Geddy Lee’s Noble Response To Steven Tyler And Joe Perry
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- When two different bands hit the road, it's inevitable for them to have a feud, especially if one is a supporting act and less famous than the other. Though both Rush and Aerosmith are two of the biggest rock bands in the world now, there was a time one supported the other, and Geddy Lee had an unpleasant experience with Joe Perry and Steven Tyler. Keep watching to see how Lee behaved after their tour and proved how noble he was.
00:00 The Introduction
00:38 Aerosmith Wasn't Nice To Rush
01:03 Geddy Lee Responded With Kindness
01:24 Joe Perry Apologized
02:11 Kindness Won Between Perry And Lee
02:29 The Outro
#geddylee #aerosmith #joeperry #steventyler - Hudba
Geddy and Rush are always nothing but a class act
Did you see them at the Taylor Hawkins tribute the other day. People were floored by their performance. If you haven't check out. I don't know many Rush songs but I've always known they are incredibly unique and talented artists.peace
Exactly... you never heard anything publicly or privately about Rush ever acting foolishly.
@@sweet--richard.4981 it is, but "acting foolishly" isn't a clever saying on a headstone.
@@sweet--richard.4981 It's a fine line between clever and stupid
@@sweet--richard.4981 The boys in Rush would act like they were reading books and when nobody was looking they'd get wild. Absolute genius deflection!
One of them many reasons why I love Rush, true gentleman.
Yes that and they have written performed and recorded some of the most amazing music in modern history. I love them too brother, always have.
If you’ve ever seen a documentary about Rush, you find out that even as young players they were very adult and evolved. Seriously straight up guys.
True musicians
@@Astro_touches_children And true nerds. That's why I love them!
And mega-stoners in their heyday. Brings you, like, down to earth, man.
Not surprised Joe Perry doesn't remember Rush opening for them. I don't think he even remembers large chunks of the 70's. Steven as well.
The toxic twins...
Yes, he and Tyler were wasted off their ass every time I ever saw them. I’m certainly not surprised to hear that Perry and Tyler treated Rush like crap when they toured and I’m even less surprised that Geddy, Neil and Alex returned the favor with kindness.
I know Rush are all very humble guys, which is miraculous since they are some of the most talented musicians of the 20 and 21st Century. This is why I tell people that Rush was the best band live. I was at every tour since Permanent Waves and I had never seen a band work so hard to accurately reproduce their music.
I was lucky to come up in a time that some of the greatest bands came out in, but just like with Joe Perry, many other bands seemed toasted out of their skulls, playing sloppy and having long pauses between songs while they tried to be comedians.
If I wanted to see comedians, I would buy a ticket to see a good comedian, like Richard Prior or George Carlin, just play your music already and leave the jokes to a proper comedian.
Even the great Zeppelin was less than stellar in the two concerts I went to. Page was completely wasted and playing like shit. The second Zeppelin concert I went to was in an outdoor arena and they played two songs before it began to rain a little and they fucking left the stage and refused to come back. No rain checks, I was pissed and so were 15,000 other people who paid to see Zeppelin.
That was how they treated their fans. Thunder storms in Florida always pass over quickly and as normal, within twenty minutes the rain had stopped, but those pussies wouldn’t come back out on stage. Doesn’t matter, because John Bonham (RIP) was even more wasted than Page.
The guys from Rush never seemed high, much less wasted off of their asses. I got tired of groups charging me good money for tickets only to perform poorly because they have taken several different drugs. I actually don’t see how Tyler has lived this long with all of the drugs he’s done, but then again, Ozzie is still with us somehow?
@@RoarOfWolverine couldn't agree with you more. I have seen almost every Rush tour since hemispheres. The only time Aerosmith totally kicked ass was in1976 "Rocks" tour with Rick Derringer in Philadelphia. Other shows/tours got progressively loose and sloppy. No sizzle in that steak. Just burned up/out old flesh. Rush however got increasingly better. And technology just made the sound and visuals amazing. So happy I was able to see their farewell tour. That's the way to close that part of a stellar career.
@@williamgraw1729 It’s amazing how lucky we are to have grown up during the 60s, 70s and 80s. The 90s wasn’t too bad, but not as many classic bands as the other 3 decades. (Sorry if I assumed your age to be in the geezer range with me. I grew up as a child in the 60s. I was born in 1960, which makes me 62 this year.)
We got to see groups like Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Ted Nugent, Queen, The Who and Led Zeppelin, just to name a few. Of course, I have to mention the greatest of all, Rush.
Rush is the one group I have seen live more than two or three times. None of the other group really toured as often as Rush. That’s what’s so great about them, they are the hardest working band in rock music.
I was watching a video of Triumph on CZcams recently. In the comments there were many people talking about Rush, because they’re both Canadian. Someone was comparing Gil and Neil and Gil replied to the comment and said that Peart was also his favorite drummer and then went on to write that they are without a doubt the hardest working band alive. Gil was saying that Rush worked much harder than them. Less partying and more practice. That’s why they are so great.
