You've Been Lied to About Mount Everest

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Komentáře • 2,5K

  • @PabloP169
    @PabloP169 Před rokem +1181

    I am 80, and I was always taught that Montains were measured as height above sea level. So I wasn't lied to.

    • @jaycelobb6628
      @jaycelobb6628 Před rokem +71

      Your not 80. People of that age don't use phones

    • @photelegy
      @photelegy Před rokem +169

      @@jaycelobb6628 Many people use CZcams on their computer. And I know multiple people over 80 using the computer.

    • @JW-bs7xp
      @JW-bs7xp Před rokem +10

      I am an alpha male

    • @oldplucker1
      @oldplucker1 Před rokem

      @@jaycelobb6628 No, people of that age invented and made what you now wrongly call phones! Your ‘Phone’ is not a phone at all but it is a Palmtop Spy Computer. Not related to mobile phones in any way other than the minor addition of a miniature mobile phone module. What you hold in your hand is a fully fledged computer with mic and cameras, spying on you.
      It is as powerful or more so than your laptop.
      Google says:
      The first Palmtop PC was the DIP Pocket PC (aka Atari Portfolio) in 1989.
      Later these were called 😢PDAs and were very much like the iPhone which came later. Probably called iPhone so it could be sold in Phone Shops to a wider customer base.
      So you are holding a Palmtop Computer not a ‘Phone’ or even a ‘Smart Phone’ those are different devices altogether.
      The clever computer technology you hold in your hand was invented, designed and built by very clever people who are now Old or Dead.
      But Old people now are very tech savvy because were were there creating it. However these computers are now used to Spy on the gullible ‘Ignorazzi’ generation who can’t tell a phone from a computer.
      Incidentally mobile phones had a totally different evolution and you can still buy them!

    • @JaguarBST
      @JaguarBST Před rokem +70

      @@jaycelobb6628 If I live to 80, imma do whatever tf I want.

  • @hussassain2745
    @hussassain2745 Před rokem +1209

    Certified thoughty2 all time classic, “ always measure base to tip” almost made me shed a tear with its aptness

    • @wisdomleader85
      @wisdomleader85 Před rokem +48

      Probably the best advice for every gentleman around the world.

    • @Trump2024forAmerica
      @Trump2024forAmerica Před rokem +13

      Nah man you gotta measure cheeks to tip

    • @Ealey43
      @Ealey43 Před rokem +3

      Barrrssss

    • @keegankadi624
      @keegankadi624 Před rokem +6

      to 100% accurately measure the tallest "mountain" you would have to measure from the core

    • @eugenemurray2940
      @eugenemurray2940 Před rokem +9

      'Penetrated deep into The Hymalayas'..🤣

  • @denisf5664
    @denisf5664 Před 11 měsíci +59

    Mount Everest is the highest peak when considering altitude within the atmosphere, and it feels the most otherworldly because it is the closest to the point where the atmosphere ends and space begins

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav Před rokem +77

    Huge respect to the cartographers for completing such a mammoth task. Even today, surveying India is a pain in the ass. The Indian government employees who work to do census is more than the entire population of some countries.

    • @chenanigans
      @chenanigans Před rokem +4

      I just want to know if Everest had an actual name the indigenous people gave to it before a European came along and named it after himself.

    • @GMPranav
      @GMPranav Před rokem +6

      @@chenanigans Mount Chomolungma

    • @GTFBITK
      @GTFBITK Před rokem +3

      ​@G M P I thought you made that shit up. I googled it and you are correct! 😂

    • @TheFourthWinchester
      @TheFourthWinchester Před rokem +4

      @@chenanigans Indigenous sounds offensive to actual living people. Let's not forget that India was the richest country for hundreds of years before the Brits ransacked and killed the entire country to build their own.

    • @robertlee4809
      @robertlee4809 Před rokem

      ​@@GTFBITK😂😂😂

  • @thequantumnexus4270
    @thequantumnexus4270 Před rokem +266

    I think furthest into the atmosphere is probably best considered highest. Which generally means from sea level, since that's where the atmosphere starts and is our basis for our environment. So Mt Everest still holds it.

    • @oliviabb73849
      @oliviabb73849 Před rokem +12

      Thank you Quantum - of course it’s classified as highest peak, not tallest (and if so…misconstrued), and it’s important to know these measurements to make such a classification, which doesn’t seem to be considered in this video title (idk thanks algorithm…but I had to click as this title felt v misleading lol).

    • @noneofyourbusiness4294
      @noneofyourbusiness4294 Před rokem +11

      @@oliviabb73849 Thoughty knew exactly what he's doing with the title. It's what he does.
      Though, what he states in the video works best in English, and other languages that have a bit of room to play with.
      In Germany, unless stated otherwise, everything involving height is measured from NN (normal null), which is sea level. Something like Kea being higher will always be followed by "if we ignore the absolute standard". You can call Kea bigger, taller even, but you can't quite call it the highest peak

    • @johnmichaels4330
      @johnmichaels4330 Před rokem +4

      That and the fact that we aren't aquatic and so the part under water doesn't matter to us.

    • @jimmym3352
      @jimmym3352 Před rokem

      Not buying it. Does Olympus Mons not count as a mountain because there is no sea level on Mars? Which by the way is much taller than Everest.

