Why Are These Guitars Worth $1 Million Dollars Each?

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  • čas přidán 12. 08. 2020
  • Songbirds guitar museum is home to one of the most impressive vintage guitar collections in the world. Part of that collection are two 1958 Gibson Explorer's both worth over $1,000,000 each, why are these guitars worth so much?
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  • @niczim123
    @niczim123 Před 3 lety +286

    $1,000,000 and it comes with a gig bag, the hard case costs extra.

    • @coffindancer38
      @coffindancer38 Před 3 lety +8

      Loool if it dont come with a house, and three strippin hot blondes i ain there.

    • @jlutie2943
      @jlutie2943 Před 3 lety +1

      And a free ticket to the museum

    • @efwfew
      @efwfew Před 3 lety +2

      Always hate this when buying a guitar. I'm a student and I find it crazy that most company don't give a hard case for 900+ dollars guitars, or maybe it's just me that doesn't realise the cost of it..

    • @rickallen6378
      @rickallen6378 Před 3 lety +1

      You just have to file the fret ends yourself too.

    • @gbmillergb
      @gbmillergb Před 3 lety +1

      Also 2 packs of Ernie Ball Super Slinkys .

  • @acegibson9533
    @acegibson9533 Před 3 lety +210

    When Stevie Ray Vaughan passed away, there were about 6 Strats that he owned that we not stage guitars. Those guitars were sold at the Orange County Guitar Show about 20 years ago. No premium, they were sold as regular Strats. Reason being is that jimmie wanted those guitars to go to working musicians not collectors.

    • @funkster007
      @funkster007 Před 3 lety +19

      And exactly how Stevie would have wanted it too. That's cool to know!

    • @dnews9519
      @dnews9519 Před 3 lety +15

      Unless a guitar goes to a working musician you will never get to hear how great it sounds.

    • @allguitar3349
      @allguitar3349 Před 3 lety +6

      How cool is Jimmie

    • @auntjenifer7774
      @auntjenifer7774 Před 2 lety +3

      @@allguitar3349 Jimmie Vaughan I think is the epitome of cool 😎 with his haircut and jacket and all !

    • @mrshmanckles1463
      @mrshmanckles1463 Před 2 lety

      Then you and I would not get to see and appreciate it

  • @kikemarino6806
    @kikemarino6806 Před 3 lety +308

    "But their kids were gonna love it." - Back to the Future vibes

    • @ZachBroyles
      @ZachBroyles Před 3 lety +7

      Yes!

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad Před 3 lety

      You got a repeat in their man, might wanna fix that

    • @nolanr7679
      @nolanr7679 Před 3 lety

      Pretty sure they got that 345 from Norman's Rare Guitars

    • @lueysixty-six7300
      @lueysixty-six7300 Před 3 lety +6

      Oh, the guy knew the reference he was making - he delivered the line expecting a reaction, a laugh most likely, but Rhett just steamrolled straight over the top of him onto his next question !!

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed Před 3 lety

      The Chad Pad * in there, might wanna fix that!

  • @MatthewScottmusic
    @MatthewScottmusic Před 3 lety +49

    Allen Collins made the Explorer legendary for me. 👍🏻

    • @ebathurst9216
      @ebathurst9216 Před 3 lety +5

      Dude You and Rhett have got to make a video together

    • @Backcountryhunter
      @Backcountryhunter Před 3 lety

      AMEN !!!!!!!

    • @richardcreese4468
      @richardcreese4468 Před 3 lety

      I don't think Allen took great care of his.

    • @lewismckenzie236
      @lewismckenzie236 Před 3 lety

      @@richardcreese4468
      Some of the greatest guitars are pretty beat up.
      Neil Young's Old Black and Hank along with Willie Nelson's Trigger are great examples.
      Those guitars have had some life.

    • @jr13227
      @jr13227 Před 2 lety

      Was Allen using a ‘58? I know when he switched to it from the Firebird it was right around 1976 when the first reissues came out so I expected it was one of those.

  • @DennisTrovato
    @DennisTrovato Před 3 lety +129

    "They weren't ready, but their kids are gonna love it."
    Pulling a McFly here, I see.

    • @theycallmewoodstock1756
      @theycallmewoodstock1756 Před 3 lety +1

      I saw that to

    • @timb6558
      @timb6558 Před 3 lety +3

      When he said that first part, I said in my head, "But their kids are gonna love it." Then he actually said it and it made my day!

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 3 lety +1

      @@timb6558 What did your parents think of this? :-)

  • @Sam_Howard
    @Sam_Howard Před 3 lety +215

    Sucks that they are closing. I was hoping to go someday.

    • @MrBighairyass
      @MrBighairyass Před 3 lety +3

      Sam Howard ...Ya, but you didn't...

    • @ItsRevival
      @ItsRevival Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah, seeing all those early production guitars in person would be really cool

    • @jacobarmstrong5308
      @jacobarmstrong5308 Před 3 lety +21

      it's a shame, but it's totally understandable. Even without the pandemic going on, it's a pretty niche collection. I'm sure it's hard to keep a steady stream of people coming in, and then I can only imagine what the insurance premiums would cost. yikes

    • @bustacap3791
      @bustacap3791 Před 3 lety +3

      yes these are the nice things we cant have anymore.

    • @Justafeller
      @Justafeller Před 3 lety +8

      Perhaps they want to keep these guitars in safer keeping. With the state of things in our country and knowing it will all pass in time, it would be responsible to preserve them for future generations by relocating them to a safer undisclosed location. Or maybe it's due to lack of business or something financial related. Or maybe it's both of those reasons or neither of them lol.

  • @funcooker3029
    @funcooker3029 Před 3 lety +19

    That story about the man who got his guitar from his friend who was sent to Vietnam was sad but it just shows the depth and history of the instrument. It's crazy (and great) how much importance people put on instruments, because of the memories and experiences that they can generate.

  • @admiralbeef5683
    @admiralbeef5683 Před 3 lety +26

    I’m a musician from Chattanooga, and I can say that Songbirds was a place I thought would stand till the end of time. It’s not only an incredible collection of vintage guitars, but it is a great music venue. I saw so many badass artists both local to Chattanooga and people like The Bacon Brothers, Vince Gill, Hal Ketchum and many more. It’s a sad day in Chattanooga to be sure.

