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- Four siblings are desperate to change their family dynamic for the better. But Coach and his older brother Sean seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum and the dynamic is tearing this family asunder.
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The oldest brother Sean says he got the most "ABUSE" but when it was happening to his siblings he referred to it as tough love or discipline.
Because allot of times he'd whoop them or hand out punishment as the eldest once he was 14 he was running things that's how it is they go out and work while he hold the home down so chores dinner homework it all fell on him my sister was the same way but I don't fault her for that I appreciate the save honestly my momma use to real deal stump us down 😢 and my sister use to explain to us like look if you don't do x y z I can't help you
Im Jamaican, we are definitely raised differently then if we were in the states but beating on a young girl is wild regardless of your culture. Why should she be subjected to abuse in the name of tradition. That man is an abuser and the oldest has Stockholm Syndrome.
You hit the nail on the head. He needs therapy himself. Narcissistic parents lead to this dynamic, sadly.
Thank you for saying this. I'm Black American so they talkin about the standards I go by, and I usually appreciate other cultures' takes on things but I cannot fathom beating my kids- son or daughter- like some mf that owe me money on the street. I've seen what it's done to my aunts & uncles and older cousins as well as my fellow millennial cousins, and it didn't make them rich, doctors, successful athletes, humanitarians, superheroes, or anything people think this behavior will attain. It just helped them learn & perpetuate the generational/childhood trauma and emotional detachment.
It wasn’t always like that- I was raised in the 80’s and My parents raised us traditional We got our buts whooped. This all changed after the crack epidemic but my parents were good traditionalAA parents who kept us in line and stayed in our business
the eldest son is MANIPULATIVE, hes supporting his father's abuse because he sees himself next in line. he holds the most power out of the siblings since hes the eldest, he wants to control and abuse his siblings the same way he saw his father did
I don't know why you guys are blaming the eldest son. He is a victim as well. His actions are learnt behaviour. He loves his siblings, but he has been put in a position where he can not express that, he only knows what he was thought. He doesn't know any better. Being the first child in a Haitian/ Traditional African family is tough, you are saddled with parenting responsibilities at a very young age. It's sad that the style of parenting he learned was physical abuse.He needs help, too, not your judgement. Their father is the manipulator.
@@diza1926 we all get that but he knows it’s not right he was abused and became the abuser it’s common but NOT okay or an excuse
ok and he apoligized and saw his wrongs at the end of the day they all were victims
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@@diza1926his behavior was taught but he’s grown with kids and should know that a man should never put his hands on a female especially NOT his sister, that shouldve been his first apology. Also, idk the values of their household but the eldest son had a child out of wedlock yet the daughter can’t watch a tv show that showed men kissing? that doesn’t even make sense. everything they said that he said didn’t sound like everyone was putting him out there to blame, he just IS ANOTHER ONE TO BLAME!
he did*
Parents need to realise that abuse doesn't equal discipline
That brother is severely brainwashed and they need to distance themselves from him until he gets the help he needs.
I agree and I feel bad for his child that he has
I love how the 2 brothers put KT in the middle to protect her while on the couch.
Why does the oldest brother get to co-parent his siblings? Wildly inappropriate.
Hatian culture
It’s not really actually, there’s different kinds of cultures outside of a traditional American one. You were raised to believe certain things and so were they.
@@joem7787even the older brother is complaining about being put in that position
That's our culture for you. As the oldest sibling I remember people outside my family would wonder why I don't discipline my siblings and I said cause I'm not their parent TF.
In many cultures your older siblings are your second parents. Its inappropriate for you and your culture.
I honestly feel like the older brother is trying to “outshine” his siblings and try to make his father “proud” in a way. He’s definitely trying to be the favorite child or something because there is NO WAY he believes those actions are disciplines.
@@MyaVatMiiso beating children is ok?