    • @barkvarkie_fpv8623
      @barkvarkie_fpv8623 Před rokem

      @@jimmym3352 Good point ... but mountaineers aren't flocking to scale the lofty heights of Olympus Mons ... not yet, in any event. At some point in the future, if Space-X and others like them get their way, this will be an entirely different discussion though --- as your comment very clearly illustrates.

  • @doubleh3978
    @doubleh3978 Před rokem +1616

    We could say Mauna Kea is the "tallest", Chimbarazo is the "highest" and Everest is the "longest to climb".

    • @UnknownUser-ni9iz
      @UnknownUser-ni9iz Před rokem +98

      It isn't the longest to climb. There are a lot of mountains that has more base to summit distance than Everest

    • @mr.objective6936
      @mr.objective6936 Před rokem +127

      Wrong. Mt. Everest is not the highest from the ground - it’s the highest from the ocean.
      So it has the thinnest air on top and possibly the coldest air too.

    • @doubleh3978
      @doubleh3978 Před rokem +14

      oh ok, thanks for the clarification

    • @nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988
      @nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988 Před rokem +30

      @@UnknownUser-ni9iz maybe the one with the least oxygen? but even if, we'd have to make actual measurments throughout the year for decades to come to an objective conclusion like that. and the longest to climb would definitely be one in antarctica bc there are only a very select few stations from which one can start at the sea border of the continent.
      what i dont like is that all these measurments take an arbitrary point from which they start to measure. the 0-point of mt everest is obviously sea level, which can indeed change, even if it's more theoretical than practical. chimborazo's 0-point is the center of the planet which is pretty challenging and not too useful for everyday folk. and mauna kea's 0-point is where exactly? is it at exactly 4km below sea level bc who cares about good reasons? then we could just add 4km to mt everest, too. is it the deepest point of the oceans, the mariana's trench? again, we could just add that number to all other mountains, too. is it the point from which on there is a more or less constant incline of at least let's say 10° up till the peak of it, nevermind the water? this would make all alone standing mountains taller than mountains that are within massives, eg pretty much all of the himalayas, pamir, hindukush, karakoram, caucasus and alps, to a lesser degree also mountain chains like the cordillera.
      in the end, we all have to admit that none of these alternatives make sense bc the earth's crust has a varying thickness, being much thinner under the ocean at that and we have no good way of finding precise measurments for all of the important mountains in the world. also, the earth's crust constantly changes by melting and solidifying from and to the mantle. the earth is oblate just like any other planet and so is the atmosphere and our oceans. when we measure at how many meters above sea level we are, we can make a very good estimate about temperature and oxygen content depending on the weather. that's why these measurments are important in mountain climbing and that's why we use these measurments to compare mountains to eachother. also for airplanes not to fly into them ofc.
      it is funny to say that mauna kea is taller than mt everest, but it's also pointless. and chimborazo might be even more pointless. actual meters above sea level is where it's at for a reason, it provides the eastest and most useful way to compare them. if you're a big time mountain climber, you might just take a subjective score from tripadvisor or sth similar as to how hard a particular climb is. as for myself, i'm 99% sure that climbing many of the tallest mountains in antarctica is much more challenging, expensive and rare than mt everest, mauna kea or chimborazo, which has GOT to be the most objective way (or close to it) of measuing climbs for hardcore mountain climbers. well, short of climbing inside an active volcano mid-eruption lol

    • @808bigisland
      @808bigisland Před rokem +9

      Can't surf Everest so Mauna Kea is bestest by a sixpacks lenght.

  • @DubLubb
    @DubLubb Před rokem +17

    Denali is actually the most impressive elevation gain over a short distance, often referred to as "geographic relief." It rises 18,000 feet in about 10 miles from its northern base. That's about a 30° pitch on average. Mauna Kea rises farther above the sea floor (some 33,000 ft) but takes a far more gradual approach over about 60 miles distance to do it giving an average pitch of just 10°. That's a very gradual, rounded dome. The Rakhiot face of Nanga Parbat rises 23,000 ft from the Indus River Valley over about 17 miles of horizontal distance which is a mile greater than Denali's prominence but still a gentler slope.

  • @timothyepotts
    @timothyepotts Před rokem +27

    I've climbed Mt. Lamlam in Guam (US). Although it's peak is only 1,332 ft above sea level, Mt. Lamlam's base originates at the bottom of Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench, making it the tallest mountain in the world, at 11,530m tall. I thought for sure this video would have mentioned Mt. Lamlam, but it didn't.

    • @BearsPajamas
      @BearsPajamas Před rokem +4

      I also thought Denali would be in the video. You climb 6,000ft more when climbing Denali, technically making it a taller mountain that is shorter in relation to sea level.

    • @klmahone
      @klmahone Před rokem +1

      That was the first thing I thought having lived there almost 20 years.

    • @mugnuz
      @mugnuz Před 9 měsíci +1

      but isnt all of asia, africa and europe just the base of mount everest? :O

    • @attackhelicopter-up3dh
      @attackhelicopter-up3dh Před 4 měsíci +1

      Go to the bottom and climb from there!

    • @MediaLieDetector
      @MediaLieDetector Před 3 měsíci

      Highest peaks above sea level?
      Dolly Parton laying on a waterbed.
      😂😂😂

  • @lastnamefirstname9043
    @lastnamefirstname9043 Před rokem +182

    Including the part of the mountain under water is like if you measured Everest from where it joins the tectonic plate. If the ocean weren't there it'd be taller. Yes and if we theoretically excavated 3km of earth from the base of Everest it'd be 3km taller. Can't climb that part.