    • @PIlotrcm
      @PIlotrcm Před 3 lety

      I wanted to go visit. Heart broken

    • @vonrikkor
      @vonrikkor Před 3 lety

      I got there the last week it was open. I have been a guitar geek since the late 50's. Mind-blowing is inadequate to describe the tour. I'm really sorry it closed.

  • @michael4630
    @michael4630 Před 3 lety +12

    That's exactly the reason why I love CZcams, because we all can see things that we are normally not expecting or able to see. I didn't even knew this place was existing. Thanks a lot for this Rhett :)

  • @preacherjohn9986
    @preacherjohn9986 Před 3 lety +28

    I found this video very interesting seeing how I used to play one these original Korina 1958 Explorers occasionally back in the '70's. My father played with a country band in the Louisville, KY area, and the guitarist that played with him owned one of these Explorers. His name was Bob and dad's band was called the "Nightcaps." I was 13 in '70 and Bob really enjoyed listening to me play guitar as I started at very young age of 6yrs old. Dad used to take me to Honky Tonk jam sessions on Sunday aftns so I could sit in with his band, thus getting the opportunity to play Bob's Explorer. Being more of a pop/rock player in those days, they were really impressed with my riffs as most country players never heard anything from the likes of Zep, ZZtop, Stones, etc. Did I know what I was playing with them at that time? Nah, but most country songs of that day was pretty much a 1-4-5 progression, which gave me all the riffs in the world I could slip in. Bob loved that Explorer, and bragged on it a lot. He moved to the Southern IN area and opened a used furniture store, but we all kept in touch, and of course dad's band was still intact; they just expanded their honyky tonk endeavors across the bridge also. One day (and I'm guessing at the date now; very late '70s to early 80's, I wasn't married yet and that happened in '83), Bob had his Explorer at his store, and someone came in and offered him $1500 for it. He thought that was an incredible price for it, and sold it! He never did play the same after that with whatever he replaced it with, and I'm guessing a 335. I heard tell, that the person who bought it shipped it to England, and it was damaged in air freight, but I have no proof of this. I haven't seen Bob since the late '90's as he moved to TN somewhere and we lost touch. He was a bit older than dad who would have been 88 this year if he was still here. I did end up with dad's old bass though, a 1961 Fender P-bass. And it still sounds as good today and plays as well as it did when he played it. It's finish is pretty wore out now, but it has the mojo you can't feel or hear anymore, and boy the stories that bass could tell if it could talk. $1 million plus for a '58 Explorer now? Boy, that's crazy! But your video really brought back some memories and reminds me how blessed I was to say, "I used to play one." BTW, Bob told me that there were only 8 original Korinas. Sorry this if this reply is a little lengthy, but Hey, all guitars have a story to tell.

    • @RhettShull
      @RhettShull  Před 3 lety +2

      Great story!! Thanks for sharing

  • @reverb508
    @reverb508 Před 3 lety +39

    I'm really bummed about Songbirds closing. I was hoping to visit TN after the pandemic and check them out.

  • @marcusdawson5621
    @marcusdawson5621 Před 3 lety +20

    Hmmm, been playing 50+ years, have about 20 basses.
    There is no guitar worth $1000000. There are only crazy collectors.

    • @bassboye8959
      @bassboye8959 Před 3 lety +1

      And the carpet bagger geek speculators driving this nonsense. They WILL render these instruments irrelavant. Greed is not a virtue.

    • @VintageSlide
      @VintageSlide Před 3 lety +1

      Buying something as a collectoble has little to none to do with buying something as a thing you use.
      Stuff like vintage Fenders and Gibsons are not that much better that you’d buy one for the price they are purely on the fact that it’s good. A reissue is much more worth your money.
      It only makes sense to buy expensive stuff if you’re into that. I know i would if i could afford that.

  • @darrenkangmusic
    @darrenkangmusic Před 3 lety +50

    Sad this place is closing. Seems like a joy to walk around and look.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +3

      I would be bored, I didn't make it to the end of the video. I would rather see the original guitar (or copy of One) that was played by a real musician. If the guitar is sealed behind glass anyway, a copy would be just as good. I'm thinking SRV's "First Wife", Clapton's Blackie and Brownie, Gilmour's Black Strat and Tele, Randy Rhoads' Flying Vs etc.

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 3 lety +1

      No, it is NOT sad. This was just dead instruments on display. This was morbid. Why the hell don't they ask top musicians to play great concerts, USING those icon guitars? I don't want a guitar grave yard.

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 3 lety

      Seems like too many guitar people NEVER went there. Seems like this business was not busy enough.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Před 3 lety

      @@voornaam3191 at least most Stradivarius and Gaurneri violins are played.

    • @adrianlee3497
      @adrianlee3497 Před 3 lety

      May as well turn it into a museum and forget about it. :/

  • @kingbassk83
    @kingbassk83 Před 3 lety +201

    The reason is simple: they make you play authentic!

    • @shuanglyu797
      @shuanglyu797 Před 3 lety +5

      Lol

    • @shuanglyu797
      @shuanglyu797 Před 3 lety +6

      Best to buy an Esp, Ibanez or Music man.These brands are truly worth the price.

    • @shanewalton8888
      @shanewalton8888 Před 3 lety +2

      @@shuanglyu797 Just bought an ESP LP last week.

    • @MooCow2X2
      @MooCow2X2 Před 3 lety +3

      Oof.
      Play authentic comes back again!

    • @Pauld62
      @Pauld62 Před 3 lety +2

      Haha. Nice one

  • @buncobooth
    @buncobooth Před 3 lety +441

    Is that 1 million with or without the headstock break ?

    • @ebathurst9216
      @ebathurst9216 Před 3 lety +14

      dftfujd dsrjdh yeah plus apparently it sounds better. Not that the guy able to afford a million dollar guitar would even play it.

    • @cherrypickerguitars
      @cherrypickerguitars Před 3 lety +3

      Buncobooth Oh, what a perfect zinger! Take that, collectors (and Gibson)
      Peace!