I think that in the long run, like 400 years from now, Rush will be held in a much higher regard for what they did. I have seen it, just over the last couple of decades, especially since the internet and CZcams.
Young people are discovering Rush, especially in reaction videos. It seems like a lot of this generation has a better appreciation for technical music than back in the 70s. Everyone was always telling me that Rush sucked and they wondered why I listen to them and went to their concerts.
I feel sorry for the young people who are just discovering Rush for the first time and will never get to see them live. You and I are very, very lucky to experience something that a lot of younger generations would pay a fortune to see. It’s really a pity.
When I was a teenager in the 70s, everyone was into Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Foghat, Foreigner and whatever bands were topping the charts on the top 40 list. No one knew who Rush was. The only friends I had that knew of Rush were my musician friends. In fact, it was a drummer I met in high school that first turned me on to Rush.
He kept telling me about some band from Canada who had a drummer better than Bonham. I was like, “get lost buddy. No one can even match John Bonham!” That’s what I thought, until he invited me over to his house to jam (I’m a guitarist). He put on 2112, which was freshly out at the time.
Just after the Overture we had to help lift my jaw from the floor. I thought I had heard everything., but that album just blew my ass away. Then I was like, “John who? Oh, Bonham, I forgot about him for a minute”.
I ran out and bought every Rush record out at the time, Rush, Fly By Night, Caress Of Steel, 2112 and All The World’s A Stage and learned every lick Lifeson ever recorded. I became a dedicated Rush fanatic after that. Didn’t get to see them live until Permanent Waves, but never missed a tour since.
…and yes, their farewell tour was going out with a bang! It was so hard to believe that they were in their 60s and still outperforming bands half their age. I also liked that they dropped opening acts on the Vapor Trails tour and just put on a three hour show by themselves. Neil Peart was a beast, even at 60 years old he could put 22 year old drummers under the table.
Rush fans are some of the most dedicated fan base and Rush really appreciated the fans and worked very hard to always give us a great show, so we knew their last tour would end with a bang and it did.
I loved the way they started with all of the huge Marshall and Ampeg amp stacks in the background, but the roadies kept coming on stage taking some away and changing the configuration, until they got down to two very small amp/speaker combos and the setting looked like a gymnasium with a hoop in the background. What a perfect touch.
1959. Nice list of artist to have seen. Add to that on my end. Black Sabbath, Yes, Genesis, Kansas and one of my second favorite bands to see (Rush #1) Blue Oyster Cult. Early lazer shows were cool at that time. Rush obviously liked lazers too. So many good memories. I still have most of the tour books from those concerts. As well as my ticket stubs. Most of these shows were under $8.00. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Rush just always had such class. It is probably the no.1 reason they are so loved. Just one more thing that sets Rush above everyone else. Then add in musicality and conviction and dedication to their craft, themselves and their fans?? Hands down, best band ever.
They really are the best band in the history of the world. I get chills watching their induction into the RRHOF. The place just erupts when Jan says, "and from Toronto...".
@@jasonlacroix6083 yes! I cry every time Dave names their albums. ❤💚💜💚❤
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Agreed, and well said...
Yep even though in my heart led Zeppelin is right up there and possibly a notch above but man as a guitarist also learning their songs as a teenager and finding a drummer and bassist who could actually play those parts and do justice to Tom Sawyer and playing limelight at school parties and stuff like that.. always an inspiration and even more amazing that all that wall of sound that you hear is coming from three people man....
RUSH were not only loved for their incredible, awe inspiring music, but for their class and humility as well. They were truly a 'class act'.
Absolutely a class act...Geddy is the embodiment of humility, class and confidence
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Geddy Lee is the embodiment of a beak
@@drmidnight680-kz2le so edgy!
That's why Rush has such devoted fans. They aren't assholes. They are just excellent people who happen to be gifted and successful musicians.
Rush was and will always be the epitome of professionalism. This is why they are so respected.
Rush always supported their openers . Seeing Primus with Rush in 1992 or so was a treat . Rush even turned on their light show for Primus.
I saw that one in Atlanta!
Saw that at Nassau Coliseum!
Saw it in Binghamton, NY. Last tour with an opening act I think. Could be wrong as I didn't see them on Counterparts but saw them opening night for T4E and there was no opener on that one.
If you followed their career, the guys came from good homes and were taught good values by their parents (even though their parents didn't always agree with their music). They decided the formula for success was to do the right things. That doesn't make them perfect, but it sets a standard. Even Gene Simmons from Kiss said they were boring because they weren't out partying. Today, they have solid families and give back to their communities. Many could learn lessons from them. When they were inducted (finally) into the rock hall of fame, I believe the standing ovation for them was one of the longest ever......just sayin'.....
@Steve Wolf More talent in one of his toenail clippings if you ask me...and I'm not even a huge Rush fan. Hard to beat KISS on marketing their meager talent though.
