1963: JFK Murdered - Darwin Payne Reporting 🎤
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- On November 22, 1963, Darwin Payne was working at his desk at the downtown Dallas Times Herald when the city editor declared, “Code 3, Dealey Plaza!” This led to the then twenty-six year old Darwin reporting on the most significant event of his career.
Darwin Payne, author of Behind the Scenes: Covering the JFK Assassination, shares this story at the Allen Public Library.
Interviewing a group of young women who worked for Abraham Zapruder, they shared that their boss had been filming the presidential motorcade. Darwin was led to the offices of Jennifer Juniors, Inc., a clothing manufacturer co-founded by Zapruder, in the Dal-Tex Building at 501 Elm St. On an office filing cabinet there was the famed Bell & Howell Zoomatic 8-mm camera that recorded what is arguably the most famous footage in American history.
Darwin interviewed detectives outside the School Book Depository as they transported evidence from the shooter’s location, including the rifle. He was also among a small number of journalists who were permitted to inspect the assassin’s sixth-floor window from where the fatal shots were thought to have been fired.
Darwin later earned a PhD from the University of Texas at Austin, taught journalism at SMU for thirty years, and is the author of numerous books, including Indomitable Sarah: The Life of Judge Sarah T. Hughes.
The library is located at 300 N. Allen Dr. Call 214-509-4911 for additional information.
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How can anyone research this case for 60 yrs and still think Oswald did it😅
By using intelligence and considering the overwhelming evidence against Oswald. There is no credible corroborated evidence of any conspiracy.
Let's think about this. Oswald fired the first shot through the trees, after at least two ricochets it his James Tague. Then (after no reaction from people trained to protect JFK) he shoots again and it causes seven wounds, JFK, Connally. Then again after ZERO reaction (All it would have taken was a swerve or acceleration of the car) Oswald shoots again and kills JFK. How lucky was that? Then...they arrest him about an hour+ later and he is dead within 48 hours. The luck to pull it off and the bad luck after.
@@h20s56Had law enforcement authorities been seriously interested in conducting a legitimate and rational investigation into the biggest crime since the assassination of Lincoln … they would surely have transferred Oswald to a “maximum security “ facility. Additionally, they would have interrogated him with multiple recorders. Interrogated him again and again and the trial would have gone forward. This was the “crime of the century”. Authorities wouldn’t have feared multiple interrogations since Oswald supposedly acted alone and would naturally not have revealed anything embarrassing or shocking… right ?!?!?
Yeah.🤔
Because the evidence is very clear and proves that Oswald did it.
@@cryptoroark314 let me give u the simplest explaination why it's impossible for Oswald to be the lone assassin..the fatal shot came from the front hit his right temple and poor Oswald was way way back in the School Depository which is behind Kennedy..end of discussion
As soon as he said 'large sack he used to carry the rifle', I knew this guy was clueless.
😂Did you see the picture of the bag what would you call it?
@@randyharris3175 - Probably your wife, if you have one.
@@ghostdance56I expect that comment from a dunce like you. Forget the evidence attack the evidence presenter.
@@ghostdance56 Glad you are still talking like an unhinged crackpot, it's reassuring.
@@randyharris3175 I saw the photo. Doesn't look like a bag to me. Looks like a strip of brown wrapping paper (aka "Butcher paper"). Buell Frazier, the co-worker who gave Oswald a ride to work that morning described a brown wrapping paper package that fit between Oswald's hand and his arm-pit - something about 22" long (testified to that under oath before the Warren Commission).
Oswald's rifle, even broken down, was longer than 22".
Keep the JFK / RFK videos coming.
Absolutely. I love this City of Allen channel. I watch everything JFK related that comes out here
Oh they WILL to perpetuate of the Lone Assassin Myth!!
@@michaelsikora6739😂 hahaha, although I've seen some other videos from them where they allow reputable researchers to share the other side of the story. #LongLiveCamelot
THIS IS NONSENSE. DONT WASTE YOUR TIME.
Yeah this is guy is talking sense. We want to hear fairytales about the limo driver shooting the President.
