Best review on the ole CZcams, lots of detailed shots and perfect instructions even for the outer fly first...! Thanks so much, keep it up and take care 🤗
Thanks mate. I do actually think its awesome though : ) Seriously, so far its been great, roomy and kept me safe. heading into the Breacon's again next month so that'll be another test for it.
I watched so many videos by the time I got to your I was just seeking postive reinforcement to justify pulling the trigger, so glossed over your various warnings. I got the tent, and after my trips with it, I came back and re-reviewed a couple of videos - and I have to say, your review most accurately matches what I found.
Excellent, glad to hear it. And thanks for coming back to say that. It's a good tent. But not perfect. But it's still probably my favourite tent to sleep in. Dan
I've pitched this tent for the first time just yesterday just to have a try but I still went on CZcams to see if I could find some extra tips on the matter, so I've stumbled upon your video and I have to thank you for showing me how to pitch the rainfly first. Cheers!
Great content really helpful, also thanks for putting me onto Outdoor Gear Essentials, very helpful and managed to sort myself out with everything I need, top stuff!!
Good job! Best review I've seen so far. It's the first time I've seen a tent completely assembled, with all the pegs and guy lines in place. The demonstration of the different ways of assembly was appreciated. Conclusions and judgment based on lived experience and full of common sense. Really good!
Fascinating. Great review, nicely organised and direct to the key bits of information. I'm interested in another tent and have seen from our adventures that your Cloud Up 2 is a good tent. Cheers, Warren :)
thank you sir. I wasnt looking for about this tent. listened for a while and you kept me listening. your pronountiation, smooth tone, details and adding your experinces made this video so powerful.
Great review. Covered everything, with good points. Very tempted as a size upgrade to my alpkit soloist which is not quite big enough to get all my bike panniers and items in. Thanks
Great review, thank you! I watched this before buying mine a while back. Another con I’ve found with it is how it slacks off over night. I find the porch section sags in and flaps about. I’ve put some bungee cord through the peg outs on the door and side to keep it tight through the night. Mine doesn’t have the twisty clips for the inner either, I was looking forward to that when I ordered it 😆
Thanks for that Dan. Good honest review there. So good infact that you've helped me make my mind up not to get one! It reall is a side opening one I'm after and hearing your comments has helped reinforce that for me. Other than that thouh, it does seem really good. The fact that you can do an out pitch first is a big bonus. I'f I'm honest, I am still tempted because of all the positives you mention, and the price of course. Thanks for the help! All the best. Paul
@@CampLifeBushcraft Thanks mate - got 10 nights in it in the middle of nowhere in Canada coming, do hoping it'll hold up because there's no resupply!!!
I have one and have added a puece of cord with loops tied to allow me to put up the poles without the mat or inner. This allows me to find a good spot and check theres nothing poking up underneath, which is harder to do with the mat. I then add the mat, then the inner and outer (which i clip to the mat rather than the inner). This means I can remove the inner first, if its wet in the morning.
I’m in the market for a tent to take along while cycling and this model is one of my candidates so I appreciate your two pitching demos and the rest of the video. Thanks.
Dan👌 Nice review brother, thanks. Good complete set up both ways, shows the versatility, and pros/cons as well. Looks like a decent one person 3 season tent although a bit small for my 6'5" frame. The one pole issue would be my main concern at this point. There's always trade-offs with most every thing, outdoor gear is not immune. Great video, well done. Take care, good health. See you next time... Enjoy!
yes, the single pole worries me too, hence I carry the DIY pole repair kit. but you have to have trust in your gear, which takes time. I had the Banshee for a few years and learned to trust it in bad weather. I'm still not fully there yet with this one but its getting closer. I'm heading up into the hills in Wales next month again so that will be another test. pretty much guarantee crap weather this time of year : )
Thanks for a great review and for including some comparison with Banshee 200. Had Banshee 200 then after i completely used it, got Banshee 200 Pro. Used that one too :) Now considering this one and was great to hear about its pros and cons
Thorough review, even if I wont be getting one there is no harm in seeing what the Jones' are sporting. Especially when I just bought a new back-up tent for wild-camping.
Public service video mate 🙃 I wanted a different tent originally but they were out of stock, I got this as a ‘yeah that’ll do for now’ tent but I really like it. Wanted to wait a year before recording anything but my opinion hasn’t really changed since I first pitched it. Although I’ve found out they do an ultra light version .. so I may have a goosey at that for summer stuff .. ATB Tent addict.
It sure was. You can always rely on Dan to give a good old honest to goodness opinion on the gear he gets and uses. Too many want to make it glossy cos of sponsorship. Keep these coming mate lots of us learn from them. Bushyboy Oz.
I've got the Cloudup-1 which I really like, it's barely smaller (different pole with a single Y and narrower at the end away from the door). Really good tents for the money though and the prices are going up, I've seen a lot of reviews recommending Naturehike as one of the best tent manufacturers at their price point around.
@@CampLifeBushcraft Not viewer anymore. Based on your review, I purchased it and did full autonomous week at Algerian Sahara. Plus few separate days in tent at areas without hotel. The tent is good. I only had issues closing its external shell during wind gusts and it takes some time to set it up compared to other models I used before in Namib desert. But those were canvas type and much larger. Thank you!
