Accuforge vs. Personna Lab Blue DE Razor Blades - Are They Honestly One and the Same? 🕵️♂️🪒
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I also like the Lab Blues. Glad to hear it’s the same blade. I’m one of those people (for better or worse) that prefer the lab blues simply because they’re made in the USA. I do my best to support American made products when I can.
My 47’ Aristocrat gives me a great shave no matter which blade I use anyways. So, why not use American? Great video!
Agreed 👍
"I became a giant shill" line killed me
Yes Matt i remember very well
that white proraso was your
first love of wet shave as well
as mine. Although i have more
than 40 soaps and creams in
my den, i always come back
once a week to proraso white.
The unique scent and the way
it leaves my skin is fantastic.
Glad you once again give it a
try before the audience.
Matt, Thanks for doing this side-by-side shave test! Good to know that they are the same blades. I’m sorry to see the Personna name leave - I still remember my Dad shaving with the Personna 74 blades in his razor.
Good tip on the Astra equiv. Comfort Coated / Medical Prep - I still have about 100 from before they moved manufacturing location and they are my favorite or "Goldilocks" blades. Great to hear we still have some USA made DE blades - I'll be moving Accuforge up to the top of my list to buy!
Thank you, Matt. The PSA from days ago regarding the name change and the look was great, but the side by side shave was even better as well as the clarification. 😊👏👊
Thanks Matt! I tried the Personna Comfort Coated and I was not impressed unfortunately. I think I will try the accuforge. Otherwise I will stick to my permasharp and Nacets.
Agreed
Thanks, Matt. I am a beginner to wet shaving although I'm 68. Your tutorials and blade reviews are very helpful. I'm two shaves in so far. The first one didn't go well but the second one was better. I'm learning and appreciate your help.
Good on you to start. Enjoy the process and journey. It will get better each shave. Take care buddy!
Thanks for confirming the blades are the same as old. Love the Gillette Red Tip, in my top 3 vintage Gillette's definitely
I’m glad that they are the same exact blade. The Lab Blue is a great blade, so it’s good that it just changed names!
I’m happy to hear there is no change in the blade. Thanks for making this video!
Great Video Matt. I just read through a lot of your comments and I can't wait for you to go through the whole line of persona blades to get rid of all the confusion and misdirection a lot of people in the wet shaving community are confused about. Hope to meet you in Michigan for Maggard's wet shave meet up in April
Sounds good. I'll be there!
I recently got some black labels from you guys. I haven't tried one yet, but this video does help put my mind at ease.
Thanks Matt. I have purchased the Accuforge from you and they are fantastic blades. Sharp and smooth. I also have the Med Prep, new name Accuthrive. They are also sharp and have less coating than the Accurforge. The Accuthrive comes in a Blue wrapper now and is the same as the original MedPrep, #geofatboy did a comparison review. I have also had the Comfort Coated and they are very inconsistent. I do not find them to be the same as the Med Prep or the Lab Blue (Accuthrive and the Accuforge).
Thank you Matt! Very glad you did the side by side (dang, thinking I need to add a red tip back into my rotation lol).
Good vid Matt. Looking forward to the comparison of all personnas. It is a shame they changed the name after all this time but there are always good reasons by someone.
My favorite blade. They don't last as long as a Feather but they are so much more pleasant to use.
Glad to know their still the same blades. Thank you.
My favs in order: Perma-sharp, Personna Comfort Coat , and RK
Next order from your company and I will try the Accuforge. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for this review. It's good to know I don't have to stock up. I learned that the Comfort Coated is not the Lab Blue. Which makes me wonder which blade is the Lab Blue? I thought only two brands of Personna blades were made in the USA...Lab Blues and Med Preps.
You are correct. And now lab blues come in a black wrapper called accuforge. That's what we reviewed today.