Who's boring ? Gene Simmons . and what does he know about partying anyway ?
From Alex and Geddy has said, they used to hangout in Ace's motel room, back in the day when they toured together.
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I was about to comment on this regarding what Gene Simmons said back then about Rush hate partying and I saw your comment. Yeah, that was said coming from a guy who doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs. Maybe, just said it in jest or maybe his idea of partying is quite different. 😁
My brother in law, who's a session drummer, lived only a couple blocks from Neil Peart (RIP) and said it was nothing at all to see him casually walking around the neighborhood, just being a normal guy doing normal things.
They were good friends, actually, and hung out at local coffee shops and bars all the time. He didn't know Alex and Geddy quite as well but he said you couldn't find 3 more unpretentious, down-to-earth guys anywhere.
Quite jealous of your BIL. Neil was the only celebrity I had ever wanted to meet. Would have never stopped the man in public, though. Had too much respect for him.
They used to eat breakfast in a local diner in my hometown back in 80's. Alex lived about 1km from me. Saw them a few times, totally legit good guys, humble rock stars...
Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson and the late Neil Peart were by far the classiest band ever.
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
In full agreement with that statement.
I agree, but would add the whitehats Triumph as runners up.
Rush always impressed me as a a band almost completely untouched by the nonsense of road life. No shenanigans, just complete focus on the music.
Banging chicks left and right is nonsense? Not to me. Banging groupies makes perfect sense.
It’s one of the reasons why I always thought they were so cool
I don’t think they were quite the angels you think they were, but they didn’t go out of their way to be obnoxious, or get into trouble.
@@joedimaggio3687the only reason I started playing guitar and grew out my hair was to get chicks
Well, a few shenanigans. Read Geddy's book!
Aerosmith treated Kansas horribly, according to the Kansas doc I recently watched. Kansas went on tour with them as an opening act, before Kansas had made it big and when the audience cheered for a Kansas encore, Steven Tyler pulled the cord, literally. He was upset that Kansas was receiving such applause.
I was fortunate to see Rush back in the 80’s, what a band and apparent class act!
Similar to when The Police in their early days tried to provoke a feud talking smack about Rush in interviews. Rush's response was.... well, nothing. Rush completely ignored it. Years later Stewart Copeland and Neil became good friends and Copeland admitted they were trying to instigate a feud to get press but it backfired, Rush was above that sort of thing and didn't respond in kind, leaving The Police looking like jerks...lol. both great bands, but Rush outclassed them there. So cool that so many years later Stewart Copeland brought it up and how he had such high respect for Rush, and especially Neil.
I never actually heard about that, but ... now I remember an incident in high school (early 1980s) where some knuckleheads, knowing I was a Rush fan, started insisting to me that Stewart Copeland was a much better drummer than Neil Peart. I responded pretty much the same way Rush did (particularly since I was, at the time, utterly unfamiliar with The Police beyond having heard a couple songs on the radio). I wonder if these guys had heard The Police's comments and were trying to pull the same thing.
Rush loved the Police and Peart is on record saying such. The Spirit of Radio is a direct influence of the Police with the reggae bit.
I like the Police but Sting seems like such an arrogant asshole.
@@babywah3290 Yes, early 80s Rush was heavily influence by the Police. Listen to Alex's guitar on Signals and Grace Under Pressure and it's unmistakable, Alex was listening to a lot of Andy Summers and said so in interviews at the time.
@@babywah3290The police actually recorded at the same studio that Rush made 7 albums in that Rush called home and that was the long gone LEstudio in Morrin heights Canada . A lot of other artists and bands recorded in that studio Brian Adams , Nazareth, Celine Dion, April wine, Cat Stevens , the Bee gees spent 3 months recording there and Keith Richards from the Rolling stones and many many more . There are videos of Rush playing in that studio on CZcams here so look it up .
I am not surprised. But then saw photos of Neil Peart in Stewart's "Sacred Grove" rehearsal studio. Ged is a decidedly different person, and instructive on how to handle that sort of thing. Geddy Lee has great talent and an identity. When you have that, you are more balanced.
Geddy really shows us how people should treat each other
If Geddy said it we know it's true, he is a man of sophistication, class and talent lightyears above the rest. Rush rules lol but they do ...
You can tell his mother raised him right using her experiences in captivity, along with stressing the importances of work for what you want, and doing so with a sense of integrity during his upbringing. It's also clear that Alex and Neil had similar upbringings, as their folks stressed the same
well said Monty
I saw Rush's first tour as headliners in 1976. They were incredibly kind to the bands backing them up--even when the antics of those bands hurt them, like when the front man for Cheap Trick decided to climb Rush's wall of Marshall amps, which caused a considerable delay when the roadies had to test and restack the amps that tumbled more than 15 feet to the ground. They were always a class act, rock stars who had zero interest in acting like rock stars.
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Robin Zander did that?
That must have been at the Rockford Armory. That was the only time they opened for Rush in 1976.