    • @TheUglySlug666
      @TheUglySlug666 Před rokem +25

      Yep, incredibly stupid logic.

    • @v-ia
      @v-ia Před rokem +27

      thank you! im outraged that there's not more people pointing out such a massive flaw in this logic.

    • @justinhubbard2855
      @justinhubbard2855 Před rokem +29

      We don't measure the height of trees based on how deep the root goes into the ground. Glad you guys recognized the flawed logic as well.

    • @raskreia8326
      @raskreia8326 Před rokem

      @@v-ia hdhd

    • @rumpelstiltskin6965
      @rumpelstiltskin6965 Před rokem +1

      I was thinking the same thing!!! 🙂🙃👍🙌

  • @OJsY
    @OJsY Před rokem +159

    But why mauna kea is considered as beginning underwater instead of the island it’s sitting on beginning underwater? Seems like the only reason Everest isn’t considered starting underwater is just because the ocean is farther away, but at some point the earth under Everest IS starting underwater

    • @ozyssah
      @ozyssah Před rokem +4

      Fr

    • @postone2821
      @postone2821 Před rokem +38

      You're correct. If Mauna Kea can use the part of its mountain that's under water, then Everest should be able to use the part of the mountain that's beneath it in the continent. Everest is the tallest peak

    • @davidking3931
      @davidking3931 Před rokem +11

      The distinction is, if you dropped a ball at the peak and let it roll how far would it go? From Everest it would stop on land somewhere but in the case of Manua Kea it would just keep rolling down to the ocean floor. Guam actually has a vote in this since Mount Lam Lam could 'technically' roll right down to Challenger Deep.

    • @OJsY
      @OJsY Před rokem

      @@davidking3931 but it would go flat somewhere in the island, before descending again underwater, right? Or does it go (more or less) straight doing?

    • @IRUKANJI
      @IRUKANJI Před rokem +11

      @@postone2821 In way of determining it, Everest is definitely the tallest due to what Mauna Kea is. It's a giant shield volcano. The bottom of the volcano is where the magma first started emerging from emerging from the bottom of the ocean in the area and started depositing lava to build up to form the island and its current cone. That by definition cannot be nearly as deep as the tectonic plate root that forms Everest.

  • @aniinnrchoque1861
    @aniinnrchoque1861 Před rokem +3

    The point of "highest mountain" is from sea level that's pretty much undisputed. That's because it's the main metric of where dry land can conventionally begin and thus the atmosphere can become thinner
    The relative ratio to the core arguably doesn't matter, add on top the fact that the atmosphere stretches along the equator as well, so you'd need longer to reach space proper as compared if you jetted off from the poles.

    • @neo-didact9285
      @neo-didact9285 Před 9 měsíci

      The problem with this line of measurement is that it inputs other factors asides from the mountains themselves. If we talk about mountain to mountain, Everest is shorter than the Hawaiian one. The core is even more relevant, because that determines which is the higher bump on the planet itself. Mountains are geologic phenomena, and using an external factor such as atmosphere is a copout. You are physically closer to the cosmos on top of Mt Chimborazo than Everest, and if 2 people were standing on them at the same time, the one on Mt. Chimborazo would me much higher.
      So objectively, Everest is certainly not the roof of the world.

  • @Alexisasful
    @Alexisasful Před rokem +3

    Absolutely adoring every author's abilities in forming fine factional yet entertaining sentences like Thoughty2 does.

  • @its_dey_mate
    @its_dey_mate Před rokem +396

    There's something about this channel I can't describe in a good way of course. Whatever it is, keep doing it mate!

    • @javiazar
      @javiazar Před rokem +30

      It's his ability to tell a story. He's top class at this... this is why the topics can vary so much and the channel maintains the quality... it's his storytelling ability that makes it amazing, not necessarily what he's talking about.

    • @hansanderson8953
      @hansanderson8953 Před rokem +6

      Let me try too. I value that he helps to show that our rational mind deals in absolutes and orientates itself around fixed knowledge. He helps to show the relative nature upon it stands. Breaking the fixed mindsets and guide the individual to a more nuonced and spectral understanding of the world and especially of our Self

    • @cal298
      @cal298 Před rokem +9

      its because he walks the line between old fashioned and modern literally perfectly.

    • @lexxenls
      @lexxenls Před rokem +3

      Phenomenal isn’t he

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      @babygoatsmum4122 Před rokem +14

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  • @Lukas7360
    @Lukas7360 Před rokem +347

    I love how he puts a clickbait title and photo on every single one of his videos, but the content within actually delivers and does not disappoint.

    • @SamsarasArt
      @SamsarasArt Před rokem +25

      If the content actually follows through with the titles then it isn't really clickbait

    • @MrMuz99
      @MrMuz99 Před rokem +7

      ​@@SamsarasArt - They often change the video titles, but we're not being falsely led.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před rokem +3

      His titles are usually creative (let's call it this way) but not clickbait in the purest sense.

    • @R.A.A.
      @R.A.A. Před rokem +6

      I love being a “Master-Baiter” here 🤙🏾😂

    • @CrodleMon
      @CrodleMon Před rokem +1

      I've seen the thumbnail on this video change 3 times before I eventually watched it.