He is not trying to outshine his siblings. He is trying to live up to his father’s expectations, even though he’s hurting them in the process. Remember they are Haitian, and they have different ways of parenting than Americans
@@her2c4t that doesn't make it right or reasonable
@@MyaVatMiiliterally the reason why I REFUSE to date Haitian men. I’ve seen and heard way too many things that aren’t healthy. It’s very sad. I respect other cultures, but I def don’t agree.
@@egujugapupfh7543doesn’t make it right but it’s the sad truth 😕
Good Lorď...if he's like this with his siblings he needs to be watched with his son...
i don’t even think he’s with the mother by the language he used.
My husband went through this very thing & he's Haitian. He overcame it but the hurt is still there. 🇭🇹😢
Wow I’m
So sorry to hear that and I’m
Glad he overcame it I hope he truly
Heals one day
The brother making excuses for his Father’s and his violent abusive behavior is sad😢
King came on the show and said “Wont gaslight me “ 🤣🤣💜💜🔥🔥
I bet how conversation goes with Sean, is exactly how it is with their father.
Culture should not be abusive
I saw “Be patient.” “Have patience.” , as they too can leave like he did one day. I don’t think he had any intention of actually speaking to his father about his actions. I don’t think he has it in him to confront the dad because he left before the abuse stopped knowing his brothers and sister will bare all of the abuse with him gone.
Got so much respect for King for standing firmly ❤️ he held his ground and wouldn’t be shaken from it. It’s a lot of trauma in this family I think they definitely should go to therapy wish them the best ❤❤
My haitian friends and i always talk about how similar haitian and asian upbringings were. The expectations, the heavy-handed discipline, the hierarchy when it came to siblings, and how the oldest were treated as second parents and also took part in the disciplining.
For a long time i had a lot of resentment towards my older siblings, but now that im an adult i feel bad for them having to take on so much responsibility as children themselves. If they didn't keep me in check, they would get in trouble too. It doesnt make what happened right or what sean did right, but culturally its just so different from modern american upbringing.
As an older brother why would you hit her foh this episode made my eyes water
Abuse wether it’s physical or mental or sexual if you are raised in that environment untill adulthood and able to move out you can be become the abuser just like your parents or who ever abused you and if nobody taught you to the right ways to go about stuff they are going to think it’s ok for them
To do
It in
Their adult life and pass it down to generations to generations
These 4 siblings will overcome this trama together along with individual work. Brianna learned to love herself and Taylor growning and learning what kind of man he can be.
No sir u can leave them alone I came from sibling abuse an im still huanted by the things I went thru. LOVE FROM A FAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR DISTANCE
forgive but move on
Sean is me especially being African I was discipline mentally and emotionally and physically I got stories for days have sisters I had to be tough and it’s hard to have relationships because I don’t know how to love so I understand Sean because my little sister at one point had to teach her had to be tough but I grew out of it and became her protector but also had to show her what love is even if I didn’t know it…this is scary speaking on it
Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you have a great healing journey
yes I completely understood where Sean was coming from being African myself as well. Abuse is seen as discipline in African homes but that does not make it right. I am happy to hear you are doing better.
I truly feel for the big brother… you can tell he was trying his best in the only way he knew how… “Do I want to be right, or do I want to be effective.” Is a tool which has helped me tremendously to stay grounded and focused when I get into arguments. In the brothers eyes, I think he is struggling because he know’s he is “right”, yet, I pray he has the strength to surrender and to lean more into being effective with his leadership and guidance toward his younger siblings. I know he has it in him❤️
These comment are WILD! I guess I'm too soft of a parent then. I discipline, but not abuse. I was raised by a dictator father, and all it was cause was resentment, fear, anxiety, and a number of other problems. I understand tradition, but somethings we need to move from. Choking, punching, kicking.. etc is too much..
Black communities, American and foreign, dismiss mistreatment of black women and girls. I'm not surprised by these comments at all. They are soft on black boys and hard on black girls.