Loved the blade comparison Matt, I use Personna blades here and there depending on the razor, Glad you broke out the old Proraso:)
Hey i was always told the med prep blades were the ones wrapped in blue and the the white wrapped ones were called the lab blues. My box of prep blades have the blue paper. And the white wrapper are the comfort coated but are called lab blues on all othere sites
The name change from Personna to Accuforge is just a name change. Thanks to Matt for letting us know, otherwise we would look for Persona and be left to wonder. I have recently been using Proraso White, and I get good close shaves with it. My usual being Proraso Red. I started to wonder if the Red formula was aiding some irritation on my neck. Answer not really. The culprit was my Futur razor. All the stubble is gone and so was the outer layer of skin. So an affordable
change in razor was also made. Enter the Merkur 34C, and a Feather blade. No irritation with either Proraso White or Red. Next up for the 34C an old fashioned Personna Lab Blue, let's see what happens. Lesson learned is that a less aggressive razor can really work out once you crack the code on its angle.
Great video Matt. I am always confused with the Personna blade names. I use both the palatium and comfort coat. They work for me. At some point I may try the Accuforge. Have a great weekend. 👍
I use the Personna Comfort Coated blades. The do still come in the white wax paper.
Hi Matt, is Rex Supply Co. ever going to come out with a re-loadable blade dispenser ? I don't mind unwrapping the blades and loading such a dispenser for added convenience later or when travelling. Its an accessory the wet shaving world needs back. Maybe when you come out with your new TTO razor, you could surprise us with one! ;-)
Hmm Matt I used to use the white Proraso all the time until I got your charcoal soap and do prefer it a(because it lasts longer and b)because I find it better for my skin. I have not ever tried the Personna and the new Accutek I suspect will be too expensive to ship to Australia. My go to is as always a Feather blade in a Feather AD-D2 or the Rockwell slant cannot think of the design number but almost all of the time I use the Father razor. My method is to do a first pass and then follow it with a second in the opposite direction and finish off with a third and "finishing" pas after applying Thayers medicated witch hazel (not available as medicated anymore only plain or rose or whatever) that makes the remaining stubble stand up and be cut down close to my skin.
Wow! It has been a while since I have seen Matt use the Proraso white.
Thank you for the side by side test.
I let my shave go for a week and was kind of dreading it so used a SR on my head, which felt really good. I tried the single edge from supply co on my face and it just would not shave. If I crank up the gap I get razor burn so that's not an option. I broke out my konsul and it worked beautifully. Funny how blades and gaps and hair and skin types affect your shave.
I’ve had similar experiences with single edge razors, they don’t do well with anything past 3 days of growth, I have the sentry and it’s the best DE razor I have for daily shaving and every other day also, anything beyond 4-5 days I use the Muhle R41 👍😊
The loss of the name Personna Lab Blue is sad. Imagine if the historic moniker "Gillette" was changed to Accushave or something else. Once a name is established with a product it sort of becomes the thing itself.
Yea, to me, Personna was one of those iconic names in wet shaving like Gillette, Simpsons, Proraso, Clubman, etc. And I feel like they had the most iconic wrapper of any blade. It feels disrespectful to the heritage of the brand to change the name. It also just doesn't make much sense to me from a business perspective. Personna was an established name. Everyone knew that name. The name AccuTech AccuForge is never going to catch on.
Great video as always! I haven’t tried lab blues yet, but might have to try out the accuforge.
I use the comfort coated and like them a lot. I have not tried the lab blue.
Are they as mild as Matt says (not that I'd question him but want other's opinion)? Astras are sort of my go-to blades these days with others worked in to the rotation.
@@Scotty_in_Ohio I use both Astra and Comfort Coated and find them similar with a preference towards the Comfort Coated.
I just ordered some accuforge blades from yall recently I’ve never used the original lab blues. I’m still trying to find the best blade for me since I’m still new to wet shaving so far it’s been Gillette platinum but we’ll see how these do.
Hi, 10 months ago I too wet back to wet shaving. I am 81 yrs young and decided wet shaving would be a great hobby to keep me in trouble. Now I have 20 different blade brands from 10 countries, and 8 D/E razors.
To find the blade or blades that would be best with each razor I will use at least 2 different blades for a shave. And write down your findings. My razors have gaps of .45-.55-.68-.71- .74-and ?.
After my experiences I have found that my face and skin loves #1- BIC ASTOR from Greece, #2-Tiger Platinum #3-Tiger Stainless both from Czech Republic, #4-Treet New Stainless from Pakistan. Personna Comfort Coated. The BIC ASTOR IS MY GO TO with every razor. I hope this helps and welcome to the club.
