it might well be down to the fact that I play more cruisers on NA, since that's my personal, and do more BB reviews on Asia. When playing solo, I mostly prefer ships that can deal with any class of opponent, and I'd like to see the DD that wants to take me on in an Odin :)
You missed commenting on an interesting aspect of Dewey, the legendary commander. Precise aim duration is cut in half, but so is the cool down. You can use all of your precise aim charges with him. Allegedly, you can use all 7 if you select the level ?5? skill for additional precise aim. You need a small map to get into the action quickly for that to work out I’m sure. Some of the guys ran all the reload reduction math and there’s no way to get two salvos in a precise aim, no matter the commander assigned, so Dewey has the ability to get another precise aim available in half the time.
Yeah, I haven't run the math, but Dewey is definitely custom made for the new branch. You could almost argue for a range module in slot one to get shots on target earlier, if you use Dewey, since you'll pretty much always have precise aim on.
I think your right, monti is more flexible and if you play closely together in 2 bb and maybe cruiser support it doesnt matter cause cv lose all planes anyway Also monti can react better to a rushing cruiser/dd with the reload .. citadels on both hurt.. neither is a dmg monster like yamato
The slow american BBs are strong but their gameplay is definently something not everyone will come to like Im only at kansas and i have played only two battles but i really enjoyed it, good at both sniping and brawling, in my second battle i challenged a black bismarck and won Other people will definently find them boring however, slow speed and a reload of 29 seconds of misery is not attractive for everybody
Sad that you dont like the line so much, however for someone who doesnt like them, youre actually doing quite well! I have the USN tech tree as my main and the playstyle very much suits me, not much with German BB's as i struggle with them, not very comfortable witg low volume of fire, but they are very tanky ships. mileage may vary from person to person afterall. Good Job with this review!!!
Absolutely. They're not bad ships - there are very few truly "underwhelming" ships in the game, it's mostly up to play style preference. I'm trying to be fair in my reviews, although it obviously shines through if I don't like a line :) My personal style is on a strategic level. I like ships that can influence the outcome of a battle at crucial moments - e.g. a DD that can dominate caps, light cruisers that can take on any kind of opponent, or a battleship that can fire up the engines when I'm spotting an opening in the enemy formations, and break them. Things like the Odin or Richelieu are perfect BBs for me. That's not to say that USN BBs aren't valuable, or in any way worse - I feel them as "fire support" and AA ships, and they're really good at that, but I need things I can make a "decisive play" in, if that makes sense.
Terry once you get to the Worcester it be would nice to see a Des Moines vs Worcester maxed video. Light cruiser vs heavy cruiser. Des Moines would have the higher alpha damage while Worcester would have the DPS. (Excluding the rapid reload on Des Moines) the AA would go to Worcester just in terms of the consumables. It would be interesting to see these two American cruisers duke it out. Definitely a comparison worth while.
@@FunandGameswithTerry from what I have heard, Des Moines is extremely limited in range and pretty much useless in center control, which is very common on high tier battles.
Not quite. Range is indeed limited, but she's a swimming no fly zone, and due to her gun layout, she's pretty hard to dislodge when in a defensive position next to an island. Centre cap lives and dies with the DDs, and while the BB line might not be in range initially, the DDs very much are. She doesn't quite have Worcester's utility, but can take a more aggressive stance, and the 203mm arcs are better.
Historically the us mk7 gun(mk6 as well) fired the mk8 super heavy AP/C/BC shell. Those shells had as much hit as the Japanese 46cm AP shell, while nominally smaller they had a much higher velocity. It would be cool if the game reflected that in damage dealt. The mk7 gun could also fire the mk23 shell which is(as far as I know) the most powerful naval artillery shell to have ever existed. It would make for interesting matchmaking if that round was added to the game. The shell was developed in the early to mid 50’s so just about the time frame of the game. I don’t think they had any ships built after ‘49 but some of the ships were still in use up until the 90’s.
@@tankkiller_2666 there’s testing data about them. It can also be figured out mathematically. Parts of Yamato and mushashi were also salvaged and tested upon. There was a test done on the turret armor using a mk7 gun at point blank that’s pretty interesting.
