Gaming test - Samsung Galaxy S23 FE with Exynos 2200 | Weird behavior...???
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- I didn't get to test the Exynos 2200 last year - so this is my first time experiencing what this chipset can offer. We test a total of 5 games - Genshin Impact being the prime test subject since this phone behaved weirdly with this game.
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0:00 Galaxy S23 FE is here!
0:43 Specs
0:58 Setup process
2:31 Genshin Impact
12:23 Temperature
13:52 Something weird that I discovered
16:35 PUBG Mobile
19:21 PUBG New State
22:39 COD Mobile
24:59 Mobile Legends
27:18 Is this a good phone for gaming?
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Welp, new software update the day after we uploaded this gaming test video.
Will do a follow-up in the full review.
im thinking to purchase this for my dad, how is the battery life?
@@fatcrruise6508 will be included in the full review. There was a software update after this video was uploaded and that improved things slightly
@@NasiLemakTechLooking forward to it. Thanks man. Looks like Samsung did make improvements to the Exynos 2200 for this release. Whether it makes the phone worth it is something I've yet to determine.
that's the video that i was looking for
Have you tried running Genshin from power saving mode? For some reason it would crash on my phone unless I turn on power saving mode with the 70% cpu option turned on
What phone are you using?
@@NasiLemakTech S22 w/ Exynos 2200.
@@Drfuzbear funny enough, I did suspect the chip is taking in more power and caused the system instability. That's why I plugged the charger in and play the game
Regarding the charge drop while playing… The phone charges at slower speed when the battery level is beyond 75%…. So ideally the discharge is faster than the charging…. But if you are doing the same when battery level is at around 30 or 40% then the charging speed will be faster than the discharge speed….
they really haven’t fixed the drivers? man
i wanna see how this runs honkai star rail, also you should try tab s9 fe genshin impact
Samsung should choose 8+gen1 for this phone. But they chose 2200 or 8gen1. Disappointed
wdym? phone runs cool, its definitely a driver issue
@@lol-ivan7500 if you really want to see efficiency and performance gap between exynos 2200 and 8+gen1. Watch the video of Golden Reviewer.
@@lol-ivan7500yep
Nah it just needs updates. It's cheaper version of original. Of course, Samsung used their own chip, cheaper production.
That's because Samsung is still trying to push it's own Exynos processors but it's still quite away from catching up to MTK and SD. It's painful to watch
I’ve seen reviews about the exynos 2200 in S23 FE yes it’s better than last year S22 series but the fact is that exynos is not really optimized for gaming unlike SD but it’s more like a Google Tensor which focus more on AI. btw Thank you!
Pixels all those AI features are also possible in a good performing chipset. It's not necessary to make a bad chipset which performs bad at games, heat management and other task and make it only AI capable !
@@CODwarriorBD but still SD is optimized in games like it already has high/ ultra graphics in every game and support hfps that’s what I mean about optimization but doesn’t mean it will not stutter because there are games that are very demanding.
@reziee5897 hmm i understand your point and you are right about snapdragons being better at everything than exynos and tensor 👍🏻
Well the 23fe is indeed better than the non ultra s22 but dem bezels of the 22 is nice
Are you still have this phone now?if yes does it still having a same crash problem when you start genshin impact?and what is the native graphic setting for genshin impact for this phone?
That problem is caused by the GPUWatch. Disable GPUWatch and there's no crashing issue.
I own one and tried some games, I notice the game stutters much because CPU usage just jumping around. GPU usage pretty much stable. I don't know if this can be fixed in future update when S24 exynos release or they are just lazy to optimize the driver. GPU hardware is fine I guess. I'm not heavy mobile gaming user, just sometimes use it to play eFootball for 1hr more or less (I've tried gaming with this phone not just with eFootball mind you). The phone for daily use is really fast, no problem/issue at all. But for gaming, don't even think to get this phone. Unless you are average smartphone user like me than it's a really good and solid phone.