    • @lowqualityguitarvideos
      @lowqualityguitarvideos Před 3 lety +5

      Headstock break takes at least $1000 off.

    • @kingbassk83
      @kingbassk83 Před 3 lety +10

      I heard that rubbing Viagra makes the neck stiffer. They applied this during production, hence the price.

    • @marions.120
      @marions.120 Před 3 lety +7

      No case! ✌️🤪🎸🎶🎵🎶🎵

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam Před 3 lety +25

    As Warren Buffet says "the only way to know what something is worth is to sell it". If someone is willing to pay a $1M then that's what it's worth.

    • @geruto17760
      @geruto17760 Před 3 lety +4

      EXACTLY, let's face it, nobody's going to buy them at those prices.

    • @BarrySW19
      @BarrySW19 Před 3 lety +2

      What is worth depends on who shows up to the auction that day.

    • @ricklewis5804
      @ricklewis5804 Před 3 lety +1

      Scott Akam
      And it might be worth that to just one person. To many others it isn’t worth much at all.

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 3 lety

      @@BarrySW19 ... but, you're forgetting that it may only be for sale at that $1 million minimum price ... So, if you want to buy it, then that is the minimum price you have to pay ...

    • @BarrySW19
      @BarrySW19 Před 3 lety

      @@Jester-Riddle But if it doesn't sell at that minimum price then it's pretty hard to claim that it's worth that.

  • @SugarcatPlays
    @SugarcatPlays Před 3 lety +23

    Brian May and the “Red Special” are a good example. That guitar is not only priceless, it’s one of a kind.

    • @sschmidtevalue
      @sschmidtevalue Před 3 lety +3

      Who knows? Someday the Red Special may be up for grabs. That's easily going to be a million $ guitar. There are repros around if you just can't wait. Brian May has a couple for backup and alternate tuning. Ritchie Castellano has one and talks about it in one or two of his videos. There have been at least two manufacturers, so caveat emptor!

    • @lewismckenzie236
      @lewismckenzie236 Před 3 lety

      @@sschmidtevalue
      Much more than $1m. David Gilmour's black strat went for just shy of $4m.
      As great as Floyd were they don't have as much mainstream appeal as Queen.
      I wouldn't be surprised if some incredibly rich person who isn't even a collector ended up with it.
      Frankly it belongs with his kids.

    • @sschmidtevalue
      @sschmidtevalue Před 2 lety

      @David Wang For my part, I am happy with my moderate-priced Strat and Les Paul knockoffs. I would love a chance to play the original Red Special for a few minutes though! I'd probably drool all over it.

  • @awittypseudonym2520
    @awittypseudonym2520 Před 3 lety +14

    What I'll always say is that if I were given a mint condition top dollar vintage guitar, I'd sell it to a collector and buy a set of "player grade" vintage guitars. Repairs, mods, refins, heavy wear and tear, if those guitars were played to that stage, those are the ones that are going play and sound the best.

  • @chrissullins3
    @chrissullins3 Před 3 lety +6

    Thanks for the walkthrough. As a veteran I'm tearful regarding the story behind the 1963 Jaguar.

  • @jrr832
    @jrr832 Před 3 lety +40

    I bet the person who buys these guitars will never play them, they'll just be another item in their collection of nice things

    • @marions.120
      @marions.120 Před 3 lety +3

      If not played guitars go to sleep. Hard to wake up sometimes.

    • @markinthemix6055
      @markinthemix6055 Před 3 lety

      He’s a player.

    • @wj2454
      @wj2454 Před 3 lety

      @@markinthemix6055 ?

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed Před 3 lety +5

      They sort of become dead things, yes.
      Roy Buchanan's old Telecaster or Rory Gallagher's old Strat was alive and in connection with the universe. Holy cow.
      Then people buy guitars that were alive with those real artists, or they buy official COPIES. Those guitars if not played are more dead than some kid's Classic Vibe Squire or Epiphone from China, if that kid is on fire and plays music with love.
      I bet you lots of the more valuable Fender and Gibson Custom Shop guitars are dead. At least Kirk Hammet plays the Peter Green Burst, and Joe Bonamassa refuses to let vintage guitars become expensive dead things.
      Sorry for how dark this got LOL.

    • @harrisdouglas7229
      @harrisdouglas7229 Před 3 lety +5

      j freed Joe B’s got too many guitars to love them all - he’s taken it too far IMO he’s stopping people from using these wonderful things by hoarding them

  • @walthaus
    @walthaus Před 3 lety +15

    That "I'm just a custodian..." routine got old years ago. I have no issues with collectors at all but don't lie about the fact that you like to own these things and you like to be recognized as the owner of these things. Wanting to own things is the essence of being a collector after all. Preservation comes in a distant second at best.

    • @notthebannerboys
      @notthebannerboys Před 3 lety

      So... who owns the Songbird collection? His name doesn't get mentioned and if you look for it it's not easy to find. Is he just inept at social media/ Or are you wrong about his motives?

    • @fullclipaudio
      @fullclipaudio Před 3 lety

      I disagree. Preservation is first on my list with regards to the tools and instruments that I have. I spend a lot of time keeping old vacuum tube amps alive but I also have to work equally hard to keep the antique tools alive that service these amps. These devices were made by hand and I have an obligation to keep them working so that future generations can use these tools and instruments.

    • @FakingANerve
      @FakingANerve Před 3 lety

      The collection is owned by 5 anonymous owners. Unless he's one of them, I actually think he was just being honest.

  • @TornacenseDeFuturo
    @TornacenseDeFuturo Před 3 lety +234

    I can't afford even a normal Gibson guitar.

    • @jamesonnewhouse1298
      @jamesonnewhouse1298 Před 3 lety +5

      U should look into burny rlc, the older ones have exact same specs as gibson, and ngl they better for a quarter of the price

    • @tompoynton
      @tompoynton Před 3 lety +12

      You’re not missing much

    • @Justafeller
      @Justafeller Před 3 lety +1

      @@tompoynton I always wanted one and was in the position to buy one and then I weighed the pros and cons. Weight? My back is bad and if I was going to buy one at all, it'd have to be a standard. Don't care for the moderns, studios or specials. The headstock issues, but I could overlook that and try to be very careful. The tuning issues, but they came out with the string butler. The weight distribution of the guitar. That's something I couldn't get used to. The quality, but I see that's improved. Many obstacles, but even with a wide strap I just can't deal with 9 to 10 lb guitars which most of them are. I've seen 8.4 lb LPs, but rarely. My guitars are mostly in the 7lb range and that extra few pounds makes a huge difference for me after 30 minutes of playing. I'm getting old I guess. I still want one, but I think it would'nt get played enough. I'll stick to my Ibanez and PRS electric guitars I suppose.