@@ath7616 He wasn't the "limo driver" to the planners. The planners take all the human elements out of it. The "driver" was the "target mover" simple as that.
When the first shots still hadn't made their mark by the last section of the ambush zone, the target mover brought the target to almost a complete halt, so that the forward team could hit their mark. It was only once the target mover turned around to ensure a successful hit, that he accelerated the target out of the zone to begin the all important cov-er-up.
@@jimmycricket5366 “Target mover” huh? Did you go the library and get that out of “CIA For Dummies?”
Please. Throwing around secret agent operational “catch phrases” is lame as hell.
@@jetcat132 I wasn't trying to be the opposite of whatever "lame as hell" is. Just looking at it as cold & clinical as the orchestrators definitely did. Simples.
This guy is a wealth of "Mis-information" ... I'm not sure who signs his paycheck, but he has so many facts wrong in his reporting (Oswald was the CIA/FBI patsy as Oswald had originally claimed when he was under arrest and being held by the Dallas Police Dept.).
Quite simply LBJ had the motive, opportunity and means/access to make this tragic event happen.
Malcolm "Mac" Wallace, who was LBJ's paid hitman was just one of the many "shooters" in the sniper teams which were present that fateful day in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, TX.
To believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the "Lone Gunman" involved is just pure fiction. Yes, Oswald was there in the Texas School Book Depository, exactly where he was told to be by his CIA handlers ! There is just to much evidence which has been revealed and assembled to date which point to a mass conspiracy coordinated by key elements of the CIA-FBI-LBJ-Military Intelegence-MAFIA-ExCuban Patriots, which committed this heinous assassination of a sitting U.S. President, in plan sight of the public (which was the whole point of this event), AS WELL AS THE COVERUP of their crime which involved many branches of the then U.S. Governement. This EVIL still exists in our current U.S. Government which DOES NOT WANT the PEOPLE to know the truth ... even 60 years after they committed this treacherous act !
NOTE: See the CZcams video series "The Men on the Sixth Floor", narrated by Glen Sample, the author of the book of that same title (2010), which gives a better account of just some of the events which led to the crime of the 20th Century.
Do you think Oswald went to the theatre to meet a handler?
Great comment.
In plain view as it was intended to be.
It's my belief Zapruder was there to film for posterity and knowing it.
All wannabe future Presidents then knew they would be prisoners to the status quo.
Yes, and at 20 minutes this Payne [not Paine] recounted Fascist demonstrators rocking Stevenson's car on 10-24-63. I had not heard of this before, only the placard hitting the UN Ambassador. The fact that a Kennedy cabinet official 's car was nearly turned over [and apparently DPD did nothing] only illustrates that the Secret Service should have been much better prepared on November 22 for multiple assassins. In fact, the SS did less protection than was provided in many other JFK motorcades.
@@PaulHenreidI do.
Thank you. We have a duty to keep telling the truth until our government finally comes clean, but that won’t happen until the Boomer generation is gone and no one else will care, consider it ancient history. The point is it should matter to them, because the same deceit goes on today and always will until the American cares as much about reality as they do their “ reality” shows.
"AND THE COW JUMPED OVER THE MOON"!!!
Yeah this guy is nuts. Sounds like he was more like a stenographer. He was fast becoming obsolete by then. Tape recorders were old hat by 1963 and had become quite affordable. Alas no video of Oswald's interview, alas not even a few feet of magnetic tape off an old reel-to-reel tape recorder. They clearly didn't want Oswald on tape... Tape could easily be copied and leaked. What was it about Oswald they were terrified might become public??
No one saw Oswald with a sack big enough for a rifle.
Exactly. No one who saw him enter the building that morning, saw him carrying a package. No one during the day saw him carrying a package. There was no package photographed at the alleged snipers nest.
No, the guy who drove him to work asked him about the package. Oswald replied "blinds that needed to be restrung"
@@eddylauterback1312
Wrong. Totally fabricated. No curtain rods were ever found..
