This is Just Sad! S4 EP4
Vložit
- čas přidán 7. 04. 2024
- What a Loss
www.gofundme.com/f/the-2nd-em...
#DIY #Antiques #Victorian #Restoration #lift #repair
Interested in some of our merch? Here's the link: the-2nd-empire-strikes-back.m...
Patreon: / thesecondempirestrikes...
Theme music by: Cameron Bradbrook
soundcloud.com/cameron-bradbrook
bradbrookmusic@gmail.com
For Business Inquiries please email us at the2ndempirestrikesback@gmail.com
If you'd like to send us a letter or package please send it here:
The 2nd Empire Strikes Back
PO Box 2601
St Louis, MO 63116
Kim's Channel: / @secondempirestrikesba...
Instagram: / the_2nd_empire_strikes...
Tiktok: / the2ndempirestrikesback
Campbell House: www.campbellhousemuseum.org/
Magic Chef Mansion: magicchefmansion.com
^^^Seriously if you visit St. Louis and love all things Victorian go here^^^
Completed Projects (2021): New Roof, New Water Service, New Windows (Partial), Boiler Work, Sewer Lateral, Tuckpointing, Plaster Repair (Partial), Wood Floors (Partial), Electric Service (Partial)
Projects to Complete in 2022: Limestone Restoration of Front Elevation, Rebuild Mansard, New Windows (Partial), Complete Plaster Work (2nd Floor and Back Hallway 1st Floor, Kitchen and Dining Room), Plumbing Stacks and Rough in Plumbing, Complete Electric, HVAC (Basement and 1st Floor), High Velocity AC and Heat (2nd Floor), Mini Splits (3rd Floor), Framing on 3rd Floor, Rebuild of Front Cornice Work and Copper Gutter System, Rebuilding of Dormers
The loss of the historic church is so upsetting. It points out that fire is the biggest threat to historic communities, and can’t be regulated through preservation ordinances. I believe that it is critically important to photograph all buildings in historic neighborhoods in case there is a fire. Don’t assume that somebody else has done it, or that you will remember what something looked like once it is gone. This is an excellent role for an armchair preservationist who doesn’t have the skills to.replicate millwork or salvage windows. Use the camera on your cellphone to take pics and upload them into an inventory of what makes your community special. Barring that, encourage every homeowner to take lots of pics of their own homes. If nothing else, it is helpful for insurance purposes.
So true. Near me we lost 3 buildings to fire. A 100+ year old farm house, and two 100+ year old store/apartment buildings in the next city over. The city is likely going to demolish the neighboring buildings which are also 100+ which makes me so upset because those buildings aren’t in bad shape. I think they are just scared of another fire but demolishing the still standing historic buildings isn’t going to stop future fires. I hope they change their minds and leave the remaining buildings alone.
Same on 2nd avenue in the East Village neighborhood of NYC we lost an important historic church to a fire.
I think we should investvin 3-D laser scans similar to the ones being used to reconstruct Notre Dame as well.
@@crazyguy_1233 but how those building caught fire in first place?
Did someone "helped" them to burn down?
@@krewetkaaaa Not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if it was arson by a bored group of teens.
Two churches? Suspicious. Glad you salvaged some of the old church
Was my first thought too. In addition to the burnt down abandoned victorian home opposite the Charles S. Brown house and if I remember correctly the burnt down fire watch (also in a historical building) it seems to be an above average of fires. But when you look at the nice patches of 'unused' green there you got to assume there'd be interest in building new appartment blocks to have a nice and well-paid view on the neatly restored historic houses.
That was kinda my thought as well
Caleb your patience,perseverance and attention to detail never ceases to amaze me. Please give your back plenty of time to heal!
More than 300 people are leaving comments now. He's not gonna read these. The little community surrounding this project, involving subscribers, doesn't really exist anymore.
