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  • @jeremykamel9655
    @jeremykamel9655 Před 3 lety +97

    I’m been a diesel mechanic for 20 years I’ve never seen that. Bloody brilliant!

    • @SuperDirk1965
      @SuperDirk1965 Před 3 lety +5

      I wonder where you went to school learning how to be a mechanic. This is basic stuff in any teaching programme.

    • @mickcarson8504
      @mickcarson8504 Před 3 lety +7

      @@SuperDirk1965
      He meant it in a different way. He meant, he hadn't seen one of these types.

    • @SuperDirk1965
      @SuperDirk1965 Před 3 lety

      @@cptthumper6281 He said he's been a mechanic for twenty years, not since yesterday

    • @hydraulics
      @hydraulics Před 3 lety +6

      35 years for me. Today is my first time ever seeing an engine with this type of starter. I've seen 6V, 12V, 24V, pup engines and air starters. But never seen a spring starter before. Nothing in the red seal curriculum and justifiably so because for the most part, these don't exist. Maybe military applications... dunno - worked on lots of coast guard engines and LAV's none had this.

    • @jeremykamel9655
      @jeremykamel9655 Před 3 lety +8

      @@SuperDirk1965 I attended Bates Technical College for Diesel and Heavy Equipment Repair in Tacoma, WA, USA. I went for 2 years. I passed at the top of my class. Seen plenty of air starters and of course direct and gear reduction electric starters and pony motors. The course covered marine, generator, construction, and road. It covered gasoline, propane, natural gas, and of course diesel.
      I’ve worked for a Caterpillar dealer, a school district, and on multiple marine cargo termnials.
      I’ve never seen one of those starters. So maybe it was basic in your program but it wasn’t covered in mine. 🤷‍♂️ I’m not sure what else to tell you.

  • @mickcarson8504
    @mickcarson8504 Před 3 lety +20

    This is in my opinion a very good idea that should be adapted to 4x4s that do rough country trecking where there are no way to start the engine if the batteries run flat due to using it to run night camp lights. 🙂👍

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah it seems like a clever emergency device. Like compression/push start but for when you can't get it going fast enough this would be the bees knees.

    • @joshuaatkins5197
      @joshuaatkins5197 Před rokem +2

      Exactly what im here for. Researching for that exact purpose of incorporating it to my expedition vehicle. I know a manual transmission works too but moving the rig isnt always an option by yourself in the boonies.

  • @52templar
    @52templar Před 3 lety +6

    I saw and worked on these diesel engines on hd41 bulldozer and many other machinery in nort pole during the 70. Some had air startors. .some spring startors and some électric startors. It all depend of the startor location . Whent the temperatures were minus 30, the spring startor were very efficient.

  • @cobymortin1091
    @cobymortin1091 Před 3 lety +44

    Love that they used a detroit

  • @arm279145
    @arm279145 Před 3 lety +8

    honestly i want one of these as a back up starter for my truck. just run an extrention for the crank through the inner fender wall like a lowering crank for a spare tire does with the rear bumper, and make the starter lever a hole with a hex key slot. all you'd need would be a tire iron to crank it, and a special rod with a 90 degree turn and a hex key at the end, like an awning pull rod. not hard to come by. then, never worry about starting a truck if the battery goes dead ever again.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 8 měsíci +2

      Same, even the starter can blow, so having this would be bulletproof! :)

  • @Mb198129
    @Mb198129 Před 3 lety +8

    This is used on Marine emergency generators as a secondary means of start in case the Battery fails . Many ships have this type .

    • @catsupchutney
      @catsupchutney Před 2 měsíci

      I've seen pneumatic accumulators on old USCG cutters. As I recall it took hours to pump enough pressure to turn over a 12 cylinder engine, but it was better than nothing if your electrical power was out.

  • @ianboard3555
    @ianboard3555 Před 3 lety +28

    Bigger version of the starters they had on lawn mowers when I was a kid.