  • @davarece
    @davarece Před rokem +1

    'Measure from base to tip' surely a great opening for a manscaping ad 😂

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU Před rokem +4

    I've heard that Mount McKinley in Alaska is the one that requires the greatest vertical distance climbed in order to summit. If that's the case, I would like for this video to have included that.

  • @Boxaxel
    @Boxaxel Před rokem +15

    well if you count whats under water, how do you know when to stop? where is the natureal place of "hey, this is the bottom of the mountain?", like the sea is when measuring peaks. plus, even if there was such a line, couldn't you technically count the depth of the waters around afro-eurasia into mount everest's height then aswell, meaning it is still taller than that hawaiian mountain

    • @JavaBum
      @JavaBum Před rokem +5

      This is why sea level is used as the starting point. Those that argue against that, typically only argue for *one* side but not the other.

    • @smokebarrel3797
      @smokebarrel3797 Před rokem

      ​@@JavaBum yep..

  • @anshuuu9708
    @anshuuu9708 Před rokem +266

    A short note to the people who'll see this in future, the original name of this video was
    *"Your geography teacher lied to you"*
    And if Everest were to measured the way you measured Mt.K, it wouldn't even stand close
    Edit :- *"Geography Is a Lie"*
    Second Edit :- Reverted to
    *"Your Geo. Teacher lied to you"*
    Third :- *You've been lied to about Mount Everest*

    • @patricjohansson1481
      @patricjohansson1481 Před rokem +20

      Do u mean Thoughty2 changes the name and thumbnail of the vids?! 😏😁

    • @anshuuu9708
      @anshuuu9708 Před rokem +22

      @@patricjohansson1481 yes, they often do, I can tell you like 20-30 something videos they have done this 😭😂

    • @survivalistred3102
      @survivalistred3102 Před rokem +24

      i get clickbaited so often by that just to notice that i already watched it on the same day

    • @davidtatro7457
      @davidtatro7457 Před rokem

      😅😅😅😅

    • @SamBorgman
      @SamBorgman Před rokem +5

      Lol this should be done all the videos. These days the change title and thumbnail after few days to make it look like anew video. YouTubing is like being crafty like a magician, but in a sleazy way.

  • @Salena905
    @Salena905 Před rokem

    Thanks for another fascinating subject Arran, just love your channel. 👏☺️

  • @Four_Words_And_Much_More

    I love your story telling. Clever. Very insightful. Real facts. Thank you again.

  • @mitch_sorenstein
    @mitch_sorenstein Před rokem +164

    You missed McKinley. Mount McKinley, the mountain itself base to peak, not adding the range it sits atop, is the tallest mountain in the world that's fully above water. Every other mountain either cheats by using its range as a step-stool, or is underwater.

    • @knurlgnar24
      @knurlgnar24 Před rokem +22

      I was looking for this exact comment. By what most people think of as a mountain (big hill sticking out of the surrounding ground) I would most definitely say Mt McKinley is the tallest mountain.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Před rokem +13

      @@knurlgnar24 yeah, single peaks not in ranges are very different, and far more imposing than one peak out of dozens.

    • @hufflebuff82
      @hufflebuff82 Před rokem +22

      Mount McKinley was renamed Denali in 2015. A more fitting name for a brutal mountain.

    • @matthewcollins5344
      @matthewcollins5344 Před rokem +11

      We didn’t even call it McKinley when I lived there in 2007. We loved calling it Denali because thats its name. Its definitely the tallest🤘

    • @highwayexit
      @highwayexit Před rokem +2

      Yeah thought of this too, but I also read that the Rupal face of Nanga Parbat is disgustingly large, where on this certain side the base camp sits at quite a low elevation. I read the wall is 4500m, not sure how that compares to Denali, but that's more gain than Everest.

  • @ApintoAApintoA
    @ApintoAApintoA Před rokem +61

    7:22 "You should measure base to tip" - advice we can use in all aspects of life

    • @TheBestofWorlds
      @TheBestofWorlds Před rokem +5

      Indeed and always

    • @calebchanda569
      @calebchanda569 Před rokem +2

      Truer words were never sooken

    • @paulm749
      @paulm749 Před rokem +1

      That little aside reveals the subliminal truth behind the vast majority of such measuring contests, doesn't it? It's all simply a matter of... um... "projection". 😆

    • @1337fraggzb00N
      @1337fraggzb00N Před rokem

      like with the penis

    • @obiwanfisher537
      @obiwanfisher537 Před rokem

      Unless you're a tiny dick, then you need to measure from the balls to add extra inches.

  • @Secondcropcreative
    @Secondcropcreative Před rokem +3

    Fantastic video- and crazy that there is even more controversy around Mt. Everest and who actually reached the top first. An attempt was made in 1924 by two men and one body was only found, the other missing and so is the camera they brought with them as well as a picture of the wife of the man whose body was found - he was going to leave it at the peak 🤯😵‍💫

  • @prettylights482
    @prettylights482 Před rokem

    Mmkay, I needed to repeat everything you said after "always measure base to tip" because I died. Excellent video Thoughty!

  • @carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679

    i think this video is fun! "How we measure it matters"
    As a science major - i agree. Isn't that why the ISO standards were designed, so YOUR don't measure it THIS way, but we all make an agreement to measure it THAT way?

  • @msaintjo
    @msaintjo Před rokem +81

    "You should always measure base to tip" 🤣 Thoughty2 always has funny interjections

    • @ATomRileyA
      @ATomRileyA Před rokem +4

      But if you measure it like the submerged Mauna Kea " dry prominence" you can claim extra length haha

    • @msaintjo
      @msaintjo Před rokem

      @@ATomRileyA very true!