@@hattrick8684 yeah I heard that Iowa shell tested at Yamato front 26 inch amore plate or something. Was tested pretty interesting to read online 👍🏾. If you have PS4 world of warships legends add me Tankkiller_266
⚜️ It is suiting that the US Navy would've ostensibly named their penultimate battleships after Vermont and Montana, our country's most storied maritime states! I recall as a young child, being taught the story of how Christopher Columbus set sail from central Montana in 1492, on his fateful trip to locate a new trade route from Montana to China! ✔️ Of course, he located the trade route, and filled his hull with ramen & tomatoes. Then he set sail on the return trip, but was knocked off course by a Typhoon! Naturally, this caused his ship to crash onto the shores of a hitherto undiscovered peninsula, which is now known as "Italy". 👉 Columbus traded ramen and tomatoes, which the natives used to invent "spaghetti" with. In return, they gave him 15th century Flex Seal, required to patch holes in the hull. It's good to mix in some good, hearty education whenever the opportunity arises. Knowledge is power!! 😉👍
On my opinion mate, Vermont line bb advantages also her weakness. You were right about the ship that not design for brawl, due to its very long reload time for the main gun
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see what a broadside can do at close range, but she just doesn't have the endurance for that. I can reload a Kurfürst's guns almost twice as fast, with tons of armour and blistering secondaries
I agree with your sentiments here. I have the entire American tech tree except Montana and Gearing, and have since moved on to the Italian cruisers and Japanese DDs. Not sure if ill ever get Montana, as I found Iowa to be dissappointing (of course results vary but). I was excited to hear about the new BB line, and will probably at least get one if them, but the speed and insane reload dampened the excitement. Maybe next year...🤔🤣
This is probably too late but Montana was my first T10 and I have over 65% WR with over 1.1k battles with it. I play solo most of the time. Even in todays meta it still holds up. It doesn't have any weaknesses and it's very versatile. Good speed, good guns, good AA, good maneuverability, fast reload. RR2 would make it even better and competitive. I have been playing since update 1.4. I agree Iowa is mediocre at best, it gets citadeled by every other BB and being T9 doesn't help.
Big fan brother strictly following your advices for playing styles and aiming trick thanks for videos m playing this game since 3 months and after seeing some videos of urs I can play very well and enjoying alot👏👏
CZcams autoplay brought up your Vermont review where you thought doing 100k+ is tough in it. Well.. You proved yourself wrong. I'm a DD main so don't really know about high tier BBs. But do you like the German BBs because of thier brawling strengths? Or maybe long range mutual sniping isn't your choice?
This is a fully decked out Vermont, with a 12-point captain and historical camo, vs. a "free-to-play" vermont with a 10-point captain in the original review. Especially the APCs and improved accuracy in the maxed build can make a difference. Pretty much the only BB line I've enjoyed so far is the German one, and that's down to the fact that they are battering rams who can sail into enemy formations and wreak havoc, and have enough secondaries for me to cycle through the guns and be shooting at all times. The "sit back, and pull the trigger every 30s" thing really isn't my style, I feel that there's very little skill required in that sort of thing.
Well done! Monty's dispersion isn't the greatest, so if you face one, you could try to go bow in between salvos with the long reload, to minimise the amount of return fire you take.
Yes. They're both good ships, but with a different focus & playstyle. Vermont hits really hard, but takes a very long time to reload. You'll need to make your salvos count, and refrain from taking shots that are likely not going to hit, like aiming at cruisers at range. Vermont mostly stays in the rear. Montana can play more mobile, lower gun calibre, but faster reload, and probably wants to get into closer ranges eventually to get more shots on target, take on cruisers etc.
For Me american ships are for new players. Cause in these ships you dont have to much worry about fire and flood, planes, shells are good range is good, everything is pretty much good. For me the most tactical and professional play style for any bb player is of sovit BB line. They dont have armour, bad damge reduction, lose heath quickly, not good AA(except Kremlin),catches fire and flood quickly, very short range for a BB, poor citadel protection. With so many disadvantages its get very intresting to play. U have to get positioned behind the island to avoid as many shells. Always be with allies to get AA support. The best play style for this line is of Richelieu, always bow in forget u have a rear turret also😂. If anyone wants to be a professional BB player play soviat BB's.