The rifle was stripped down and taken into the building in a package wrapped in brown paper, just like a parcel, his co worker who drove him to work said this. EDIT After watching a video of how to strip down a carcano m38 I can't see that he would of stripped it down as this would only shorten the the rifle by about 8 inches, not worth the bother. I read the rifle he was sent was the carcano carbine 40 inches long, that's a small rifle.
@@fightingcockcoglan
Not corroborated by anyone else. Buel’s sister said she saw nothing in his hands when he walked over from the Paine house as they left.
So he reassembled it and aligned the sight without being noticed? The sight was not well aligned according to the evidence.
If he was acting alone, the best shot would have been as the limo turned on to Elm when JFK was facing him head on only 6 floors below. If he had planned it, he would have been a few feet inside the window in the shadows where he would not be noticed from the outside.
Makes no sense to wait until he was way down the street and lean out the window.
No...that sack did not hold the rifle. That sack was made there and left there. That rifle wasn't the rifle. The real one that was found...a German Moiuser, just like Roger Craing stated before he was ran off the road and killed.
Not a true statement. You heard Oliver Stone say it and you are now regurgitating it.
What a dark world you live in. Everything you said is just…. garbage.
@@ath7616actually one of the officers who discovered the gun signed an affidavit that it was a Mauser he found. I saw it from a JFK researcher but I was able to find it online myself, very easy to find.
@@ath7616 No he's right. I've seen the video of Roger Craig saying it himself so it didn't come from Oliver Stone. Do some research before you claim something isn't true when actually you don't know what you are talking about.
Craig committed suicide and he made up B.S. stories about attempts on his life.
No Mauser was found, cops freely owned up to misidentifying the rifle at first.
As if somebody would leave the wrong kind of rifle lying around the crime scene!
The rifle that Oswald bought supposedly had the sling attached on the underside of the butt and below the barrel. That seems to be borne out by the photo of Oswald in this presentation. Check out the Getty images for a closer look. The rifle produced at the TSBD seems to have the attachments to the side. Or are my eyes failing?
You are right on the mark. The news identified the rifle as a Mauser as well.
@@richardcamacho7276 - Not just the 'news', the Dallas Police Dept identified it that way too. The report still exists.
@@ghostdance56It in fact does not exist. The rifle was misidentified and the cops owned up to it.
@@jetcat132 - Yeah, seasoned law enforcement officials misidentified the murder weapon in the case of the century. Gullible much?
@@jetcat132 - Up until a couple years ago, you could still find the news video of the Dallas PD lowering the 303 Enfield rifle they found on the roof. That film existed for almost 50 years, and has since been wiped from the internet.
What a coincidence that they also found that very same model rifle in Buell Wesley Frazier's closet huh.
You don't know crap about this case son.
How many of your photographs have you kept from your coverage of JFK' Assassination? Have you had exhibitions of your photos!
This guy's full of it.
Please put up the mark groubert presentation real true information
Yea right 😂 that is pure fantasy.
Mark Groubert's record:
- cranks out video after video giving his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he opines away the man was a conspirator with no evidence so long as it suits his crackpot "theories"
- does the same to Ruth Paine as though he's just gagging for her to sue his ass for slander
- has no qualms about hawking books written by Alex Jones....
Here's some real true information:
Mark Groubert cranks out one video after another giving his middle finger to the family of decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he opines away with zero evidence the man was a conspirator so long as it suits his crackpot "theories," to hell with the pain his words might cause them.
He does the same thing to Ruth Paine as thought the idiot is just gagging to get his ass sued for slander.
He has no qualms happily hawking books written by unspeakable monster Alex Jones...
@@randyharris3175it's a hell of a lot more factual than this bullshit.
you government pricks should be tried for treason for still trying to produce false propaganda - the next President should drain that swamp.@@randyharris3175
funny that they sent all those cops to the movie theater to remove someone who was reported to not paid for a ticket.....as the cops had not yet connected any turnstile jumping with a cop killing
Exactly! Oswald was switching seats because he was suppose to meet his handler there except he was set up. They found him with a dollar bill torn in half and his handler would've had the other half because the serial numbers would've matched. He was a patsy from the beginning!