    • @SatumainenOlento
      @SatumainenOlento Před 9 měsíci

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Vanilla-jd1ez
    @Vanilla-jd1ez Před 10 měsíci +1

    We've been lied to about almost everything. This is by far the least significant lie.

  • @michaelh775
    @michaelh775 Před rokem +1

    No mention of Denali? Denali is taller than Everest if you measure them from base to peak, if they both sat at sea level.
    Everest's base camp is already at an elevation which requires acclimation.

  • @s8n123
    @s8n123 Před rokem +7

    Mountains are so pleasing and refreshing
    Its a blessing being Nepali
    I live almost 110KM south from kanchenjunga(the second largest mountain in nepal)
    but still i can see that from my house

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem

      ​@Leandro Aude ok, gotta ask. What's titfights?

    • @s8n123
      @s8n123 Před rokem

      @Leandro Aude I'm sorry what ?😂

  • @jayjeckel
    @jayjeckel Před rokem +21

    If you also measure Everest's height from the bottom of the ocean then it still beats Mauna Kea by a ridiculous amount. Mauna Kea only wins if one cheats and uses different rules for measuring the two mountains. And Chimborazo isn't the "Highest" it's the Furthest (from the core). Contrary to the end of the video, highest above sea level is the only measure that really matters at all.

  • @kingofthejungle3833
    @kingofthejungle3833 Před rokem +1

    @5:20 if we are to measure Mauna Kea from the bottom of the ocean, the perhaps Everest should be measured from the bottom of the land mass that it sits on, which probably has it's valley at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. As for Mount Chimborazo, try setting your altimeter at 6268 metres, then fly from Chimborazo to Everest, if you can safely make it over Everest, we will all know that Everest is not the tallest mountain peak, if you don't make it over Everest then, your family will (probably) get a lot of flowers sent to them.

  • @jasonrosenberger6989
    @jasonrosenberger6989 Před rokem +2

    Great video on how to critically think through a problem. I would only add that since the bulge extends to the atmosphere as well, the atmosphere would be thinner at the top of Mount Everest compared to Chimborazo making the climb more dangerous. It all depends on the reference of measurement, in this case the core vs crust level. Hail to the nerds.

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 Před rokem +4

    7:22 Yessir, absolutely! Lolol

  • @j3f423
    @j3f423 Před rokem +21

    The video behind your voice is what makes your channel so much better than many of these similar ones mad respect for the work put in. Best wishes

  • @AutobahnVault
    @AutobahnVault Před 6 měsíci

    Born and raised within a 2 hr. drive from the Chimborazo. It is a sight to behold; impossible to describe in words or with a photo. You have to be there to feel its power.

  • @col403
    @col403 Před rokem +1

    I 2 have a thoughty once in a while but you take things to the highest level. Love the vids ,Sir.

  • @Quadr44t
    @Quadr44t Před rokem +34

    Since the atmosphere and sea level also bulges at the equator, I'd say for all effect and purposes, Everest still is the tallest. Its top has the lowest air density, it is furthest up in the atmosphere.

    • @oelewappert
      @oelewappert Před rokem

      well is it not the highest mountain then and not the tallest?

    • @ChickSage
      @ChickSage Před rokem

      I would go by the altitude at the peak of the mountain.

    • @ChickSage
      @ChickSage Před rokem

      @@oelewappert Which mountain peak has the highest altitude?

    • @oelewappert
      @oelewappert Před rokem

      @@ChickSage the mount everest, but that means the mountain everest is the tallest mountain above sea level instead of the tallest of the earth right?

    • @ChickSage
      @ChickSage Před rokem +1

      @@oelewappert I was thinking we should determine which is the "highest" mountain, because there seemed to be a lack of consensus on where ground becomes mountain, and this seems to be making it difficult to determine where the actual bottom of a mountain is found. Altitude, however, seems to be a clearly defined concept.

  • @sdraper2011
    @sdraper2011 Před rokem +18

    Your animations just get better and better. Well done!

  • @ujjwallepcha9002
    @ujjwallepcha9002 Před rokem +1

    Everest extends further into the atmosphere. So I would call Everest the "Highest in the World" and Chimbaradzo the "furthest from the Centre of the Earth".

  • @oscarfernandoofpublicnature

    I climbed the Chimborazo and came down so fast I got altitud sickness so bad i though i was going to die...it was a touristy thing so we got to the top minus 200m, nevertheless remains the most beautiful view I've seen so far. The peak is not sorrounded by other mountains, it stands imposing in almost flat land, so it looks gigantic like nothing else I've seen...the semidesert around is gorgeous and there were wild horses

  • @almighty3946
    @almighty3946 Před rokem +69

    “You should always measure from base to tip” - Arran Lomas, 2023

    • @rafaelvoss6639
      @rafaelvoss6639 Před rokem +6

      🤣

    • @tektrixter
      @tektrixter Před rokem +7

      "base" is measured pressed to the pelvic bone

    • @MrMuz99
      @MrMuz99 Před rokem

      ​@tektrixter - Of course. Include your pubis and you've got an exaggerated size.

    • @tektrixter
      @tektrixter Před rokem +3

      @@MrMuz99 it's one of the few ways to consistently measure for self collected scientific data.