Really interested in these blades but unfortunately in the UK they seem to be impossible to get. I know I could get them through you guys, but the shipping would make it slightly silly, especially if I just wanted to try them :)
Glad they seem to be the same as they are one of my favorites.
That’s my go to blade! Thanks for the review!
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Now I'd like to try Personna blades
Hmmmm, I always thought the Comfort Coated blades were close to what the Lab Blues were like. I'll have to try them both again; I own both and love both, but I'll have to see. I did get some more AccuForge blades from you guys, but I haven't tried them as of yet. I'm in the middle of testing shave soap samples and also the distinct differences between cold and hot shaves (cold everything vs. warm lather, cold everything else vs cold blade, warm everything else). Complicated stuff.
That Wrapper with a W! I caught that. 😂👍🏼
Alway look forward to Matt’s Video’s, they rock.
Looking forward to Arizona’s Wet Shave MEETUP.🥳🏆
Same blade is cool, great blade.😀
I swear Accutec / Personna Industrial Division have the most confusing branding conventions I’ve ever seen.
I have used both and agree they are the same.
The Personna DE blade naming conventions have been confusing and opaque. They are even moreso for their SE blades. I hope that their intention in this new branding is to make it more clear which of their blades are intended for wet shaving and what specifications distinguish one skew item from another.
I might have to pick some of these up.
Great info, Matt, thank you!
PS: I am totally confused after reading the comments and Googling Lab Blue vs Med Prep. Every seller I found called the Comfort Coated blades "Lab Blues". The Personna blades in the blue wrapper were called Med Preps. I look forward to your video that can sort out my confusion. I also recall that the Med Preps were rebranded as AccuThrive. I tend to believe that because those blades sell for $65-$70 per 100 while the Comfort Coated blades sell for less than $20 per 100. Have you opened a can of worms 😱
These names are colloquial terms. Just like fatboy was never used by gillette, but coined a term by individuals.
We ordered directly through accutec. Their catalog doesn't use the term lab blues at all. It does use comfort coated however, and when we order comfort coated, they come in a white wrapper.
Please tell me why any logical conclusion can be made that blades wrapped in white wrappers should be called blues, but blades wrapped in a blue wrapper should be called something different?
@@RazorEmporium There's nothing logical when it comes to "names." My understanding is that the Personna comfort coated blades were at one time in blue wrappers. Over time that changed to white wrappers but the name Lab Blue stayed. So it appears that people selling and using Personna CC blades are just as confused as I am. I have always been told that the Personna blades in blue wrappers were the Med Preps. I assumed that was true because the price was 3-4 times the CC blades. Hopefully, you can clear up the mystery with your video.
When will somebody come out with a redo of Personna 76 tungsten blades?
When someone wants to invest a few million dollars. We already spoke to Accutec and that was their answer.
Thank you.@@RazorEmporium
And they said that "no one here has a record of how to make that blade or where to get that steel from" and that at best it would be a shot in the dark if it was the same as the old ones. Sorry too much risk for what potentially could be a horrible blade and bankrupt us.
OK.@@RazorEmporium
My wife and daughters have very sensitive noses. They have a real problem with what I use as a shaving soap and aftershave is out of the question. In my quest for a great shaving soap I found Proraso White which has very little scent and they don't notice what I am using now. I guess I need to see if the Proraso preshave also meets their approval. Meanwhile, I am open to suggestions for any other shaving products that may meet their approval. Suggestions are welcome!
When was the last time you've seen "Personna Lab Blue" sold? Long time ago I guess because I haven't seen them on sale anywhere.
I was under the impression that the "Personna Comfort Coated" was the same bade, the specs are the same and the PTFE coating was the same. The "Personna Comfort Coated" is one of the sharpest blades I use so I can't imagine it being compared exact;ly to an Astra. Congrats Matt, you've added to thee confusion.😄
We just our last stock of lab blues a few days ago.
