Gettysburg (1993): News of Kilrain
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- One of my favorite scene from Gettysburg (1993). Joshua Chamberlain (Jeff Daniels) recieves news from his brother Thomas that their friend Kilrain passed away overnight. I love this scene for the reaction of Jeff Daniels at the news, the surprise on his face, the one word answers, his eyes, the smile and finally the tear.
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The fact that the only fictional character has the saddest death is a testament of how great the acting and writing is in this film.
It is an incredibly moving scene from an excellent movie. For me though, General Lou Armistead's death is the saddest & most profound. Because of the depth of his feeling for his friend on the other side, General Hancock, & his final request... but maybe even more because of the fact that Richard Jordan was dying of cancer while making the scene. And no one but he was aware of how little time he had left. Knowing how much pain the man was really in while making such powerful historically accurate scenes hits me right in the heart.
How Jeff Daniels was never nominated for anOscar yet I'll never know. He's an incredible actor and in this scene the way his face just melts into sorrow and his voice and expression in his eyes is so believable it made me tear up. Its like going to a funeral and watching the family of the deceased cry, you just feel the need to fight back tears.
You ought to know by now that Hollywood doesn't judge on the quality of your acting but on the quality of your liberal politics. Why do you think an actor such as John Wayne was never recognized until the end.
You don't think Jeff Daniels is a Liberal? This had nothing to do with politics...and least not the way you're thinking. This was a Turner produced film that was originally conceived as a tv miniseries. Hollywood doesn't like stuff like this so they ignored it.
Gene Siskel called the movie "bloated Southern propaganda" because it gives a fairly even-handed approach to the causes of the war.
Jeff has acted GREAT in a 360 degree panorama of roles, Humor, to Psycho Serial Killer, to Spider Fighter, to Gettysburg
@@erwin669 To be fair, his comments seem a little more merited when you learn that the director, Ronald Maxwell, is a Lost Causer, which really throws the "we're fighting for our rights" scene into question
Rest In Peace, Kevin Conway, and Mahalo Nui Loa for your moving portrayals of Buster Killrain!
(May 29, 1942 - February 5, 2020)
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I was so glad they made Gods and Generals in a time where he was able to reprise his role. The movie would not have been the same without him.
R.I.P. to the late Kevin Conway😇 The entire Grttysburg ensemble cast all performed outstandingly in their individual respective roles. I recall back in later summer of '92 when filming began on location
#WellTakeItFromHere
oh god he died??!!!! :(
Rest In Peace Kevin Conway❤!
Great Movie, great acting, and all the sorrow, pain, joy, jubilation, and tragedy a person could stand in 4 days. Our Nation should be proud of all those men from both sides. They fought as only American Warriors can fight. Semper Fi my Brothers. See you in Heaven.
I just realized that this is the last time Chamberlain speaks in the movie - and there's still a full hour left!
And he can barely bring himself to speak...
Well Chamberlain was actually injured on Little Round Top so he would have been taken off the line (along with Gen Barksdale, his opponent on LRT). Hence no lines. Gen Buford (Sam Elliot) and Gen Hood are both out of it by now as well.
Chamberlain would go on to get injured 5 more times including one time where he was declared dead, earning him a brevet promotion to general. Grant literally thought Chamberlain had died but kept his promotion anyway.
@@SantomPh Gen Barksdale was not Chamberlain's opponent at the fight at Little Round Top. Barksdale was mortally wounded in fighting around the Peach Orchard, where his brigade routed elements of the III Corp. Chamberlain's opponent was Colonel William C. Oates, commanding the 15th Alabama regiment. He always believed to his deathbed that he could have taken LRT if one regiment supported him. He also argued about the extent of the Confederates retreat. He said his regiment was not routed from the battlefield by the 20th Maine's charge as he already ordered the retreat of his regiment. The charge of the 20th Maine gave it added weight for the regiment to leave the field quickly (those who didn't, many were captured.)
Correct on the promotion to brigadier general by Gen. Grant, who was under the impression from Corp Commander Maj. Gen Warren that Chamberlain was dying. Chamberlain would also receive a brevet promotion to major general after being wounded again towards the end of fighting in the war. General Chamberlain actually presided over the Confederate surrender at Appomattox Court House.
When they change the names of the Army bases that were named after confederates I hope one of them becomes Fort Chamberlain.
@@jmstowe why? Most the soldiers went to west point, were in the same units, and fought in the Mexican American war together and were good friends, this war tore families and friends apart for simply being from or living in a certain state. They are really only named after those men because they were from those states. Your state was considered your country back then after the Civil War is really the beginning of being considered the "United" States some historians consider.
Jeff Daniels played Chamberlain like a champ. His expression upon learning of Kilrain's death is entirely believable. He also has that Maine psyche to a "T", he says more with one "yup" than an entire speach.
The psyche, the perspective, the general outlook, whatever you want to call it... Perfect, chef's kiss, he nailed it. I might still occasionally cringe at the slightly inconsistent accent, but. I'm not one to talk, given I've only ever vaguely had it myself, despite my background (born, raised, stayed living there several decades). Tbh, at the same time it's also better than almost all other attempts I've heard. It's usually just someone trying to take a Boston accent and filter it through the Carolinas. In reality it's just a lot softer and smoother on that -R/Ah swap than it is in the rest of New England (except maybe Bar Harbor, AKA Bah Hahbah), it's still there but it isn't the emphasis of the word. And it's also not the only element of it. My grandfather used to say what sounded like "huss" instead of horse, for instance. Yet someone trying to imitate that would probably say it as "hoss". The Maine accent has almost no hard vowel stresses at all, where Boston/greater Mass is almost closer to Long Island and the Bronx by comparison.