He had to get out of there quickly! So he stopped in the kitchen to enjoy a Coca-Cola.
It's particularly interesting that according to the theater manager, Oswald had not jumped the turnstile at all, but bought popcorn and was seated during the coming attractions which began at 1:05pm.
@@Smith-he6bglol, yea, that's my favorite."I just blew the prez shit away in public" have a Coke and a smile
The cops were looking for the nut who just shot a cop. He was acting suspiciously, and was spotted by a storekeeper right before he ducked into the theater.
Is reality even an afterthought here? Give it a try, let the mist and cobwebs of paranoia clear.
Teddy Roosevelt and Rough Riders were in War with Spain not Mexico.
Love the presentations of all the content on JFK.
Except it’s wrong
@@chrisecker5563 I never Said he was right I said I love the presentations bub👍
Wow, the evidence of Oswald’s guilt is outstanding
The motorcade was a few blocks? Try 7 miles from Love Field to Dealey Plaza alone. A liilt more to the Trademart.
This guy is like the others and he’s wrong he’s just selling his view better than most.he seems sincere.
😂wrong about what?
He's telling his recollections as a reporter during the assassination....blessings be upon us all
@@ktthomas7714 no this is propaganda
The longest shot was 88 yrds not 250
All those degrees and hates the truth
This guy's spouting NONSENSE! Must’ve been a dreadful reporter!
I shudder to think how much conspiracy nonsense you spout; like about non-existent Mausers, 2nd shooters or, lol, teams of assassins - that's especially asinine.
the best episode is the one with Bob Groden .
Robert Groden's distinguished record:
a) screens Zapruder's film at lectures with a phony soundtrack filled with bogus gunshots slapped over it, never telling his audience it's a fake
b) gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he opines away the man was a conspirator without evidence so long as it suits his crackpot "theories"
c) tells demonstrable lies in his books
d) conducts bus tours through Dealey Plaza with gunshot sounds playing on the loudspeakers
e) volunteered his services at the O.J. Simpson civil trial as a photo expert (to prove O.J. was framed by a conspiracy, naturally) and ended up looking like a discredited fool on the stand...
i thought it was truly sad,,,
Robert Groden's record:
- gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he accuses the man without evidence of being a conspirator so long as it suits his crackpot "theories"
- screens Zapruder's film at lectures with a bogus soundtrack full of gunshots he never tells his audience is a fake
- volunteered his services at the O.J. Simpson civil trial as a photo expert (to prove O.J. was framed by a conspiracy, of course) and ended up looking like a discredited fool on the stand
- rotates autopsy photos to suit his agenda
- acknowledges the 3 tramps were ID'd and cleared, then later refers to the "so-called tramps!"
- conducts bus tours through Dealey Plaza with gunshots playing over the speakers....
Thank you to the Allen Public Library for providing this ellucidating live, online program with Darren Payne.
Well I wish they would do their homework
More Texas School Book Suppository! Been shoving this fiction for 60 years
Any reporting of the German Mauser rifle initially found by Dallas police on the sixth floor? Too much attention to irrelevant details in this lecture.
Except it’s a wealth of disinformation
There was no Mauser. The Carcano was misidentified. Do you see someone watching you behind every tree or what…?
Did you see the multiple interviews of three police officers and eyewitnesses that documented a Mauser rifle? How many news media organizations such as Walter Kronkite that reported a Mauser rifle was found? Or the police report that identified a Mauser rifle? Oh, and where is JFK's brain? Is it with the Mauser rifle? @@jetcat132
No Mauser was ever found, police freely admitted to misidentifying the unfamiliar rifle at first, big deal. As if somebody left the wrong kind of rifle lying around the crime scene for an army of police to find...