Easy running honest review without moneyness. Plus real life pitching which is unique idea. Because all above.. Subscribed strait away. Thanks for sharing your experience. Greeting!
Excellent tent and excellent review. The only things I'd add to this tent would be a 2 way zip at the front entrance and less mesh on the door part.. That can let a breeze through but.. Other than those small gripes it's excellent. tried and tested!
Thanks David. if I was nit picking I'd also like the porch to be a tiny bit bigger. but having used a Banshee for a number of years on walking trips this one is like a palace in comparison.
Well, you've just helped sell another one. I'm heading out on a bike packing trip and think this will be perfect. Do you have any videos on stove set ups? Great channel
Nice review mate , it really is a cracking tent , for one , without the mat it’s 1.5 kg which is awesome for what you get , covered all the points , much appreciated for the link to my site in the description 🙏🙏🙏
It's a nice tent for the price. I had the pleasure of using it in torrential rain, held up fanatstically, especially with the wind. Oh the wind. I agree, the entrance is abit awkward to get in and out of, but other than that it a good tent. Do get a few extra pegs, for those really windy days.
You can also do outer first without replacing the clips. Just keep the clips of the outer attached to the footprint so that you can more easily remove the inner first if it is still wet in the morning.
G'day Dan, a really good review mate, well covered. Yep, with ya, 2 person generally = 1 person + gear. Like the design of those clips, I assume they've held up, otherwise you would have said so I'm sure. I do like designs that you can basically establish the structure and still pick up and move around, either simply for aspect or to just maneuver around the local flora, perhaps both.. Inner or outer set up first is nothing to be sneezed at either imo, sure you most probably needn't worry, but when you do need it........................ I do like the side openers too, even for 1, but hey, a very decent buy all things considered. Cheers Duke.
Thanks mate, I was trying to be balanced, inspire of the fact that I do really like the tent. so far the clips have held up fine.. only worry on the tent is that single pole. but I've heard from others that it can really bend in the wind and not snap. time will tell. I'll keep carrying my bit of hose pipe! I probably did Naturehike a disservice there, as reading something on this tent last night it said it is a 1 person tent that can fit 2 in an emergency. which makes a lot more sense. its probably sellers that just claim a 2 person tent. hope you're well mate. Dan
I was going to get one of them but ended up getting the vango hydra instead part of me still thinks that i should have gone with it because i like the set up. Happy with my hydra though might get the cloud 2 in the summer. Good review
Hi Dan,like the height of this tent.You can sit up,making it alot easier to change clothes. OH! You said my evil eye wood stove was cute lol! So I painted eyebrows on it lol!.......Stay healthy you and family 👪
I have this. The entrance is too small specially when your cooking at the porch but its easy to set it up. I camp in 50 mph with light rain and still standing and dry. I dont know in the storm or heavy rain with strong wind. You might get wet as the inner tent mesh is quite low.
Honest review dude 👍 I quite like it, but if upgrading to a lighter tent I'd probably opt for a side opener again. That's good for the money though. Laters xxx
Great review. I'd disagree slightly about the first two cons though. 3 Vs 4 season - 100% agree it's a 3 season rather than a 4 season - but that's not worse just different - this is more suited for better weather where you might get more issues with a 4 season tent. One man Vs 2 man - that's an industry thing rather than a issue for this thing- is it any worse than most "2man" tents.....
Thankyou for instantly answering the question of seam side up or down for the groundsheet. Its not mentioned anywhere in the instructions or other peoples videos. I didn't want to damage the glued seams or have them fail due to having them the incorrect orientation.
I have the updated version of Cloudup2 in 210t orange colored. But my comment has to do with outer pitch first. Because of how the door is positioned I feel that in a hard windy rain I would set the corners of the inner tent then throw the outer on, stake and guy the fly then go inside with a towel or microfiber cloth and dry as much as possible. Then connect the clips to the pole system. No matter how fast this is done water is going to get on the inner floor. Even with a rain jacket on it will be a battle to not bring water in by coming in and out. So in the end I would plan to have some sort of cloth to "dry" the inner floor beforehand to minimize the eventuality of wet floor. This is in a scenario where the pitch is done in an exposed area and a tarp first setup is not possible. My two cents or shillings worth
Hello, I just got one of these and it does seem a real faff to pitch compared to my more traditional Wild country Helm 1 with pole sleeves, inner and outer together. Do you think that the fly will rub on the clips that holds the inner to the poles seeing as it's only draped over the frame? Thanks
I have basically the same tent made by tnh. I think you got the + and -‘s pretty well spot on. They also market it as a 2 person tent, which it clearly is not. 1 person + gear, great. 1 person + gear + dog, snug but probably do-able. 2 people + gear? Heck no. But it is a great little tent, I have a degenerative disease in my spine, I am very sensitive to weight. Also there’s setup, I don’t bend so well so a quick and easy setup matters. Family size tent with many poles? Forget it I’d be on the ground crying long before I got it setup (literally). But this I can get setup without too much trouble. A very good ground pad is also essential for me, I would never be able to sleep on the ground without one.
last night I was reading something on Naturehike and they actually bill this as a 1 person tent that can sleep 2 in an emergency. which actually makes a lot more sense. But I guess the nature of trying to sell tents, like an estate agent trying to sell a house the sellers claim a bit more than the reality. It's still a great tent though! I'm sorry that you suffer with your back. my Father also has had a lifetime of back issues and I know it's a hard thing to live with. Good that you don't let it stop you doing what you love. What pad do you use?