@@mrvlsmrv
No, my friend, it was (sadly) not. December 16, 1976, at Chicago's acoustically perfect Auditorium Theater. I 've seen hundreds of shows since that one, just before I turned 16, and played bass in even more, in crappy dive bar bands throughout the Midwest, but that show at the Auditorium is absolutely indelible in my memory. (Unlike many other things that have happened in the many years since...)
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 yep,you're right. I rechecked their schedule for 1976. Those were the only ones with Rush that year. You're lucky it wasn't at the Armory. I never went to a concert there. But all my friends didn't like the sound in that place.
Anyway are you sure it was Robin Zander who jumped of the amps? Sounds more like a Rick Nielsen thing (lead guitarist).
LOL......Rush is so far and above Aeroshit that it's comical. Rush is and always will be NOTHING BUT CLASS.
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
That`s one of the things about Rush, class act!!
I have to respect a man who is respectful to others. Much respect for Geddy and also for Joe’s apology.
"We desperately wanted to use t-shirts and jeans, but it wasn't like that back then.
In the end it was all back to the music."
Geedy Lee about stage clothes.
When your craft is your love, there is nothing else but the happiness it brings, to you and to others.
Geddy has a good heart, that he can show love and kindness to those who treated him poorly and didn't deserve the time of day. Jesus taught this very thing.
I wouldn’t go that far to compare them to Jesus. They’re self proclaimed atheists
@@JC-sj2pd well, Ged’s Jewish, they don’t believe in Jesus. Neil was an agnostic, not an atheist. Alex? Not sure what he believes.
"Those who believeth in Geddy shall have everlasting bass strings, and those who do not...well..."
@@lerxstdirkst6181 He's Jewish by race, not by faith. Not that it matters. He's an individual I liked to meet.
@@bigboxes How does one know another’s beliefs? Geddy is a very interesting person, I never said otherwise.
Of course my favorite band responded like they did … 👦👨🏻🧑🏻
We RUSH fans are the most blessed!!!
🎸🥁🎸
Continue to lead Mr. Geddy Lee. 🐐🐐🐐
According to the Kansas documentary, this happened with them as well. Steve Tyler went so far as to cut the band's PA in front of their home town crowd and it didn't bode well for Mr. Tyler. Like Geddy, the guys in Kansas were grounded and affable pros. Also, like Rush, they were the better band.
Me and my late son went to so many Rush concerts and were ALWAYS blown away with their muscianship and class act. Such great examples to not just youth but everybody!
Spencer, have you come across Neil yet?
Dude I lost my 28 year old son a couple years ago in a motorcycle accident I'm in my 60s and I feel your pain. My son was a drummer and bass player and worship Neil, I think our sons are hanging out with Neil.
@@thomasreid3707 Couple days ago made 7 yrs. 2 days prior had one of those chest-ripping cries. Had just watched "V for Vendetta" alone, which, like so many other of our DVDs, I'd only seen with him. Hadn't broke down like that for probably a year. At least it wasn't long and anguish filled like before.
Strange world. Just 2 mos. after Spencer a coworker's 28 yo son dies on his motorcycle. Then a month after that we (LVFD) run just a 1/2 mile up the street on a 28 yo who slammed his bike into a p-up truck. Just 90* out of the station and a 1/2 mile is where Spencer died. But unlike my boy, this other kid was hauling butt AND went to pass on the right while the truck was turning left into his hood. He hit that truck so hard his wallet became wedged in the gap between the bed and cab! A Good Sam was futilely giving cpr, but as with almost every trauma code, he was gone.
Thank you for your kind words and happy thought. Neil had SO many fans I hope he'll let our boys hang for a while as they await the rest of us.
Kansas said similar things about Aerosmith as well in their documentary. About turning down their sound.
Steven Tyler tried to unplug them.
Not surprised, Rush are just very nice Canadian boys! RIP professor
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Aerosmith were notorious for treating opening acts like shit. Kiss(The band threatened to throw all of Aerosmith's equipment in the orchestra pit if they didn't move it toward the back so Kiss could have room to play, Switchblade knives were drawn and a roadie ended up getting locked in a flight case), Kansas, Rush, Boston...... Kansas is the funniest story. Kansas played a few shows opening for Aerosmith. When Aerosmith felt like Kansas were stealing the show Steven Tyler would pull the plug on their set literally. They would lose power and have to leave the stage. Kansas caught wind of this and had their roadies install fake power cords on one side of the stage, Kansas were playing in their home town and the crowd were loving it. Steven wanted the power pulled and the roadies proceeded to pull the plugs but to no avail. Steven went running over and started helping trace the plugs but couldn't figure it out so as Kansas finished their set Steven was on the side of the stage chewing his gum maniacally and was ready to kick their ass until Dave Hope, the bassist of Kansas that stood 6'3" and weighted about 200 pounds at the time asked Steven if there was an issue and Steven said no and walked away.
hahaha. Another prima donna rock singer... incredibly gifted and also incredibly emotionally stinted.