Seeing that neighborhood from the air...it really is so very sad. I imagine back in the day, when that area was full of families, hard working people, kids on bikes, Sunday church goers...that fabric of America. So very sad indeed. Thank you for all you do.
So sad that the beautiful old church was lost. Unfortunately it is happening more and more in lots of places. They were works of art. Continue to be impressed by your efforts to do things right as you go.
We lost a church in Toledo, not by fire, just from neglect, as did a town in Rhode Island.
@@kathywiseman7944 Unfortunately St. Augustine was heading in that direction. If this fire hadn't happened, it would probably would've lasted a little longer, but still had to come down in the near future. A few weeks before this fire, someone had posted on Facebook that part of the roof had collapsed. One of the local preservation experts had even said last year that Augustine would most likely end up being a demolition.
@@justinzeid212 I am not from USA. Why are those churches neglected and not taken care of?
In my country churches are one of things in the best shape....in opposite to houses, castles, old palaces in private hands
"Prep work makes the dream work." Truer words were never spoken.
Try to salvage the things you can. Incorporate these things in your home. Doing this ensures the history will not be forgotten. ❤
Thanks for reaching out to save as much of the old church as soon possible. We all have a responsibility to help save history. Here in Denver's Lower Highland neighborhood we have a beautiful old church with large stained glass windows at the end of our block. The congregation is a very good neighbor, and they lovingly keep the church in good shape.
Do you watch Escape to rural France with Dan? If you don’t, I think you would like it. He is doing an amazing job.
I absolutely love Dan and Nick and Cameron and orange pants man and now Cat 😊
Love the whole team! And the doggos!
I'm also a follower of Escape to rural France.
I tuned in daily for the upbeat music stayed for the chateau rebuild. 😂🤣👍
Dan is such a hard worker and has made amazing progress on reconstructing a burnt out shell.
I also watch Escape to Rural France and am amazed at the work he has done and has to do! He is so upbeat
Please check your fireplace above that patch and see if there is a trap door in the bottom of the fireplace. If there is that spot is the dumping spot for the ashes. And there was an iron door in the wall below the fireplace to be able to clean the dump box. My aunt had one. Just curious.😮
The loss of that beautiful church is such a terrible shame ... thank goodness you have rescued the wooden window arch (which is an utterly sublime piece❤) its history lends it even greater charm.
Always lovely to get an update from you .. the walls look amazing !
The loss of the church is agonizing and a loss to the community. Glad you're feeling kinda sorta better.
I feel sometimes that we are fighting a losing battle. I hear chainsaws in my neighborhood all the time.
For some reason people have this vendetta against trees here. My neighbor down the street cut five perfectly healthy trees around his house.
This is a neighborhood that back in the 1930's planted rows of pine trees as windbreaks as part of the CCC plan to provide natural wind breaks and erosion stoppers.
Like my best friend says all we can do is keep our own little slice as best as we can!
Suggestion 14:49 for that outside water spigot on the front of your house: I would suggest putting a master cutoff valve in the basement so that you can turn off the outside spigot when not in use. The last thing you want is to have some neighborhood kid turn your water on during the middle of the night or when you're not home and let a couple thousand gallons of water run out into the street. I prefer using a brass ball valve inside as a master cutoff, they don't drip and don't have to change rubber gaskets every couple of years. Something to think about and save yourself some grief down the line.
As a person who has had four back surgeries, I can attest to your suffering.
Ibuprofen, moist heat on mid back muscles, ice pack on lower back on L4, L5, and L6 region will relax muscles and reduce swelling in the lower back joints.
Take it easy for a couple of weeks and wear a back brace when working.
It's important to take it easy for a couple of weeks because if you insist that you're alright and do the macho thing, then you're just going to keep aggrevating the injury and make it worse.
Oh, god! I hope you haven’t done your back any long term damage. Back injuries can hang around a lot longer than you might initially think.
Such a shame about the damage to the churches, but if you’re able to salvage some materials, at least it’s not a total loss.