    • @joeyjo-joshabadu9636
      @joeyjo-joshabadu9636 Před 3 lety +1

      most player's can't :(

    • @dylanadams1455
      @dylanadams1455 Před 3 lety

      @@Justafeller as someone who played an original RG for years, I coudn't believe how heavy a Les Paul was, esp.when it was so small! I still find the shorter scale length a little odd. I have a Yamaha AES620 Les Paul(ish) type gat that is lighter and a less litigous shape but basically the same thing. I'm glad it's lighter but I think if you spend a long time on one scale length you never really get used to the other.

  • @shanewalton8888
    @shanewalton8888 Před 3 lety +165

    They aren't worth that much unless someone actually buys one.

    • @onusgumboot5565
      @onusgumboot5565 Před 3 lety +9

      Like everything they are only worth what you can get someone to pay for it.
      Personally I wouldn't give more than 300 bucks for an explorer. That's what I paid for the one I have, and I never play it. Just don't find it comfortable.

    • @myrthenboermann5979
      @myrthenboermann5979 Před 3 lety +18

      I am selling my laptop for 2.000.000 dollars

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed Před 3 lety

      onus gumboot - you just have to get into early Def Leppard and Iron Maiden.

    • @dbuck5350
      @dbuck5350 Před 3 lety +7

      You are exactly right. You can say anything is worth x amount, but if you cant get anyone to pay that much, it is a fictitious, inflated value.

    • @shanewalton8888
      @shanewalton8888 Před 3 lety

      @@onusgumboot5565 Yeah, in my opinion the Explorer is the worst designed guitar out there.

  • @joelreeves
    @joelreeves Před 3 lety +3

    Driving 20 hours to Atlanta last year, we took a time out at Songbirds. Really glad we did - such an amazing place. Very sad other folks won't get to experience it now. Thanks for documenting this Rhett. Maybe and extended cut of all of your footage from last year and this trip together in one video? For posterity's sake?

  • @guitarjag1
    @guitarjag1 Před 3 lety +9

    I understand wanting one of everything, but having almost three dozen of a guitar people would kill for...that's pretty compulsive.

  • @cherrypickerguitars
    @cherrypickerguitars Před 3 lety +6

    Great little piece, Rhett! I’m 62, and you speak with the wisdom of a seasoned veteran!
    I’m so sorry Songbirds is closing. - I’d of loved to tour it! Poop! Anyway, the reason for the comment is to recognize your good sense - hanging out with Rick, Dave, Kieth et al, is paying off in spades!
    Soon, you’ll be the all knowledgeable cool old cat! Joni’s Circle Game beats us all, eventually.
    Keep up the great posts!
    Peace

  • @DeeTee79
    @DeeTee79 Před rokem

    I played a ‘54 Gibson Gold top yesterday. I could stare at and play vintage guitars all day. Thanks for sharing.

  • @j_drichmond
    @j_drichmond Před 3 lety +17

    I find it so interesting how different the violin world is to guitar: if these were violins, many of them would be on long term loaned to top musicians-just look at how many del Gesu’s are still played despite the $10+ million dollar price tag.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +2

      Yo-Yo Ma's performance cello (Petunia) is worth $2.5 million but he plays it. I would think the opposite would be true: Classical instruments on display and not being used, and guitars being used instead of displaying them. Even if the guitar owners don't want them used on the road, they could be used for studio work.

  • @godfreydaniel6278
    @godfreydaniel6278 Před 3 lety +81

    Nothing on earth is "worth " more than someone is willing to pay - not diamonds, Rembrandts, Ferraris, etc - nothing. You're willing to pay and have the scratch? Knock yourself out. As for me - if I had ten billion in my spare change drawer, I wouldn't spend a million dollars on a guitar - and I'm a guy who has five FINE guitars and six FINE amps - and doesn't play out...

    • @Pauld62
      @Pauld62 Před 3 lety +14

      Likewise. There is a line you just cant cross

    • @Arni142
      @Arni142 Před 3 lety +3

      If I was crazy rich I would buy something like that, because why not? :D But I would probably play some awful music or invite friends and let them play :) Or maybe I would give those guitars away :P

    • @DatBoi-mo9vc
      @DatBoi-mo9vc Před 3 lety +6

      @@Charlee_Murphee theres too many hungry people on the world for any one person to righteously amass that much wealth.

    • @Arni142
      @Arni142 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Charlee_Murphee you cannot help everybody :/

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed Před 3 lety +12

      Satilla gtr - the 'there's hungry people' line presents a false dichotomy and an empty virtue signal unless you are personally giving away everything (of your gear, money etc) you don't need to live so that others can eat better. It's a convenient cost-free moral posture otherwise.
      And even besides that, you don't know to judge what great good some rich people do the world with many of their transactions. Philanthropy. It really doesn't matter where they park their cash for a few years, and why not it be something they can appreciate. The art market sure needs them.
      A lot of the developing world also depends on you and me, living here in the global top 1 or 2 percent of wealth to live our lives and spend our money. You really wouldn't want to be in the 50th percentile of global wealth, it would get old real fast.

  • @russclewley6945
    @russclewley6945 Před 3 lety +4

    I have a 49 Gretsch New Yorker , in itself not a very expensive guitar. Now add in that my mother bought it new in 1950. She toured all over the USA and Hawaii in the 50's playing this very guitar. She left it to me several years before she passed away when she broke her hand and couldn't play anymore. This guitar is priceless to me. It will stay in my family forever.

  • @dubskj01
    @dubskj01 Před 3 lety +1

    You make a great point about the importance of collectors like these who are preserving something that's had such an important and mind-blowing influence on the cultural heritage of the last 40/50/60/70 years etc.