Yes, as if the brain would be lost, autopsy completely botched; Zapruder film altered and hidden for 12 years; lied to about CIA knowledge and relationship with Oswald; destruction of crime scene evidence (limo) within 2 days; 160 murdered witnesses, police officers, assassins, etc. to cover the tracks. As if …. You have said nothing concrete and cite no evidence because you have none. One of the cops that would not change his story that the rifle said “Mauser.” He was fired and later murdered, shot in the chest. The list of evidence is a Mile long with no rebuttable. Even the federal government changed its official position that there was probably a conspiracy to assassinated JFK.
Interesting just as a man who was a reporter at the time but as other comments say things have changed! Which this channel covers!
The first rifle they showed was not Oswald's rifle if you look the sling attaches to the side not underneath also the scope on the other rifle is longer an adjustable where Oswald's was a fixed for power everything that they said has been a lie the man they said that picked Oswald out of a lineup couldn't pick him out the first line up they had and only picked him out of the second line up after they had everybody State their name and where they worked this is all 100% bulshit
All nonsense. One rifle was found, one rifle was shown.
Oswald’s Carcano.
This guy is terribly misinformed especially what he claims of Oswald being a communist. Please do your homework.
😂He called himself a Marxist he loved Castro what would you call him.
He was a plant he was not a communist do your research and you’ll see. He was working with Guy Banister and a right wing group in order to infiltrate communist groups. This took place in New Orleans.
Sorry the official government narrative is absolutely wrong.
Exactly. When you realise that his childhood hero was Herbert Philbrick, it all makes sense. Philbrick's old TV series, "I Led Three Lives" explains it all. Available on this YT platform by the way.
Oswald was a CIA double agent. His Mother was once asked what he did for a living she replied he worked for the government.
@@randyharris3175If Oswald was a Marxist why did he return to the USA He was told by the CIA to get home as he was a CIA double agent he had to obey.
Not leaving this for the CIA... but I was always a conspiracy believer until I saw a reinactment on another channel and the wounds lined up with the Zapruder film only when from behind, except the body did not go back and to the left. The wound was right but the body went forward. They did also pull of the magic bullet shot where it did hit everything on Kennedy and Connely's dummies except his leg. I do wonder if the driver accelerated or broke during the shooting to affect momentum. I was also surprised they reinacted Oswald's walk from the Paine's to Tippet in under 15 minutes and Oswald going from the 6th floor to 2nd floor in 45seconds and not out of breath. The stuff that interests me now is John Armstrong's stuff, because there definitely was more than one Oswald.
Oswald is believed to have been impersonated at least 11 times. If you want to see some of his body doubles look no further than Larry "Curtis" Crafard and Michael Paine, Ruth Paine's CIA spook husband.
"they reinacted Oswald's walk from the Paine's to Tippet in under 15 minutes": That should be surprising considering it was from Oswald's boarding house, not Mrs. Paine's house, and of course the distance, about .04 miles, can be done if you walk at a brisk pace.
"Oswald going from the 6th floor to 2nd floor in 45seconds and not out of breath.": Where did you get 45 seconds? the time was estimated at between 75 to 90 seconds without even running. Why should he be out of breath walking DOWN the stairs, not up.
"there definitely was more than one Oswald.": Ha! You said "More than one Oswald" lol.
@@peterfraser9070 45 seconds is how long it took the guy in the reinactment, showing it was possible. The harder part is that Oswald's military records show him in two places multiple times (that is what I meant by 2 Oswalds) as one person can't be in two places. He also was working here in the US while he was also in Russia. That is hard for even the Flash...
Okay, so he could run down in 45 seconds , sure. There are some people who try to say that since no one saw him run down the stairs means he didn't do it. Pretty silly, huh?
But where did you get this info about him supposedly being in 2 places at once?
What does the JFK assassination, the OKC bombing and 9/11 have in common? The US government had to come up with a story to cover up what really happened.
Its funny, all these stories and all these books and nobody has a clue of any other involvement in the murder.
38:01 - That box in the window blocks the sniper's view of the spot on Elm street where JFK was when he was shot. Either that box was placed there AFTER the assassination ... OR the sniper used a different window (both of which may be true).
