BBC 'A World Of Difference': Edmonds & Snagge 05 01 78
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2016
- This was a clever 1978 BBC TV programme called ‘a World of Difference’. It contrasted the old BBC announcer world of John Snagge with that of his ‘contemporary’ counterpart, the impressive Noel Edmonds, then coming to the end of his stint on Radio 1 breakfast. Enjoy some truly great old studio shots and a set of beautfully contrasting perspectives.
Here in 2016, almost as much time has elapsed between Noel and now as between Snagge and Edmonds. The carts, Gates turntables and haircuts tell that story. Mr Snagge, as it feels right to say, died in 1996. - Komedie
Noel Edmonds, Steve Wright the very very best of radio broadcasters
Noel Edmonds being portrayed as the young whippersnapper, tearing up the rule book and having a relaxed style behind the mic, ironically appears very formal and mannered by today's standard.
Declining moral standards, dear boy.
I know! He looks and acts like a conservative MP put next to anyone on radio one from the 90’s onwards!!!!
Tom Baker and Noel Edmonds, my Heroes!
What a great time to enter into the industry.
I miss the days hearing someone’s name and address being broadcast over the airwaves and thinking nothing of it. We didn’t worry about our details in the telephone directory either. WTFH?
On Tuesday Jan 18th 1977 when this was filmed, the BBC Radio 1 schedule was = 7am Radio 1 Breakfast Show with Noel Edmonds. 9am Tony Blackburn. 12pm Paul Burnett. 2pm Ed Stewart (Radio 2 simulcast). 4.30pm It's D.L.T. OK! 5.45pm until 6pm Newsbeat. Then as Radio 2 until 11pm. 11pm until Midnight John Peel.
I remember watching this documentary at the time of its initial broadcast and was always struck by how professional and adept Noel was. He made it look so easy but it was hard work. He had to be funny and witty, too.
Every single DJ who had talk, while playing records and tape jingles, on radio are amazing. Very difficult skill!
You got to give it to him, he was good back in the day. You can see why he was so popular
Very warm and welcoming. A comforting presence for the young British people, waking up at 7.00am on weekdays, especially back then when Britain had no breakfast television to speak of.
Noel was good too.
I found myself watching this with so much sadness, remembering Noel when he was riding high on the airwaves. I miss Noels style of presenting, miss his voice. Come back to the airwaves, come back to TV Noel, I miss you
I feel for Noel Edmonds, I don't think he has been in the right frame of mind recently because of the various problems ongoing. A good DJ, just not for me...Steve Wright for me.
@@tracyyy99 Did he swept up by the police along with all the other seventies pervs?
This was a bit before my time. I remember him on Radio 2 around 20 years ago, might have been covering for Johnny Walker, and he just wasn’t very entertaining.
Not an easy job, very professional. He appears to do everything, very interesting to watch.
In 1978, radio was much more complicated. You had record players, cassette tape machines, cartridges to use for jingles, and also the need to time the show, especially when needle time limits on records were still imposed. Now in 2023, everything is on the computer. Presenters don't have to set up records, they simply click play on their PC or laptop and a huge bank of songs can play instantly.
I remember this being broadcast. It was on BBC 2 I think.
It inspired me to become a DJ and I ended up on the radio myself.
Cool! What station?
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Absolutely brilliant… I miss those days of quality radio
I regularly listen to Noel's narration of "The Story of Pop Radio" available from various uploaders on Mixcloud (avoiding the clips & comments from the obvious pervs).
Both the original 1982 version & the update just around the turn of the Millennium, both interesting programmes in 6 parts.
Including part 1 about one of the original pirates, Radio Normandy from the 1920s and of course Luxy & the 60s pirates! 👍
Who remembers Flynn the milkman
" Morning, morning geezer, aint i bright".
Brilliant...
Brilliant footage, thanks
I too watched this go out live back in 1978 and recorded the audio on my Dad's Sony cassette deck - I still have that recording. Nice to see the video again. Noel's technical ability is second to none. Humbling for all radio presenters today, who just press NEXT. Thanks for posting David.
I don't think there are many DJs currently on air today who could handle that level of complexity in the studio, cueing up records, operating cart machines and broadcasting at the same time.
This behind the scenes was recorded on Tuesday 18th January 1977 and aired the following January 1978
At 8:33 you can see just how much radio has changed since 1977 - Now in 2024, the presenter has all of their playlist on their computer. One click and the song plays. They also have all their jingles on their computer too. Back then, cartridges of tapes was used. So in effect the radio presenter of 2024 has much less work to do than Noel and other presenters had in 1977.