@@CampLifeBushcraft well, 1st thing to understand is I don’t hike lol I would love to hit the woods and just go for a couple weeks but I can’t. My back would lock up and I’d have to be rescued, so when I do go it’s car camping at prepared camp grounds. I use an inflatable tnh pad on top of a shooting pad. The shooting pad is quite thick and adds a lot of r-value. I have no idea how much of course because they just aren’t rated for that but it really helps. If I were hiking I wouldn’t take that though because it’s not light. I’d love to give hammocks a try, but here in Iowa it’s Illegal to tie any kind of cordage or strap around a tree. Can make experimenting with tarp setups a bit difficult as well! Such a silly law, I have nice thick tree straps that would not hurt the tree but doesn’t matter, if I set anything like that up a dnr officer will tell me to take it down.
Nicely filmed video mate. I’m not a fan of this tent, the front opening part,the small vestibule and the blade shape, not for me. Do like the ease of the setup tho and the compactness of it. Thank you for making this 🏕🙏🏼
yeah I remember you saying you didn't like it.. you didn't like the small entrance ; ) I've been really happy with it up to now, for the money its been good. and after being in a Banshee for a while its like a palace!
Nice review thanks 🙏🏼 I got a question. Do you clip in the inner tent with the outer tent ? Because the clips are there but I got the feeling that then it’s to stiff inside the tent.
Would you feel a wee bit more comfortable about it being called "4 seasons" with a snowskirt? I just came across it here (in South Africa) with a snowskirt option - about 10 quid more for that option.
Hi Dan how are you? Good review. When looking for a tent I always skipped over inner 1st. The thinking was if your on the side of a hill windy isn't it more of a pain in the .. to put up? Good of them to send a ground sheet. Again that was a pain you find a tent then you have to find the right sheet. After everything I thought about making a tarp tent instead. Not that I've had chance to try camping yet hoping this year me and the dog will be down south. With any look we might bump into you. Do you give autographs?
I like that this one gives both options. I used to have an inner pitch first tent years ago and had to pitch in heavy rain.. the inner got very wet which wasn’t nice. I only give autographs if I have a pen : )
Nice look there Dan . I rarely use a tent but if you're off to them thar hills a tent probably best . I'm hoping to head somewhere like that once or twice this year hopefully and that tent looks a good option . I have the one tigris tangram and the phoxx 2 already so not sure if either of those will be sufficient . Might test them nearer home first . Have you tapped and bivvied up there ? Seems an option but sideways wind and rain might be a problem there . Anyway I'll shut up now 😂 . Nice video with some food for thought . Take care 🏕👍
I've Bivvied on the coast and Tarped and Bivvied in the Surrey hills, but the Brecon mountains or Dartmoor the weather can change pretty rapid at any time, and the wind can really pick up, so you have to be a bit selective about where you'd set up. and take care to look after yourself. having said that my buddy Warren has just Bivvied up mountains many times... but he is a bit odd : ) hope you're well. Dan
@@CampLifeBushcraft . All good thanks bud . Yeah ideally would like to use kit I already have but understand in some places the conditions can change fairly quick . Gonna have a play about and test some bits 😂 . Hope you good to fella 👍
Hi, interesting review, I'm considering a Cloud Up to use kayak touring, seems like free standing would be beneficial given the likely camp locations, I was mainly thinking of the Cloud-Up 1 as it requires a smaller pitch but do like the extra poles at the rear of the Cloud-Up 2. If you have time I've got a couple of questions and would value your thoughts. Regarding pitching fly 1st, it seems like it would be a bit tricky if the flysheet needed to be pegged and guyed before attaching the inner (I could be wrong) Any reason why you couldn't add shockcord loops to the corners of the inner and simply loop them over the corner tent pegs rather than needing to unclip the fly/footprint and pull the pole out of the grommet on the footprint? One other quick question, the flysheet on both Cloud-Up 1 and 2 sits quite high, great for ventilation but have you found it to be an issue in wet and/or windy weather? I'm wondering if I should consider the Cloud-Up 2 with the snow skirt/valance, I know it adds a bit extra weight (and bulk) but perhaps not too much of an issue for kayak touring as I can off-set the weight by cutting back on other items if required. Cheers :-)
Does anyone have experience with setting up this tent on a slight slope? Doesnt the tent still get wet when water flows down because you do not have a waterproof part with a bit of height(only groundsheet).
I've had one of these for the last 3 years. It's a copy of a Big Agnes tent. However I don't have £400 to lash out on a relatively flimsy bit of kit so this fits the bill for me. It's not as light as something more expensive but there is a limit to performance and durability vs weight. I've seen a video where 2 guys go on Dartmoor with a Cloud Up and an expensive MSR tent in a storm. The MSR snapped at least one pole and the Naturehike survived intact.