    • @rickyjohnson4717
      @rickyjohnson4717 Před 3 lety

      I remember the hand crank on top of the motor you had to wind, them turn a knot on the side. Usually had to do it multiple times.

    • @ianboard3555
      @ianboard3555 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rickyjohnson4717 Oh man, I remember those. Endless cranking hoping this time will be the one. We had a rope starter, which seemed more straightforward to me.

    • @anthonyxuereb792
      @anthonyxuereb792 Před 3 lety

      We had one, Kirby-Lawson was the make if I remember correctly back in the 60s /70s Australia and the motor was a mustard type yellow. You'd start winding with one hand but soon be using both as the spring loaded up. The handle was hinged, unfold to extend to wind up and fold it before starting.

  • @66oggy
    @66oggy Před 3 lety +17

    One of the first basics on using a combination spanner ( Wrench in the US )..... Only use the open end when you cannot get the ring end on...... That means try the ring end first, but at least he didn't use mole grips I suppose.

  • @johnneytilley4165
    @johnneytilley4165 Před 3 lety +3

    Nice to have had one of those on cold mornings cranking over the old lister by hand

  • @After_Tech_Industries
    @After_Tech_Industries Před 3 lety +6

    This thing is about to get algorithm'd

  • @Rebecca_The_Dragon
    @Rebecca_The_Dragon Před 3 lety +2

    This is some Leonardo Da Vinci level tech here, still being used in modern day, so cool.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Před 3 lety

      I wonder how long one of these suckers lasts. I could see using it as a regular starter if it had a gear mechanism to wind the spring slowly as the engine ran until it reached tension. That might make it too complex/expensive compared to a regular electric starter. Not sure if these are only used for massive diesel engines.

  • @teamember344576
    @teamember344576 Před 4 lety +20

    May I recommend a ratchet,extension and socket

  • @konasteph
    @konasteph Před 3 lety +1

    I love the inertia starters even better..is more of a workout and start a tank engine or an airplane engine with those wow sound effects!

  • @Greenmachine305
    @Greenmachine305 Před 3 lety +52

    I could have done without 2 minutes of watching you attach it.

    • @raymondthumper2267
      @raymondthumper2267 Před 3 lety +2

      Ah, but you would have missed the fact that this engineer uses an adjustable spanner to correctly torque his attachments. Also note that you need to rev up cold engines just after start to keep them healthy.

    • @cooliobob1274
      @cooliobob1274 Před 3 lety +1

      I could have done without you bitching...

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Před 3 lety

      Could have done without seeing this idiotic comment.

  • @crazyfvck
    @crazyfvck Před 4 lety +5

    That is AWESOME! I was going to go with an air starter for my project, but I may have to buy one of your spring starters instead! It may not sound as cool as an air starter, but it would eliminate the need for an air tank, lines, and valves. I can't believe that I've never seen these before :)

    • @nFlames2
      @nFlames2 Před 4 lety

      I found like 2 or 3 reman air staters I'll be putting them on FB Market Place on 05/14/ 20 in Bryan Tx. I'll price them at $500 or Best Offer if your still looking for one.

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy Před 4 lety

      Is it in a vehicle? Might be embarrassing if you ever stall the engine in traffic 😂

    • @jerrykinnin7941
      @jerrykinnin7941 Před 3 lety +1

      @@deezelfairy so don't stall the vehicle.

  • @grahamc887
    @grahamc887 Před 3 měsíci

    Remember these from my days at sea. Trying to start a Lister emergency fire pump most Sunday afternoons. I only wish it had been as easy to start the cold damp Lister as this engine was😀. Great when it worked, I was always grateful that I never had to use the Emergency fire pump for real as I was never confident it was going to start. Still it was a safer way to start the engine than the starting handle in the end of the crankshaft that other small Listers had.

  • @billmoran3219
    @billmoran3219 Před 3 lety +1

    What good is it other then a stationary engine? Is that the same principle as to what they used to use on old aircraft.

  • @THET1916
    @THET1916 Před rokem

    Thank you for the thorough demonstration.