Kansas is a good band, but again long solo's put them also over the timeline. 95% of fans are there for the headliner. Aerosmith got the fine and paid the bill. If you were costing me money every night for not hitting the deadline, i'd unplug you too. This is nothing new when your a support act....support act...you go in and play your 30 minutes whatever. The headliners fans couldn't care less who opened. Aerosmith were that big, it didn't matter.
@@martiniguy7877 set time wasn't the issue. These bands could be 20 minutes into a 45 minute set and have the power yanked because they were being too well recieved
Support bands get their time. They just don’t like being a support band. Highly unlikely it was pulled halfway through a set as headliners didn’t sit there watching the opening act, and neither did the headliners fans.
I saw them in concert years ago. One of the best shows I’ve seen.
It's 2022 and Steven Tyler is STILL in rehab. He's an incredible entertainer with no semblance of a life beyond that. Thank God for his music. At least the world has that for his time here.
He's very talented, but cannot be 'normal'. Back in the 70's, the drugs brought out the devil inside him. He's lovable, now, but he behaved very badly in the 70's.
I think he is actually ashamed of himself and has tried to make amends to everyone he hurt.
I guess its no shocker. If you go back to the very beginning and analyze the gist of his lyrical ideas, he clearly saw life through a cynical as well as hedonistic haze. a personal life characterized by constantly sabotaging himself and others with his addictive, selfish pursuits of sensual enhancements and thrills seems a natural reflection of life from art?
let's face it - I couldn't be more in love with these guys as a straight man. I adore the members of rush. what a wonderful group of guys
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
When you make it in the big league as a 3-piece band, you know you're good.
First time I heard Rush, I thought there at least five guys in the band. I got to college in ‘81, one of my friends was a HUGE Rush fan. “No. Dude, there are only three.” I was floored. All that, from three guys? Fortunately, I have made it to a seated position but I’m still on the floor in 2024. Great band. RIP, Neil Peart. Gone too soon.
I saw RUSH more than fifteen times, loved every show I attended. The thing I've always heard is the guys in RUSH are class acts. On the other hand, I've heard plenty and Aerosmith to believe what Geddy said. I saw Aerosmith in concert as well and it doesn't compare to a RUSH concert.
Yeah, there were chicks at the Aerosmith show and none at the Rush show.
My first concert was Aerosmith ("Night in the Ruts" tour w/out Joe Perry) and I saw Rush about 2 or 3 concerts later ("Permanent Waves" tour).
As you said, there was just no comparison. Aerosmith was actually BORING. I enjoyed their opener, a Buffalo band called Talas (with Billy Sheehan on bass) quite a bit more--which may explain why Aerosmith was so sensitive about their opening acts. I was lucky enough to see Rush five more times.
Rush are a legend band
A friend of mine served Geddy Lee and his family at a restaurant in Toronto. They told me that he came across as a perfect gentleman, a family man, and was very appreciative of the services received at the restaurant. He is a class act.
According to Bob Kelleher (Kelly) Aerosmith's road manager, Rush was the support act and because they never finished their set at the scheduled time ,that pushed Aerosmith past curfew and they were constantly fined (headliner pays the fine). "Rush probably hates me, i gave them a hard time" as they would keep doing it.
i personally did attend a december 1976 show with both bands which did finish at 11:20 (11pm was curfew) and missed a bus home during a snowy bitterly freezing cold night!
Great to read the other side of the story. Thank you for the anecdote.
@martini guy- I'm sure the dope heads in Aerosmith didn't mind the delay. Gave them time to 'Juice up'. Better talent needs more time, anyway. Should have never been a second liner to them or Kiss in my opinion
I just finished Nothin' to Lose: The Making of KISS 1972-1975 for a 2nd read and the words from Geddy, Alex, and Neal were nothing but good about KISS. Seems they bonded pretty well in the 50 some odd dates they opened for KISS and allowing them to do sound checks. You could tell by their words they were very appreciative. They said touring with KISS showed them that you have to play your heart out every show and how to treat your opening acts with respect which Rush passed down.
You wouldn't think Geddy and Gene Simmons would get along, but when you consider they are both singing rock bass players whose parents were holocaust survivors, it starts to make more sense.
Rush are a class act. They continued to produce great music until they decided to retire. Aerosmith stopped making great albums in the 70’s. They can’t even come within 100 miles of the skill level of Geddy, Alex, and Neil (Rest in Peace). Plus, Rush never sold out. They always did everything on their own terms. Aerosmith laid down for the man long ago. Steven Tyler being a judge on American Idol was the final nail in the coffin of Aerosmith’s relevancy.
Of course Rush sold out. Almost every big rock band or act in the 70s adopted a more polished sound in the 80s and beyond. Rush, Queen, Genesis, Yes, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Deep Purple and so on. It doesn't mean the music wasn't good, but albums like Power Windows and Hold Your Fire sound almost nothing like their prog rock days.