Luckily I work at an urgent care now where we get free visits so if it flares back up I’ll drag him in.
Given the ornate faucet you have for use outside, when you re-plumb that line, you might consider adding a shut-off valve inside, and a drain spigot between it and the outside faucet, to get the water out each fall.
I don't think you need a drain, as long as the outside tap is the lowest point, you can just open it in the winter
Yeah, I wrote that before he said he was running the pipe from the ceiling. Thanks
What a sad loss! That church was beautiful.
I heard about St Augustine’s fire. I hate that they have demolished it. It’s unfortunate they wouldn’t rebuild. These old churches are being lost so quickly across the world. I’m glad you saved some of it from going to the landfill. I wish I lived out there I’d probably have done the same as you did. The urban explorers were very upset with the loss alongside us historians.
Hello Caleb... Sorry to hear about the Church. I'm glad you were able to get some pieces. Your walls are looking great! Looking forward to the next episode. Warmer days are coming. Hugs❤
Happy birthday Kaleb. It's always sad when a piece of history is destroyed. Hopefully something nice will replace it. It won't be as nice though.
Oh and a big happy birthday to you.
The care you show, not only for your house, but for the entire community and its history is a really beautiful thing
A pneumatic needle hammer would make the job of removing cement done faster with good results, and save your back.
NHL 3.5 is Not for pointing - it is for external rendering on the lower part of a wall where you will have splash back from rain hitting the ground, i.e. you use it on the first 1 meter. NHL 3.5 only has circa 30% Lime Content. NHL 2.0 is the best NHL and has a Lime content of maximum 40% (the remaining 60% is filler and Not Lime). If you wish to use an NHL then use NHL 2.0 for Pointing.
The correct Lime to use is CL 90 - this is what was originally used to build this house. CL 90 has 90% Lime. It is far superior to NHL Lime (2.0/3.5). CL 90 can be used to make a Traditional Hotlime Mix, or it can be slaked to create Lime Putty.
Lime Putty needs a minimum of 6 months to mature before you use it. In fact the older the Lime Putty gets, the better it is. You must always store Lime Putty submerged in Water and ensure it never has any air come into contact with it.
CL 90 will make Lime Render, Lime Plaster and Lime Wash. It is also way cheaper than NHL and a far far far superior product to use and will last much longer than NHL Limes. Make a Lime mix using CL 90 and put it on the hawk and you will never have it fall off if you turn the hawk upside down. Try that with NHL 2.0/3.5/5.0 and you will have a mess on the floor.
Note when you make a Lime wash with CL 90, it will be similar to modern paint in coverage. But if you make a Limewash from NHL, it is very watery and requires coat after coat to build up the layers to cover the wall in Limewash. One coat of CL 90 Limewash will give you a finished product.
Super helpful information. Thank you, that has just steered me in the correct direction on my renovation.
@@fullboatya welcome. I suggest you search for tutorials on mixing CL 90 (Traditional Hotlime mix). The most educational will be any video with Nigel Copsey (he doesn't have his own channel). He works with the National Trust in England and specializes on working on old historic buildings. You will find several videos people have filmed of him explaining in detail/tutorial how to mix the Lime to create proper traditional Lime Render, Mortar and Lime wash. It is very easy to do, so don't be afraid to try.
wow thanks I really needed this. been scratching my head wondering what to use for my historic home. will look for a supplier and get some cl90.
@@user-zi3uf4ix7m search for Quicklime / Calcium Oxide / Traditional Lime Powder /CL90 when searching for a supplier in your area. You can also get a CL80 in some places - this is just 80% pure lime, as opposed to 90% for CL90. Ideally get CL90 if you have the choice. Good luck on your Project.
The wall lools really good! You are doing such great work in preserving this house. Glad toa watch as it all gets done!
That wall looks incredible! Hope it'll be nice for the next 100 years :)
And I'm so glad you could find enough slate-I'm sure the craftsmen many years ago who shaped them would be happy you have them instead of a dump!