Proraso white is less slick then Red but you get less cuts. But I got dupped by razorclub in Europe, they sold Medprep to me with white wrapper
No, you didn't matt is wrong. These are the med prep the blues are the ones in the white rappers. I did a deep dive on this because I was confused too
I'm glad there's a new name. Now there's no mispronouncing the company name! Personna rhymes with Madonna, LOL
Not a fan of comfort coated, pulls against the grain and get irritation. Well need to try these
Matt, thanks for doing this clear comparison. Personna labeling has been so confusing. Several years ago there was the rumor going through the shaving forums that the Med Prep blades and the Lab Blue blades were actually identical, but Personna charged a premium price for the Med Prep blades. I did exactly what you did here, a side-by-shave comparison. I had identical Edwin Jagger DE89 razors, with a Med Prep in one and a Lab blue in the other. It was obvious to me that the two blades felt different on my face, although now I don't recall which of them I liked better. I wrote up my test on one of the shave forums, and I got negative feedback from some people who believed the rumor and told me that I was WRONG. Sigh... can't let people get to you. THANKS for the video!
Nice video but where do the Personna Comfort Coated fit in? They're also made in the USA.
we will do a whole video on all things personna.
Hi mate just wondering if you are still planning to make the lather tutorial video I requested around a month ago using your trotters brush
It's on the list of videos to shoot. It seems the list keeps on growing and growing. We bumped up to two videos a week back in November and may bump up to three soon.
@@RazorEmporium lol of course I completely understand you are very busy, no rush just glad you haven't forgotten and look forward to it whenever it comes out 👍
Just saw the picture of the actual blades toward the beginning. I’m confused again. The box of Personna Comfort Coat blades that I bought tried and didn’t like looked identical to the lab blue here with a very faded print that had Super and Made in the USA on them. But they came in the white envelope. Were those lab blue or comfort coat? I just ordered the Accuforges to try thinking that what I tried before was the Comfort Coat and not Lab Blue.
Great job been wet shaving since 2015. How do you avoid getting getting water and lather all over your shirt. I really try hard not to do that. Also did you play basketball?
we cut out the parts where i wipe shave soap off my shirt :) no- play guitar / bass / piano instead.
So I bought a few of each to try. The ones I bought in the plain wrapper just say Personna etc. The ones in the blue wrapper say for hospital use? are these lab blue?
Hey Matt, just out of curiosity can you tell me the difference between packaging? I know you said the white ones are the comforted coated but I’m confused because places like Blackland market those blades as the ‘Lab Blues’ while I’ve heard the red/white/green box you referred to as lab blues. I’ve also heard a lot of people refer to the one you used in the video as the med prep instead of lab blues. Then to put the cherry on top, I’ve heard that the true med preps are actually called Accuthrive now and they seem quite a bit more expensive from what I’ve heard.
We will have to do a full personna video. Why would the white wrapper ones be called "lab blue" when the blues have a blue wrapper? Makes no sense.
I have a 100 box of Lab blues and they have a white wrapper, the med prep have a blue packet, I also have an 100 box of them, haven’t tried the comfort coat yet but I think they have a white wrapper aswell
Blue wrapper = lab blues. white wrapper = med prep / comfort coated (now accuthrive).
@@RazorEmporium it’s the opposite for the blades I have, the med preps have a blue wrapper with a white square and black writing, the lab blues have just a plain white wrapper, strange that ye have a different idea on the colour of the packets
so why do you think the old "lab blues" were called that (unoffically) if they came in a white wrapper?
If they’re the same why they so much more expensive? Cost more than Feathers.
ask Accutec. They set the price not us.
Don't the "Med Prep" blades say "For Hospital Use" on them? I don't see that printed on my Comfort Coated blades so I'm wondering how can the be the same as the "Med Preps".
Comfort coated is lab blue and comes in a white rappers. These are med prep is that comes in the blue rappers
Just to clarify, the Lab Blues have “for hospital use” on them, correct?
Does the new black wrapper blades have “for hospital use” on them also???
No, those are the "Med Prep" blades
I'm not convinced Lab Blue are different Comfort Coated, have both, used both, feels the same.
Was your "comfort coated" in a white wrapper?