Pretty much yes. Anything game related will struggle. Everything else is great
Which one is good for game s22 or s23 fe?
if you would download the thermal guardian you can set it to maximum power and later throttling
Heh, unavailable here
@@bosmen- the app is region locked. my country also does not support that cannot be found in the galaxy store
Could you run Genshin impact again at medium settings and set fps at 60? Thx
Gonna be in the full review
@@NasiLemakTechwhen? pls add honkai star rail too at Med 60fps
The size of the bezels looks fine but what bugs me is how it's not symmetrical at the bottom.
TBH, I find it to be even better. Reaching all the way to the bottom of the screen just to hit the spacebar is just more comfortable this way.
But yeah, it looks ugly.
I tried to hold the phone it is very sharp and difficult to hold if u dont use a case.
23:19 What happened in that minute on the buttons?
That glitchy effect? It's the game's effect.
@@NasiLemakTechYes
Thank you for talking about the heating issue. The one I got showed temp up to 56 C (using sensor data apps) with just normal use like web browsing, instagram, etc. Had to return it.
That's not an issue though. The chip can go to 80°C and still be fine.
The skin temperature is only 42°C at most and that's still very tame in comparison to the Snapdragon 888
@@NasiLemakTech Agreed. But I did not have any tools to check outside temperature. But yes, it was hot enough to be unpleasant. And this was while it's brand new and just with 5-10 min of normal use...that's why returned. Maybe I received a defective one.
U need 1 week of usage for the AI to configure the usage settings, exynos use alot of AI to maintain the usage, use the performance mode boost 1 time per day while playing for 3-4 hours, the battery and system will get used to it and do more heat dissipation and performance, my friend here in Brazil showed me he can play for 5 hours and still be 19% after that with no overheat(42° brazil max)
@@rahuldeharkar6804 same issue with me but they didnt accept a return and aim using it now :( but a little better now
@@sajit1906 few guys have mentioned that it might get better with more usage....hope that does the trick for you.
I overclocked in my Galaxy S20 fe 5g and it has become amazing
Are the haptics improved? comparable to the s23?
About the same
What's the best Samsung phone you can suggest? I am thinking of buying a Samsung phone
S24 Ultra is the best samsung phone
battery bypass isnt available on s21fe, doesn't work...😢
Yep, on S22 onwards.
Exynos 2200 is embarrassing for samsung because my 3 years old S20 FE with snapdragon 865 which was made in 2019 is able to play COD Mobile in above 50 fps using Very High Graphics + Max Frame Rate with Super resolution turned on 😂😂😂
My phone mediatek 8100 perform better than flagship Exynos 2200.
Its just very bad chip from samsung
@syarifairlangga4608 : People are just blind not to see that. I see many people disagree with this and saying it's justifiable for the price. Me personally would want them to put a good chip inside the phone and price that accordingly, no problem. Why make a good phone look bad using a bad chipset, i don't understand that logic ! Just put a plastic back instead of glass, i don't care as long as my phone performs like a flagship !
My S20 FE 5G runs 60fps without stuttering
Meu S23 plus 512gb snapdragon 8 gen 2 esmaga!!
@@gigantesupremo97555 S21FE Exynos runs smooth.
If u want good gaming, enable alternate game performance in game booster labs
Watch 1:23
@@NasiLemakTech i mean just alternate game performance, no need for game booster plus, and also from thermal guardian increase throttling temperature with 2°c
U sure it can be good gaming exp?
Same settings for all other Samsung phones, they don't have such issues
Sad there's no Ultra graphics and frame rate unlocked for Mobile legends 😢 considering its a flagship chip.
Ask the game developers why lol
They only enable that option for certain Snapdragon chips
Fps drop because of game booster plus when turn on this feature game optimizing turn on again
Any chance of doing an emulation test?
Probably not since no emulators are optimized for Exynos.
I can try out for you though - what would you like to test?
@NasiLemakTech it'll probably be able to run psx and lower, but i'm curious about how well it runs aethersx2 or dolphin.
Yuzu is asking too much from an exynos chip phone
@@Bunwinks FF12 ran very well on ancient device that has exynos on it unsafe mode. So very sure it works on newer ones better.