    • @giorgospapoutsakis5271
      @giorgospapoutsakis5271 Před rokem +1

      ​@@rafaelvoss6639 🤓

  • @Dranok1
    @Dranok1 Před rokem +10

    You could also have mentioned the different conventions on defining a hill or a mountain as measured either from sea level or the mean level of the surrounding land, giving yet more definitions of "highest" vs. "tallest" which is always fun...

  • @akasha9141
    @akasha9141 Před rokem

    “Always measure base to tip”
    Laughed way to hard at that

  • @Demonic614
    @Demonic614 Před rokem +1

    If you're going to measure from there, then you have to measure Mt everest from the bottom of the tectonic plate that makes up the entirety of the mountain. It's silly to suggest that something is "bigger" when you measure from a completely different point.

  • @heroyt2490
    @heroyt2490 Před rokem +12

    First time seeing Thoughty 2 post in front of my face. Hilarious

  • @dezpotizmOFheaven
    @dezpotizmOFheaven Před rokem +46

    I always had these "methods" of measruing in mind. But at the same time it was always about that "highest peak above sea level" that our teachers told us.
    It is the most common way to measure elevations and hights I guess, since it is the easiest one.

    • @masedub976
      @masedub976 Před rokem +15

      "It is the most common way to measure elevations and hights I guess, since it is the easiest one." And also it is important to have a consistent standard when comparing things.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před rokem +12

      Reason why you don't also include the parking garages when measuring the tallest skyscrapers. It's from the ground level.

    • @buu88553
      @buu88553 Před rokem +9

      It's important to measure from sea level cos that's where we mark the boundary between earth and atmosphere. As we go up from sea level, we biologically feel the thinning of the atmosphere more and more. You would feel the farthest from your comfortable air pressure and O2 level on top of Mt. Everest. The peak of Mt. Everest is where you can get closest to outer space without stepping off of earth. It does not work in Hawaii cos the atmosphere doesn't know how much of the mountain is under the sea. It doesn't work in Ecuador cos the atmosphere bulges along with the earth.

    • @battinpattonstudios
      @battinpattonstudios Před rokem +3

      @@masedub976 you’re right, which is why mountains being tallest, or some of the tallest, have been consistently measured from sea level. It doesn’t matter if the mountain is really tall when in comparison to the deep valley it inhabits…. It’s how close to the ends of the Earth’s atmosphere does the mountain reach.

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR Před rokem +1

      My question as a climber has always been 'what's closest to the sky' and I wasn't disappointed..

  • @disciplesoftheapocalypse

    7:28 got me laughing like I’m in grade school over here. 😂

  • @_dvstn_
    @_dvstn_ Před rokem +17

    “Always measure base to tip” part caught me so off guard and I’m currently rolling because I’m “immature” 😭😭😭😂😂😂

  • @flameguy3416
    @flameguy3416 Před rokem +8

    My Geography teacher actually had a rant about Everest not being the tallest technically. Big 'um actually' moment.

  • @chunkyhoey8649
    @chunkyhoey8649 Před rokem +5

    Not sure if my geography teacher ever lied to us about geography lessons but he was busy teaching us about the monsoon weather and layers of the ground etc.

  • @SheaLeona
    @SheaLeona Před 9 měsíci

    “And you should always measure base to tip” 😂😂😂

  • @tasjourney7778
    @tasjourney7778 Před rokem +1

    The craziest part of this whole thing is I never really thought about where Mount Everest was located. Just because of the name I assumed the USA somewhere out west 😅😅😅😅

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 Před rokem +1

      Your school teachers would be so embarrassed

    • @tasjourney7778
      @tasjourney7778 Před rokem

      @@chrispekel5709 i know lol I missed something somewhere

  • @MasayaShida
    @MasayaShida Před rokem +44

    Always a good day when Thoughty2 uploads!

  • @JusticeBackstrom
    @JusticeBackstrom Před rokem +4

    Mauna Kea only counts, if you consider the entire island to be part of it. Chimbarazo is neither the tallest, nor highest; its base is simply the farthest from the center of the earth. Everest is only the highest, not the tallest because its base is also far above sea level. Finding the base of a mountain can be kind of difficult, and arbitrary, and thet's why we use sea level, but you certainly won't be climbing anywhere near 29,000 feet, if you start anywhere near Mt. Everest. In my understanding the tallest mountain is actually Mt. McKinley, in Alaska because it has the longest climb, from trailhead to peak.

  • @jbckdjbjkasdbkjsd
    @jbckdjbjkasdbkjsd Před rokem

    “universally known” pluto: am i joke to you

  • @jackofalltrades123
    @jackofalltrades123 Před rokem +1

    I was very surprised you didnt mention the actual tallest mountain in the world from base to tip in terms of land mountains which is mt denali in alaska

  • @malina1239
    @malina1239 Před rokem +10

    The highest mountain I have hiked is only 1883 meters..
    it has always felt like a huge accomplishment … but not so much when I see this.
    But then I’m a larger woman in quite bad shape😂😂😂

    • @Saint_nobody
      @Saint_nobody Před rokem

      I'm a man of decent shape... I was eclipsed by a man old enough to be me grandfather, when hiking Pikes Peak a few years back.

    • @Dirty_white_boy
      @Dirty_white_boy Před rokem

      You're lapping everyone on the couch when you go out and try things. You go girl!