  • @conan218
    @conan218 Před 3 lety

    Zach dropping the knowledge - he knows so much about gear!
    Thank you for this video, Rhett! Its the only way I could have experienced Songbirds guitar museum.

  • @karliebellatrixyoung6359
    @karliebellatrixyoung6359 Před 3 lety +33

    The core of economics is supply and demand. Supply is actually fixed, but collectors like this guy and Norm own a shocking portion of all the surviving guitars of these types, effectively lowering supply further while demand might even increase due to the exhibition, resulting in prices getting even higher. The research about Stradivari shows that by modern standards they are basically hit or miss professional grade instruments, the reason that they are so treasured is that playing one puts you in contact with the whole string of amongst the best in the world players that have played them before you. Generally, Stradivari don't live behind glass, and only great playing ones fetch over a million. This is an exhibition of case queens.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +1

      Yo-Yo Ma's cello Petunia
      isn't a Stradivari, but his primary performance instrument is the cello nicknamed "Petunia", built by Domenico Montagnana in 1733, and valued at US$2.5 million. It was named Petunia by a student who approached him after one of his classes in Salt Lake City asking if he had a nickname for his cello.
      He performs with it and it is quite a bit more expensive than those million dollar guitars.

  • @GeoFitz4
    @GeoFitz4 Před 3 lety +11

    One thing to mention as well about these vintage guitars... often times, there is this thought of "Oh, there were amazing guitars made in the 50s and early 60s! They must all be amazing!" But the reality is that not all of them were amazing and there are a lot of flubs in the group. Just because a Burst is worth $200,000, doesn't mean that it plays or sounds as amazing as The Beast.

  • @michaelwillinger
    @michaelwillinger Před 3 lety

    Great video. Thanks for taking us along with you. I’ve never been there, and now will never be able to but at least I got a little taste. 👍

  • @jbourke33
    @jbourke33 Před 3 lety

    Just signed up to visit on Saturday. Been meaning to go and never got around to it. Thanks for bringing the closing to my attention!

  • @josearaujo8616
    @josearaujo8616 Před 3 lety +31

    In the grand scheme of things, I would rather have a 1million guitar than a 9,5 million stamp... Collectors live in a world of their own.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +2

      I would rather have ten different less expensive guitars and use them than one single guitar for that price.

    • @riproar11
      @riproar11 Před 3 lety +2

      And there are stamp-collector conventions...excuse me, Philatelic conventions with attending philatelics and philatelic products. What do they do there, drool over each others' collections??

    • @TheEchelon
      @TheEchelon Před 3 lety +1

      I'd rather have a one million mansion than anything costing a million. Priorities.

    • @michaelkeudel8770
      @michaelkeudel8770 Před 3 lety

      I'd rather keep the milion and use it for things I actually use or need, instead of having some materialistic object to hang on a wall.

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 Před 3 lety +4

    I worked a Allman brothers show in the late 80s . Dicky Betts had a goldtop, when it wasn’t in his hands . There was a guard next to it .

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +1

      There's nothing wrong with that, at least it was being played and not behind glass.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Před 3 lety +2

      Dickey apparently stripped his 57 Goldtop down himself in the early 90s and refinished it red.

  • @amlemay
    @amlemay Před 3 lety

    So sad to see the museum closing. I wish I had an opportunity to visit it and hope it can somehow come back, somehow in the future. Great vid Rhett!

  • @thebasementguitarist
    @thebasementguitarist Před 3 lety +1

    I was there on Saturday. Drove from Missouri when I heard they were closing. Amazing place. It's an absolute shame that they are closing.

  • @dpokor
    @dpokor Před 3 lety +204

    That's a pretty weird way to launder money

    • @thulsa_doom
      @thulsa_doom Před 3 lety +2

      Yep it is

    • @Fernando-ry5qt
      @Fernando-ry5qt Před 3 lety +2

      It is actually great, they can say a rock is worth 3 millions and nobody can say that's bullshit, and was a lot of money with no hassle

    • @realkarfixer8208
      @realkarfixer8208 Před 3 lety +7

      It's a great way, like classic cars, paintings, really anything like that. There is nothing intrinsically valuable about those guitars. The guys played them because that's what was available. Nostalgia, it's a hell of a drug.

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul Před 3 lety +2

      more of a tax shelter, as it is a museum of sorts... not a good investment unless you got in early IMO

    • @Fernando-ry5qt
      @Fernando-ry5qt Před 3 lety +3

      @growlingbehemoth Yup, white collar laundry tricks lol

  • @jrhill7767
    @jrhill7767 Před 3 lety +8

    I have an original Milton & Bradley guitar that my dad played as a child, i also played it and my son plays it today. After all this time we have only had to replace 2 of the plastic strings... PRICELESS.

    • @jrhill7767
      @jrhill7767 Před 2 lety

      @David Wang Rare, that is putting it lightly, I doubt there is another one on the planet. It also has Keith Richard's autograph on it. Is a $100,000 the best u can do ???

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid Před 3 lety

    Thanks Rhett for this video!

  • @normand123abc
    @normand123abc Před 3 lety

    Thanks man! Really really inspiring. You should do a road show that explores all of those kind of venues

  • @framusburns-hagstromiii808

    Speculators began running up vintage guitar prices in the late 70's and it really went nuts in the 80's....

  • @dylandoge1627
    @dylandoge1627 Před 3 lety +9

    The difference in buying a custom shop Jimmy page Les Paul for 10,000 and a real one for 1,000,000 is just 990,000

    • @aniksaha9169
      @aniksaha9169 Před 3 lety

      Your math is blowing my mind bruh!!

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 3 lety

      Do it. Buy a 10 grant or a 1,000 grant guitar. Who cares? Just don't banter until we get angry at you.

  • @paul_domici
    @paul_domici Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing this Rhett! These are Beautiful, Antique, works of Art! That's why I think they're worth so much!

  • @stnwrd
    @stnwrd Před 3 lety

    Very enjoyable and informative video. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @marions.120
    @marions.120 Před 3 lety +6

    I played the Les Paul the called “Goldie” and if it was to be sold the asking price was $1,000,000. Looked in my wallet and didn’t have it! Oh well. But I must say, it was a little overwhelming. ✌️🤪🎸🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶 Plus, Guitar’s not played go to sleep. Hard to wake up sometimes.