Pudentame ,, there was British 303 rifle found on roof of TSBD, indicating that there was shots fired from roof.
@@pjpaulamcpip3266There was no Enfield on the roof.
@@pjpaulamcpip3266 Who told you there was an Enfield on the roof…?
Show us the source.
"That box in the window blocks the sniper's view of the spot on Elm street where JFK was when he was shot. ": Absolutely incompetent, stupid and just plain wrong theory. you need to do a whole lot better, lol.
This poor guy hasn't got a fucking clue what happened that day.
I hope you don’t mean LBJ ! He knew he was not going to be on JFK’s second ticket.
I sincerely hope you know LBJ was a bully.
Looking in from Ireland, I think they allowed Oswald to let the authorities know about the Chicago plot and give him some false self importance, and then set him up nicely for Dallas.
Is that why he murdered a cop, was caught trying to shoot a second cop, observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing, lied to police about his whereabouts during the assassination, acted so smug he even convinced his own brother he was guilty, made no attempt to blow any conspiracy to anybody, and just shrugged a hollow, rambling reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"
Doctors said shots came from the front. It's a new report.
Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind.
Kennedy's exit wound plainly see exploding at the temple is consistent only with a shot from behind.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
Autopsy clearly demonstrates the shots came from behind.
Parkland doctors examined the autopsy photos on NOVA in 1988 and had no particular problem with them.
It makes no sense anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions with different guns.
@@aaronz7056Shots may have come from behind. How do you explain the entrance wound at the temple above the right eye?
@@greasyhitchball How do you explain that ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING HAPPENS AT THE BACK OF HIS HEAD in Zapruder's film?
Kennedy's massive exit wound plainly seen exploding at the right temple is consistent only with a shot from behind.
Connally's said the shots came from behind.
Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them.
Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
It's obviously vastly implausible anybody would ever assume in a million years they would successfully frame this on a lone assassin from behind the limo as they shot Kennedy in the face with a different gun.
@aaronz7056 Watch, "What the Doctors Saw". You'll forget everything you thought you knew. The Doctors agree that the head wound was in the occipital area not the temporal area of the brain. Look at the photos from Trauma Room 1 and compare to autopsy photos. They look nothing alike. Entrance wound above the right eye that blew out the back of the head. Zapruder film and autopsy photos doctored to support government claim of one shooter, lone nut.
@@aaronz7056 Watch; JFK: What the Doctors Knew. You can forget everything you think you know.
Lier
Anyone who researches this knows oswald didn’t do it. Anyone who says he did it is an employee of the government.
Anyone who makes a comment that paranoid is typing it from inside a concrete bunker in the back yard.
Reading conspiracy books is not research. Get that thru yer head, lol.
hmmm Oswald hiding behind boxes so nobody randomly coming for books could see him, and right after the shots, in the most critical time walks with the gun over the whole floor to oposit corner to leave the gun right by the elevator :D
And the paper sack... folded down as it obviously originally was.. looks just out of his pocket ..
hmmm...do you know the correct info?
@@peterfraser9070 info about what? I lost context since i watched this charade. you asking about the weapon "hidden" to be found 1m from the stairs, ..changed name and nationality in 3 days... or the paper bag to oack the weapon which Lee did not bring with him that day from Fraizers car to work?
You know the press was right there on the 6th floor when police were searching, right? You apparently think the DPD were part of your conspiracy; do u think the plan was to let the press know they found a Mauser, then switch rifles? Oswald owned a Carcano, unless you think the co. in Chicago was in on it, and it was the Carcano that was found - as is even visible in the film, lol.
He made that unusual Thursday trip to Paine's house, where the rifle's in the garage. The next day he carries a long slender package to work; and the rifle is no longer in the garage but at the TSBD; and there's an empty long paper bag there too.
Gee, I wonder what was in the paper bag he carried?
You see, youre the detective, all the correct assumptions about what i think and who did what exactly.... wow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a poor presentation. Quite surprising for this series, they’re usually pretty good. This is beyond lightweight.