"didn't even remember touring with Rush"... Well that says it all.
no excuses
The first time I saw Rush live was in the mid seventies. They were one of the two warm up bands that played before BOC. The audience did not want Rush to leave the stage. During BOC’s performance they were still screaming for Rush to come back!
And BOC is a great band, I think I saw RUSH about 7 times and BOC maybe 2-3 times
I saw BOC open for Rush twice in the 80's.
@@cvn6555 that’s cool
@@cvn6555Saw BOC open for Rush on the Power Windows tour in 86. Great show.
Boards of Canada?
No band comes close to Rush. I have many likes and are very different is sound and feeling. There will always be Rush, they are right there with the Beatles for me ❤️🏆❤️
Rush was always a great band in every possible sense of the word. Their fans are Legion!
Love both bands! Grew up with them. If I had to pick a favorite between the two it would be Rush.
Rush's music was so comforting to me I actually dozed off during a concert for a bit to be awaken by some exploding effect on stage. Their music is a true blessing!
Would expect nothing less from Geddy! I'm sure Aerosmith felt a bit intimidated following a band of the magnitude of Rush... both amazing bands, obviously, one much classier than the other!
Gene Simmons here: I don't understand you
I read where Geddy said that they struggled with the decision in later years to drop having opening acts, because they had to cram in too many favorites for their fans, but really believed in giving a younger band an opportunity to get a break, just as they had benefited from years before.
Yes, and as they got older they played longer sets, at 65 playing 3 hours of Rush music, and putting in maximum effort night after night. Dudes put in some serious work.
There was a similar situation with Blue Oyster Cult in the 70' opening for Aerosmith. I was there that night at the Springfield civic center in Springfield Massachusetts. The same kind of treatment, only use the front lights, no laser show, lowered the volume, etc. It turned into a feud because after BOC finished their set and they were loaded up in the truck, one of the BOC crew members pulled just one of the legs of the power and it damaged the P.A. system and lights. The show wasn't cancelled, it was delayed while someone relayed parts from Boston to fix the issues.
Rush was seen as sort of a new age progressive rock even to the point of experimental, they did not exactly fit everyone's idea of an opening act for rockers like Aerosmith. Rush also was strictly no drug so it rubbed some other bands off as being prude.
As it was Rush was delayed getting signed as they told every label chasing them it would take a $75,000 advance up front fee to sign Geddy, Neal and Alex. Mercury eventually stepped up to the plate and took a chance. Winning big.
RUSH liked their smokables. 😁
_"As it was Rush was delayed getting signed as they told every label chasing them it would take a $75,000 advance up front fee to sign Geddy, Neal and Alex."_
Sauce? I've *never* heard anything close to this before, and I've been a Rush fan since the 70s.
@@lerxstdirkst6181 Yep... the joint I passed with Geddy & Alex on a loading dock in the 70s certainly wasn't tobacco... got me backstage passes!
The boys in Rush may have imbibed a little of the MJ, but they never did it before I suspect any they were about getting the job done and performing at their best. Their music can't be half assed.
Let's face it, one of the reasons they lasted 4 decades and had the constant success was because they didn't let the rock n roll lifestyle take over.
Aerosmith? I am shocked Perry and Tyler are still alive
Yeah Rush got high! They just never went out there like Aero. Rush admit they were too messed up when they did Caress. It just wasn't a problem for them. Seeing that Rush lasted over 40 yrs. Aero still struggling. Steven just got of treatment for pills, etc.
I remember his answer to one of the most profound questions I have ever heard-
When Bob and Doug McKenzie heard Geddy say he had the lyric sheet memorized, Doug asked him,
"How did you do that so fast?"
To which Geddy answered-
"I'm a professional, eh?"
It was a beauty!
Aerosmith was established in 1970 and had always been a disfuncional bunch with a few alcoholics and illegal or controlled substance abusing dudes but, a great 👍 collection of pop rock 🎸 preceded them superb hits and stage presence. Rush was established in 1968 and needs nobody but their fans and their own families…, I never heard of any personal problems on these professional musicians that happen to also be decent humans😊. When it come to be a Master whom other bands worship.., Rush will live forever
Joe can't remember but apologizes anyways. Good on him and better on Rush.
Rush, always a class act and solid performances. Aerosmith on the other hand, SMH, of course Joe Perry doesn't remember touring with Rush back then, Aerosmith was constantly wired/strung out, they probably don't remember half of their own performances 😅
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Only Aerosmith concert I ever attended, Tyler was falling down drunk. Perry was pissed at him and I left the concert after they butchered the second song "Back in the Saddle".
My opinion, they never did anything as good as those first 4 albums.
Thank you for the RUSH trivia!
Fantastic story for a Aerosmith and Rush Fanatic. Never ever knew that they toured together either and I’ve seen them both over the years at least 25 times and counting (Aerosmith in Bangor, Fenway and MGM LV). Thanks and I’m a new subscriber now👍🏻💪🏻🎸
And you purposely went to see Aerosmith again? May I ask why?
