Question, aren't we suppose to first make sure that the treble, bass and equalization is first set to flat? DSP settings off? Last question; if I'm not mistaken when you check the head unit with the SMD tracks wouldn't it be the first 2 tracks and not track 6 which is with overlap? Not picking just trying to understand the difference. Thanks for all the that you guys do for this industry. Keep it up!
Got an idea...make a video showing the achievement of finding out max volumes of hu's with DD1...THEN, show the adjustments of eq'ing and adjusting the music. NO one does this and people ask the same friggin' question: "Do I have to listen to my music with flat settings and no adjustments?"
Great videos btw. I have learned a lot from them. I already have a DD1 and just purchased a Pioneer AVH-X4800BS and can't wait to install. I have been watching your videos regarding that headunit and like what I see.
Cool. I have this exact same HU. So you guys just saved me the money and now I know 38 is the volume limit. I wouldn't buy jack that puts money into the hands of that dousche.
what was the settings for CD and USB i didnt see either of those on the test? awesome vid by the way ive always been curious about this ive got the 5800bhs in my Tahoe and love it thanks for the vids
So why not max out the. Volume setting (40) then reducing the source volume level until not clipping or distortion is detected. That way no one ever turns it up to far and destroys speakers 🔊
I understand in this instructional video you use an aftermarket Pioneer. If I use a Toyota factory navigation head unit that is stepped down with a Rockford Fosgate DSR1 do I start at the DSR1 since that is where the RCA's begin in the chain? Or do I need to uninstall the DSR1 and use the factory speaker output leads to set the max volume level for the head unit first then move to the DSR1, reinstall it and set the max volume for the DSR1 in the chain and then finally the amps? I set my clipping fur my amps but neglected to accurately set clipping fur the factory head unit or the DSR1.
This is a great video. Question: Why doesn't pioneer (or any other companies) just make headunits that provides 0 distortion at any volume any source? Thus the only thing you'd have to meter are the gains on the amp.
Right, totally agree. The reason is they would cost way to much. Yes some people would be willing to pay for this feature but most would not. Explaining quality to most people is a lost art form. We are living in the "good enough" time.
A/V input is probably the lowest and weakest source out of the bunch while bluetooth is probably the loudest. I jumped right to 38 and adjusted my amp gains after while keeping the source adjustment at 0 (started with bluetooth). What I seen was when I later went to adjust my weakest source, even at the highest source adjuster/volume, it didnt seem like I was getting my most potential, like it could SAFELY go louder if the volume had more increases.. Might sound backwards but I feel like starting your adjustments with the weakest signal may be best, definitely dont want to start with the loudest source (unless your only goal is to not blow speakers). You stand a chance of the strongest source getting to a max volume prior to radio's clipping max (distortion by 30 instead of 39) but atleast all the sources have a chance to reach max potential.
Actually AUX is the worst lol. I see options for 'speaker level'. Will using these hurt the distortion? In what order should we be getting the most out of things? Sounds like we should MAX out HU volume first, then MAX out amp gains (until clipping), then Source level adjustment? If I didnt want to adjust gains on amp due to location or whatever, how bad will it be to use the speaker level to make speakers louder? SLA seems to be specific to source so sounds like it should be the LAST adjustment used...
I have seen examples of people updating firmware to gain extra features but is it possible to add a max volume setting via firmware? So that people can't accidentally turn your headunit up into clipping. Also do you have a record of head units that do not distort over rca? And the max voltage of each.
so how do we know if our phones are not clipping when sending the test tones through our phone ? and how do you use this tool if you have a pioneer unit with no cd drive?
I know with my o scope that a cell phone has its own volume level where clipping is present. I believe my galaxy s10 (usb audio) clips at about 115 out of 140 on the volume adjustment scale. Just an fyi
@Five Star Car Stereo. I have a HPS140i oscilloscope and I also have a voltmeter. Would it be easier for me to use the oscilloscope to measure the max volume output on my Pioneer SPHDA120 and move onto setting the gains on both my amps? Or can I just do the old fashioned way of OHMS law and using the voltmeter at the amplifier. I'm sure these were reliable ways of doing it before the SMD DD1 came out? Also setting the crossovers, if I don't have the tools for setting the crossovers, is there a formula used so that the dials on the amp match with the crossover point you are setting?
