a lot more charcoal?
Sorry, I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now, and have decided to get a kamado Joe, I'd decided on the classic knowing the limited space, but cheaper costs. Literally for the price of a big Joe three I can get a classic three with rotisserie ikomand and accessories so it makes more sense, but now I can't decide again. 🤣
that’s a great bundle of kit. it’s only my personal preference. I had the classic size for over a decade before getting the larger size and there was nothing I couldn’t do well on it
The average price for a classic three over here in the UK is £1900. And I've found a deal for £2010 (at birstal Garden & leisure, for anyone UK looking to buy) that comes with a joetisserie as well, so, as our family loves camping we've decided to add a Joe jr which will be around the same as a big Joe all together, which as you e said will give us the extra fire for bigger parties and also the Joe experience when we're away. Thanks for the videos they've really helped in making our decision, and I'll be using your first five cooks video to start when it arrives. Cheers James, and keep making the videos, they're much appreciated. 👍
As far as the grill gun. A harbor freight weeding torch gets you the same functionality for $20!
that works! we dont have those near us but fire is fire
Just started watching but I am pulling for the Big Joe 3!
you’re in luck lol 😂
@@SmokingDadBBQ my Sunday morning routine has become wake up early and review your previous videos pertinent to today’s cook while awaiting your newest offering. Hot and fast ribs on the Big Joe 3 today.!
I own a Kamado Joe. Great for everything other than smoking large meats.
which size? the big Joe holds more than we ever need but if you’re comparing to an offset sure thing
Happy that I bought the wright model 😌
Good choice!
My Kamado Joe classic is my pizza cooker my go to smoker is a gravity fed Stumps smoker. As a smoker it kicks any Komado cookers butt
right on cheers 🍻
Haha aren’t the stumps gravity smokers over double the price of the big Joe 3? Hope you are winning competitions with it. All jokes aside, I’ve heard they are really nice, and can be custom built!
Your videos are fantastic.
I appreciate that!
Thank you for all of your videos. I just ordered my first Kamado Joe, and went with the Junior. What would you recommend as my first cook?
congrats. perfect timing - czcams.com/video/JA84ZvYL47Y/video.html
PS
My wife allows me one new grill 2021....i was jumping between big joe3 and napoleon prestige phantom....i think the phantom will be my 2022 grill😎
good call
Great video. Really considering a Joe Jr for a cheaper start and to have one that can get hot quick and fast and be very efficient (and then getting a big offset electronic damper run unit for quantity later). The only thing that concerns me is not being able to do a full brisket on the Jr.
that’s the one thing it can’t do. I have done about 8lbs brisket point but can’t do a full packer
@@SmokingDadBBQ An 8lbs point isn't bad, did it come out good? Do you feel shoving something that big in such a small space is a good thing or a bad thing compared to the bigger ones? Thanks!
I’m looking at upgrading from my 20 year old Webber Kettle to a Kamodo Joe Classic II. My space is limited. I’m wondering how close I can put this grill next to the house while in use?
Thanks
At 12:30 you say that the slowroller made you switch from BGE to Kamado Joe, is it really that good? Some people aren’t really enthusiastic about it. Interesting to see your ranking of the different models.
yes and no. the grill can make great smoke rings without the SloRoller so it’s I believe the 4” taller shape, more volume means a cleaner hotter fire is needed to hit the same temps and more distance from the fire that is what I am noticing even though there are small subtle differences with the SloRoller that makes it my go to for brisket or ribs etc
@@SmokingDadBBQ Thanks, that makes a lot of sense to me. Cleaner combustion might be the main effect.
Thank you for the information
thanks, cheers
Hi James, gday from Australia.
Love your videos mate, the best. I am so keen to get a Big Joe, you have convinced me it is the way to go over the Classic but I really can only afford the series 2. My only question is does the series 2 come with the x ring accessory and does the two tier divide and conquer system allow me set the deflector plates on the lower setting of the divide and conquer system like you have recommended in your previous videos rather than on top of the fire box?
Love your work and look forward to your next video.
Btw, as a sheep farmer would love to see you do a few more lamb cooks 😃👍🐑
Cheers
Andrew
100% love more lamb cooks. The 1 and 2 both have a 2 level D&C cooking rack
@@SmokingDadBBQ wether it’s low and slow whole shoulder with salt pepper rosemary and garlic in winter, mid week grilled loin chops or summer time hard and fast boned and butterflied leg , you just can’t beat lamb on the bbq. 🐑
@@andrewdoran7591 making me hungry 🤤
@@SmokingDadBBQ haha, I aim to please 👍
@@SmokingDadBBQ we are lucky here on the farm that we get to grow and eat our own lamb, nothing better
Just got a Big Joe 2, but after seeing the price of the add-ons, I probably shoulda got the 3. Question - are you sponsored by KJ? No prob if so, just looking for that disclosure if so. Apologies if I missed it.
congrats, its mixed on grills i have purchased to grills i've been sent to try. i've mentioned this in the unboxing video of those videos but i am not obligated to use it, say anything about it etc. nor do i earn a commission tied to the sale of any kj.
Fantastic review of your Kamados. My question is--can you use less smoking chunks if they are wrapped in foil with a few holes poked in?
i think the foil would melt, but a metal box works
Good answer. Thank you James...
You really must look at the Barrel Kamado - Imagine taking the BigJoe and adding 5 vents, true integrated rotisserie which can be used, simultaneously with a grate, twice the mass rock solid temp control, the ability to raise the fire basket - and divide that basket - as in either side of a rotisserie. This has been designed to look amazing - stoked with features.
sounds slick
I'm pulling for the Big Joe. I'm averaging 2-4 cooks a week. Question for you, how often are you outside grilling?
sadly about the same 2-4. life gets in the way with having it be higher