Years ago I saw Aerosmith with ZZ Top opening for them and si senor, Aerosmith was much louder and had a better mix. I liked Aerosmith back in the early days when they rocked but after Rocks they became just another corporate pop band to me. As for Billy, Dusty, and Frank, and Geddy Lee, Neil Peart, and Alex Lifeson..they always brought it and without the drama. And both ZZ Top and Rush were way more talented than Aerosmith anyhow.
My fist your face 🙎♀️
Class acts that have talent don’t need the shenanigans to stand out.
I seem to be in the minority and I don't understand why, but I like "Draw The Line" and rank it right there with the previous four albums. But I agree, after the breakup they got kinda poppy. Had a couple good songs, though. I think "St. John" fits in with the early days stuff.
@@joeseddit Rock in a Hard Place, and Night in the Ruts have some great songs too but the band was in free fall. Draw the Line was like their last-gasp of drug-induced inspiration, and I agree, it's a good album.
They are a corporate entity now. They don't write and arrange songs anything like they did from 1980 backward......Those first 4 albums though, so damn good.....great hard rock.
@@btrav667 Yeah, looking back, seems like a lot of the 70s artists weren't sure what to do with MTV. At the time, it seemed like MTV could change the music industry. Turns out that it really didn't, but it might've changed some of these artists for a short period of time.
Let’s keep it simple stupid…. RUSH will always be one of the world’s GREATEST ROCK bands ever!!! And Aerosmith is just one rock band that never gets mentioned as one of the greatest rock bands ever!!! Thank you RUSH for all the GREAT MUSIC and MEMORIES!!!
Is that a joke? Aerosmith absolutely is one of the greatest rock bands of all and had a much bigger impact on music than Rush did
@@shaanchaudhry5719 Rush was a band with a small cult following. Aerosmith was much bigger.
2 Timeless Awesome Bands,Great Music,Nuthin but Good Times!
Nice to see Joe’s growth since this early days.
Steven Tyler hasn't written a rock and roll song in over 40 years. He doesn't like Rush, he doesn't like Kiss. I think he doesn't like himself.
I have to disagree with over 40 years.
I loved " Rock n A Hard Place" (82) and "Done with Mirrors " (85)
He doesn' t like Rush or Kiss?
@@jgsrhythm100 True, he hates Kiss, and was unprofessional and nasty toward Rush when Rush opened for Aerosmith. It's in this video.
Let’s give Joe some credit for his humility as well. Bunch of classic guys all around.
Aerosmith behaved badly in the 70's and they know it. It was the drugs. The amount they were doing would make anyone lose their moral compass.
Rush is legendary for their diplomacy and honorable behavior.....
My favourite band, for both their music and their humanity.
Rush surpassed Aerosmith with their instrumentals alone I never care about Aerosmith after Rocks!
I know right and that was my favorite album rocks and I have it on my wall, I'm 58, and play Bass since 1980 because of Aerosmith and rush
Rush being a three-piece is one of the greatest bands in the world. I don't care what anyone says. RUSH live long and prosper. RUSH fan 4 life...
0:51- Wow that's probably a frat razing thing, because in their autobiography 'Walk This Way' Joe Perry says exactly the same thing in regards to The Kinks, Aerosmith opened for them in 1973, when touring for their debut record and says The Kinks not only didn't let them have a sound check but also referred to he band as 'Harry Smith'. So maybe Steve And Joe took their Davies Bros. anger out on Rush when the Canadians were opening for them a year or so later.
Oh, those Canadians. So nice and polite. Rush, a class act in every sense.
I deleted a previous comment I made on this subject. Upon thinking about it I'm more than certain in the drugged out haze Aerosmith lived in for much of the 70's this may not be something that was remembered. The noteworthy point of the story is that RUSH proved themselves to be not only one of the finest bands that ever existed but some of the finest human beings also!
Rush changed music and moved the ball forward. Aerosmith added to a pre-existing catalog. Huge difference in contributions.
I love Aerosmith, but they will always be a Diet Coke version of the Rolling Stones.
Geddy Lee is one of the finest humans ever!
I never got to see Rush in concert (bummer) but me and my brother still listen to 2112 a lot and every interview we saw of Geddy there were three longer ones he seemed down to Earth to the max and to mention he had maximum intel not only about music but many other things else. Super Kool Band.
I have never be an Aerosmith fan, but I have seen them. Nothing they have produced can equal the power and majesty of Rush. The Men of Rush have an over abundance of humility, generosity, and class. These are not the traits of heroin addicts.
Well stated, and so very true.
there is that classic Rush fan arrogance / ignorance ...lol you know the pricks in Rush mistreated and bullied the Girls in the Runaways so badly that Joan Jett pissed all over Rush's guitars ! lol
dont miss the "arrogant professor " pompous peart at all, glad he is gone, take his curmudgeon arrogance with him.