The fires are a terrible, try to get as much as you can . You might be able to put it in a garden . You can use the bricks for a walkway . An arch would be so cool in an garden. Great job on the wall.
Such a pity about the church, that was truly a masterpiece of a structure. I'm so glad you were able to save some remnants. The stone walls are looking terrific. The brick walls in our dirt-floor basement are downright scary in comparison! I'm off now to get ready to view the solar eclipse in about an hour. Can you see it in St. Louis?
Glad your back is better. Have you given consideration to talking to the demolition crew at the church to see if they might salvage some remaining roof slate for you? Possibly some of the bricks for garden edging or patio pavers? We took out an old chimney in our house and re-purposed the bricks into several yard projects.
OH! And a happy belated birthday!
What an absolute tragedy about those historic churches, especially the one that won’t be rebuilt. St Louis is lucky to have your determination to preserve what you can of its history and legacy. Those walls are looking amazing, and I hope you’re recovering well. The time and effort you’re taking to clean and repair everything really shows. You’re doing incredible work! Thanks for the update and take care.
Yes the wall definitely looks really good! The right stair treads on the stairs will just enhance it. Both churches burned? Ideological war casualties? Great episode.
Real shame about the church, but its good some of the spoil will end up being really useful for the renovation of the mansard. My parents reroofed years ago and that cost a fortune. In the UK we have rules about heritage buildings and that made sourcing the slate very, very expensive. 👍👍
Consider incorporating the window frame as a window over your door into your shop when you rebuild it
Caught fire? Probably arson.
Two churches within weeks? Never really believed in coincidence.
@@pitsnipe5559St Liborius fire started in the rectory kitchen, but this one… who knows. There have been a lot of church fires all around the city.
@@kimberlythompson719😞😞
@@kimberlythompson719 Sadly it's all too easy for someone to make a mistake and send these old buildings up in a flash. Not dismissing the possibility of arson, but the one I grew up in burned down because a painter left a piece of cotton dropcloth over a floodlight set to automatically come on at sunset.
The basement walls are looking great! I have done this before in a 1923 home so I know the work involved. Just run a dehumidifier in spring and summer and you will be amazed how nice and dry it stays with the lime mortar. No musty smelling old basement. They really knew what they were doing with these materials, we've just unfortunately lost the knowledge to care for them properly and people put in the cement and waterproofing.
Kaleb, a question for you on the brick that needs replacing under your fireplace. Is it possible that the space that they used for running that water line might have been part of an ash pit for the fireplace? If you have a grate or trap door in the floor of the fireplace upstairs that would be an indication that part of that space was originally open allowing for easy clean out of ashes from the fireplace. The brick is definitely some sort of later modification but if the fireplace has a provision for an ash pit you might not have to fill that entire void with stone if you restore the ash pit. Just a thought to save you some time and stone.
That was my thought as well.
It is such a beautiful church, I wish for its immediate restoration.
Happy Birthday
Is that spigot water pipe going through wall where the old ash clean out was? That could explain the large about of rebricking. Do other places have cleanouts and might this be where you have to restore the clean out?
I think you're right about this!
Broken slate makes beautiful garden paths
Hi Kaleb today is the eclipse I'm in Louisville Kentucky with my sun glasses for it to happen at 2 in the afternoon. Thanks for sharing this about what has happened to a historic church 😔 sad.
Search for saldator glasses , sunglasses are not enough
I still see slate up there at the church. Maybe you can get the figure on that steeple.
Thank you for saving part of St Auggie’s. I graduated from that beautiful parish in 1967. This breaks my heart. So many wonderful memories. I am very happy you are continuing to honor Old North St. Louis. All the best to you.
The roof is looking great! Good job!
Fabulous job, Caleb! That wall is absolutely gorgeous! 😃👍🏼
One of my followers on Instagram shared this with me. I cannot believe how little was saved from this beautiful building. Thank you for saving what you could.