So is Lab Blue not the blade that comes in the rectangular box with 100 in it that says comfort coated and may say super on the blade very lightly? That was my impression. Comes in the white wrapper. Could not stand that blade.
How do these stack up to Personna Platinum? I tried that blade and like it a lot.
No those are comfort coated :) platinum and accuforge are pretty similar. But even the platinum have changed - used to be made in Israel now are German. Will do a comparison video.
@@RazorEmporium Huh - interesting! I have some supposedly "Lab Blue" blades and they are in white wrappers. I can't really tell a difference between them and Med Preps (though they have different markings). If Comfort Coated and Med Preps are the same, why do most vendors charge WAY more for Med Preps?
(Can't say I'm overly fond of either, but the Israeli made Platinums are excellent; haven't yet tried the German-made version and won't need to for a while yet.)
This company should be a college case study for the importance of consistent product branding/messaging. It’s a complete mess. I’m still a little confused!
So which blades are the very faded print that say Super and come in a white wrapper? I tried those and did not like them at all.
If I really like the Personna Platinums (assume they are platinums as they say something like Platinum Chrome on them), are the accuforge blades worth trying?
Separately I just received and tried your Razor Emporium unscented preshave soap and it’s fantastic! I retired my Proraso sensitive preshave.
@@MikeMCT Part of the reason it's such a mess is that the company has changed hands several times, and a few years back Edgewell sold off the American holdings to the company that, up to now, has been making the Med Preps, Lab Blues and Comfort Coated blades, while Edgewell retained the rest. They moved the Platinums / Reds to Germany a couple of years ago; not sure if they are still making the rest they used to make in Israel (e.g. Crystal, Eddison, Tomy, Viking Sword), or if they killed them off.
I suspect Accutech only had a short-term licence for the Personna name as part of the purchase, and have decided not to renew the licence.
Hello dear Matt!
Thank you for doing this examination and sharing it with us.
Believe me, I have no intention of being rude or criticizing for no reason, but I did find it necessary to share with you and the others what I observed as a careful and unbiased observer, so I have to say this:
Even without taking into account the very questionable point of not writing the "MADE in USA" or even the Name of the Brand or Manufacturing Company or even putting a Logo and basically any other kind of writing or sign on those new Blades, and besides the very obvious differences in their appearance (such as the difference in the colour and the material of the metal which reminds us of the poor quality and cheapness, and even the form of the Edge of the Blade itself, and also the wider and more open cutting pattern in the middle of the blade), even we as viewers can notice an obvious difference in their Performances.
I don't know how it can be possible that these two Razor Blades have no difference in their Performances and Feelings, and are exactly the same!
I think you may be confusing "lab blue" and "med prep / comfort coated". Not the same.
@@RazorEmporium No, I am not. I'm just talking about these two specific Razor Blades in this video., about the differences between the Appearances and Performances of the old one (which you wrote and said is the Personna Lab Blue) and the new one (which you wrote and said is the Accuforge),. You can call them A and B or 1 and 2.
Hahahaha, wrapper with a "W".
Someone got it 😂
What you describe as lab blue, some people call it med prep.What do you call med prep it's actually lab blue . Can you correct this exactly? Med prep has always been packaged in a blue wrapper.
Backwards. Other way around. Blue wrapper = lab blue. Med prep = comfort coated = white wrapper.
@@RazorEmporium Everyone calls razor blades in blue paper med prep You are the first person to call them Lab Blue
well I'm right and they are wrong. :) simple as that.
@@RazorEmporium everybody is wrong but me 🤣 enjoy your day 🤣
the game of telephone is EXTREMELY prevailant in our community. Why would a blue wrapper blade not be called the blue? and the white wrapper one be called blue? where does it get that name from? :)
Why are you calling them lab blues? They are the med prep ones
Not according to the manufacturer.
Next time have someone load the blades.....that way you are "blinded" and unbiased ..... Glad to hear these blades are the same, because I can tell you: Personna Made in Germany....are NOT the same as the USA blades......
100% correct
Hey Matt,ur wrong comfort coated =lab blue
Not according to the Accutec rep
@@RazorEmporium med prep=accuthrive,comfort coated=accuforge,fans named comfort coated 'lab blue'，'lab blue' not official name