The destroyer problem with battleships ignoring them is not an Asia only Korinek (I.e. if I want to kill destroyers to compete missions, I play as a battleship namely the Kansas or Minnesota). Face palm…
Their playstyle is quite different, Worcester is this long-range HE spammer while Mino is this short-range threat with brutal AP, torps and smoke. Worcester vs Smolensk would be much more interesting, although I have already made up my mind about this.
@@michaelkovacic2608 yes thats a close fight... Have had a lot of Smolensk vs Worchester battles lately and they've been about 50/50 outcome... (In the Smol, my Worchester driving is still pretty bad, hate those arcs LOL) -USNVet, JRDJ
Hard question. I love most German ships, favourite BBs are probably Odin and Richie. Des Moines, Mino and Hindenburg are excellent cruisers, Hsienyang is probably my favourite DD atm, followed by Icarus and Fushun. Sims, great ship, Nürnberg ist probably still my most played.
Depends what you like. Slow ship, more guns - static gameplay, stay back and shoot at things. Primary target are probably enemy BBs, cruisers if they're stupid and come close. Weak against destroyers.
good game. Please, But the game publisher should upgrade the number of aircraft for the British army. Squadron size and number of team fees remain the same. just need to update to increase the total number of aircraft for the British army. because the aircraft is too small compared to the US and Japanese troops.
Not a big fan of us bb too. Not a big fan of NC while most think its great. At t10 I'm mostly happy with republique, moskva or yamato. Not sure if there is any other t10 i would want right now. Conqueror and Kremlin are in a bad shape so not really grinding for them.
My T10s so far are Mino, Des Moines, Kurfürst and Hindenburg. If there was another BB I'd be interested in, it'd probably be French, but I'm aiming for a DD first (still torn between Harugumo and Yueyang)
@@FunandGameswithTerry have the republique, yamato and moskva. Wanted to go haragumo.. But dari g seems to outclass that. Although most use it more as torpship than gunboat. Have the akizuki... But i think you need islands and such to hide with it and shoot behind it... Which isnt really possible like pc. I'm not very strong with dd any how. So perhaps a minotaur, conqueror or kremlin..
Make sure to check the chances (small info icon) when using crates. I've gotten some commanders from bundles in the past, Yamamoto, if I'm not mistaken, but haven't seen them in a while.
I agree. Somehow Yamato or Musashi quiet easy to citadel if you can put a well place shot to their side. Just need to know when to angle your ship when their main gun start to fire With that 12 18" gun, yes, i believe what you said is right, not to mention when you score a citadel crisis
Ignoring destroyers happens a lot on NA too. I end up playing gunboat destroyers or cruisers to counter them if I'm not teamed up
it might well be down to the fact that I play more cruisers on NA, since that's my personal, and do more BB reviews on Asia. When playing solo, I mostly prefer ships that can deal with any class of opponent, and I'd like to see the DD that wants to take me on in an Odin :)
What is the difference between Asian server players with NA server players ??
@@nitsu2947 probably for the most part the time zone they live in!
@@Kraenesk oh my god why didn't i think of that
@@FunandGameswithTerry I will in my shima or aka
You missed commenting on an interesting aspect of Dewey, the legendary commander. Precise aim duration is cut in half, but so is the cool down. You can use all of your precise aim charges with him. Allegedly, you can use all 7 if you select the level ?5? skill for additional precise aim. You need a small map to get into the action quickly for that to work out I’m sure.
Some of the guys ran all the reload reduction math and there’s no way to get two salvos in a precise aim, no matter the commander assigned, so Dewey has the ability to get another precise aim available in half the time.
Yeah, I haven't run the math, but Dewey is definitely custom made for the new branch. You could almost argue for a range module in slot one to get shots on target earlier, if you use Dewey, since you'll pretty much always have precise aim on.
I think your right, monti is more flexible and if you play closely together in 2 bb and maybe cruiser support it doesnt matter cause cv lose all planes anyway
Also monti can react better to a rushing cruiser/dd with the reload .. citadels on both hurt.. neither is a dmg monster like yamato
100% agreed
I went lower risk of deck fire rather than the engine mod you went with on Vermont... Lots o spam burner's out there trying to burn poor Vermont 🥺
Valid choice. I switched to that only due to the legendary captain's fire prevention skillset.