Hello guys at 5* car audio. Great video as usual, but I have a question. I have a pioneer ave-x2800bs and when using the pre-out from deck to DD-1 I get distortion at volume 12 and it does not trigger the 40hz or 1k signal light. If I go to the -dB tracks it will increase the max volume by 1 each -dB level that I change too. The only track that seems to work is the -15db track which I believe is track 8 and it’s signal light comes on around volume 32 and the distort light comes on at volume 39 of 40. My head unit has 3 sets of 4v preouts so I’m confused why it doesn’t seem to be functioning properly. Oh and my eq is flat and crossovers are off on deck. Any idea what may be wrong, or is this normal? Thanks in advance.
I know it may blink once without signal but u keep turning volume up .. before amp its 38/40 after gain setting amp i was around 23/40 werid for me too with this so I keep it 22 for now but do want to get a 3 channel crossover to help
Wouldn't it be better to use a db meter and the sla to adjust the sources so they are all at the same volume? Then go back and check each source to find out where the clipping occurs on each one. It seems like your end result would be a better balance when switching between sources but still know the maximum volume before clipping.
If i am running an amplifier is there still a max volume for the head unit? Im asking because my door speakers are clipping bad and my amp doesnt seem to be clipping. So it appears to be in the head unit. I have the Pioneer 10.1” and I cant hardly get over 16 on the volume. I think max volume is 38 so Im stressing. Hopefully I dont have to buy a new head unit. This one was $1600
Nice video . So I’m guessing everything else was set to flat . Also when setting gain on a amp is a good idea to use the source level adjuster or set it to 0 ?
Hey, love the videos!!! I was wondering, I have a Pioneer DEH-80PRS and a 4-ch amp hooked up and would like to run some tweets off of the reciever as well. How can I compensate for the distortion/volume difference between the reciever amp's max clean level and the 4-ch max clean level? Can I check the reciever amp's max clean power with my DD1 and then adjust my outboard amp's gains until they're adjusted to match the reciever's volume? I want them to both be getting their full potential
Magic6GMC yes that is exactly what you would do. So for example if the radio power makes out at 24 that would be your new max. Personally I would not use the deck power. I would connect them to the amp.
I have the JL Slash 4-ch hooked up to 2 sets of Alpine SPR-50C component sets... I was just looking for a lil boost in the upper frequencies to cut through the bass of the sub. Not expecting much, but a lil more sizzle for the hi-hats would make me happy!!!
Hello I have a quick question I have a double din pioneer stereo when I connect to play I have a problem with the volume when I put volume up it come down by it self ???? Do you guys now anything about that ..
Great Video! Would the DVD source level be equivalent to CD as cleanest sound and with regards to the pandora app on the AVH are you able to change source level also?
so if you are using a mono amp and a 4 chan amp, you would first set the decks sources like u have in the video and then , with use of dd1, set the gains on both amps? OR should all sources be kept flat at 0 and then only the dd1 should be used to set the gains on the 2 amps?
Yes radio first then amps. We just wanted to show the difference between the sources to maximize your output. If you only set for CD you may be missing out.
Hi I managed to browed one for a day now I can do bluetooth & usb not aux cause my phone doesn't have that jack anymore so I want to ask for the USB to get to tone I have to get it onto a USB to test is that how it works because I have it on my note 10 plus?p.s what about the subwoofer level where to set that at please reply greatly appreciated
So after setting max clipping volume and SLA settings...do you adjust the amp gains (mono sub amp and mids and highs amp) using only the cd or do you have to adjust gains using all the sources or will the cd cover the gains in general to prevent clipping???
jms 75 tes after doing this then u can adjust ur amp gain/s for the proper output voltage. Once uve done this sthep u know ur amps will b receive a clean undistorted signal no matter ur source.
What I'm still confused about is When I hook up my phone to my AVHX my phone volume controls the Loudness too so if I have everything set just right then I want to play a song through my Phone it might be blasted So I have to then adjust it through the phone Volume . Is there any other way to make the radio control the Volume only?
Hey Dean, out of mere curiosity what about Pandora and Spotify? Or do the levels for those 2 just fall under Bluetooth since they're both a BT connection?
Did you hook up the dd-1 to the RCA output from the head unit? And can you use the dd-1 to detect distortion from the head unit if you are using the head unit for the interior speakers? Or is the DD-1 only good for RCA inputs from head unit amp output RCA's?