It depends on what you mean by discipline
OR the eldest son has been abused to the point that he has now taken the role of his father bc that’s the only way a man like him with no wife, a child, can do. Don’t judge the CHILDREN. Pray. He is a father and a brother and the work he will have to do to rebuild his relationship with his siblings will show him the abuse that he has endured. God bless everyone!
Love you Karamo❤❤❤ I have learned so much from your show. I’m 73 years old and I thought I’ve seen it all and know it all but I was wrong.
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The siblings forget that the oldest also experienced the abuse, especially if he didn’t help the father to control the others. He was also young and powerless, with nowhere to go. Obey me or else is very common in Africa, or used to be.
I get ur point, but if he willingly to help or understand that the abuse he went through was bad, he would try everything possible to prevent his siblings (at least the sister). Not to go through the same thing.
i promise you they don't forget that, the problem is, it simply does not matter. Having someone inflict violence on you ESPECIALLY physical, encouraging it from your abusive father and stopping ur mother from intervening in the name of "discipline" has left them with their own scars. If you found out your school bully was being beat by their dad and that's why he beats on you, you'd be like... Fuck that gotta do w me?? 😭😭😭 It's an explanation, it's NOT an excuse but he keeps trying to use it as one and justify his actions, that's why they want nothing to do w him. Hurt people do hurt people but it's extremely difficult to hold empathy for an abuser ESPECIALLY your own abuser it's not fair to them especially asking them to be "patient" and expecting them to love him while he ACTIVELY defends the past
Being abused gives you a REASON to abuse, not a right. Yes I can see how he got there (reason), but he has no right to perpetuate that same abuse on his siblings
Remember his family is NOT from the United States. I don’t agree with actions of putting hands on her, but have to understand he was raised differently. And he is right about this generation of kids now a days just mad disrespectful
Sean is not lying. You have to be patient to walk away from those type of situations because parents will be ignorant. And because you’re constantly being put in that toxic environment, you’re not going to break that cycle until you make the conscious decision to leave.
I don't agree that just because you come from another part of the world that certain things are given a pass. Beating on a girl, a teenager in that way is justifiable because you're haitian? The oldest sibling partaking in the abuse of the younger siblings? Not right. However, i sympathized with shaun for having to endure the abuse alone and thought it was his duty to change his dads ways.
I agree 100 percent
This hurts😢
I actually feel sad for all three of them,the trauma is deep.
Violence is not the answer they need to put their hands down and open their hearts up. Therapy and separation can help them heal individually and as a family.🙏🏾
I agree 100 percent
I’m toxic because I’m just looking at big brother like, sheesh😍
🤦🏽♀️ smh😂😂
I feel the older brother is just trying to do what he believes is expected of him by his parents. Be it as it may, wrong is wrong. I hope they change that horrific mindset.
the daughter was watching a random show with 2 gay men and her father and brother think THEY are in the right to beat HER up?! homosexuality is wrong but violence against women especially family is okay?
By the comments I know that some of yall didn’t watch the whole thing.. I don’t agree with the way Sean handled things, but you have to realize we still don’t know everything that he went through as a child. He was emotionally and physically abused. At this point it’s a learned behavior that he just has to work on. Admitting he was wrong was a big step. Let’s just pray that this family stays together, and builds a good relationship.
He probably abused his siblings to earn his father’s respect. Everyone finds ways to be loved by their parent. Sometimes that’s copying the abuse.
Love should never be tough. Love is kind. Give your kids peace. The world is hard enough
king came out and started chewing sean up lol
This “New School” no discipline is really the way to go these days 🙄. Becuz when i was coming up, my parents did NOT repeat themselves. She was watching something idc WHAT it was, if your parent says turn it off, you do it OR get out. Now i don’t condone abuse, BUT Correction absolutely! #DontGetitConfused
your kids need you to repeat yourself so you can hear what you said, evaluate why you said it and realize your thinking process is dumb. you haitian and ya son got a kid out of wedlock yet the reason for her not watching it “religious”. get a reality check. the son didnt even live at the house and the time he was already grown with kids and didn’t stay in a child’s place.