The slow american BBs are strong but their gameplay is definently something not everyone will come to like
Im only at kansas and i have played only two battles but i really enjoyed it, good at both sniping and brawling, in my second battle i challenged a black bismarck and won
Other people will definently find them boring however, slow speed and a reload of 29 seconds of misery is not attractive for everybody
Yep, they have their niche. Not as forgiving as the old branch, every wasted salvo really hurts. Personally, I'm just glad to be back in German BBs :)
I defeated the black bismark with a mackensen.
Sad that you dont like the line so much, however for someone who doesnt like them, youre actually doing quite well! I have the USN tech tree as my main and the playstyle very much suits me, not much with German BB's as i struggle with them, not very comfortable witg low volume of fire, but they are very tanky ships. mileage may vary from person to person afterall. Good Job with this review!!!
Absolutely. They're not bad ships - there are very few truly "underwhelming" ships in the game, it's mostly up to play style preference. I'm trying to be fair in my reviews, although it obviously shines through if I don't like a line :)
My personal style is on a strategic level. I like ships that can influence the outcome of a battle at crucial moments - e.g. a DD that can dominate caps, light cruisers that can take on any kind of opponent, or a battleship that can fire up the engines when I'm spotting an opening in the enemy formations, and break them. Things like the Odin or Richelieu are perfect BBs for me. That's not to say that USN BBs aren't valuable, or in any way worse - I feel them as "fire support" and AA ships, and they're really good at that, but I need things I can make a "decisive play" in, if that makes sense.
Terry once you get to the Worcester it be would nice to see a Des Moines vs Worcester maxed video. Light cruiser vs heavy cruiser. Des Moines would have the higher alpha damage while Worcester would have the DPS. (Excluding the rapid reload on Des Moines) the AA would go to Worcester just in terms of the consumables. It would be interesting to see these two American cruisers duke it out. Definitely a comparison worth while.
Yep, I might do that on press, actually. My personal opinion so far is that Des Moines would win a brawl hands down, but might lose a ranged duel.
@@FunandGameswithTerry from what I have heard, Des Moines is extremely limited in range and pretty much useless in center control, which is very common on high tier battles.
Not quite. Range is indeed limited, but she's a swimming no fly zone, and due to her gun layout, she's pretty hard to dislodge when in a defensive position next to an island.
Centre cap lives and dies with the DDs, and while the BB line might not be in range initially, the DDs very much are. She doesn't quite have Worcester's utility, but can take a more aggressive stance, and the 203mm arcs are better.
@@michaelkovacic2608 Des Moines shouldn't have much problem in Cage center cap, considering she has a big island to poke her front from behind.
@@FunandGameswithTerry Agreed!! I prefer Des Moines to Worchester, as her shell arcs are so much easier and forgiving...
Historically the us mk7 gun(mk6 as well) fired the mk8 super heavy AP/C/BC shell. Those shells had as much hit as the Japanese 46cm AP shell, while nominally smaller they had a much higher velocity. It would be cool if the game reflected that in damage dealt. The mk7 gun could also fire the mk23 shell which is(as far as I know) the most powerful naval artillery shell to have ever existed. It would make for interesting matchmaking if that round was added to the game. The shell was developed in the early to mid 50’s so just about the time frame of the game. I don’t think they had any ships built after ‘49 but some of the ships were still in use up until the 90’s.
Well Yamato type 94 naval guns quit unknown what’s can done to battleship but Both ships shells are most powerful shells ever on naval Fight
@@tankkiller_2666 there’s testing data about them. It can also be figured out mathematically. Parts of Yamato and mushashi were also salvaged and tested upon. There was a test done on the turret armor using a mk7 gun at point blank that’s pretty interesting.
@@hattrick8684 yeah I heard that Iowa shell tested at Yamato front 26 inch amore plate or something. Was tested pretty interesting to read online 👍🏾. If you have PS4 world of warships legends add me Tankkiller_266
⚜️ It is suiting that the US Navy would've ostensibly named their penultimate battleships after Vermont and Montana, our country's most storied maritime states! I recall as a young child, being taught the story of how Christopher Columbus set sail from central Montana in 1492, on his fateful trip to locate a new trade route from Montana to China!