Brutally inaccurate. (Does he know there’s been decades of research and publishing on the assassination?) This was like mediocre high school ‘book report’ level of presentation. Someone show him how to use a computer/internet.
I dont know if this channel/museum is a disinfo op or just happy for these people to go along with their cover up. Lolol
It was a setup plain and simple.
Juat like the Oswald axted alone nuts will say he also killed JD Tippit.
When Tippit had two different types of bullets in his body according to the autopsy.
Tippit did not have two different bullets in his body.
The rounds were badly deformed due to Oswald’s revolver having been bore modified, so they were difficult to match.
He did use two different manufacturer’s ammo, but all of the rounds came out of Oswald’s gun, proven by the positive match of the shell casings recovered at the scene.
the stupidest and most delusional theory is that there were several people who clearly and firmly ID Oswald as the gunman.
That rifle never fired just there for setup
Oh it fired alright, and it killed a president. Just asked the 375 people in Dealey Plaza that day.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's Carcano.
@@aaronz7056yep. Only after the PDP had the rifle in their possession. Perfect for creating their frame around Oswald.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x Wrong. Again.
Just selling misinformation!
You don’t like the fact that he is not buying into one of the hundreds of unproven conspiracy theories. Remind us all, which of the hundreds varying theories is actually the correct one?
@@ath7616there was a military style triangulated firing zone. Someone in the dal tec building. Possibly the tsbd. The grassy knoll and the south knoll on the opposite side of dealey plasa.
Just selling misinformation!: It doesn't look anything like that at all.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x "there was a military style triangulated firing zone.: Yet only Oswald in the TSBD fired any shots - the 3 that were fired that day. Your theory doesn't bother to explain why these other invisible shooters failed to fire any shots - or if they did, how they missed and got hold of disappearing bullets in the first place. Of well, back to the ol' drawing board.
@@peterfraser9070 there were more than just 3 shots fired. Do your homework.
..This is all bunk...
Unfortunately this guy is stuck in his own naivety !!! He lost credibility with the often mention of Oswald … 😢
What blows me away is after the throat shot you see limmo driver looking right at the umbrella guy pumping his umbrella right beside him a man steps to the curb with the fist pump.an limmo quickly slows to a split second for last 2 shots then limmo driver looks back then he speeds away. Many believe with an initial glance at the zapruder film the limmo driver fired last fatal shot. Never convince me the limmo driver was not in on the hit sn also not convinced it was a lone wolf Oswald 3 shots 6 floor book blg
Greer watched the umbrella man.
First i've heard of that.
Must see for myself.
Thanks.
P.S. Jim Marrs pointed out that the raised fist means ceasefire in military terms.
Come on son, there are enough crazies and deep state types out there already trying to muck up the truth. We don't need the insanity of thinking the driver was firing shots. LOL
You’re all batshit crazy
Looking forward to you explaining how you safely approach Kennedy's own Secret Service agents and persuade them to help you murder their own President. Needless to say the idea the driver shot him is beyond idiotic.
And you approach Kennedy's own Secret Service and persuade them to help murder their own President for you HOW, exactly?
He is more of a stenographer than a reporter. Whatever the authorities tell him he believes.
He was obsolete by then. Tape recorders were old hat by 1963 and had become quite affordable. Alas no video of Oswald's interview, alas not even a few feet of magnetic tape off an old reel-to-reel tape recorder. They clearly didn't want Oswald on tape... Tape could easily be copied and leaked. What was it about Oswald they were terrified might become public??
@@jimmycricket5366 He knew too much. Once Oswald figured out that the organization to which he had shown absolute fealty was simply using him as a patsy he had to be silenced permanently. Ruby accomplished this with an assist from the DPD.
Greetings...parifin tests concluded that said ACCUSED assassin LHO did NOT fire ANY firearm on 11/22/63..🤔
Greetings: Oswald tested positive on his hands and it's right there in the Commission exhibits.
@@aaronz7056yes, the good old Warren Commission. That dog can't hunt. Go to the JFK archives. Damn dude, you're selling but nobodys buying.