I don't think there are any youtube videos using the DD-1 to test distortion via radio speaker output let alone showing how its done. They are all how to videos just to test the RCA signal outputs. which is fine if you are using an interior amp and a sub amp. But for the average Joe, we just use a decent head unit for our interior speakers and a amp for the sub. I am just curious at what max volume is on the pioneer (specifically 4200nex) before it clips via radio speakers (not rca outputs) and how you would go about testing that using the DD-1. I am also curious if that volume number is the same as the RCA numbers. Then you could just say whatever your RCA output volume number is for distortion, your regular radio speaker output are the same and visa versa. (hope that makes sense lol)
I had a question if I keep the source level in the middle does that mean I turn my apps up higher on the game and if I turn the service level up higher I don't have to turn the amps gain up as much is that how it works
hi question i have the 4200 nex but dont have an amp for the mids n highs. i just have an amp for the box. i have the speakers hooked up to the radio itself. how do i hook up the dd1 to test the head unit
angel gomez connect the red test lead to white and clip the black gator clip to the black ground. Check out this video it is a bit more in depth czcams.com/video/Fz7PVBStGqs/video.html
I asked the same thing. I thought you were sapos to put it on flat and they have it on powerful. Wonder if this effects the sub, or just the speaker outputs for the deck.
I'm using EAC to convert to .wav files, but I hope that will work. In any case it seems like a bad decision to put the test files on cd only. For the $190, a $2 flash drive would have been the right thing to do.
That worked, but I found that the files are also downloadable on the SMD website - www.wccaraudio.com/downloads It amazes me that these files are not by default distributed on flash drive instead of cd. It also is sad that the manual doesn't mention the downloadable files when it first talks about the cd. It should state downloads as an alternative. Many more head units, if not all have a usb drive, but many don't have a cd drive. Makes no sense.
Hey guys I’m trying to tune my system with the dd1+ and cc1 and I found the max clean output volume of my head unit and I’m trying to set the gains but I can’t handle the sound of the test tones. I have my subwoofers unplugged but I don’t know how to stop my midrange speakers( 2 6 1/2’s 2 4x10’s and 2 4x6’s so it’s realllllllly loud) from playing. Can anyone give my some input on what to do.
Five Star Car Stereo thanks for a quick reply! Iv wanted to get my hands on the smd dd 1 and cc 1 for some time now. Finally pulled the trigger and wanted a good app that's worth spending the $$ on.
Guys I need your help. I had a pioneer gm8601 which puts out 800watts certified @1ohm. I was pushing 2 8's with it at 1 ohm fine. I upgraded to a dual da6001 that puts out 1300watts certified but no matter what I do with the gain it barely has any output compared to my pioneer. I'm using RCA's from the back of my pioneer x65bt radio, ARE CERTAIN AMPS LESS SENSITIVE AND NEED MORE RCA VOLTAGE? Theres NO way I should have my gain almost maxed and still have barely any output?! I have to go on my radio and turn on "loudness" which is a total clip magnet! any idea what could be the reason my old weaker amp has much more output?
So got a jvc radio i put it in a 95 geo metro im running 4 pironeer speekers and i got an amp i ran the speekers off the amp and i have to almost max the radio out to get it to out put louder sound i got the gains set with o scope volt meter so i know the speekers are under powerd so i got a bigger amp and running all 4 speekers at there 50 watt rms rating it made no difference on sound output just hade more bass the deck olny puts out 2 volts on the pre outs on the back sub is same way but on my old deck it was loud on the bass but that deck olny hade 1 volt pre outs so idk maby someone can help
Just max the vol(40) for all of the sources and increase/decrease SLA accordingly. Theres no point in finding where the volume clips if you can just decrease SLA. Its an unessasary step.
James H they r setting source levels compared to the fm source. If u were to turn it to 40 then turn down the sla the output would b lower than fm. The point here is to have a unified volume on ALL sources.
Hello following happens , I have a ford f150 extended cab a JL amp, bass JL 12 inches, a pioneer amplier 4 channels, 4 speakers pioneer 6x8 all connected to a avh x4700 , it does not sound good
I too am wondering. I know you can do it with oscilloscope on speaker wires but I'm more interested in rca's. I just bought a cheap oscilloscope and multimeter $40 total. Seems like a more reasonable price than $150 to me....