@@matthughes4524 surprisingly it’s the back woods bungalow.. I’ve really taken to it over this winter. When I first got it I thought it was crap, but it’s wormed it’s way into the top 3 somehow!
@@CampLifeBushcraft Thanks for the advice. I may be purchasing a new tent as we head into spring and have been really torn on what to go for. There seems to be a lot of hate for the tangram but it looks like a great tent as far as I can tell.
@@matthughes4524 no problem.. I think I’ve mentioned on video, I prefer it to the Lanshan 2 as it seems more stable, and built better. But all tents are different and designed for different things. A trekking pole tent is a good idea, I’m a fan. But if you’re going up a mountain where it’s really windy then a proper tent with poles might be a better bet. Horses for courses mate.
Best review on the ole CZcams, lots of detailed shots and perfect instructions even for the outer fly first...! Thanks so much, keep it up and take care 🤗
Thanks Kimi! Really appreciate that 😁👍
Lot better review than most channels taking a tent out one time and then saying it’s awesome.
Thanks mate. I do actually think its awesome though : )
Seriously, so far its been great, roomy and kept me safe. heading into the Breacon's again next month so that'll be another test for it.
Bought mine 7 years ago still going strong.
I watched so many videos by the time I got to your I was just seeking postive reinforcement to justify pulling the trigger, so glossed over your various warnings.
I got the tent, and after my trips with it, I came back and re-reviewed a couple of videos - and I have to say, your review most accurately matches what I found.
Excellent, glad to hear it. And thanks for coming back to say that.
It's a good tent. But not perfect. But it's still probably my favourite tent to sleep in.
Dan
I've pitched this tent for the first time just yesterday just to have a try but I still went on CZcams to see if I could find some extra tips on the matter, so I've stumbled upon your video and I have to thank you for showing me how to pitch the rainfly first. Cheers!
No problem, glad to help 👍
Woohoo, I’ve just bought this and can’t wait to try it! Thanks for your review.
No problem Jill 👍
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and in your own communication style.
No worries!
excellent review. really love the fact that you are simply stating what you have found. nice one. 10/10
Thanks Joe 😁👍
Outstanding review! Thanks a lot!!!! It was very helpful and informative.
Thank you 😊
Thanks for mentioning about the wind issue you had.
Great content really helpful, also thanks for putting me onto Outdoor Gear Essentials, very helpful and managed to sort myself out with everything I need, top stuff!!
Thanks Rob. 👍
Glad Colin was able to help. He's a good guy.
That was sooo helpful!! A very comprehensive helpful video. Thanks very much
My pleasure 👍
Good job! Best review I've seen so far. It's the first time I've seen a tent completely assembled, with all the pegs and guy lines in place. The demonstration of the different ways of assembly was appreciated. Conclusions and judgment based on lived experience and full of common sense. Really good!
Thanks Gunny 👍
Probably the best video on this tent you show everything about this tent and a lot of it if that makes sense highly recommend this video
Thanks Brendan. Appreciate that 👍👍
Many thanks for d' review. After watch, now i am confident to purchase it
Very helpful review, and especially the tutorials for pitching
Thanks 🙏
fantastic review thank you! everything I wanted to know
Excellent, glad it was helpful.
Dan
Just bought this and found your review really good,thanks
Thanks. 👍
Fascinating. Great review, nicely organised and direct to the key bits of information. I'm interested in another tent and have seen from our adventures that your Cloud Up 2 is a good tent. Cheers, Warren :)
Cheers mate, I tried to make a short video but somehow it got to 19 minutes.. I don't know how that happens!
Really good, no nonsense review. Well done!
Thanks Tim 👍
thank you sir. I wasnt looking for about this tent. listened for a while and you kept me listening. your pronountiation, smooth tone, details and adding your experinces made this video so powerful.
Thank you 😊
Best review, no nonsense, just plain facts! I wish all reviewers to learn from you ... 🙂
Thanks!
If you feel like subbing I'd be grateful.
Atb
Dan
Great review. Covered everything, with good points. Very tempted as a size upgrade to my alpkit soloist which is not quite big enough to get all my bike panniers and items in. Thanks
Thanks Andie, appreciate the comment 👍👍
Very detailed review Dan Happy camping hope u and family r well
Thanks Nigel .. all good here mate 👍
Great review, thank you! I watched this before buying mine a while back. Another con I’ve found with it is how it slacks off over night. I find the porch section sags in and flaps about. I’ve put some bungee cord through the peg outs on the door and side to keep it tight through the night. Mine doesn’t have the twisty clips for the inner either, I was looking forward to that when I ordered it 😆
Thanks for that Dan. Good honest review there. So good infact that you've helped me make my mind up not to get one! It reall is a side opening one I'm after and hearing your comments has helped reinforce that for me. Other than that thouh, it does seem really good. The fact that you can do an out pitch first is a big bonus. I'f I'm honest, I am still tempted because of all the positives you mention, and the price of course. Thanks for the help! All the best. Paul
Glad to be of service mate, no tent is perfect, I think it’s always a balance and prioritising what’s important to you.