Thanks!
Two churches burning? Arson!
That wall looks amazing. Great job. I feel your passion on the losing of our old structures. History is disappearing. It's sad.
So the church is your next project then? 😊
One recommendation for you is to buy a 1910’s era 78RPM shellac record player and some shellac records to play while doing tours!
really looks good now, nice job!
The Inkas couldn’t do it better! 😚
The loss of that beautiful church is devastating as an historic masterpiece and as a cornerstone of your historic neighborhood, where there is so much already lost! So happy you are able to reap some benefit from the remains!
Such a nice job on the wall! The slate is wonderful and will be great repurposed for your roof. Really smart to salvage as much as you can to be reused. Relax and take care of your back. Happy belated Birthday Caleb!🎂🎉🎈🎁. ❤ to Kim too.
I am so sad that beautiful historic church in your neighborhood burned down. I would guess the cause was likely an unhoused person lighting a fire for warmth and light, but losing control of it. However, I can't tell you how happy I am that you were able to salvage some slate for your roof. That is so perfectly appropriate and I just want to say that it's wonderful that you saved part of the church and will be reusing it in the same neighborhood. Kudos to you!
Such a loss. I love old architecture and it hurts my soul when a beautiful building is lost. I hope your back feels better soon, don't rush back, rest and heal.
Your role from house restoration CZcamsr to community leader is such a great thing.
It is kind of suspicious that all of these beautiful old structures are going up in flames.
I had read some personal stories and pictures from people of churches in St. Louis that had met similar fates. I follow some STL pages on Facebook because I love the city. Every single time one of these amazing churches is lost it shatters my heart. As you said, generations were married, baptized, received First Holy Communion, and were confirmed. The loss of the church will not take away from these beautiful sacraments, but losing the beautiful historical church and the architecture is a tragedy.
Do you know what caused the fires? Is this the work of an arsonist?
It's cool to see you reusing all of the history building material. Having foundation stones rise out of the ground when it's really wet must have been interesting the first time you noticed.
Was it arson?
This was my first thought too. It’s been happening lately and just the thought makes me sad. 😢
So sorry to hear about tge beautiful church but so glad you're able to rescue some of the materials. Happy Birthday!
Caleb, you are doing awesome work and I love that you are such and architectural history buff. I had an idea that you may have thought of already. What about using the window as a window above the front door of the working museum you plan to build when you are able to get Mr. Hall's lot. You can also incorporate the pocket doors you are hanging onto. Please be safe and take care of yourself.
That’s an awesome idea!
Wouldn't it be cool for Caleb to learn stained glass working and put a "H & B" in the center window?
Glad you were able to save one of the beautiful architectural elements!
Your basement wall is stunning. I watch castle restoration, especially in France, and your work is as beautiful as any of theirs. I did not know there was such a beautiful old building remaining to be resurrected in St Louis. Thank you for saving this building and for salvaging whatever you could from the church that burned. I feel suspicious that two nearby churches burned within a short time of each other. It hurts to know that the beauty of those buildings is lost. Your work is excellent.
@Kelly Williams thanks so much for looking up what that wood product you were talking about in the live chat is!
So sad about the church. The one I grew up in had a similar fate when I was in college. It was 19th century and full of cherry and oak. I'm so glad you are rescuing some of the pieces!
This was the church my family went to when we lived in the city. I was baptized and made my first communion in this church.
Your patience is devine. Your perfection is admirable.
So happy to see your restoration efforts using antique techniques. You are restoring actual history! So sorry about the church. It cannot be replaced like it was. But your house will shine for many years to come. Mr Brown would be very proud of you and Kim! Keep up the great work.
We’ve lost three landmarks in Cleveland recently to fires, two of which were churches. We feel your pain.
Happy late birthday I have missed your videos. You are doing something so amazing and incredible keep it up and in no time you’ll be back in the house getting it in shape
Your stone wall is gorgeously done.