✔️ Of course, he located the trade route, and filled his hull with ramen & tomatoes. Then he set sail on the return trip, but was knocked off course by a Typhoon! Naturally, this caused his ship to crash onto the shores of a hitherto undiscovered peninsula, which is now known as "Italy".
👉 Columbus traded ramen and tomatoes, which the natives used to invent "spaghetti" with. In return, they gave him 15th century Flex Seal, required to patch holes in the hull.
It's good to mix in some good, hearty education whenever the opportunity arises. Knowledge is power!! 😉👍
On my opinion mate, Vermont line bb advantages also her weakness. You were right about the ship that not design for brawl, due to its very long reload time for the main gun
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see what a broadside can do at close range, but she just doesn't have the endurance for that. I can reload a Kurfürst's guns almost twice as fast, with tons of armour and blistering secondaries
I agree with your sentiments here. I have the entire American tech tree except Montana and Gearing, and have since moved on to the Italian cruisers and Japanese DDs. Not sure if ill ever get Montana, as I found Iowa to be dissappointing (of course results vary but). I was excited to hear about the new BB line, and will probably at least get one if them, but the speed and insane reload dampened the excitement. Maybe next year...🤔🤣
This is probably too late but Montana was my first T10 and I have over 65% WR with over 1.1k battles with it. I play solo most of the time. Even in todays meta it still holds up. It doesn't have any weaknesses and it's very versatile. Good speed, good guns, good AA, good maneuverability, fast reload. RR2 would make it even better and competitive. I have been playing since update 1.4. I agree Iowa is mediocre at best, it gets citadeled by every other BB and being T9 doesn't help.
Big fan brother strictly following your advices for playing styles and aiming trick thanks for videos m playing this game since 3 months and after seeing some videos of urs I can play very well and enjoying alot👏👏
I wonder why the Montana legendary module has all advantages while Yamato has 1 advantage and 1 drawback
CZcams autoplay brought up your Vermont review where you thought doing 100k+ is tough in it.
Well.. You proved yourself wrong. I'm a DD main so don't really know about high tier BBs. But do you like the German BBs because of thier brawling strengths? Or maybe long range mutual sniping isn't your choice?
This is a fully decked out Vermont, with a 12-point captain and historical camo, vs. a "free-to-play" vermont with a 10-point captain in the original review. Especially the APCs and improved accuracy in the maxed build can make a difference.
Pretty much the only BB line I've enjoyed so far is the German one, and that's down to the fact that they are battering rams who can sail into enemy formations and wreak havoc, and have enough secondaries for me to cycle through the guns and be shooting at all times. The "sit back, and pull the trigger every 30s" thing really isn't my style, I feel that there's very little skill required in that sort of thing.
Great video
Got the Missouri. She's a great ship
hi bro nice to see u
I was that vermont ^^
Well done! Monty's dispersion isn't the greatest, so if you face one, you could try to go bow in between salvos with the long reload, to minimise the amount of return fire you take.
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So montana or vermont which ship is better?
Yes.
They're both good ships, but with a different focus & playstyle. Vermont hits really hard, but takes a very long time to reload. You'll need to make your salvos count, and refrain from taking shots that are likely not going to hit, like aiming at cruisers at range. Vermont mostly stays in the rear.
Montana can play more mobile, lower gun calibre, but faster reload, and probably wants to get into closer ranges eventually to get more shots on target, take on cruisers etc.
Sounds like a ShenMark ,or Iceamoto is next!?the best will me an EnterIwa
Hey Terry how are you? I am tossing up between teir 10 Italian cruiser or the German cruiser what's your opinion on them? Thanks
Can't say much about Venezia, since I haven't tried her, but Hindenburg is a great ship. Works very well at long range, and can brawl.
@@FunandGameswithTerry thanks terry
Bro what's the best tech tree to go down for a battleship player for the best experience
For Me american ships are for new players. Cause in these ships you dont have to much worry about fire and flood, planes, shells are good range is good, everything is pretty much good.
For me the most tactical and professional play style for any bb player is of sovit BB line.