I am sure you are of course so right there then too as well.
This shows the art of live radio that voice tracking is killing.
What Edmonds has forgotten about broadcasting is probably gold!
I presume he had to do a lot of looking the other way.
Great to see this historical piece relating to my childhood. Thank you so very much. ❤❤❤
Lovely to see this, so interesting. January 1978 - great time for music!
What a genuinely lovely guy. Always loved his shows and just watched him on I'm A Celebrity and I love him! He's too good to be true! 😊💜
What a great insight to what was the golden years of radio, The contrast between the 2 Radio Presenters was enlightening.
John Snagge was a lovely man, such a beautiful and perfect voice for broadcasting. When you heard John Snagge, you trusted what he was saying.
Its amazing to look back and see the disc jockeys putting some graft in (operating their equipment / lugging stuff around)
That box of records Noel has at the start of this documentary looks like everything you still find in a charity shop these days, even after vinyl’s come back!!!!
Sobering thought but the wartime world of John Snagge was as far removed in time from the Noel Edmonds Breakfast Show as that is from the Chris Evans Breakfast Show of today. However, other than the advent of e-mail making the listener - DJ communication more immediate and the records & cartridges being digitised, little has changed in the format of popular radio programmes over the last 4 decades. Nice film by the way.
I disagree - the format of radio has changed a lot from the 60s and 70s to now in one crucial way. Most stations now seem unable to decide if they are music stations or talk stations and freely mix long gabfests with music. A lot (no, not all) radio from the era portrayed here contained a lot more music with comparatively (by today's standards anyway) short links between tracks. The "posse" presentation formats (often like listening into someone else's office politics) favoured now, make this a lot worse.
It's little wonder that those seeking company and gossip now form the majority of the audience, while those mainly interested in music have switched over to music streaming or just listening to their own collections. That's a shame because Radio used to be one of the (many) shared experiences that bound the nation together.
Edmunds' breakfast show pulled 12 million daily listeners at a time when the UK population was 56 million - meaning that almost 22% of the population heard it. 6 million is now reckoned to be a good audience for a national breakfast show - but now that's only about 9% of the population. IMO part of this is because of how "talky" music radio is now - driving music-loving audiences away but also due to the profusion of media outlets which gives people multiple options not available back then.
Don't forget Noel was a huge fan of John Snagge, & John appeared every Sunday on Noel's Sunday morning Radio 1 show...👌
I had such a crush on Noel Edmound's back in the day. Good looking man.
A fascinating time capsule of a programme. Some of the clips of Noel Edmonds have been used in documentaries about Radio One since, it is nice too see them in the context of the original programme.
13:15 - In 1940 the BBC news bulletins on the Home Service would start with "This is the BBC Home Service. Here is the news read by John Snagge" for example.
And his hair amazing!
1500 meters long wave. Them were the days
always professional , noel.
He was good at his craft
thank you for this video. love it.
I always thought that Noel Edmonds was the best presenter on the Radio 1 breakfast show.
@Dark Light I still do.
This video is about the a huge gap between John Snagge with his suit and tie, his clockwork gramophone and formal announcements, versus the young Noel Edmonds. There is the same huge gap between the young Noel Edmonds with his queueing up records on three turntables setting up boxes of jingles on tape cartridge machines and today's radio stations with no records or CDs, just computer screens. Comments below suggest that those of us who remember radio in 1978 express the same reaction to today's radio as John Snagge did then.
A great upload there. Very informative. I think Jon Snagge went to Radio Stoke at some stage too
Noël was brought in to replace Kenny Everett and as a spoiler to compete with the start up of ILR in 1973.
Great choice of headphones. Super quality though rather heavy.
I'm guessing that they are KOSS PRO600AA rather than the lower impedance Pro4AA version aimed at the domestic market.
I bought my PRO4AAs in 1971. Price (UK) was £28.00; a considerable sum 52 years ago. They are still going strong with a valid 'lifetime' guarantee.
I love all the time checks 😂
In 1977 when this was filmed, records were still played using record players, and of course BBC Radio 1 relied on tapes of music to (avoiding needle time restrictions). Today on Radio 1, the host simply presses play on his computer screen and the song plays.
The BBC did still rely on a lot of recorded session material back then, but being any radio station's most important time slot, Radio One's Breakfast Show was never restricted by needle time.
@@markg6860 You are right about the Breakfast Show, as I remember Tony Blackburn saying that it used up a large chunk of the needle time restrictions. 6.5 hours roughly was the daily ration when Radio 1 launched in 1967 and close to 1 hour and 45 minutes of that ration was used on the breakfast show alone in 1967.