  • @MrAvant123
    @MrAvant123 Před 3 lety +2

    Great idea not far removed from on some WW2 aircraft that were designed to be started with no ground equipment when (fragile) aviation batteries were flat

  • @jackblack9208
    @jackblack9208 Před 3 lety +2

    It's a great idea but what about cold starts or engines that don't fire off that quickly? Or what if you have to replace the fuel filters or injectors and have to spin it over a good bit to get the fuel system primed?

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Před 3 lety

      I'm guessing this is an emergency backup or something.

    • @janvisser2223
      @janvisser2223 Před rokem

      The engine can be barred over with the starter (the mechanic showed that feature in the video)
      Cold starts: you may end up with several attempts, but that can be quickly done.

  • @madmax2069
    @madmax2069 Před 3 lety +2

    Don't mind me, I'm just winding up my 2 stroke.

  • @user-pd9mk9vi4z
    @user-pd9mk9vi4z Před 10 měsíci

    Wow 😳😳😲😲 wonderful 👍👍 tech idea 💡💡💡💡💡 brother

  • @MechanicTipss
    @MechanicTipss Před 2 lety

    Its my first time knowledge ..Good information video

  • @jeffreysheldrake8126
    @jeffreysheldrake8126 Před 3 lety

    These are ideal for remote travellers that may have no back up or occasional use machinery. Awesome. Quiet a change to the old Inertia starters on Tanks and trucks

    • @joshuaatkins5197
      @joshuaatkins5197 Před rokem

      I'd take an inertia starter if I could find one that would work on my rig.
      Hell, I'd use a Coffman starter if I could make it work on my truck.

  • @arsaeterna4285
    @arsaeterna4285 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm thinking to myself
    does this mean we could replace modern batteries with this manual starter?
    have the electronics run off the alternator while the engine is running?
    that would be interesting to keep in mind

    • @nextlevelgamez9243
      @nextlevelgamez9243 Před 3 lety +1

      No. Without batteries the alternator will not last.

    • @joshuaatkins5197
      @joshuaatkins5197 Před rokem

      Dont be fooled. I run my jeep all the time without a battery. Bump start because its a manual and drive it fine.
      Now, you idiots that bought cars/trucks with too much electronics (read-amenities) or auto transmissions (read- lazy or ignorant) deserve the tow bill.😂

  • @N8-T
    @N8-T Před 2 lety

    That's the coolest thing I've seen in a while

  • @endprg6477
    @endprg6477 Před 3 lety

    Интересно, что там за конструкция? Пружина?

  • @Elbribon1
    @Elbribon1 Před 11 měsíci

    A four inline 53 or a 71?

  • @muhammadnur2759
    @muhammadnur2759 Před 3 lety

    where can you buy such a starter and for how much?

  • @LeDaart1
    @LeDaart1 Před 3 měsíci

    Same type reduction configuration as used in the Lewmar Mamba autopilot.

  • @Varunkm110
    @Varunkm110 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks bro it was useful

  • @os475
    @os475 Před 3 lety +2

    How many seconds does it crank? I wonder about cold start conditions? 🤔

    • @bonusnudges
      @bonusnudges Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve had engines with those things on and you barely get one turn of the engine . If you have to wind it over any your stuffed

    • @grahamc887
      @grahamc887 Před 3 měsíci

      Cold damp starts can be a nightmare. In my experience the starter turns the engine less than a full turn if the engine fires first time it is a great system, but when it fails to start you have to start over again. Most small engines I came across with this system had a “favourite” position to start from and if you were lucky some had painted a mark on the flywheel to give the best chance of starting.

  • @ngkhuihiang9254
    @ngkhuihiang9254 Před 9 měsíci

    Where we can buy it?

  • @josecampos2469
    @josecampos2469 Před 3 lety

    Es muy bueno x que no necesita electridad, segun lo q estoy viendo. Gracias, muy budn futuro.

  • @joshgreen2164
    @joshgreen2164 Před 3 lety

    Thats genius level.