Really?
@@Slapjabber Really!
@@lilajagears8317 nah, Aerosmith blows Rush away
I think that's something underlined by their time opening for KISS too. RUSH was probably always going to be kind and professional to openers, but KISS were pretty well known for really standing up for their opening acts too.
True. Gene Simmons made sure they were taken care of. KISS ended the relationship with Rush (supposedly Rush were "ripping off" parts of KISS' show, but the fact was people started going to see Rush more than KISS, and they had to get rid of Rush).
@@malinwj1167 I didn't hear about the last part. I think there's still pretty good, friendly relations there though.
Always liked their music. So thankful I was a teenager in their heyday. When concerts were 5 or 7 bucks.
Two of my favorite bands of all time
I said a long time ago, Alex, Geddy, and Neal always struck me as a bunch of guys it'd just be cool to go out and have a few brews with.
It's obvious who has the most class between these two
Tyler did stuff to Kansas on tour as well. Joe didn’t remember touring with Rush? Ya right.
Those attitudes right there, from both sides, are part of the reasons both bands lasted SO long together and became so successful.
Perry is a class act, as are Rush.
Aerosmith aren't the first band to treat their support band like crap. Only Rush could respond with dignity and class.
Rush; a class act sorely missed.
The guys in Rush are musicians, the guys in Aerosmith are rock stars. Big difference ! TY Geddy !
Lots and lots of great music from both bands. I've seen RUSH more times than I've seen Aerosmith.
Two different types of rock and roll both bands kick ass
rush took the lead when aerosmith when joe and brad left. aerosmith hasn't had a great album since the 70's
@@metadeth578 rush probably hasn't had one since the 80s
@@jerrywoods4066 maybe not but they're more superior musicians
@@metadeth578 the drumming for sure. Tyler is a much better vocalist. For guitarist neither one is in my tops. But both good
@@jerrywoods4066 geddy is a better bassist
At this point I'm sure Perry doesn't even remember his last show.
Great video, that is so Rush. Classiet guys in rock.
RUSH FANS are not at all surprised by The Group's Classy handling of the situation back in the day. Even now days Most Rock Fans know of about RUSH's humble attitude. Quite proud to STILL call them Family since April of 1975!
No rush members in rehab.😜
Does that make them better?
Neal Peart was an admitted heavy hard alcohol drinking alcoholic.
And guess what..
He died at a much too early age.
And your point is….?
Exactly.
The drummer is what really stands out and what makes them better for me.
@@robpaxson4455 Not to me. Their music is out of this world and that’s what I love. We are all human.🦋
@@HB-yk4ut exactly
Both great bands. But I hardly ever listen to Aerosmith any more. On the other hand I often listen to Rush.... The compositions are generally far superior. Though, Aerosmith had many gems.
You just wouldn’t expect anything else from Geddy Alex or Neil. Always were a class act in every respect 🙌
“An answer when mild turns away rage “
I have a hard time believing Aerosmith remember anything in the 70s.
Hey Rush fans. Take a cue from Geddy, and be better. Joe Perry clearly felt bad about what happened, and apologized. Why would that have to turn into a bunch of snide comments at the expense of Aerosmith? You're not taking the high road that Geddy and Rush took. Though I love both bands, Rush is higher in my personal list because I love Prog Rock. But Aerosmith, to me, was the premiere American band in the 70s. The main point of the video is how noble Geddy was about the incident, but another point is that Perry regretted it, and stood up like a man, took some responsibility, and apologized. Bashing Aerosmith shows you missed the entire point here.
Well said
@@dwstoeckel4740 Thank you
Aerosmith are dicks and they deserve all the scorn they've earned. I for one enjoy seeing them called out. I'm not nearly as nice as geddy Lee.
Very well said Kevin Courtright !!!
Cheers to you !!
100%🤘🏼
What a very nice anecdote.
Both Bands Awesome, both Bands highest Standings...I have had the pleasure to meet them all...and I tip my hat to them.
Knowing the drugs and these guys being jerks, it’s no surprise they were jerks to Rush
Rush is so much better than Aerosmith, and they knew it, that's why they wasn't giving a sound check, as to make them sound like crap. Rush is and always will be the classiest band in any music genre.
Rush are great musicians, who bore me to sleep
Come on man
Music isn’t a competition, it’s art.
Art is always subjective.
Besides, they are completely different styles.
You just sound like a butthurt Rush fan.
SMFH
@@robpaxson4455 So sorry you have excess ear wax.
@@atomicwedgie8176 just my opinion
Aerosmith had a few good albums in the 70s but they're mostly known for those sappy ballads, which they don't even write. Rush are superb musicians and even better gentlemen.
I'm sure being a rock star is great, but being a gentleman is much more valuable.
The Toxic Twins were just that, toxic! The whole rock scene owes Rush their respects, as Rush has been a Institution for ANY musician since they formed band back In the 70´s.