@@johnking5174 Putting Jimmy Young and Terry Wogan out on both Radio One and Two also helped. Plus, Jimmy was playing a few of his own songs, back then.
Yes but that only works when the tracks have been imported and meticulously checked. "Behind the scenes of the playout screen"! (I don't work at Radio 1, but that's generally how it goes). Bit like "DITs" in film-making.
Or on radio 2 or anywhere else really I guess too.
A Radio 1 DJ carrying a briefcase to work. Far out.
Flying the milk man , Magic Geezer 😁
Has this programme come from a slightly wobbly telecine conversion?....................I say that because every so often the bottom right hand corner of the picture moves a bit
So this is where the BBC pulled the footage of Noel brushing his beard against the mic from, every time there’s some documentary about radio 1 in the 70’s and 80’s on BBC four?!
11:11 - John talking here about the BBC Forces Programme which launched in 1940 and by June 1940 would start its day at 6.30am with a programme called "Reveille" with the Radio Times calling it "A cheerful selection of gramophone records"
Way to go Noel!
Methinks this should be dated Jan 1977 as all the music played was from late '76 and the copyright date at the end shows MCMLXXVII = 1977. Sorry to be a pedant. Stiil, a great programme - Mr Edmonds made it look so easy.
www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19770109/7501/
I reckon the broadcast date of the material featured is Tuesday 11th January 1977. Hence the 1977 (MCMLXXVII) production/recording date. However the programme itself was first broadcast on BBC2 nearly a year later in January 1978.
Yes, i was confused because it says it's from 5 Jan 78 but he mentions the date of 9 Jan. then when I heard the songs played - they're all from Jan 77 - interesting that it took just shy of a year to transmit this, I wonder why?
This behind the scenes was recorded on Tuesday 18th January 1977 and aired the following January 1978
@@johnking5174 All the more odd, as by the time this went out, Tony Blackburn had moved to afternoons, and Simon Bates had taken over the morning show.
Brilliant station radio 1 those days but 247 am was awfull in a lot of areas
The problem was that there was not much room for radio frequencies. Remember the whole of Europe had to make do with a limited amount of frequencies, and of course having Ireland's RTE radio services on their doorstep too didn't help. The 1978 frequency shake up was designed to make things better, and I don't know if it did, maybe you remember those changes in November 1978?
Great to see Tony Blackburn too.
You got the best comment on here! The banter with them two DJs, when Tony was just about to start his show, when Noel show just ended with them keys was priceless. Tony Blackburn was and still is a great DJ. Noel to is great. I am glad them two are really great friends! Did not like how John Peel treated Tony Blackburn, it was brutal bullying. despite Peel being a very good DJ.
Mystery: Why did the original BBC start its day's broadcasting and its evening newscast at quarter past the hour, rather than on the hour?
It was to do with the Shipping Forecast. The BBC had settled an arrangement that the first shipping forecast of the day would be at 10.30am on the dot, and since the first programme of the day was always The Daily Service, which only lasted 15 minutes, this is why it aired at 10.15am, as otherwise if they started at 10.00am, there would be 15 minutes of dead air before the shipping forecast aired.
The evening news was actually aired at 6pm, so this is a slight false memory from John Snagge here. Yes, it did air at 6.15pm in the early years and was known as "The First News". In 1932 it was moved to 6pm. The 6pm deadline was due to the newspapers, they wanted to ensure people bought an evening edition of their newspapers, and so BBC in agreement with the newspapers (who were more powerful than the BBC back then) decided to air their first news at 6.15pm, however by 1932 the newspaper giants agreed that the 6pm start would be fine. BBC wouldn't commence breakfast news bulletins until the start of the second world war on September 1st 1939 at 7.00am.
No doubt just an accident of editing but for a moment there I though Noel had played the same record twice. Boney M - Daddy Cool was playing in the segment that starts at 18.20 and is subsequently cued from the start at 20.45 Always was my favorite R1 "Jock".
Early radio had player pianos?? And they occasionally caught staff's ties in them? I had never heard of player pianos as a program source in radio, before. It makes sense, though but I had never heard of it!
Before the second world war, the music unions severely limited the amount of music on records which the BBC could play per day. So piano music was very much needed.
Just a little query: Are you sure it was Tuesday 5 January, and not Thursday? My eldest niece was born on Saturday 7 January, so that's how I remember the date! Thanks.
All that equipment and turntables and cueing up records etc that Noel and other presenters had in the 70s and 80s. Nowadays it's all computers and even the songs are played from computer screens. The presenters have it easier now on radio.