  • @reverendlawrence7584
    @reverendlawrence7584 Před 3 lety

    Some old tanks and trucks had inertia start which I believe was like flywheel stored power

    • @johnsawyer2516
      @johnsawyer2516 Před 3 lety

      The Spitfire off ww2 had that type of starter, great if it fired on the first try, if not wind the flywheel up again. It took 2 men to get it up to speed

  • @user-wq3qc8hh9f
    @user-wq3qc8hh9f Před 3 lety

    Сколько ориентировочно стоит такой стартер?

  • @michaelsorrentino7409
    @michaelsorrentino7409 Před 3 lety

    In s,florida they had hyraulic starters on the pumps for the sugarcane fields.engine were usualy 671 jimmies!!

    • @raygale4198
      @raygale4198 Před 3 lety

      Yes I've worked with Hydro starters on GM 92 series diesels, they have a gear pump on the engine that charges the reservoir while the engine is running. As well as a hand operated pump to charge the reservoir if it loses pressure. Often used in flammable atmospheres like oil rigs or gas fields.

  • @korvanderwal5786
    @korvanderwal5786 Před 3 lety

    Do you have one for a fordson dexta

  • @waynejsampson7162
    @waynejsampson7162 Před 3 lety

    Starters on trucks aren't generally accessible like that one but great idea.

  • @stevecarter529
    @stevecarter529 Před 3 lety

    Used these many years ago to start Lister HR3`s and 4`s. They were absolutely useless for the job intended. The type I used had a tendency to jam in the primed position. The amount that had to be sent back to the manufacturers for repair. I believe the starter had to be cast into concrete to take the spring force, this may have been untrue and put out there by the starter manufacturer.
    To bleed the diesel system there was a lever position that allowed the starter to turn and not prime. After many handle rotations sometimes it would work other times not.
    I hope the technology has got better.

  • @tomthumb5445
    @tomthumb5445 Před 3 lety

    Very nice, but what is the application today? electric starter much cheaper and easier to operate. I could see this is a backup.

  • @josephgador238
    @josephgador238 Před 3 lety

    where can i buy this spring starter?

  • @trivialinsignific
    @trivialinsignific Před rokem

    thanks for the demo Sir !

  • @moquinlocuaz5974
    @moquinlocuaz5974 Před 3 lety +5

    You should make one that reloads the spring inside before you shut it off to save time for next start

    • @mindeloman
      @mindeloman Před 3 lety +7

      I could be wrong but I think long term storage of a loaded spring isn't a good idea. It weakens the spring.

    • @seancalcote6634
      @seancalcote6634 Před 3 lety

      A cold day with an ether baby motor and you wont have a burnt out starter. Youd have a bum arm

  • @yerlanbissembayev5554
    @yerlanbissembayev5554 Před 3 lety +2

    Где можно купить?

  • @yogeshkumar7402
    @yogeshkumar7402 Před rokem

    Today, every engine have need two starters(one battery starter & second spring starter) thanks

  • @electriccoconut
    @electriccoconut Před 3 lety

    Didn't show the actual lever position before the engine started. There two actions to make to start the engine which are never shown in detail.

  • @Bbonno
    @Bbonno Před 3 lety

    Knowing these things exist takes the magic out of other engine starts. Are these excessively expensive or something?

  • @smokerules0021
    @smokerules0021 Před 3 lety +5

    What about cold start

    • @vmsysprog
      @vmsysprog Před 3 lety +2

      My thoughts exactly. I’ve watched a number of vids regarding this type of starter and I would bet that almost all of them were warm starts.

  • @stasstas7818
    @stasstas7818 Před 3 lety +1

    Для хорошо настроенного двигателя.

  • @_monti142
    @_monti142 Před 4 lety +3

    very cool

  • @carlthornton3076
    @carlthornton3076 Před 2 lety

    Very Good!..

  • @commiessuckballs2287
    @commiessuckballs2287 Před 3 lety

    For people with a strong back and a dislike of batteries, lol! That's awesome though. I wonder how many start cycles they last?