They dont have armour, bad damge reduction, lose heath quickly, not good AA(except Kremlin),catches fire and flood quickly, very short range for a BB, poor citadel protection. With so many disadvantages its get very intresting to play. U have to get positioned behind the island to avoid as many shells. Always be with allies to get AA support. The best play style for this line is of Richelieu, always bow in forget u have a rear turret also😂.
If anyone wants to be a professional BB player play soviat BB's.
You need to know what you're doing in Soviet BBs, and they're still a pain imo. I'd much rather take something French out :)
@@FunandGameswithTerry there was no point to hit hard them by wargaming. They just ruined this line
The destroyer problem with battleships ignoring them is not an Asia only Korinek (I.e. if I want to kill destroyers to compete missions, I play as a battleship namely the Kansas or Minnesota). Face palm…
Vermont is powerful, but Montana is powerful with speed.
Montana is bigger that Vermont look at the size in the stats
We need mino vs worcester :)
(I know they are pretty different)
Their playstyle is quite different, Worcester is this long-range HE spammer while Mino is this short-range threat with brutal AP, torps and smoke. Worcester vs Smolensk would be much more interesting, although I have already made up my mind about this.
@@michaelkovacic2608 a different look but i like that :)
@@michaelkovacic2608 yes thats a close fight... Have had a lot of Smolensk vs Worchester battles lately and they've been about 50/50 outcome... (In the Smol, my Worchester driving is still pretty bad, hate those arcs LOL)
-USNVet, JRDJ
Am I the only person who kinda wishes that wows blitz gets ported to switch I feel like they could do that
Terry what's your favorite ship
Hard question. I love most German ships, favourite BBs are probably Odin and Richie. Des Moines, Mino and Hindenburg are excellent cruisers, Hsienyang is probably my favourite DD atm, followed by Icarus and Fushun. Sims, great ship, Nürnberg ist probably still my most played.
Hey can I ask what religion you play in
I play on North America (although I'm in UTC+10 timezone, which means I'm online at odd times sometimes)
Do you like midway
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Is Kansas worth of silver Terry I'm going to buy it
Depends what you like. Slow ship, more guns - static gameplay, stay back and shoot at things. Primary target are probably enemy BBs, cruisers if they're stupid and come close. Weak against destroyers.
good game. Please, But the game publisher should upgrade the number of aircraft for the British army. Squadron size and number of team fees remain the same. just need to update to increase the total number of aircraft for the British army. because the aircraft is too small compared to the US and Japanese troops.
Not a big fan of us bb too. Not a big fan of NC while most think its great. At t10 I'm mostly happy with republique, moskva or yamato. Not sure if there is any other t10 i would want right now. Conqueror and Kremlin are in a bad shape so not really grinding for them.
My T10s so far are Mino, Des Moines, Kurfürst and Hindenburg. If there was another BB I'd be interested in, it'd probably be French, but I'm aiming for a DD first (still torn between Harugumo and Yueyang)
@@FunandGameswithTerry have the republique, yamato and moskva. Wanted to go haragumo.. But dari g seems to outclass that. Although most use it more as torpship than gunboat. Have the akizuki... But i think you need islands and such to hide with it and shoot behind it... Which isnt really possible like pc. I'm not very strong with dd any how. So perhaps a minotaur, conqueror or kremlin..
Enemy ships go around the capture points and end up in your spawn and it's tier 10🤣🤣
I agree American BBs post CO are very underwhelming.
Terry I have both T9 lol
Can You do japanese battleships please.
Montmont
Where i can get those legendary capt?
Gamble crates only
@@dudditz Those Commander Crates for 200 dublons ?
@@evil_cyc yes this scam
Make sure to check the chances (small info icon) when using crates.
I've gotten some commanders from bundles in the past, Yamamoto, if I'm not mistaken, but haven't seen them in a while.
@@dudditz So it's better to do not touch those crates? :)
I can sense a nerf incoming
Vermont can take half of Yamato's health in 1 salvo with citadels.
I agree. Somehow Yamato or Musashi quiet easy to citadel if you can put a well place shot to their side. Just need to know when to angle your ship when their main gun start to fire
With that 12 18" gun, yes, i believe what you said is right, not to mention when you score a citadel crisis
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lol