I have the three-person version for campsite camping and its fab. Great video. x
Thanks Rachel 😁
Great review - thanks Dan. I've just bought two of these, hope they hold up!
Thanks Matt.
Happy camping mate 👍
@@CampLifeBushcraft Thanks mate - got 10 nights in it in the middle of nowhere in Canada coming, do hoping it'll hold up because there's no resupply!!!
Awesome review! Thanks a lot!
Thanks 🙏
I have one and have added a puece of cord with loops tied to allow me to put up the poles without the mat or inner. This allows me to find a good spot and check theres nothing poking up underneath, which is harder to do with the mat. I then add the mat, then the inner and outer (which i clip to the mat rather than the inner). This means I can remove the inner first, if its wet in the morning.
I’m in the market for a tent to take along while cycling and this model is one of my candidates so I appreciate your two pitching demos and the rest of the video. Thanks.
Thanks. It's still one of my favourite tents. Had it a few years now and no issues.
Im using this on my bike tours, strap it to the bars and get out there!
A very nice Tutorial, thanks Dan
Cheers Sam : )
Obviously a bonus in the UK to have outer fly first option... 🌧🌧🥶🌧🏴 in July
Just discovered your channel! Watched your review of the upgraded cloud up 2, looked on Amazon, now selling at an amazing £127.20!
Dan👌 Nice review brother, thanks. Good complete set up both ways, shows the versatility, and pros/cons as well. Looks like a decent one person 3 season tent although a bit small for my 6'5" frame. The one pole issue would be my main concern at this point. There's always trade-offs with most every thing, outdoor gear is not immune. Great video, well done. Take care, good health. See you next time... Enjoy!
yes, the single pole worries me too, hence I carry the DIY pole repair kit. but you have to have trust in your gear, which takes time. I had the Banshee for a few years and learned to trust it in bad weather. I'm still not fully there yet with this one but its getting closer.
I'm heading up into the hills in Wales next month again so that will be another test. pretty much guarantee crap weather this time of year : )
Very good review, I have subscribed, cheers mate.
Thanks Tanko. Appreciate that 👍
Dan
Exeptional review, thank you so much!
My pleasure. 🙏
Thanks for a great review and for including some comparison with Banshee 200. Had Banshee 200 then after i completely used it, got Banshee 200 Pro. Used that one too :) Now considering this one and was great to hear about its pros and cons
Thanks, glad it was helpful 👍
@@CampLifeBushcraft If I don't like it - consider it to be your fault :)
Thanks for a really good review.
You’re welcome 👍
My next tent, great review thanks 👍
Hope you get on with it. I've been really happy with mine.
Appreciate you watching.
Dan : )
Thorough review, even if I wont be getting one there is no harm in seeing what the Jones' are sporting. Especially when I just bought a new back-up tent for wild-camping.
Public service video mate 🙃
I wanted a different tent originally but they were out of stock, I got this as a ‘yeah that’ll do for now’ tent but I really like it. Wanted to wait a year before recording anything but my opinion hasn’t really changed since I first pitched it.
Although I’ve found out they do an ultra light version .. so I may have a goosey at that for summer stuff ..
ATB
Tent addict.
nice review. nothing fancy - just stating what you have found. much appreciated.
My pleasure bud 👍👍
The xtra guy outs r a REAL plus for a nylon tent. Plus makes it feel roomier inside 😋. And more stable in wind.
Good vid 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks mate.
A well presented review, thank you
Thanks Laurie 😊
It sure was. You can always rely on Dan to give a good old honest to goodness opinion on the gear he gets and uses. Too many want to make it glossy cos of sponsorship. Keep these coming mate lots of us learn from them. Bushyboy Oz.
Good video, I've had my eye on these tents. They seem like a good value. If I ever travel to the UK I may do some camping.
You should!
I've got the Cloudup-1 which I really like, it's barely smaller (different pole with a single Y and narrower at the end away from the door). Really good tents for the money though and the prices are going up, I've seen a lot of reviews recommending Naturehike as one of the best tent manufacturers at their price point around.
i agree great tents esp if pitched end first
Thank you! Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@CampLifeBushcraft Not viewer anymore. Based on your review, I purchased it and did full autonomous week at Algerian Sahara. Plus few separate days in tent at areas without hotel. The tent is good. I only had issues closing its external shell during wind gusts and it takes some time to set it up compared to other models I used before in Namib desert. But those were canvas type and much larger. Thank you!
Easy running honest review without moneyness.
Plus real life pitching which is unique idea.
Because all above.. Subscribed strait away.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Greeting!
That was a nice comment to get on a Sunday morning. Thanks mate. 👍
@@CampLifeBushcraft my pleasure.
Excellent tent and excellent review.
The only things I'd add to this tent would be a 2 way zip at the front entrance and less mesh on the door part.. That can let a breeze through but.. Other than those small gripes it's excellent. tried and tested!
Thanks David.
if I was nit picking I'd also like the porch to be a tiny bit bigger. but having used a Banshee for a number of years on walking trips this one is like a palace in comparison.