  • @ericpham8205
    @ericpham8205 Před 3 lety

    this is safe because air compressor make pressure can be cooldown by thermo then no pressure remain on air starter

  • @Eritreaah
    @Eritreaah Před měsícem

    Starter, Battery, charging system and alternators are getting out.

  • @ronernst3991
    @ronernst3991 Před 3 lety

    You need a spring wrench to run them bolts in.

  • @codygardner7185
    @codygardner7185 Před 3 lety +3

    Imagine if all cars started like this cars would be stolen all the time 😆✌

    • @FireX7_211
      @FireX7_211 Před 3 lety +3

      Ignition switch has to be on to start it

    • @deepsleep7822
      @deepsleep7822 Před 3 lety

      @CG: not likely, a thief isn't going to take the time to crank one of these things up. And if the engine is cold, it could possibly take multiple attempts.

  • @farhadtorkaman6282
    @farhadtorkaman6282 Před 3 lety

    Bravo , Here we go 👌👍🛠🔩🌷

  • @RakeshKumar-fz5jz
    @RakeshKumar-fz5jz Před 2 lety

    I watch it in CZcams videos, I can't imagine what is this, how I get it for my #ROUSTON 6YDX ENGINE

  • @eliezertorres6866
    @eliezertorres6866 Před 3 lety

    Woow very nice

  • @peanutbutter2597
    @peanutbutter2597 Před 3 lety +1

    Yep can we say “lawn boy “ ?

  • @martinroldan7073
    @martinroldan7073 Před 3 lety

    Amazing

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 Před 3 lety

    Excellent

  • @jackscott1036
    @jackscott1036 Před 3 lety +3

    nice detroit

  • @NhatCoKim
    @NhatCoKim Před rokem

    Giá bao nhiêu vậy bạn

  • @user-ub9nn8ni3s
    @user-ub9nn8ni3s Před 3 lety +1

    Вот бы мне такой стартер на трактор т 25 и на мтз

  • @pipespb
    @pipespb Před 3 lety +1

    Зачем к концу видео на станине появился аккумулятор?

    • @agregat-eo8if
      @agregat-eo8if Před 3 lety

      Это он со своей машины снял,чтоб не нарезали,пока он мясорубку крутит.

  • @user-qj7gh7sy3t
    @user-qj7gh7sy3t Před 3 lety

    Круто изобрели велосипед!

  • @summerequinocio9171
    @summerequinocio9171 Před 3 měsíci

    and this device could also be powered by a battery-powered screwdriver!

  • @danydavidgamboa
    @danydavidgamboa Před 3 lety

    me encanta muy practico

  • @danahadiana5136
    @danahadiana5136 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice

  • @hansknutson2327
    @hansknutson2327 Před 3 lety

    I want one !

  • @K9River
    @K9River Před 3 lety

    I bet using a cordless drill would make short work of that.

  • @sighpocket5
    @sighpocket5 Před 3 lety

    Nice,!!!

  • @user-ei2it1hh4i
    @user-ei2it1hh4i Před 2 měsíci

    Зверь, двигатель двухтактный дизель ЯАЗ 206

  • @simonharris1804
    @simonharris1804 Před 3 lety

    Hi IPU Can they be made to fit a cat D47U dozer

  • @benchamp6793
    @benchamp6793 Před 3 lety

    Половину ролика закручивает три болта -вот это круто!

  • @SOU6900
    @SOU6900 Před 3 lety +1

    Got one that can start a 20 cylinder 710? 😉

    • @assassinlexx1993
      @assassinlexx1993 Před 3 lety +1

      They do . You just have to crank it for two hours to get it ready😆🙈

    • @Panghal2017
      @Panghal2017 Před 3 lety

      @@assassinlexx1993 😂😂😂😂

  • @pussycat6469
    @pussycat6469 Před 2 lety

    Ww2 zero had this type of wind up starter

  • @punkerpanda131369
    @punkerpanda131369 Před 2 lety

    This starter only works on an engine like the 671 or simmilar. Detroits that are in good condition are famously easy to start and they are two stroke. Show one of these starters working on a 4 stroke diesel.