Just because it’s cultural doesn’t mean it’s appropriate! They legit assaulted that girl and are holding her hostage in the house ! I’m praying these siblings get the mental and emotional healing they need!
Please research the cultural differences before you have an opinion.
The older brother is too much. As the oldest you don’t replace the parents so it’s not your job to discipline your siblings plus the dad is abusive so that’s definitely not what you want to model
I think the older brother is so conditioned to not fail his dad that he didn’t realize that it was abuse, he thought it was discipline. He didn’t have other siblings to relate to when he was being abused because they weren’t born yet. So he had no choice but to turn into his dad to escape the abuse and without realizing it, he was his dad all over again.
my heart aches for them , all of them. you can tell the older brother is trying to justify their abuse and he knows its wrong bc he has also been abused but he learned to "accept" it , when in reality he didn't :/
Also was probably doing it to earn his dad’s respect.
The younger generation fails to understand that there’s a whole generation like between 40-60 who had no say when they were younger. The reason why there are laws against things like abuse is because we didn’t want our children to suffer what we did and not be able to get help. When you were the oldest parents/older family members were harder on you because they trained you to take over the family if something happened, that’s what Shawn is describing.
I think the older one is stuck in the middle and in those cultures the parents are always right!! That's what he was taught.
Karamo spitting that creole 😂
How tf is he gonna say the girl is fighting like a man , and then treating her like a grown man
Sean is du Lu Lu, but that’s definitely his parents fault. They made him feel like he was the 3rd parent and it seems like his parents beat on him a lot too.
This is why I love Karomo, he is the wise in wisdom just everything. Here balling my eyes out right now lol then right into stds o my
So sad that they are struggling through all this trauma. Hope they heal from this and maintain their relationships. Just a side note, what an attractive family.
Karamo is exemplary ❤
aw brianna and taylor look so happy
I feel like the comments are refusing to understand the older brother’s pov was he right of course not but trauma affects everyone differently. And if she was putting her hands on him then she’s not in the right either and that shouldn’t be excused
I just love karamo
Shaun was a victim. If you can't see that then you have no idea how abuse works.
He has stockholm syndrome which can happen when abused which makes one empathize with their abuser and not focus on the actual act of the abuse that was happening towards them.
Shaun has been heavily indoctrinated by his parents to believe that the treatment he received was " tough love " and not see it for what it was - abuse.
Yes he was wrong for continuing this pattern and no it doesn't negate the fact he'll need to account for his part but please let's not act like he was not a victim as well.
these comments saying sean upheld haitian household standards but let me hold my mom back from checking my dad and i’m getting the shit slapped out of me. you don’t get in between your parents. sean’s father didn’t keep him in a child’s place and that caused him to distribute discipline that he had no place or right to give.
Culture difference is something...
Well I’m crying
I think this may be generational abuse/ trauma and since the Sean is the eldest I think his father taught him how to do these things and he just doesn’t know better
Don't make it right, but culture difference is so different
Abuse is different from discipline‼️the older brother is praising his fathers action because he feels as if he’s over them or he’s next to have the authority when he will only make them resent him n want to be away from him that’s y he didn’t see that his father brutally abused his sister
The oldest full of it!
This is heartbreaking, it is learnt behaviour. And it seems a culture thing for the first born to co parent the younger ones
Asking to be patient with an abuser is how people END UP DEAD!
Abuse is not love, they aren't the same. Abuse is not acceptable you are making excuses for your abusive father no thank you
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I feel so bad for that first family u can read and understand all of them and tell its not all black and white
Did anyone hear Karamo’s analysis? Come on now people. “Learnt behaviour “
Bad behaviour doesn’t equal bad people. He has to re-learn what he was taught 🤷🏽♀️
I'm the baby. My older siblings would try to come at me crazy. However, I put them in their place cause you're not my parents.