Btw emulators will work just use vulkan
Jika kita tengok angka dari graf, hanya CODM yg guna Gpu 100% & dev bnyak xsupport Mali dengan Xclipse 😅
Ad leak yg Gpu Exynos 2400 dngan Gen3 FG hnya beza 10%
Heard that next year s24 series are getting exynos chips again 😔
I'm glad that Exynos is not dead but I really do think they need to improve
@@nttinvisSnapdragon 2400 will have similar performance
Ultra model will only have SD while plus and regular model have its either EXYNOS AND SD depends on your region.
@@nttinviswrong. 2400= snapdragon 8 gen 3. Snapdragon 8g3 is bit better
@@gojo4808 yea my bad*
Its a new phone so some apps aren't optimized for it yet not a big deal
But exynos 2200 is old
^ Exactly. Not an excuse since the Exynos 2200 was used in S22 series in some regions
@NasiLemakTech we don't fully understand if the problem is the chipset or the phones firmware u might find that they haven't fully optimized how the phone should properly manage the cpu in gaming
It's been a year and 9 months or so since the Exynos 2200 is available in the market. There is no excuse.
@@NasiLemakTechbro I'm not talking about the processor I'm talking about the phone's firmware and how it might not be optimized yet to fully use the chipset, the chip is old but the phone's firmware and the phone itself is extremely new
Very 🔥
Oh you haven't tried Snapdragon 888 yet 🤣
13:54 For this weird phenomenon that you discovered, I noticed it happened on my Samsung S20 FE (Exynos) as well. It is simply due to the phone being hot that it is not charging, regardless of gaming or not (I don't think they want a repeat of their phone explosions). If you want your phone or at least Samsung to charge, make sure it's not hot like the temps you have there.
I think it'll display "overheat" if it explicitly stops charging.
@@NasiLemakTech You're probably right. I still wish we could access to the Snapdragon series of these phones. 😞
Thanks for the reply.
Forgot to subscribe. This will go for the emulation test of this "updated" Exynos 2200.
How is the battery
Still testing. Will talk about it in the full review
@@NasiLemakTech ..yess does it heat up alot while gaming
It does heat up about 2°C more than I'd like it to - but still within the safety limit.
@@NasiLemakTech yess thanks alot look forward to the full review
I agree on this. I have samsung s23 FE and my experience gaming with it on genshin is terrible. Sad. :( I thought the 1M score on Antutu on this device is enough to play genshin impact.
Nah, benchmarks are trash. That’s why I don’t use them and just straight up do a gaming test
I am planning on purchasing this phone. will this phone do fine while playing wild rift? its the only game i play hehe
That I'm unsure. If it's similar to mobile legends then yeah, not gonna be an issue.
Welcome to Exynos Experience. Where people from European and Asian suffer because we have no option to choose.
Will see if Exy 2400 can fix the chip problems and brand image.
It wont change anything because Exynos made in Samsung Foundry.
Exynos 2200 is good and Exynos experience as well
@@casuarius6576 oh hell no. been using Exy for years and swap to Snapdragon and its a night and day difference.
I would not hold my breath. Samsung must rather just let TSMC manufacture their processors.
@@mornerobins the same reason Intel procesoor lost to AMD in wattage is not because the architecture but TSMC just far ahead of their game
What about an emulation test bro! Try PS2, Citra, and Yuzu
🧨💥
should I buy this in 2024 ........please help anyone
If it's cheap, go ahead
Actually Exynos 2200 won't last you long. You'll need replacement a year later. Better wait till Exynos 2400 or best the Dream chip in 2025.
exynos 2400 is such a surprising chip im kinda looking forward to it, its one of those chips that does compete well with its competetor since exynos 1080 vs snapdragon 870
Exynos will be another Disappointment just like the predecessor Exynos and Samsung made Snapdragon888 and 8gen1
That was older one. These are newer ones.
@@messier8379 delusional
why do they use exynos on these because it sucks!! my s20 FE snapdragon variant could perform better than this on genshin impact in max settings !!
It can't perform any better than Exynos
This or Xiaomi 13T?
Depends if you want better UI/UX or just gaming performance.
I pick the S23 FE personally because MIUI is trash
I can live with bad UI/UX as long as it's not buggy. I am looking for better apps/games performance and a camera (esp. video camera where S23FE's 4k60fps looks smooth and stable). Not sure how's 13T there. I know it can't record 4k60fps without GCam but I am unsure about the quality.