Excellent review. Good job and keep it up. :-)
Thanks mate 👍
Thanks for the review. Great finding this comaprison to the Banshee 200. Both tents are in somewhat the same pricerange.
My pleasure. I have a review of the banshee on my channel.
Check the tents playlist .
Very good review!
Thanks!
Well, you've just helped sell another one. I'm heading out on a bike packing trip and think this will be perfect. Do you have any videos on stove set ups? Great channel
I have this its a great tent high winds can blow the ends down but it just springs back to life after brilliant .
Good to know! I’m heading to Wales again next month, and it’s coming along..
Yes I live in snowdonia not long till longer days now .
@@chrisjakeman9059 nice spot! Lucky man.
Nice review mate , it really is a cracking tent , for one , without the mat it’s 1.5 kg which is awesome for what you get , covered all the points , much appreciated for the link to my site in the description 🙏🙏🙏
Cheers mate!
tried to be as balanced as I could be.. to be honest though I really like it as a tent. almost as good as it gets for a single person.
Brilliant review, you've made my mind up to buy this but the olive colour. I've found it online for £107, too good to miss!
That's a bargain. Mine is still going strong and still one of my favourite tents. 👍
Thanks for posting
My pleasure 👍
It's a nice tent for the price. I had the pleasure of using it in torrential rain, held up fanatstically, especially with the wind. Oh the wind. I agree, the entrance is abit awkward to get in and out of, but other than that it a good tent. Do get a few extra pegs, for those really windy days.
You can also do outer first without replacing the clips. Just keep the clips of the outer attached to the footprint so that you can more easily remove the inner first if it is still wet in the morning.
Excellent review. Thanks. Just bought one, not arrived yet...
Hope you have many happy camps with it 👍
@@CampLifeBushcraft 👍
You did a really good job!
Thanks 👍
Superb video!
Thank you very much!
Nice 1 Buddy first time i seen both options i think ..still love my banshee 200 tho 🤣🤣👍👍👍🤞
Thanks Craig.
yeah I've a soft spot for my Banshee, great little tent 👍
Cool video. Keep us updated please.
G'day Dan, a really good review mate, well covered.
Yep, with ya, 2 person generally = 1 person + gear.
Like the design of those clips, I assume they've held up, otherwise you would have said so I'm sure.
I do like designs that you can basically establish the structure and still pick up and move around, either simply for aspect or to just maneuver around the local flora, perhaps both..
Inner or outer set up first is nothing to be sneezed at either imo, sure you most probably needn't worry, but when you do need it........................
I do like the side openers too, even for 1, but hey, a very decent buy all things considered.
Cheers Duke.
Thanks mate, I was trying to be balanced, inspire of the fact that I do really like the tent.
so far the clips have held up fine.. only worry on the tent is that single pole. but I've heard from others that it can really bend in the wind and not snap. time will tell. I'll keep carrying my bit of hose pipe!
I probably did Naturehike a disservice there, as reading something on this tent last night it said it is a 1 person tent that can fit 2 in an emergency. which makes a lot more sense. its probably sellers that just claim a 2 person tent.
hope you're well mate.
Dan
Well dune man that deserves like
Thanks mate 👍
Seen it in the flesh and is a nice unit for the dough 👍
I’m getting the ultra light 10d version soon. Weighs a kilo .. good for summer walks 😁😁😁
@@CampLifeBushcraft nice, just toying with a sturdy tent for our trip!
@@WildCamper your force 10 not up to it?
@@CampLifeBushcraft after hearing the wind last night here in Temby I have been looking at a hilliberg 💸
@@WildCamper wow, hope there’s room for me after my tent breaks 😇😂
I was going to get one of them but ended up getting the vango hydra instead part of me still thinks that i should have gone with it because i like the set up. Happy with my hydra though might get the cloud 2 in the summer. Good review
Cheers John 👍
great review thanks for sharing
My pleasure mate.
Have you sealed the seams on the nordisk Svalbard si tent or have you left the seams as they came out but have is it leaked
@John Clarke I have only ever water proofed it after a full season. It's never leaked, so far! 😁
Hi Dan,like the height of this tent.You can sit up,making it alot easier to change clothes. OH! You said my evil eye wood stove was cute lol! So I painted eyebrows on it lol!.......Stay healthy you and family 👪
Hahaha! I hope it was heat resistant paint lol 😂
That wood (get it) be the right thing to do....
Pack down size is an important part. Thanks
My pleasure 👍
Thanks. Brill Vid
Cheers Mike 👍
Would you recommend the 3f UL lanshan 2 tent as a good backpacking tent anyway keep up the amazing CZcams videos your channel is very cool
I have this. The entrance is too small specially when your cooking at the porch but its easy to set it up. I camp in 50 mph with light rain and still standing and dry. I dont know in the storm or heavy rain with strong wind. You might get wet as the inner tent mesh is quite low.
Excellent review, thanks. I'm wondering though if, when packed, it'll go smaller? I'm thinking about stuffing it in a saddle bag for bikepacking.