@@aaronz7056tested positive for nitrates. Guess we're Oswald worked? Yep in a book depository. Carrying freshly printed books and boxes littered with nitrates from the printing press. Duh.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8xThe paraffin test was considered unreliable even before the assassination. The DPD likely just gave it as a matter of course.
It doesn’t prove innocence, guilt, or shit for that matter.
Duh.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x And guess what? Another sixty years from now it will still be Oswald eternally guilty of the assassination of Kennedy and murder of Tippit.
This guy has been sleeping for 60 years. this is who's story NOT history. He call this "reporting"???
Lol. Yes. This arron dude.
Lol. Yes. This arron dude: You seem to be basically illiterate.
He had it in pieces and put it together on the 6th floor. He was taken to work by a coworker that day. He saw the bag in the backseat and questioned Oswald. Thats when Oswald said curtain rods.
Yes, the magic curtain rods that of course disappeared.
Frazier's mother was standing at the kitchen window. She saw Oswald, and stated he had nothing in his hands except his lunch packet which he put in his pocket.
He had already put them on the back seat of Frazier's car.@@user-ny6lo9vv8x
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x Because it was already on the back seat of Frazier’s car. It was in the car when Frazier got in.
@@jetcat132you were there right? strange how nobody else that day saw this "package"... only Frazier and his sister. not even the mother who saw him arriving. nobody from the Paine house to the Frazier house saw a package. nobody on the street nobody from a window in their homes. NOBODY, not even colleagues at the TSBD. it was a fabricated illusion.
Lots of lies and good info
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Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy
That has been proven the women on the stairs.
Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy: Dopey theory.
Dude put me to sleep
How would anyone know if you were asleep or awake?
They covered up the crime and thought people were stupid
They covered up the crime and thought people were stupid: Ironically, it was the original conspiracy people, like Mark Lane, who covered up the truth of the crime and fabricated a sensationalistic conspiracy instead - and you suckers have been believing it ever since! smh
Never claimed I knew every detail and everyone involved Only that LBJ wanted to be president and played a huge part in it The full truth will never be revealed
In that case we look forward to you presenting your ironclad evidence for that.
@@aaronz7056Jackie Kennedy, the eve before the 22nd November at the Texas hotel, stated that she had never heard JFK and LBJ fight tooth and nail about getting Connally out of that seat infront of JFK's death limo. Jackie made that statement. It's in the archives. I've seen it and read it.
It proves exactly nothing. LBJ was never investigated. But it is suspect.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x B.S.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x Rubbish.
Oswald got the job at the book depository on a fluke.....for a temporary position. So that means his friend and the boss at the depository was in on it too and that constitutes a CONSPIRACY!!!!!!
Ah, that doesn't follow logically at all.
@@aaronz7056it's called thinking. Something you're not equipped to do.
@@user-ny6lo9vv8x Have you got one single constructive thing to actually say or is just heaving childish insults like that settles the matter all you are capable of? We look forward to you now providing your ironclad evidence Mr. Truly had been safely and successfully approached by some coup and persuaded to make himself a conspirator in murder and treason.
@@aaronz7056 no no no. Not 'WE" are looking forward, you are looking forward to some evidence. Ok. Here it is. Go read the documents available at the archives. There you have it.
@@aaronz7056you have a lot of nerve about Scolding other people- About calling others names!
I have personally read you call people clowns for starters-
SO
Why don't you get a life and find something else to do with your time?
Your song and dance
Is just
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How many of you would keep your weapons in someone else's garage in a blankie? Lee was not even living there. Too many oddities in this set up.
What’s so odd about it? All of the Oswald’s belongings were stored at the Paine’s.
Oswald lived in like a tiny room, and he was still married to Marina, though separated. It’s not hard to believe she would have helped store some of his belongings, and he used to spend weekends with her and the kids at the Paine’s house.
Don't listen stuff be said
THIS IS BULLSHIT.
This is such rubbish… does anyone still believe this misinformation.
It's sad when someone holds on to hope this long. Your government is responsible one hundred percent, get used to itm