@@NasiLemakTech
I heard exynos 22000 GPU on s23 fe was different than s22 series
Same xclipse GPU
Please do full review samsung s23 fe i really want to buy because the offer price is rm2349 really worth to buy but worry about exynos processor
I think for the price of RM2349 is okay for the phone
Why can’t we use 90fps ?
The game developers don't let us enable that option. No idea why, since this phone CAN play at 90fps
@@NasiLemakTech funny we get 90 fps on new state
despite not having the slightest interests in samsung phones, I sacrifice my mobile data to let this video run its full durations to support NL tech
Awwwww you're too kind! Thanks for that! ❤️
@@NasiLemakTech when i love NL tech more than i hate samsung phones
Turn ON gos for more stable longer session gaming bro
I think the drop framerate when genshin impact cause you turn off the gos for better performance.. but i think its just better for a minutes and the throttling very strict
See 1:23
That is the replacement of GOS.
@@NasiLemakTechalternate performance on = GOS off
And turning that option on will stress the device as much as possible.
Other phones can handle it. There is no reason for this S23 FE to thermal throttle this much.
I couldn't play Genshin, it lags and force closes so many times. I tried software updates, alternate game performance management, game booster plus. It still lags but doesn't force close anymore. Then, I turned off Frame Booster. It works like magic. I can play smoothly now.
Ha... so frame booster is the culprit?
@@NasiLemakTech I don't understand it either. I just followed a video on CZcams.
you have the exynos version, that mean your not from america? If your from america you have the snapdragon version, that mean it should play games better.
maybe after new update software, you can use "Alternate Gaming Performance"
I am already using it here
Faz o vídeo com ele jogando no modo br no cod mobile e testa o aquecimento durante a partida.
Testa a duração da bateria com os gráficos no máximo.
Você precisa mandar essa mensagem em inglês, ele é gringo
@@gigantesupremo97555 claro. Eu não sao brasileiro o portugues mas a genre não pode escrever em portugues se a maiora das pessoas responder em Ingles e o creator fala inglês 😅
exynos have high antutu score especially gpu. why mid end phone used 7+ gen 2 and d8100/8200 gave more better fps than this😂
Fps = cpu, not gpu
@@hc6008o contrário, fps = gpu.
A gpu é quem gerencia os gráficos do jogo, se a gpu for potente o fps será alto.
Lack of optimisation from game developers
Many games are not optimize for this gpu and Samsung + AMD seems not really doing much about the driver.
I just recieve mine today, I will try game after i finish all update. Still finished transfering my data and charge my phone. I will update tomorrow maybe, after phone stable. Usually when using new phone, the processor still in high usage due it's optimizing the phone.
In Europe no one gonna buy they should give up of exynos and do Snapdragon for Europe exynos is for budget phone 250 💶
If it's Snapdragon, I don't think it's ever going to be "budget".
Exynos 2200 is equivalent to Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, in Indonesia Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 heats up quickly. So I'm curious about the Exynos 2200 in Europe
@@iqballramdhnn bruh exynos in Europe exynos in Indonesia is the same exynos heat up lagging is worst than apple chip don't buy it
@@SkybornSlayer @clay.warzone why does it connect to Apple products? Right, this is discussing Snapdragon and Exynos, if you compare Apple products it is clear that they are superior because they are produced in the same place, while Samsung mixed with Android like Playstore is different from Samsung Store. I'm not very fluent in explaining, you can search on Google or various other places, but I thank you for the advice you gave
Exactly. In early 2022, i had choices between an S22 Exynos and others flagship, i said no, because i deserve the best: i bought a 13 Pro, first time iPhone after 12 years of Samsung.
S23 are all 🥇 with 8 Gen 2. Samsung will lose people living in Europe, like me, who like Samsung but who won't come back If Exynos is not on top
wait for game developer to optimize, especially mlbb
Nice video
When will Samsung learn that they should rather just give up on their Exynos processors. I will not buy any Samsung that has the exynos processor.
Nah, they shouldn't give in to the Snapdragon monopoly. It will only damage consumers more.