It can pack a lot smaller if you separate the rods and compress the shells
Boss review 👍 I don’t see the need for the extra buckle on the inner, only if you wasn’t going to use the ground sheet I suppose.
you can pitch it without the inner off the ground sheet. saves weight for non buggy areas.
Got this tent on the way. Thanks for the great review and erection variations.
😂 cheers 👍
Honest review dude 👍 I quite like it, but if upgrading to a lighter tent I'd probably opt for a side opener again. That's good for the money though. Laters xxx
Cheers, yeah a small entrance can be a squeeze to get in and out of. #ohmatron
@@CampLifeBushcraft they could have made a bigger door...inner door is even smaller
Great review. I'd disagree slightly about the first two cons though. 3 Vs 4 season - 100% agree it's a 3 season rather than a 4 season - but that's not worse just different - this is more suited for better weather where you might get more issues with a 4 season tent. One man Vs 2 man - that's an industry thing rather than a issue for this thing- is it any worse than most "2man" tents.....
Great review, had any experience with the nature hike 60L bag?
Thank you for showing how to use those damned two-way buckles 😅. Great video
Thank you 🙏
Thankyou for instantly answering the question of seam side up or down for the groundsheet. Its not mentioned anywhere in the instructions or other peoples videos. I didn't want to damage the glued seams or have them fail due to having them the incorrect orientation.
No worries 👍
Better than my vango 200, I think. Better vestibule, space, free standing, main frame is more sturdy.
I have the updated version of Cloudup2 in 210t orange colored. But my comment has to do with outer pitch first. Because of how the door is positioned I feel that in a hard windy rain I would set the corners of the inner tent then throw the outer on, stake and guy the fly then go inside with a towel or microfiber cloth and dry as much as possible. Then connect the clips to the pole system.
No matter how fast this is done water is going to get on the inner floor. Even with a rain jacket on it will be a battle to not bring water in by coming in and out. So in the end I would plan to have some sort of cloth to "dry" the inner floor beforehand to minimize the eventuality of wet floor. This is in a scenario where the pitch is done in an exposed area and a tarp first setup is not possible. My two cents or shillings worth
your 2 shillings are most welcome. its good people share their tips in the comments.
Hello, I just got one of these and it does seem a real faff to pitch compared to my more traditional Wild country Helm 1 with pole sleeves, inner and outer together.
Do you think that the fly will rub on the clips that holds the inner to the poles seeing as it's only draped over the frame? Thanks
Greate video
Thanks!
I have basically the same tent made by tnh. I think you got the + and -‘s pretty well spot on. They also market it as a 2 person tent, which it clearly is not. 1 person + gear, great. 1 person + gear + dog, snug but probably do-able. 2 people + gear? Heck no.
But it is a great little tent, I have a degenerative disease in my spine, I am very sensitive to weight. Also there’s setup, I don’t bend so well so a quick and easy setup matters. Family size tent with many poles? Forget it I’d be on the ground crying long before I got it setup (literally). But this I can get setup without too much trouble. A very good ground pad is also essential for me, I would never be able to sleep on the ground without one.
last night I was reading something on Naturehike and they actually bill this as a 1 person tent that can sleep 2 in an emergency. which actually makes a lot more sense. But I guess the nature of trying to sell tents, like an estate agent trying to sell a house the sellers claim a bit more than the reality.
It's still a great tent though!
I'm sorry that you suffer with your back. my Father also has had a lifetime of back issues and I know it's a hard thing to live with.
Good that you don't let it stop you doing what you love.
What pad do you use?
@@CampLifeBushcraft well, 1st thing to understand is I don’t hike lol I would love to hit the woods and just go for a couple weeks but I can’t. My back would lock up and I’d have to be rescued, so when I do go it’s car camping at prepared camp grounds.
I use an inflatable tnh pad on top of a shooting pad. The shooting pad is quite thick and adds a lot of r-value. I have no idea how much of course because they just aren’t rated for that but it really helps. If I were hiking I wouldn’t take that though because it’s not light.
I’d love to give hammocks a try, but here in Iowa it’s Illegal to tie any kind of cordage or strap around a tree. Can make experimenting with tarp setups a bit difficult as well! Such a silly law, I have nice thick tree straps that would not hurt the tree but doesn’t matter, if I set anything like that up a dnr officer will tell me to take it down.
Nicely filmed video mate. I’m not a fan of this tent, the front opening part,the small vestibule and the blade shape, not for me. Do like the ease of the setup tho and the compactness of it. Thank you for making this
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yeah I remember you saying you didn't like it.. you didn't like the small entrance ; )
I've been really happy with it up to now, for the money its been good. and after being in a Banshee for a while its like a palace!
very good review, Do you need to seam seal the Naturehike Cloud up 2?
thanks 🙏
I never sealed mine and it’s been fine.
@@CampLifeBushcraft Thanks 🙏
@@mohakhu no problem 👍
Nice review thanks 🙏🏼
I got a question. Do you clip in the inner tent with the outer tent ?
Because the clips are there but I got the feeling that then it’s to stiff inside the tent.
I generally don't use them.
Would you feel a wee bit more comfortable about it being called "4 seasons" with a snowskirt?