The playlist for every radio show today is all programmed into a computer, and you simply press play. This is why during the first main lockdown during the pandemic, so many radio shows could be broadcast from presenters homes, all they needed was their laptop, a PC, microphone and a fairly decent broadband speed.
@@johnking5174 Had the Covid pandemic struck in the 70s and 80s, radio would have been screwed basically. There's no way Noel Edmonds, Simon Bates or Steve Wright would have been able to do their shows from their own homes with the bulky equipment and turntables. They would have had to have the entire equipment from the studios sent to their homes in vans and then taken up the entire lounge with it😂😂😂. Thank god they've got computer screens now otherwise all radio stations would have been off air for the last year.
@@keithlivingstone5321 Remember there was a pandemic in 1968, Hong Kong Flu, which spread around the world. Not as fast as Covid, but still affected the world to be classed as a pandemic. However health protocols in that era would be very different. Simply try not to catch it was the norm. They felt if you washed hands, kept space and if you felt ill simply remain at home. Life went on as usual. Lockdowns would have not been used, as life back then was very different.
@@keithlivingstone5321 Radio would have remained on air, simply presenters would have come in, with a slightly reduced team, and carried on. In California, there was an outbreak of flu in the early 1980s, many celebrities and productions were affected, but life carried on. Johnny Carson, famous talk show host was off for a few days with flu, but Joan Rivers guest hosted whilst he recovered. Again, attitude was more harder. It is flu, it is around, get used to it.
@@keithlivingstone5321 Although Steve Wright has been doing his Radio 2 show from the main studios throughout the pandemic. Point taken, however.
Curious in RNE, National Radio of Spain no announcer does self-control. All announcers have a technician, even today.
You have to go to private radio stations to find announcers who do the technical sound control themselves.
I love old radio more, vinyl records and jingles in cartridge players.
"Self-op" usually created more spontaneous radio.
EMI 2001's on vinten HP419 peds.
I think the Beeb had hundreds of the bloody things!
Noel still looks yhe same today
Even as a child I suspected something was wrong with him. He's now living in New Zealand with his 'ideas' and 'theories' as few in Britain seem to put up with him any longer.
Fled to avoid paying his debts. He ripped off a lot of people. He is now a mix of 'New Age' medicine/Conspiracy theory nutcase'. In plain English mad as a hatter.
LOL Playing Don't Give Up On Us at 33 1/3. It did sound better! I'm sure since Starsky and Hutch was on BBC1 it helped the song in the UK just like in the US. If Noel only knew that it would be all automated and computerized in huge studios 20-30 years later!
I absolutely adore Noel Edmonds
Interesting
Was this the time when Radio 2 carried on through the night with no Radio 1 after midnight? I think Radio 1 and Radio 2 went their separate ways at 0700, which is why Noel starting his programme exactly on time is such a big deal
Hi Tom, 1979 was when BBC Radio 2 went 24 hours a day, on 27th January 1979. From Monday 29th January 1979, BBC Radio 1 increased its broadcasting hours, with its own dedicated schedule from 6.00am - Midnight, and only airing Radio 2 in the overnight hours. Hope this helps?
In 1977/78 BBC Radio 1 used to air its own schedule from 7am to 7pm and 10pm - Midnight, otherwise they had Radio 2 for the rest.
you have to look at Noel Edmonds his amazing he must be from the Pleaides the human extratresrtrial race who are looking to help humanity... shit I might get done for this but its true you have to take one look at him and he changes the energy around you to positive
You might just be right. He doesn't age. He's also become very awake in recent years to how the world really works. Snides would call him a conspiracy theorist but I'm happy to go with Pleadian
Noel isn't the right colour or sexuality to be on Radio 1 these days
Greg James = Radio 1 Breakfast host, a straight white male.
Absolutely TRUE!
So he'll be out soon then if not already! Huh
Snagge was a goon show but of jokes
Bland and Boring Crowed = BBC
The it would be BABC and not BBC
The British Bucket Company or the Broken Biscuit Company as Cuddly Ken might've said!
Noel Edmonds reminds me of David Brent, so cringy & corny.
John Snagge was brilliant, shows you how far we have declined into this fake, self absorbed, celebrity obsessed, tech future.
Just a little query: Are you sure it was Tuesday 5 January, and not Thursday? My eldest niece was born on Saturday 7 January, so that's how I remember the date! Thanks.
It was actually Tuesday 18th January. The newsreader @16:09 is referring to the Granville rail disaster.