  • @shepshape2585
    @shepshape2585 Před rokem +5

    Dr Tyson recently covered this topic on Star Talk, but I must admit that your video goes into much more interesting detail and is much more engaging to watch. Kudos to you for that.

  • @Captain_Sosuke_Aizen
    @Captain_Sosuke_Aizen Před rokem +1

    Then you have to measure from the bottom of the tectonic plate. Just because one has water around and it's convenient for you to measure does not mean the other one is not going down.
    And is equator higher than poles? That's actually a question that does not make sense just like taking equatorial bulge in to consideration for measuring mountains.

  • @rgerber
    @rgerber Před rokem

    this is the best look for Thoughty. Away from the lumberjack mustache and back to the more classy look. The perfect middle

  • @dmvlines5143
    @dmvlines5143 Před rokem +22

    "You should always measure base to tip" 100% agreed it makes all the difference

    • @aldavedario4818
      @aldavedario4818 Před rokem

      was about to comment the same thing because I couldn't agree more LoL. Otherwise I would'nt get a 4.5 inch

    • @typpiet5140
      @typpiet5140 Před rokem +2

      depends on what you consider the base.

    • @davearonow65
      @davearonow65 Před rokem +1

      That's what SHE said.

  • @simonforfan
    @simonforfan Před rokem +2

    Long time no see, Thoughty ! Miss when you uploaded more frequently, but still so awesome you're still here after all these years,
    And still giving us amazing content! Best youtuber ever. Why tf you wont get "drafted" by a network for making a series is mind boggling

  • @algorithminc.8850
    @algorithminc.8850 Před rokem

    One of your best videos. Thanks. Cheers

  • @mpsanish
    @mpsanish Před rokem

    Missed ur videos, love the humor!!

  • @kapill8990
    @kapill8990 Před rokem +2

    you had me laughing so hard for like two minutes after you said "And you should always measure base to tip". MAN that cracked me up!!!

  • @reon2x22
    @reon2x22 Před rokem +10

    I love your books and narrations and videos, please make more books. ❤️💕

  • @janpaul74
    @janpaul74 Před rokem

    Very nice to see that you used an image of Ama Dablam as the image for Mount Everest.

  • @jeysonbraun4250
    @jeysonbraun4250 Před rokem +8

    Interesting fact about Chimborazo. In the 1970's an Ecuadorian airliner with some 70 passengers disappeared without a trace (4 engined Vickers Viscount). Around 2002 or so, wreckage and bodies were discovered in a receding glacier on Chimborazo! I climbed this mountain in 2000. To think i was climbing right near 70 some missing bodies is kind of eerie!

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Před rokem

      oh yeah, one of the deadliest air crashes in history was in a location where the bodies were never fully recovered: Antarctica. Standard search and rescue was impossible. If it had been a warmer climate there might have been survivors, unlikely given the nature of the crash, but everyone living or dead froze solid within minutes of the crash.
      how did it crash in Antarctica? Enh... the idea was tours by air. Let people see the majesty of antarctica from the safety of a jumbo jet. which went horribly wrong....

  • @antaresthirdeldenlord4840

    I think the tallest mountain on Earth is the one that has the most height based on its own size alone. Someone's height doesn't change if you're on the curb or on the street.

    • @sbadvi
      @sbadvi Před rokem +3

      That would be Mount Denali

    • @ISGBaby
      @ISGBaby Před rokem

      Yeah but that comparison is a little unfair considering you aren’t attached to the curb

  • @UrielManX7
    @UrielManX7 Před rokem

    This reminded me about the title of most poisonous snake, like, by which standards? Human deaths per year? Toxicity of the venom? Survival chance? Who knows.

  • @MagicSteel1
    @MagicSteel1 Před rokem

    I'd imagine lack of oxygen and temperature making it difficult to clime would be the main reason we rate peaks based on height from sea level

  • @Hydrosized
    @Hydrosized Před rokem +2

    Congratulations on 5 mil m8, you really deserve it! Let’s shoot for 10 mil! ❤

  • @mergedwithgod
    @mergedwithgod Před rokem +92

    I love the work, research, and consistency you put into your videos. Thank you

    • @kaymas2794
      @kaymas2794 Před rokem

      he got the height of everest wrong

  • @brandonstarr8486
    @brandonstarr8486 Před rokem

    Saw you on a docu series on Netflix! It was just a couple second clip but I was surprised 😂

  • @C4m4r0
    @C4m4r0 Před rokem +1

    Really thought this was going to be about Denali since the claim was just made that they are the tallest mountain with a base starting at ground level.

  • @anonymoususer6920
    @anonymoususer6920 Před rokem +3

    Great video! keep it up

  • @kareningram6093
    @kareningram6093 Před rokem +3

    Since you mentioned the solar system in the beginning of your video, I'm surprised you didn't shoutout the tallest mountain in the solar system, Olympus Mons on Mars. You could fit Mauna Kea, as well as the entire Hawaiian Island chain, inside of Olympus Mons.

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul Před rokem +1

      And it is a grand example of the problem:
      The winner will change dependent on your categorizations.

    • @kareningram6093
      @kareningram6093 Před rokem

      @@lostbutfreesoul Indeed.