  • @Pauld62
    @Pauld62 Před 3 lety +4

    Joe B : which of my 11 59' les pauls am i taking on the road this time 🤔

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle Před 3 lety +2

    What always gets me and most likely a lot of others is when I reflect back on the rare kit that we used, traded, loaned out (but didn't get back), or even just plain lost during our younger years ...
    In my poverty and retrospective folly of getting 'better' kit to my view at the time, how many rare and exceptional items passed through my hands to my current regret ... I still don't know what exactly happened in particular to some old and rare Marshall Amps that were actually old and rare at the time and I knew as much ! No money and the need for newer and 'better' kit at the time always meant having to trade what you had ... but, those remain a mystery ...
    ... and those times that we passed on absolute classics as just a bit too much to afford.
    On the other hand, I have the memories which are priceless !

  • @nickprice4942
    @nickprice4942 Před 3 lety

    As a native of Chatt and as musician, losing songbirds hurts big time. The museum was incredible, and the venue itself was also a great place to play.

  • @ronnelson7828
    @ronnelson7828 Před 3 lety +4

    I've "heard" that Billy Gibbons turned down $5 million for his "Pearly Gates" '59 Standard.
    Bought it for like $250 or thereabouts.

  • @groverjuicy
    @groverjuicy Před 3 lety +74

    They may COST a million, they sure aren't WORTH it.

    • @badspy100
      @badspy100 Před 3 lety

      exactly my thought.there are much better instruments in every way today

    • @dylandoge1627
      @dylandoge1627 Před 3 lety +3

      I’ll take a 76 ibanez destroyer

    • @munta1967
      @munta1967 Před 3 lety

      I agree..no guitar is worth $1m

    • @14lamnc1
      @14lamnc1 Před 3 lety

      whether or not its worth it depends on the beholder. You saying its not worth it doesn't mean it isn't to someone else.

    • @mikethecollector
      @mikethecollector Před 3 lety +2

      In all honesty, they're insured for those costs, they only sell for tens of thousands at absolute max.

  • @dappawap
    @dappawap Před 3 lety

    The museum is not only important for guitar players. It is a very important part of musicology, music history and humanity. Many early instruments no longer exist due to climate and other factors.The story of the Esquire was my favourite. Thank you so much for this tour as I doubt I will ever get to see it. Cheers from Montreal.

  • @TheLoydal
    @TheLoydal Před 3 lety

    awesome video! thanks for making it.

  • @rustyaxelrod
    @rustyaxelrod Před 3 lety +5

    A good guitar gives inspiration to the player. It might be the tone, or the feel, or the look, or the history. Any of that could be crazy valuable. Can a guitar inspire a collector? I suppose it could but I have trouble getting my head around that. It’s in a case to be admired (which is not without some value) but it’s musical inspiration, where it’s real value is, is mute. I see a building full of instruments like this as collective pause in amazing songs that haven’t been written and performances that have yet to happen.

  • @chuckschillingvideos
    @chuckschillingvideos Před 3 lety +48

    "I'm not a collector"
    Meanwhile, four amp heads sit directly behind him. Hahahaha

    • @giannapple
      @giannapple Před 3 lety +3

      4, not 400

    • @oe542
      @oe542 Před 3 lety +2

      Being a collector is different. Collectors often only use their collection sparingly or in many cases not at all. Many collects are not even interested in the actual job their collection was intended to do.

    • @edwhite7475
      @edwhite7475 Před 3 lety

      @@oe542I'm a rescuer....i also have 3 dogs i can barely afford to feed....i cant stand to see a $50 HOMELESS unloved guitar.

    • @SoiledWig
      @SoiledWig Před 3 lety

      A collector would have those four amp heads, plus the same ones in every color and configuration released.

    • @maxlove8894
      @maxlove8894 Před 3 lety

      If you play them all to get different tones that’s fair enough. That doesn’t make you a collector

  • @zacharygoldberg5457
    @zacharygoldberg5457 Před 3 lety

    Rhett....This was kickass content! Awesome!

  • @zackboring3314
    @zackboring3314 Před 3 lety +1

    @7:00
    This just shows me that every guitar has a story, it has history

  • @jimmpanik3402
    @jimmpanik3402 Před 3 lety +4

    OMG! Why is this just getting out now!? If I had known about this, I'd definitely take a trip to see this before it's gone forever. I'm surprised someone like Joe Bonamassa hasn't mentioned this on his channel to get a huge spike of people to go to this piece of history.

  • @Sco3000
    @Sco3000 Před 3 lety +27

    Incredible instruments... too bad they arent getting played.

    • @AirSoftGod001
      @AirSoftGod001 Před 3 lety +5

      not really incredible when they arent any better than a guitar worth $1k

    • @Sco3000
      @Sco3000 Před 3 lety +3

      @@AirSoftGod001 im not interested in your opinion, but thats's fine if u dont care about vintage guitars

    • @badspy100
      @badspy100 Před 3 lety +3

      modern guitars and basses are way better.i have 1968 jb(original)from my late uncle and a yamaha jp from 2000. jb is really great but yamaha is much much better in everything.and it sound better of course.better fretboard,better
      electrics better keys,better everything.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 Před 2 lety +1

      collectors ruin everything for people who just wanna play stuff and not care at all what its "price" is...

  • @shaunw9270
    @shaunw9270 Před 3 lety

    Great video . Always nice to see the real thing 👌

  • @albertplaysguitar
    @albertplaysguitar Před 3 lety

    You're absolutely right about what you said there at the end. I know I take for granted all the origins of the instrument that I love... Places like this DO need to exist... The knowledge must be passed on!!!

  • @jambajoby32
    @jambajoby32 Před 3 lety +79

    That’s what they’re asking not what they’re worth

    • @annekedebruyn7797
      @annekedebruyn7797 Před 3 lety +12

      I agree.
      If you have 10 guitars out of a 100 of a guitar that isn't really so much sought after to begin with, it's very easy to just make up your own price.
      It's a cool guitar but the price is silly.