Eazy Rida you will use it on the output of the amps and test all the way though. If you go to Steve Meade's ( He is the SMD part) channel he has a how to
No one ever shows the set up part in these videos, Hard to check for distortion if you don’t know how to properly connect the SMD.
so informative and clearly demonstrated, great job as always guys thank you!!!
Question, aren't we suppose to first make sure that the treble, bass and equalization is first set to flat? DSP settings off? Last question; if I'm not mistaken when you check the head unit with the SMD tracks wouldn't it be the first 2 tracks and not track 6 which is with overlap? Not picking just trying to understand the difference. Thanks for all the that you guys do for this industry. Keep it up!
great vid but you forgot to show where to connect the smd in the back of the head unit
Rca front right or left and or rear right or left
Got an idea...make a video showing the achievement of finding out max volumes of hu's with DD1...THEN, show the adjustments of eq'ing and adjusting the music. NO one does this and people ask the same friggin' question: "Do I have to listen to my music with flat settings and no adjustments?"
jms 75 is there no answer to this guy's amazing comment?
Im wondering the same thing
i was just going to say that my self ,
EMF said DD1 is a waste i have O scope
I have ask this many times on different videos posting and no one gives a reply to this question
It may be more accurate if you turn it off of Powerful mode (4:01) before measuring clipping.
I have a question on this. What is volume on the phone? because that can distort or clip too.
Great videos btw. I have learned a lot from them. I already have a DD1 and just purchased a Pioneer AVH-X4800BS and can't wait to install. I have been watching your videos regarding that headunit and like what I see.
I have the same head unit what volume does it Distort at ?
What level do you have the subwoofer control on the pioneer head units when testing
Cool. I have this exact same HU. So you guys just saved me the money and now I know 38 is the volume limit. I wouldn't buy jack that puts money into the hands of that dousche.
This video helped out a lot! Thanks
Ok, cool. Thanks for the video!
what was the settings for CD and USB i didnt see either of those on the test? awesome vid by the way ive always been curious about this ive got the 5800bhs in my Tahoe and love it thanks for the vids
Anthony O'Dell 38 is max for cd, USB can depend on the phone or drive. Some will max out others will be 38 has well.
So why not max out the. Volume setting (40) then reducing the source volume level until not clipping or distortion is detected. That way no one ever turns it up to far and destroys speakers 🔊
NvTwist yes that is a good way to do it also.
tell you what guys & gals i have played the bass guitar for 20000 years now and never blown a speaker ever
So at 38 volume the head unit is giving 4v signal
39,40 will raise the level and thus introduce clipping
I understand in this instructional video you use an aftermarket Pioneer. If I use a Toyota factory navigation head unit that is stepped down with a Rockford Fosgate DSR1 do I start at the DSR1 since that is where the RCA's begin in the chain? Or do I need to uninstall the DSR1 and use the factory speaker output leads to set the max volume level for the head unit first then move to the DSR1, reinstall it and set the max volume for the DSR1 in the chain and then finally the amps? I set my clipping fur my amps but neglected to accurately set clipping fur the factory head unit or the DSR1.
This is a great video. Question: Why doesn't pioneer (or any other companies) just make headunits that provides 0 distortion at any volume any source? Thus the only thing you'd have to meter are the gains on the amp.
Right, totally agree. The reason is they would cost way to much. Yes some people would be willing to pay for this feature but most would not. Explaining quality to most people is a lost art form. We are living in the "good enough" time.
Man oh man. Well, thankfully we have equipment like the DD1 to step up our game.
+blubag you have to see tomorrow's video!
Why settle for 10 when you can turn it up to 11
What about the EQ, does the EQ settings affect any of this? I noticed you have it on powerful and not flat. Or is that just for the speaker out puts?
Wondering the same thing
A/V input is probably the lowest and weakest source out of the bunch while bluetooth is probably the loudest. I jumped right to 38 and adjusted my amp gains after while keeping the source adjustment at 0 (started with bluetooth). What I seen was when I later went to adjust my weakest source, even at the highest source adjuster/volume, it didnt seem like I was getting my most potential, like it could SAFELY go louder if the volume had more increases.. Might sound backwards but I feel like starting your adjustments with the weakest signal may be best, definitely dont want to start with the loudest source (unless your only goal is to not blow speakers). You stand a chance of the strongest source getting to a max volume prior to radio's clipping max (distortion by 30 instead of 39) but atleast all the sources have a chance to reach max potential.