I just came across it here (in South Africa) with a snowskirt option - about 10 quid more for that option.
Hi Dan how are you? Good review. When looking for a tent I always skipped over inner 1st. The thinking was if your on the side of a hill windy isn't it more of a pain in the .. to put up? Good of them to send a ground sheet. Again that was a pain you find a tent then you have to find the right sheet. After everything I thought about making a tarp tent instead. Not that I've had chance to try camping yet hoping this year me and the dog will be down south. With any look we might bump into you. Do you give autographs?
I like that this one gives both options. I used to have an inner pitch first tent years ago and had to pitch in heavy rain.. the inner got very wet which wasn’t nice.
I only give autographs if I have a pen : )
Nice look there Dan . I rarely use a tent but if you're off to them thar hills a tent probably best . I'm hoping to head somewhere like that once or twice this year hopefully and that tent looks a good option . I have the one tigris tangram and the phoxx 2 already so not sure if either of those will be sufficient . Might test them nearer home first . Have you tapped and bivvied up there ? Seems an option but sideways wind and rain might be a problem there . Anyway I'll shut up now 😂 . Nice video with some food for thought . Take care 🏕👍
I've Bivvied on the coast and Tarped and Bivvied in the Surrey hills, but the Brecon mountains or Dartmoor the weather can change pretty rapid at any time, and the wind can really pick up, so you have to be a bit selective about where you'd set up. and take care to look after yourself.
having said that my buddy Warren has just Bivvied up mountains many times... but he is a bit odd : )
hope you're well.
Dan
@@CampLifeBushcraft . All good thanks bud . Yeah ideally would like to use kit I already have but understand in some places the conditions can change fairly quick . Gonna have a play about and test some bits 😂 . Hope you good to fella 👍
@@treksntarps all good mate, I’m happy it’s the weekend 😁😁
@@CampLifeBushcraft yes mate me to . 👌
The 4 season version has snow skirts, the others are 3 season.
Thanks for a great video. Do you notice any draft in-between the outer fly and the inner do to the ground space in-between them?
Thanks Robert.
Yes there is a draft but I’d call it airflow personally. It’s an airy tent.
@@CampLifeBushcraft , wouldn't that be freezing? Serious question. I'm not good with the cold, and I'm in Australia.
Hi, interesting review, I'm considering a Cloud Up to use kayak touring, seems like free standing would be beneficial given the likely camp locations, I was mainly thinking of the Cloud-Up 1 as it requires a smaller pitch but do like the extra poles at the rear of the Cloud-Up 2.
If you have time I've got a couple of questions and would value your thoughts.
Regarding pitching fly 1st, it seems like it would be a bit tricky if the flysheet needed to be pegged and guyed before attaching the inner (I could be wrong) Any reason why you couldn't add shockcord loops to the corners of the inner and simply loop them over the corner tent pegs rather than needing to unclip the fly/footprint and pull the pole out of the grommet on the footprint?
One other quick question, the flysheet on both Cloud-Up 1 and 2 sits quite high, great for ventilation but have you found it to be an issue in wet and/or windy weather? I'm wondering if I should consider the Cloud-Up 2 with the snow skirt/valance, I know it adds a bit extra weight (and bulk) but perhaps not too much of an issue for kayak touring as I can off-set the weight by cutting back on other items if required.
Cheers :-)
Best tent you'll ever buy for the cost.
Zero problems with water in every condition. You can stake the fly out, or down, to increase or decrease airflow as needed. Not a 4 season tent.
Does anyone have experience with setting up this tent on a slight slope? Doesnt the tent still get wet when water flows down because you do not have a waterproof part with a bit of height(only groundsheet).
I've had one of these for the last 3 years. It's a copy of a Big Agnes tent. However I don't have £400 to lash out on a relatively flimsy bit of kit so this fits the bill for me. It's not as light as something more expensive but there is a limit to performance and durability vs weight. I've seen a video where 2 guys go on Dartmoor with a Cloud Up and an expensive MSR tent in a storm. The MSR snapped at least one pole and the Naturehike survived intact.
Get this for £89 now, bargin!
Hi, great review. I wondered if you still have the OneTigris Tangram and if you still rate it as highly as you did a year ago?
Yes I still have it, and yes I still rate it. Haven’t used it for a while. But it’s in my top 3 tents I own.
@@CampLifeBushcraft I'm guessing the cloud up 2 is another? Which is the third?
@@matthughes4524 surprisingly it’s the back woods bungalow.. I’ve really taken to it over this winter. When I first got it I thought it was crap, but it’s wormed it’s way into the top 3 somehow!
@@CampLifeBushcraft Thanks for the advice. I may be purchasing a new tent as we head into spring and have been really torn on what to go for. There seems to be a lot of hate for the tangram but it looks like a great tent as far as I can tell.
@@matthughes4524 no problem.. I think I’ve mentioned on video, I prefer it to the Lanshan 2 as it seems more stable, and built better.
But all tents are different and designed for different things. A trekking pole tent is a good idea, I’m a fan. But if you’re going up a mountain where it’s really windy then a proper tent with poles might be a better bet. Horses for courses mate.