  • @matthewhoffman9242
    @matthewhoffman9242 Před 3 lety

    Are these made for 2-71 detroit's?

  • @skidlyane
    @skidlyane Před 3 lety

    2х тактный, насос-форсунка.😎🤣💪✌

    • @user-6x6truck
      @user-6x6truck Před 3 lety +1

      Родственник нашего Яаз-204

  • @user-fb6ij5mw3k
    @user-fb6ij5mw3k Před 3 lety +2

    кароч, мотайте на 4.00

  • @hongpham4702
    @hongpham4702 Před 3 lety

    Rất quý kĩ thụât cơ bản cho mọi ngừơi.

  • @H4rleyBoy
    @H4rleyBoy Před 3 lety

    Then off for a kipper tie.

  • @wherret_TLT
    @wherret_TLT Před 3 lety

    Отличная идея, но неудачное видео.

  • @arslanahmad2548
    @arslanahmad2548 Před 3 lety

    How could I own it......

  • @maxx_xak
    @maxx_xak Před 3 lety

    Что камеру от маховика отвели???

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors Před 3 lety

    Why not try it on a very cold engine, instead of one that was just turned off.

    • @raygale4198
      @raygale4198 Před 3 lety

      With a healthy GM it wouldn't matter much, the one in the video was very tired.

  • @SagucuTegin
    @SagucuTegin Před 3 lety

    Tiger Tank starter -1943

  • @tatcheungli1040
    @tatcheungli1040 Před 3 lety

    👍 電池都免去…☣

  • @samw2195
    @samw2195 Před 3 lety +1

    Umm nice rev the nuts off the motor before the oil pressure is up top class fitter !

    • @tandemwings4733
      @tandemwings4733 Před 3 lety +1

      It'll cope. There's oil everywhere in it. Nothing's dry, and it's a 2 stroke, so it's going that hard anyway.

    • @thomaskarlstrom4815
      @thomaskarlstrom4815 Před 3 lety

      @@tandemwings4733 2 stroke diesels are lubed by pressure, has cam and valves, just like a 4 stroke.

    • @thomaskarlstrom4815
      @thomaskarlstrom4815 Před 3 lety

      2 strokes sounds like they are revving to the moon and back.

    • @tandemwings4733
      @tandemwings4733 Před 3 lety

      @@thomaskarlstrom4815 You're very smart, I can tell. Why do you feel the need to explain something so blatantly obvious?

    • @thomaskarlstrom4815
      @thomaskarlstrom4815 Před 3 lety

      @@tandemwings4733 From you´r comment i assumed that yuo thougt the lube was in the fuel, like a gasoline twostorke. "There's oil everywhere in it. Nothing's dry" I ment no offense, just trying to be informative.

  • @Alex462047
    @Alex462047 Před 3 lety +1

    It wouldn't be much use to me in a -27C frost. The beauty of an electric starter then is you can wind for up to 10 seconds, stop, then begin again. You'd have to rewind this after 2-3 seconds of use, it would be a complete pain in the backside.
    In summer, it looks like a funky idea.

  • @cbreeze5444
    @cbreeze5444 Před 2 lety

    Whoa

  • @jamescline6937
    @jamescline6937 Před 3 lety +1

    Damned good thing thats not on a grnerator that needed to start yesterday

  • @cemalyenigocmen7299
    @cemalyenigocmen7299 Před 3 lety

    Motor bozuk çalışıyor enjektörpompaları elden geçirin

  • @B81Mack
    @B81Mack Před 4 lety +7

    What's with the sirens?
    Is this guy in a nuclear power plant during a meltdown??

  • @francovance1
    @francovance1 Před 2 měsíci

    On a proper engine too!!

  • @user-hw8ly9eg4z
    @user-hw8ly9eg4z Před 3 lety

    這那有在賣