  • @mattygaga2013
    @mattygaga2013 Před rokem

    8:06 looks like the flat earthers hacked your feed 🤣

  • @DemonArshan
    @DemonArshan Před rokem +14

    Been watching Thoughty2 since 2018 he's almost unrecognizable I love his journey ❣️

  • @cubeflinger
    @cubeflinger Před rokem +3

    Me to my wife "I'll decide where we measure from 😭"

  • @mrs.barbarinaybarra7765

    impressed with your ability to explain core to tallest mountains many thanks

  • @jagbang199
    @jagbang199 Před 10 měsíci

    What is to be noted that first Mt Everest was first measured from a hill station near Dehradun (approx 165 kms away from mt everest)! around 1000 lbs was used of surveying material was used! it was measured as 9,000 mts, then an Indian surveyor actually measured the mountain to be around 8840 mts.

  • @OnBoard_PistoNs200
    @OnBoard_PistoNs200 Před rokem +8

    Just to be clear, Mt. Kanchanjunga also lies in Nepal. There are 8 of the 10 highest 8000meters tall mountains only in Nepal.

    • @vijayant_rai
      @vijayant_rai Před rokem +1

      Not quite. Major part of Kanchenjunga lies in Sikkim, India.

    • @travediary
      @travediary Před rokem +1

      @@vijayant_raimajor prts lie in nepal! Only a tip of the base of that mountain lies in india!!! Get your facts right !!! The submit lies in nepal not india !!!

    • @adventuresofbee0909
      @adventuresofbee0909 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@vijayant_raiChina also claims Everest is in China because the northern slope (back side) of Everest lies in China. That doesn't officially mean Everest is a Chinese mountain 😂😂😂. Every mountaineer scales the Everest from Namche, Nepal. What a bunch of glory hunters!

  • @louis-philip
    @louis-philip Před rokem +3

    It's not how tall it is that counts. It's about what you do with it.

  • @joeysk8ter2002
    @joeysk8ter2002 Před rokem

    I love how even when you subscribe to CZcams premium to get rid of ad’s,just to have greedy creators and companies to still shove ad’s in your face like Idgaf about nord vpn bruh

  • @LucaLombardiPhoto
    @LucaLombardiPhoto Před 10 měsíci

    7:22 is the highest comedy peak ever!!!

  • @sophiaisabelle0227
    @sophiaisabelle0227 Před rokem +6

    Seems like not everything taught in school is accurate. Thanks for this video, by the way.

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul Před rokem +2

      Now imagine the number of people who come out of the high school system thinking they know everything.
      Even Fifty years after....

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem

      Ya think?

  • @TenFalconsMusic
    @TenFalconsMusic Před rokem +3

    My geography teacher thought the earth was flat.
    😁👍

  • @thechoosenone9213
    @thechoosenone9213 Před rokem

    Bruh we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING lol 😂

  • @knuffelbeer93
    @knuffelbeer93 Před rokem +3

    Never boring!❤

  • @thedevilslight3310
    @thedevilslight3310 Před rokem +3

    Always, ALWAYS measure from base to tip😂

  • @jonkline709
    @jonkline709 Před rokem

    Great video. Thank you I completely understood the reasoning thank you for talking to us and not down to us.

  • @jeffreyturcotte420
    @jeffreyturcotte420 Před rokem

    "You should always measure base to tip.."😂

  • @kingjohn3497
    @kingjohn3497 Před rokem +5

    You should always measure from base to tip #facts 💯

  • @heelerhealer7552
    @heelerhealer7552 Před rokem +4

    Right off the bat, Thoughty is getting lazy with his stock footage. The "blue" whale is definitely a Sperm whale. He used to be right on the money with this kind of detail, that's why I subbed.

  • @coyoboyo
    @coyoboyo Před rokem

    I am now prepared to annoy by friends at parties with the new information!

  • @jamwayofaiken-augustarockb7643

    I've been watching your videos since you were a teenager I'm glad you're still trucking along

  • @AKASHSingh-qj8bd
    @AKASHSingh-qj8bd Před rokem +54

    Thoughty2 never disappoints

    • @dirremoire
      @dirremoire Před rokem

      Thoughty2 really mailed it in today.

    • @Eidolon1andOnly
      @Eidolon1andOnly Před rokem +3

      ​@@dirremoire Where did he *mail* it to?

    • @thebigdog2295
      @thebigdog2295 Před rokem +1

      He's definitely the master of veiled jokes. I'm willing to bet most people didn't even catch the one in this video. 😅😂🤣

    • @MrMuz99
      @MrMuz99 Před rokem +1

      ​@@thebigdog2295 - " And remember to always measure base to tip "

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 Před rokem +7

    My geography teacher did more than lie to me 👀😢

    • @hugh.g.rection5906
      @hugh.g.rection5906 Před rokem

      get rekt

    • @supernatural_forces
      @supernatural_forces Před rokem

      They are brainwashed/ misinformed too.
      Economics also teaches that Inflation is the Increase in price of commodities & services over a particular period and blah blah..!
      However, in reality, its the Devaluation of Paper (Money).💸
      The U.S. has lost about 98% of it's value in about 80-90 years. It was about 15-20 $ around 1930 & it is about 2000 $ in 2023.
      The new printed Paper by the Banking Cartel steals value from the already existing Paper in the Market. Its like robbing savings of the ordinary people. Its a gradual process.

    • @nholovacs
      @nholovacs Před rokem +1

      taught you all kinds of things, I bet.

    • @patricjohansson1481
      @patricjohansson1481 Před rokem

      🫦

  • @majorphenom1
    @majorphenom1 Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