Actually AUX is the worst lol. I see options for 'speaker level'. Will using these hurt the distortion? In what order should we be getting the most out of things? Sounds like we should MAX out HU volume first, then MAX out amp gains (until clipping), then Source level adjustment? If I didnt want to adjust gains on amp due to location or whatever, how bad will it be to use the speaker level to make speakers louder? SLA seems to be specific to source so sounds like it should be the LAST adjustment used...
I set mine on my 1400 nex to 20 max volume, adjusted the gain up to match before distortion/ Clip, sounds awesome!
I have seen examples of people updating firmware to gain extra features but is it possible to add a max volume setting via firmware? So that people can't accidentally turn your headunit up into clipping.
Also do you have a record of head units that do not distort over rca? And the max voltage of each.
so how do we know if our phones are not clipping when sending the test tones through our phone ? and how do you use this tool if you have a pioneer unit with no cd drive?
how do you use the dd1 with a lc7i and stock HU?
Thank you very helpful.
Good info.. but a guy just need to set up his car ones.. smd is insane pricy..
Any other way to set up a system without SMD?
I know with my o scope that a cell phone has its own volume level where clipping is present. I believe my galaxy s10 (usb audio) clips at about 115 out of 140 on the volume adjustment scale. Just an fyi
Did you guys use subwoofer rca for 40hz or same f/r rca ?
@Five Star Car Stereo. I have a HPS140i oscilloscope and I also have a voltmeter. Would it be easier for me to use the oscilloscope to measure the max volume output on my Pioneer SPHDA120 and move onto setting the gains on both my amps? Or can I just do the old fashioned way of OHMS law and using the voltmeter at the amplifier. I'm sure these were reliable ways of doing it before the SMD DD1 came out? Also setting the crossovers, if I don't have the tools for setting the crossovers, is there a formula used so that the dials on the amp match with the crossover point you are setting?
Hello guys at 5* car audio. Great video as usual, but I have a question. I have a pioneer ave-x2800bs and when using the pre-out from deck to DD-1 I get distortion at volume 12 and it does not trigger the 40hz or 1k signal light. If I go to the -dB tracks it will increase the max volume by 1 each -dB level that I change too. The only track that seems to work is the -15db track which I believe is track 8 and it’s signal light comes on around volume 32 and the distort light comes on at volume 39 of 40. My head unit has 3 sets of 4v preouts so I’m confused why it doesn’t seem to be functioning properly. Oh and my eq is flat and crossovers are off on deck. Any idea what may be wrong, or is this normal? Thanks in advance.
I know it may blink once without signal but u keep turning volume up .. before amp its 38/40 after gain setting amp i was around 23/40 werid for me too with this so I keep it 22 for now but do want to get a 3 channel crossover to help
Was your phone volume level at max when checking the AUX and Bluetooth distortion?
Yes
Five Star Car Stereo so, the phone dont make distortion at max volume to Hu aux?!
Wouldn't it be better to use a db meter and the sla to adjust the sources so they are all at the same volume? Then go back and check each source to find out where the clipping occurs on each one.
It seems like your end result would be a better balance when switching between sources but still know the maximum volume before clipping.
I have a Audio Control 6xs,using the dd1,should I turn up or down the knobs on the 6xs when checking the output on the 6xs,I also picked up the CC1.
what ppl don't kno is the volume level on their phone.. something u didn't mention.. some turn the phone all the way up and adjust it on the head unit
Nice video I have a pionner dj-s51bt do you know the point volume? Thanks
If i am running an amplifier is there still a max volume for the head unit? Im asking because my door speakers are clipping bad and my amp doesnt seem to be clipping. So it appears to be in the head unit. I have the Pioneer 10.1” and I cant hardly get over 16 on the volume. I think max volume is 38 so Im stressing. Hopefully I dont have to buy a new head unit. This one was $1600
I watching this video right now can u do this on the 8 prs
Nice video . So I’m guessing everything else was set to flat . Also when setting gain on a amp is a good idea to use the source level adjuster or set it to 0 ?