    • @shanewalton8888
      @shanewalton8888 Před 3 lety +4

      They're Gibsons, so we know the quality is crap.

    • @whocares.20
      @whocares.20 Před 3 lety +6

      This is all ridiculous greedy morons trying to make a buck off someone else's fame. Similar to B Jackson auction rip off crap on cars. Think, with 1 mill you can buy 2000, even 4000 decent guitars, that play music. Definitely won't get a penny from me. Collectors, stop paying those idiot prices.

    • @michaelschreiner95
      @michaelschreiner95 Před 3 lety +4

      It has been paid for them before. Simple supply and demand. Very few originals made.

    • @jambajoby32
      @jambajoby32 Před 3 lety +2

      Michael Schreiner if you’ve played an original you know the parts are brittle & that’s why no one really plays them.

  • @j_freed
    @j_freed Před 3 lety +7

    I think it's funny they compare a masterfully hand-carved Stradivari violin (a product of intuition and inspiration) to a mass-produced slab-body electric guitar made using industrialized technology / the cheapest & most minimal aesthetic effort.
    Strads will still likely mean WAY more in 200 years than even the best electric guitars. I hate to say that because I feel guitar in pop music is not done yet. We really can't t say.

  • @thep2pband
    @thep2pband Před 3 lety

    I really wish I could have seen this in person. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jesushair2784
    @jesushair2784 Před 3 lety

    Love songs birds. Took the private room where this vid was shot. Have several pics holding several of the guitars. Wonderful tour to the vault.

  • @RiotHomeRecording
    @RiotHomeRecording Před 3 lety +4

    They’re worth what someone will pay for them, if someone bought one for a million doesn’t mean they can sell it for a million.

  • @texasfreedomlover4730
    @texasfreedomlover4730 Před 3 lety +3

    In the early 90’s I used to help out Chuck Rainey, behind the scenes: and I drove him to a bass clinic that he was conducting at Sam Gibbs music store in Wichita Falls, Texas.
    Sam was the road manager for Bob Wills, if I recall correctly.
    Anyway I was admiring some guitars in his store that were hung up very high on the wal and they were not for sale.
    Sam asked me if I played guitar, and I said yes I do sir.
    Immediately after that he had an employee begin bringing those guitars into his office and he allowed me to play them.
    They ranged in type from an early Rickenbacker skillet lap steel to WW2 Gibson guitars, etc...
    A truly once in a lifetime opportunity.

  • @markprice1847
    @markprice1847 Před 3 lety

    Did the tour last spring, and got to hold a '58 burst and a '56 Strat. Very cool experience.

  • @ksgtrpkr
    @ksgtrpkr Před 3 lety +2

    So sad to see Songbirds closing!! Such a fantastic place for families!

  • @tommydee1981
    @tommydee1981 Před 3 lety +16

    Nice "Back to the Future" joke. Rhett you missed it! ;)

    • @zorkwhouse8125
      @zorkwhouse8125 Před 3 lety

      I was about to comment on that when I saw yours :-)

  • @-JohnGalt-
    @-JohnGalt- Před 3 lety +6

    Did that guy just say the set of Gibson's was owned by Rick Beato?

    • @HenritheHorse
      @HenritheHorse Před 3 lety +3

      I heard that too, but the guys name is Rick Vito!

    • @-JohnGalt-
      @-JohnGalt- Před 3 lety +2

      @@HenritheHorse Haha, I knew I was trippin'! Thanks brother!

  • @jghillstudio1857
    @jghillstudio1857 Před 3 lety

    Cool man...glad you guys went and shared your trip...would like to have seen Dave Onarodo there with you...anyway great video...

  • @maxdevlin4349
    @maxdevlin4349 Před 3 lety

    Awww man, sorry to hear they are closing the museum as I am going to be taking a trip through Tennessee early this fall, and that would have been a great stop to make.

  • @rubenpuglisi5334
    @rubenpuglisi5334 Před 3 lety +17

    But they give you the gig bag too ? Right??

  • @Pauld62
    @Pauld62 Před 3 lety +5

    Hendrix played a post CBS strat.
    There is a point hidden somewhere in that short sentance 😏

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +2

      I said it above, but I would rather see a copy of Hendrix's Strat (or any of his guitars) in a glass case than a bunch of cases of guitars played by people I never heard of.

    • @zeerust2000
      @zeerust2000 Před 3 lety +1

      Hendrix played new gear off the shelf. Why would he be bothered with a vintage instrument? It was the music that was important to him.

  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet Před 3 lety

    Nice vid mate, well done.

  • @K6HR
    @K6HR Před 3 lety

    Irv Berner! Hey Irv! Greetings from "The King" Great to see you're still having fun with music!

  • @OfficialWhitson
    @OfficialWhitson Před 3 lety +3

    The only Explorer worth a million bucks is Allen Collins Explorer that he bought from Eric Clapton.

    • @greghenderson4856
      @greghenderson4856 Před 3 lety

      I have never ever heard that story before. I know Clapton had his explorer in 83 for the Arms tour !! And he had the famous Cut Tail Explorer in the late 70's, just wandering where you got that information I am not saying its not true ...I just know what I know !!!

  • @analogaudiorules1724
    @analogaudiorules1724 Před 3 lety +16

    Not worth the money lmao, after the novelty wears off in 3 to 6 months, you'll be kicking your self for spending your life savings on something that is only special due to its age, im sure it sounds great and perhaps a bit "different" then a current version... but is it different enough for what they are asking, even if it was, it is only this much money because of the sentimental factor... there are exceptions... but this is ridiculous...

    • @ulricclayton3428
      @ulricclayton3428 Před 3 lety +8

      did you pay any attention to the video? you're not buying the wood, pots and man labor, you're paying for its historical value and future significance. Those are not aspects that a poor person considers when they buy stuff, and that is because they can't afford it.

    • @reallyanti
      @reallyanti Před 3 lety +2

      Literally nobody in the world is spending their life-savings on these.
      People are spending their monthly allowance on one. Then "lending it to a museum for display" so they can claim it as a charitable donation on their taxes. Just typical money laundering bullshit.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ulricclayton3428 I don't buy the "future significance" bit. I doubt that in a 10 years any of those guitars will be displayed anywhere besides the collector's home.