Improve Exynos instead of giving up.
This phone should cost 300$, the s23 is a much better device and it can be found for half of the launch price lol
This GPU doesn't even come close to the Adreno 730
It's beats the Adreno 740
It's beats the Adreno 740
@@casuarius6576But it also doesn't come close to the Adreno 730
It could beat the Adreno 730 when games are optimised for it.@@gigantesupremo97555
1:22 do not use the "Alternate Game performance management" This option is very buggy and ends up making the cell phone even slower. I've already had Galaxys, and this is certainly not the way to disable Samsung's "Gos", and even if you disable it, the system will place other limitations, some you can remove through "thermal guardian" app, others only with the rooted device
I guess you've not tried other Samsung phones before.
The only time if becomes unstable is on this phone only
How do you know? Does it really limit? Is this business of deactivating the GOS fake?
@gigantesupremo97555 disabling the alternate game performance management mode sets the thermal limit much lower and the performance is really limited.
Enabling it means it can go higher temperatures, hence better frame rate.
Yes, until you are right, it is possible to disable GOS with “App Manager” then it has brutal performance
@@NasiLemakTechWhat summary? Leave this option enabled or disabled for me to have greater performance under limitations?
Exynos is bad chipsets..always slow an heating.. performance is bad
See GPU Usage. Not recomended
Paid for that chipset, gonna use 100% of it 😎
@@NasiLemakTechSnapdragon 8 Gen 1 1% kkk
Gpu watch is broken
Very broken. Disabling it solves the crashing issue
S20 Fe better lol
I want to see gos off
GOS is a thing of the past.
@@NasiLemakTechIt's still limiting
Too Bad, Exynos Are Very Bad Optimized With High Temperatures, Worst Processors On Planet Earth
Nah, it's on par with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1
try it with fortnite!
lol.. gaming with motion blur, makes my head dizzy..
That price is a big nope.
🤝
Faz tsste no Fortnite mobile pfv
Samsung is really trying hard to make their own chipset and still ended up being garbage processor. They trying so hard just to keep up in Qualcomm Snapdragon, Iphone Bionic and Huawei Hisilicon
I hope Samsung will stop making this shiit processor in the future. They're just wasting customers money by buying those expensive phones yet very cheap chipset
Nah, they shouldn't give in to the Snapdragon monopoly. It will only damage consumers more.
Improve Exynos instead of giving up.
FE line-up is crappy.
You mean exynos the SD 8gen1 is better on the fe
@@hybridhalo1 I have S20fe snapdragon, it's pure garbage. Camera freezes and crashes a lot
@@cloviscareca its the s20
@@hybridhalo1 ?
Trash phone
those bezels, ewww. This is literally The samsung's fools edition
U think fe series is high level flagship ? Stop being ridiculous
Yeah poco f5 is much a better buy.
This is technically last year's flagship made affordable. I think it's okay
Thinner bezels being more "premium" is a conditioned response deliberately manufactured by phone makers. In other words, it's not real.
A little tangent here - bezels are important especially for tablets and computer monitors.
Ultra thin bezels are annoying and distracting.
▪︎don't use game plugins this make game lag ,just use game launcher and enable alternate game performance.
▪︎test the game in low settings and highest settings.
This is a High End Chipset from 2022 developed by Samsung for the Galaxy S22 series and now for S23 FE, they have the OBLIGATION to run any "old" game (that has been release before 2022) in the highests settings (this includes the highest resolution, that is only acessible with Game Plugins), if the phone can't run the games tested with a good performance in this scenario, then this device is a faliure in Gaming Aspect..
Let's wait the next 2 updates, before we, the consumers, do the fInal veredict about the Exynos 2200 and the S23 FE (Exynos)
But if you don't play the Plugin, it won't send resolution for games that are limited to 75%
Why the fuq would i buy a stupid phone for gaming when i can get the PS5 for the price of this shit huh???! Nobody buys phone for gaming 😂😂😂 if you play games on your phone it means you are poor and can't afford a real gaming pc or console 😅
No one asked for your opinion, though.
so?
There one thing that can beat console gaming.... that is?
mobile gaming on the go while your console just sit at home.
Fr
Or people want a phone