If u plan to use sla then use it when setting your gain but if ur not gana use it then leave it at 0 when setting gains
Hey, love the videos!!! I was wondering, I have a Pioneer DEH-80PRS and a 4-ch amp hooked up and would like to run some tweets off of the reciever as well. How can I compensate for the distortion/volume difference between the reciever amp's max clean level and the 4-ch max clean level? Can I check the reciever amp's max clean power with my DD1 and then adjust my outboard amp's gains until they're adjusted to match the reciever's volume? I want them to both be getting their full potential
Magic6GMC yes that is exactly what you would do. So for example if the radio power makes out at 24 that would be your new max. Personally I would not use the deck power. I would connect them to the amp.
I have the JL Slash 4-ch hooked up to 2 sets of Alpine SPR-50C component sets... I was just looking for a lil boost in the upper frequencies to cut through the bass of the sub. Not expecting much, but a lil more sizzle for the hi-hats would make me happy!!!
Magic6GMC yeah I would still run them off the amp. It should not be a problem for that amp.
Could I use these numbers on my pioneer head unit. Or should I invest in a dd-1
Hello I have a quick question I have a double din pioneer stereo when I connect to play I have a problem with the volume when I put volume up it come down by it self ???? Do you guys now anything about that ..
can you set these stereos to like the cars volume adjuster or do you have to use the one on the stereo.
Can the DD-1 plus be used with a equalizer and DSP connected?
Can use and oscilloscope to adjust source level controls or do you have to use the SMD dd1 only ?
Where do you connect the dd1?
Do jvc and kenwood head units have a Source Level Adjustment?
Pioneer amps usually clip at 45 or 50
Can this same thing be done without an o-scope? If so, how do you complete this task?
Great Video! Would the DVD source level be equivalent to CD as cleanest sound and with regards to the pandora app on the AVH are you able to change source level also?
The cd/ DVD just provides a base line point. Yes you can adjust for Pandora
Okay thank you!
The volume of my radio is too low at max. How can i increase the power volume? Tks to you
How do you get your phone to play the different hertz for the different source tests?
so if you are using a mono amp and a 4 chan amp, you would first set the decks sources like u have in the video and then , with use of dd1, set the gains on both amps? OR should all sources be kept flat at 0 and then only the dd1 should be used to set the gains on the 2 amps?
Yes radio first then amps. We just wanted to show the difference between the sources to maximize your output. If you only set for CD you may be missing out.
Instead of a dd1 and a CD can I use a hz generator app and an oscilloscope?
Hi I managed to browed one for a day now I can do bluetooth & usb not aux cause my phone doesn't have that jack anymore so I want to ask for the USB to get to tone I have to get it onto a USB to test is that how it works because I have it on my note 10 plus?p.s what about the subwoofer level where to set that at please reply greatly appreciated
So after setting max clipping volume and SLA settings...do you adjust the amp gains (mono sub amp and mids and highs amp) using only the cd or do you have to adjust gains using all the sources or will the cd cover the gains in general to prevent clipping???
jms 75 tes after doing this then u can adjust ur amp gain/s for the proper output voltage. Once uve done this sthep u know ur amps will b receive a clean undistorted signal no matter ur source.
How to set the remote bass knob using the smd dd1
mine turns off or cuts off at (Pioneer AVH-1440NEX) Volume between 27 and 29 depending on the music is playing. Will this video fix the problem?
What I'm still confused about is When I hook up my phone to my AVHX my phone volume controls the Loudness too so if I have everything set just right then I want to play a song through my Phone it might be blasted So I have to then adjust it through the phone Volume . Is there any other way to make the radio control the Volume only?
Hey there guys is there a way to detect clipping with a multimeter or oscilloscope?
Hey Dean, out of mere curiosity what about Pandora and Spotify? Or do the levels for those 2 just fall under Bluetooth since they're both a BT connection?
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hi.maybe you checked Pioneer SPH-DA120 clipping point????
How about the volume of the actual source or on the phone?
Can you do one for the Pioneer AVH-X4750DVD?
Is this for preamp out or internal amp
The distortion lights turns on before I even get a signal
how do u set ur gains using the dd 1 i'm using the avh-x4800bs prime r600.4d jl audio twk-88 dsp prime r1200.1d
Eazy Rida never used JL before, a dealer. You may want to ask Steve Meade
can a DSP CONNECT TO A TABLET
so which dsp do u use and how will u use the dd 1
What about the speaker and subwoofer +10 db? Or leave it at 0?