Its just sad shawns gonna repeat his dads actions and he thinks it ok , i genuinely feel bad he is singled out because he was too weak to stick up to his parents and still the pressure of being the oldest sure did break him and i feel for him just bcs the cycle wasnt his fault and he got sucked into thinking its normal while feeling betrayed by his siblings he has hurt .
I don’t know…. The older brother’s apology seemed scripted.
Love is everything but easy smh
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The older brother is very delusional and it’s alarming.
I had a harsh father as well. I avoided beating by not doing what he told me not to do. It works
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You can't beat up women, that's not okay. That's abuse and America don't play that. Jail is the only place who abusers
wait is karamo haitian!!?
I thought so to, no.
Nah, I thought so too.
He is of Jamaica and Cuban decent.
A load of bullone gossips from older brother how the hell can you forgive a member of the family that treat you like this the bloody mother and father would get hard times if it was any of my family showing abusives behavier like this this is not normality if you treat people like this you should not marry or have a family once and for all I come from a family of 11children and maverick saw this behavier you simply cannot comprehend it full stop pus a scare to people’s minds when you treat us in a bad way this behavier should be punished by the law especially at family courtrooms and get a warning or you go too jail
She shouldnt be watching it but he didnt have to beat her down
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The parents failed all the children
If you make children you need to take care of them, its not the children responsibility to raise other children thats modern day slavery
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I totally get where Sean is coming from because their culture is waaaaaay different than ours .... I also agree with the way Sean handled the cell phone situation because theres no reason to act a fool when your cell phone is taken away or your ask to give your cell phone up .... Hittin him cause he took your cell phone .... She needed her a** whooped ... Not to sound abusive or violent but im ~OLD SCHOOL~ and i was raised that you do what your parents tell you to do or you get that a** whipped and thats the way it was .... These kids now-a-days have no respect for their parents teachers preachers police nobody and its shameful .... A child and i repeat CHILD goes absolutely ballistic when you take their cell phone .... When the father told her to turn that program off the word was yes Sir and do it not lettin the brother tell her she could watch it on her phone in her room .... Just turn it off PERIOD .... Dont disobey get cho a** whipped and then play the victim 😐
We don't know what you mean
I agree with the older sibling. These kids now have no sense of discipline and respect for self and others. I grew up in a traditional West Indian household and American society can wrongfully influence youth. Also, at that teenager stage, young girls start to feel themselves and 16-17 is the age where you have to let them know who tf runs shit. I was a little troubled teen and my mom is Jamaican and from Philly so you already know she gave me the business and it was rightfully deserved.
you have the same mindset as the older brother. Kind of sad.
Sean is like ‘oh poor me, me, me!’ Pathetic
Sean has been brainwashed & dense 🤷♀️🤦♀️.
The brother, who said his sister never disrespected him, just for the fact that he encouraged her not to listen to her father. Proved he has more years to learn.
The senior brother, you're not perfect. But I'm completely on your side.
How did he encourage her to not listen to their father. He told her to go to the room and watch it on her phone. They followed her and changed up the situation.
I agree with the older brother, these kids in this generation are beyond disrespectful. They think that whoopin' is something, wait until life gets a hold of them. I appreciate my whoopings and believe I'm a better woman because of them.
If she is kicking you then you have to defend yourself. You have to give her some tough love.
I agree with the older brother. These kids just want to do whatever they want with no consequences.
A minor child watching crap.
This is just regular Caribbean discipline done by the father and bigger brother.
BC it's normal behavior doesn't make it the correct behavior. You can see that on the stage.
Children are meant to respect and obey their parents no matter the situation. The young ones are so disrespectful in the society 😢
So be subjected to abuse, no matter the situation? Okay.
So they’re disrespectful because they don’t want to be a punching bag?
No children aren't "meant to obey their parents no matter the situation". Parents are not always right. No one has to accept being broken and abused.
@butterbeans4714 girl these people brain dead.
@@PeggyRabbit32I agree 100 percent preach to the choir
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