    • @analogaudiorules1724
      @analogaudiorules1724 Před 3 lety

      @@edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Exactly

    • @analogaudiorules1724
      @analogaudiorules1724 Před 3 lety

      @@ulricclayton3428 And did you read my comment? These guitars are far over priced, historical value or not... these aren't any more special than a modern example...

  • @velosouk
    @velosouk Před 3 lety

    Thanks Rhett!!!
    Amazing.

  • @Gman-df5ft
    @Gman-df5ft Před 3 lety

    Great video/let buddy talk and not interrupting. Thanks alot!

  • @Jopeymessmusic
    @Jopeymessmusic Před 3 lety +4

    Shit, the sawdust of black limba is carcinogenic? That wood is having a renaissance in certain boutique guitar manufacturers of today. Presumably there's little to no sawdust while using a CNC machine. Interesting to note that was a factor in stopping production.

    • @oe542
      @oe542 Před 3 lety +1

      I would guess they’re using respirators and dust collection systems as well as CNC machines would closed doors. Years ago they probably didn’t know the sawdust was carcinogenic until after people got sick.

  • @jimistheman9732
    @jimistheman9732 Před 3 lety +4

    This just makes me sad. The "collectors" i.e. very rich people and/or performers have driven the prices for these to insane levels. That just drags up the whole market and makes it close to impossible for the average guy just to buy any good guitar, let alone a nice vintage guitar... which used to be a possibility. As for "it's worth a bundle because so-and-so played it". No, sorry, that doesn't add any value to it as an instrument - at least not to me - unless it comes with that person giving lessons as part of the deal.

    • @danieldesoto6787
      @danieldesoto6787 Před 3 lety

      Thank you ! You took the words right out. It is so frustrating 😡 and I can't believe no one really sees that or really gives a shit. This is one of the reasons why most can't afford a fuckin Les Paul. I bought a LP for 1700 and that burn a hole in my life lol😂 it was used but I had to look for a long while for a deal. The market is ridiculous now.

    • @leeonardodienfield402
      @leeonardodienfield402 Před 3 lety

      yeah no supply and demand has driven the price. it's really basic economics. if there's a market for rare or historic items, especially if there are only a few in the world with billions of potential people between these items, the price goes up.

  • @j.r.777
    @j.r.777 Před 3 lety

    I just bought an all original 1958 Fender Stratocaster that has spent most of its life in its case. The guitar is fully functional and in flawless condition. The body is from 06/58 and the neck is from 07/58. Volume and tone pots are from the 25th week from 1958. It sucks that this place is closing its doors because I would love to get in touch with them about my guitar.

  • @elducko1951
    @elducko1951 Před 3 lety

    Quite interesting!!!
    Thanks for sharing

  • @edgycontent6101
    @edgycontent6101 Před 3 lety +4

    Too bad their closing, had no idea they existed until now but too bad I’ll never get to go there.

    • @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847
      @edwardjamyangmacarchick1847 Před 3 lety

      Yes, it's odd that such a place existed for a few years but a lot of us had no idea. I would think the Guitar magazines or Rolling Stone would have had articles on it. Maybe he purposely avoided advertising.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Před 3 lety +7

    I think it goes without saying that if Gibsons from the 50s are worth a million, you know you're going to be in for a great story behind them!

  • @EricShreds
    @EricShreds Před 3 lety

    Dude thanks for this video I always wanted to go here but never got a chance. Thank you

  • @mikepfeifer3687
    @mikepfeifer3687 Před 3 lety

    Great video!!! WAY OVER THE TOP collection‼️

  • @burnsanchez
    @burnsanchez Před 3 lety +4

    For 1 MILLION guitar!
    - i can get the finest custom guitars
    - finest amps in the market
    - fully loaded Studio
    - a big house
    - a GF
    - Plus you can feed poor people/homeless
    And i bet whoever will buy that guitar will not use it, so why you're spending a million guitar just to collect dust and molds, and can't make music out of it?

    • @barrypaul4199
      @barrypaul4199 Před 3 lety +4

      But the person who drops $1million on a guitar already has a $10million house & trophy wife. In economics we call it “conspicuous consumption”.

  • @kujo5998
    @kujo5998 Před 3 lety +3

    “Personally i dont feel the need to collect multiple different, etc...”
    He says while standing in front of his 4 different amp heads and god knows how many guitars and speaker set ups!! Lol

    • @kujo5998
      @kujo5998 Před 2 lety

      @David Wang haha right to morons huh? Are you like his knight in shining armor or something?? It was a joke kid. Settle down.
      I’m a musician myself. I don’t need a lesson from a youtube comment section fake tough guy..
      it was funny. You know, a joke?!

  • @bigmoviesify
    @bigmoviesify Před 3 lety

    This was great - I like the history about the guitars with the stories.

  • @nclauser42
    @nclauser42 Před 3 lety

    I loved how you said "commoners like you and me...." In a way I hear, "you can play like me with work and time." Inspiring dude.

  • @barryjoslin432
    @barryjoslin432 Před 3 lety +4

    “Commoners like you and me.”
    Hahaha. Rhett, you exceeded “commoner” status a while ago, bud.

  • @DickEnchilada
    @DickEnchilada Před 3 lety +3

    The last time I was this early, these guitars were dirt cheap!

  • @landguitar
    @landguitar Před 3 lety

    Very interesting, Rhett, thanks for showing us this before it closed. I had never heard of it. Would be really hard to see all those incredible guitars behind glass and not be able to play them! I think a number of folks in the comments confuse value and worth; they are the same in that they are whatever someone will pay for them. Many of these have provenance, which increases value, like the Rick Vito guitars, some are just that unique in some way. This is an amazing modern music (1950's forward) collection of musical Americana, and I agree that although guitars should be played, when they become of such value and worth, it's hard to take them "out of the house". Great to see them on display, even if not for much longer. Better than just in a real vault, out of sight. Thanks again!

  • @charlesbolin7249
    @charlesbolin7249 Před 3 lety

    Wow, that place is awesome. Lots of what you saw there I've only seen in books and heard stories about from my father. I hope at some point they open up again, I'd love to take the family to visit.