Did you hook up the dd-1 to the RCA output from the head unit?
And can you use the dd-1 to detect distortion from the head unit if you are using the head unit for the interior speakers? Or is the DD-1 only good for RCA inputs from head unit amp output RCA's?
We did connect it to the RCA output. You can use it for the deck power too, we just did not think to do that.
I don't think there are any youtube videos using the DD-1 to test distortion via radio speaker output let alone showing how its done. They are all how to videos just to test the RCA signal outputs. which is fine if you are using an interior amp and a sub amp. But for the average Joe, we just use a decent head unit for our interior speakers and a amp for the sub.
I am just curious at what max volume is on the pioneer (specifically 4200nex) before it clips via radio speakers (not rca outputs) and how you would go about testing that using the DD-1. I am also curious if that volume number is the same as the RCA numbers. Then you could just say whatever your RCA output volume number is for distortion, your regular radio speaker output are the same and visa versa.
(hope that makes sense lol)
+blubag it makes total sense. Well we will have to fix this no video for this information. Stay tuned we will be making one!
Aligator clip the dd1 probes and connect via aligator clips to speaker wires.
how do i set my bass knob on the pioneer gm-9601d using the smd dd 1
Hi, I have pioneer avhx4700bs. Im using a audison bit one processor, should I adjust the source level before or after when setting the processor?
I would do it before if you are using the DRC to control your volume
Great video! Would these source levels apply to a AVH-4200NEX?
Yes
+Five Star Car Stereo Thanks for the quick response!
Hey guys can you help please? I have 2005 Pontiac G6. Radio play normal on AM and CD but FM has very low volume. Why? How can I fix this?
Is it ok to add source level when using a DSP
I had a question if I keep the source level in the middle does that mean I turn my apps up higher on the game and if I turn the service level up higher I don't have to turn the amps gain up as much is that how it works
Thanks.
If we keep vol upto 30 thn cn we keep source level to full(4)?
I have the 3600 I was wondering if you have performed the same test and if the levels matched?
Kyle Kearns sorry no we never did that series radio.
What app are you using on your iPhone to display the frequencies?
It is audio tool by Performance Audio.
hi question i have the 4200 nex but dont have an amp for the mids n highs. i just have an amp for the box. i have the speakers hooked up to the radio itself. how do i hook up the dd1 to test the head unit
angel gomez connect the red test lead to white and clip the black gator clip to the black ground. Check out this video it is a bit more in depth
czcams.com/video/Fz7PVBStGqs/video.html
What app was that you used to play hz out of aux
What about the eq on the head unit?
Do we ever use it. Leave it flat all the time?
I asked the same thing. I thought you were sapos to put it on flat and they have it on powerful. Wonder if this effects the sub, or just the speaker outputs for the deck.
What if you don't have a cd drive? I copied track files over to flash drive and they're not recognized.
I'm using EAC to convert to .wav files, but I hope that will work. In any case it seems like a bad decision to put the test files on cd only. For the $190, a $2 flash drive would have been the right thing to do.
That worked, but I found that the files are also downloadable on the SMD website - www.wccaraudio.com/downloads It amazes me that these files are not by default distributed on flash drive instead of cd. It also is sad that the manual doesn't mention the downloadable files when it first talks about the cd. It should state downloads as an alternative. Many more head units, if not all have a usb drive, but many don't have a cd drive. Makes no sense.
Can you guys test a MVH-1400NEX for me? Need to get an idea of where my volume should be since I don't have a DD1 or O-scope...
I have dd1 and avh-1500nex same dont go past 38
I can't find this SMD dd1 anywhere everywhere I go to it's out it's not available they don't have any in stock what's going on here
Mr Shadow been searching for one too. Supposedly it’s out early next month the ETA date keeps getting pushed back so..
They just had some available at wccaraudio.com. Not sure if they have any left.
Just checked. Sold out already. Follow them on instagram and they post when they get in stock.
Can you check the HU for distortion without an amplifier? With the dd-1?
Jesus Zuniga yes
That is what they are doing in this vid.
Hey guys I’m trying to tune my system with the dd1+ and cc1 and I found the max clean output volume of my head unit and I’m trying to set the gains but I can’t handle the sound of the test tones. I have my subwoofers unplugged but I don’t know how to stop my midrange speakers( 2 6 1/2’s 2 4x10’s and 2 4x6’s so it’s realllllllly loud) from playing. Can anyone give my some input on what to do.