The loss of the Church is quite terrible, but at least some of it will contribute to your house. I trust your house will have a built in fire suppression system?
such a sad thing to see the skeletons of that old church... so to say something positive: the wall looks amazing! when you started that project i was like, oh yeah, thats just a stone wall. whatever. but now, in it's new (and not even fully finished!!) shape, i GET it. it looks so clean and welcoming.
Stonework can be an attractive feature on a home. Pointing the stone brings out its stunning beauty. I've watched CZcamsrs renovate old farmhouses in rural France and Italy and have done the same in their ancient homes.
How horribly sad to lose that beautiful church. I hope that whatever replaces it is sensitive to the architecture of the neighborhood. Perfectly fitting that some remnants of the church will be incorporated into your home👍
So Sad to lose 2 churches 😪😪
Great job on the stone work 👍🤗
Love Sue❤❤❤🇬🇧❤❤❤
HAPPY B-DAY CALEB!!! Please be careful, heal well. So sad about the church. Glad you were able to save some things.
Did you ask and they gave you the items from the church? Or did you have to pay for them? I'm just curious how that works.
Caleb, I really admire the work that you do in restoring a historic house like that and the reverence you show in talking about the church and community surrounding you! I have often thought about buying some heritage house here and doing similar, but i would get lazy half way through :P I get to live through you a little this way :)
My west view looks out on Sk8 Liboriuos, so I share the feeling. I have watched hundreds and hundreds of buildings burn around here over the last almost 20 years, sometimes 2 or 3 times each. None have hit as hard as the three big fires in the last year- St. Liborious, Mullanphy Emigrant Home, and now St. Augustine. It's really discouraging, but at the same time drives me to keep going to save and rebuild what I can. I'm glad you were able to find some unbroken slate to reuse. That was such an amazing roof with great slate. I'm hoping more components can be salvaged, not just wrecked and dumped.
Could it be the foundation of the fireplace upstairs?
So sad that was a beautiful church
Please take care of your back, I've never hurt my back, or done anything stupid to it, but nonetheless by age 64, it became worn, with issues affecting L5/L6, and that now restricts what I can do and for how long. It can be extremely painful. Look after yoursekf!
Nice work, Kaleb. 👍. 😮It seems odd to lose two churches to fire in the same neighborhood in a short time frame. Have they determined what caused the fires?
What a shame. I think it's great that you picked up what you thought could be repurposed and/or preserved for history.
I love your videos and I love how much you care about the house and the vintage equipment from Mr Brown. You inspired me to buy a vintage woodworking table versus buying a new one.
I hope you are able to salvage a whole lot more from the burned Church! For pieces to live on at your house would be the best possible outcome for such a sad loss of the building!
A heads up about your video description that seems to be a tiny bit outdated: “projects completed in 2021” and “projects to be completed in 2022” 🙃
we know. thanks.
The wall came out great. Well done. That basement has come a long way
So glad you were able to save the slates!!
Wow... the stairway wall looks fantastic!
Your hard work and dedication really shows on every job you do and i thoroughly enjoy following you on your journey to bringing back to life such an important part of history.
Such a great sadness with the loss of such a beautiful church 😢 sadly the same vandalism has happened where i live in the uk, our city has lost so many fine buildings and industrial structures from the past and continues to do so or beautiful old buildings are being modified and turned into something truly hideous, it absolutely breaks my heart and makes me mad
Your videos always show the amount of love and dedication you have fixing up your home. Thank you for sharing them
Young man am i ever grateful for young men such as yourself , we have such beautiful reminiscences of these historical building , andI hope more and more young men and women will fight to keep these precioud memories of how it use to be.
Caleb you are so incredible, your preservation heart brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for caring so much. It's wonderful that you were able to grab a little piece of history.
Super rebuild of these beautiful walls - great job !
I love how you are salvaging materials. I do the same, but on a smaller scale.