What is the app you are using on the iPhone to play your frequencies?
Stephen Wells we like to use Audio Signal Generator Pro or Tone Generator Pro
Five Star Car Stereo thanks for a quick reply! Iv wanted to get my hands on the smd dd 1 and cc 1 for some time now. Finally pulled the trigger and wanted a good app that's worth spending the $$ on.
Stephen Wells very cool tools
Wats a gd radio 2 get for my dodge grandcaravan it's a 04
r u using the disk that comes with it then to those different sources how r u really doing it
We have a tone generator app on our iPhone it is called Audio Tool
Guys I need your help. I had a pioneer gm8601 which puts out 800watts certified @1ohm. I was pushing 2 8's with it at 1 ohm fine. I upgraded to a dual da6001 that puts out 1300watts certified but no matter what I do with the gain it barely has any output compared to my pioneer. I'm using RCA's from the back of my pioneer x65bt radio, ARE CERTAIN AMPS LESS SENSITIVE AND NEED MORE RCA VOLTAGE? Theres NO way I should have my gain almost maxed and still have barely any output?! I have to go on my radio and turn on "loudness" which is a total clip magnet! any idea what could be the reason my old weaker amp has much more output?
Because dual makes garbage amps. Chances are that dual amp had false advertising. Stick with the pioneer buddy.
i dont the video u was talking about using somthing call fero for your wire in ur install i cant find that video video please help me
Eazy Rida is this the video?
czcams.com/video/EH2qh4J8sps/video.html
So got a jvc radio i put it in a 95 geo metro im running 4 pironeer speekers and i got an amp i ran the speekers off the amp and i have to almost max the radio out to get it to out put louder sound i got the gains set with o scope volt meter so i know the speekers are under powerd so i got a bigger amp and running all 4 speekers at there 50 watt rms rating it made no difference on sound output just hade more bass the deck olny puts out 2 volts on the pre outs on the back sub is same way but on my old deck it was loud on the bass but that deck olny hade 1 volt pre outs so idk maby someone can help
What level set for cd?
Where do you get the test tones on the phone
+TAGZ we use a tone App called audio tool
Just max the vol(40) for all of the sources and increase/decrease SLA accordingly.
Theres no point in finding where the volume clips if you can just decrease SLA.
Its an unessasary step.
yesp, make sla in 0 and go up the volume, it will sound max and clear without distortion, sorry my english is bad
James H they r setting source levels compared to the fm source. If u were to turn it to 40 then turn down the sla the output would b lower than fm. The point here is to have a unified volume on ALL sources.
WHICH DSP DO U USE AND WILL IT WORK WITH THE DD 1
Eazy Rida AudioControl and out of the amp and radio only
so the amps r notplug into the dsp set the deck first then set the amps and then plug the amps into the dsp
Did you guys happen to test the SD card source level?
No because the regular AVH do not have an SD card slot. We will have to do one for a quick Q and A video so stay tuned.
+Five Star Car Stereo OK, thank you.
Hello following happens , I have a ford f150 extended cab a JL amp, bass JL 12 inches, a pioneer amplier 4 channels, 4 speakers pioneer 6x8 all connected to a avh x4700 , it does not sound good
Well that is no good. What is the systems major down fall?
+Five Star Car Stereo the problem is not sound good considering what you spend on cheap compared audio buy my friend in a flea market
+MrJose2602 band name does not equal quality
How do u find max volume without a Dd-1
I too am wondering. I know you can do it with oscilloscope on speaker wires but I'm more interested in rca's. I just bought a cheap oscilloscope and multimeter $40 total. Seems like a more reasonable price than $150 to me....
u say u use the audiocontrol so how will i use the dd 1 my deck is pioneer avh-x4800bs rockford fostgate prime r600.4d and r1200.1d to set my gains
Eazy Rida you will use it on the output of the amps and test all the way though. If you go to Steve Meade's ( He is the SMD part) channel he has a how to
which dsp du u use and did u use the dd 1 to set gains
so u saying plug both amps to the deck and set gains like that then once done plug amps into dsp will this be the same for the audiocontrol dm-608
Anyone know how to do this without buying a $250 unit?
I noticed the radio was set at powerful on EQ.. smh
Most pioneer distort at 38