The only way he could have been MORE Maine is if he had said "Cripes, Bub...turned 'er right sideways!" at some point...
This movie is bursting at the seams with great actors turning in outstanding performances and even still Daniels steals every scene he is in. He and C Thomas Howell are amazing together
Yes! Great film, great cast!
Quite simply one of the best-acted scenes of all time. Daniels’ ability to capture the weight of Chamberlain’s tremendous loss and simultaneous determination to remain stoic in the face of that loss is remarkable.
My favorite scene in the entire movie. Jeff Daniels looks as if he was thunderstruck by the news. So painful..
A wounded civil war soldier once pulled a gun on his friends because they said they were going to take him to a hospital.
That's how bad it was.
Yeh.. .that says a lot! Those slow moving muzzle loader balls made devastating wounds. So sad. I am a Canadian so that war is far removed from me historically. But I still watch these scenes all the time. I have them on my movie scene playlists.
Colonel darling.
I am Kilrain and I'm a fightin' man
And I come from County Clare
And the brits would hang me for a fenian
So I took me leave of there
And I crossed the ocean in the "Arrianne"
The vilest tub afloat
And the captain's brother was a railroad man and he met us at the boat
So I joined up with the 20th Maine
Like I said my friend I'm a fighting man
And we're marchin' south in the pouring rain
And we're all goin' down to dixieland
I am Kilrain of the 20th Maine
And we fight for Chamberlain
'Cause he stood right with us
When the johnnies came like a banshee on the wind
When the smoke cleared out of Gettysburg many a mother wept
For many a good boy died there, sure
And the air smelted just like death
I am Kilrain of the 20th Maine
And I'd march to hell and back again
For colonel Joshua Chamberlain
We're all goin' down to dixieland
I am Kilrain of the 20th Maine
And I damn all gentlemen
Whose only worth is their father's name
And the sweat of a workin' man
Well we come from the farms
And the city streets and a hundred foreign lands
And we spilled our blood in the battle's heat
Now we're all Americans
I love Chamberlain's sorrowful smile he gave his little brother after Thomas expressed his fondness for Kilrain. That's exactly how a big brother should act to his younger sibling.
I'm not crying, you're crying.
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Breaks my heart whenever he saids, "Well... Lawrance... He died..."
Despite how many times I've watched this movie, and I know that it's coming... I always feel a little heartbreak at that moment, and my eyes are always watery by "I sure was fond of that man..." :*(
He died as the "better man" he proved hinself to be....
Snowman20 me too
And the way he did his best to avoid the topic because he didn't want to break his brothers heart was very believable.
where in the movie is this? watched it never seen this
This is the best scene of grief in a war movie.
True American Classic. Non biased, point of views from both sides, characters with different motives. Its just perfect.
Chamberlain would be wounded again and again, including a terrible wound in the hip and groin that almost killed him during the war and again afterwards through repeated infection. He lived with excruciating pain the rest of his life until his death in 1914. He even suffered a wound that seemed to be a shot right through the chest and out his back, but the ball struck a picture frame in his coat pocket and the ball actually travelled round his rib, exiting his back. The last man to due of effects of wounds received during the US Civil war. A remarkably courageous man.
"Thank You" for those interesting facts! So much suffering and death. Those slow muzzle loader ball's created horrendous bone shattering wounds. I often imagine all of those wounded men lying in the dirt.. looking up at the sky.. and hearing all of the noise and carnage around them. And for many of them their last sight and sound. So sad. I am a Canadian, and I feel for their loss of life and opportunity.
2:04 - 2:05 Seen the movie a hundred times. Never noticed the tear drop. Probably the best Civil War movie ever made.
My favourite movie of any kind. Cheers from Australia
Amazing how a, "Yeah" can carry so much weight and emotion barely held in check.
Felt so bad for Chamberlain there ... I loved Buster! The way Thomas relates the news, and says, as an afterthought, "I sure was fond of that man" and Chamberlain's sincere grief. It was so great to see Buster "alive" in "Gods & Generals" and how he meets Chamberlain, and the beginning of their friendship. My other favorite friendship is Hancock and Armistead, the way Armistead just sags over when he hears Hancock fell .... "No! Not both of us." Great films!
Hancock lived, at least. Which is more than Armistead did.
@Curtis Rupp Kilrain didnt exist irl you know...
Knowing Richard Jordan was dying of brain cancer at the same time.. the whole scene hits different.
R.I.P. Kevin Conway
For Buster and Kevin
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I read about Chamberlain's younger brother Thomas. That after the war he could not settle into a career and failed in multiple business ventures. And died at a relatively young age in his mid 50s. A sure example of PTSD, how he acted after seeing the field hospital, he, along with a lot of others must of suffered terribly afterwards.
I was thinking ptsd..after I read he went thru multiple jobs after the war and got heavy into alcohol..nice guy..and there was no way to manage and treat it then
Same thing in a sense happened to Major Rufus Dawes of The 6th Wisconsin Regiment's Iron Brigade when he got out of The Union Army in 1864. He suffered for years afterward from effects of PTSD
Oh Kilrain, what a Sergeant.
Actually, he was demoted to private after drunken brawl with a superior.
For the life of me…to this day. Cannot understand why Jeff Daniels did not get an Oscar for his performance in Gettysburg. I had already lost confidence in those make the selections….the omission of Jeff Daniels confirmed the opinion.
A most excellent choice in actors portraying! CHAMBERLAIN, I' VE ALWAYS HELD IN HIGH ESTEEM, YOU CANT HELP BUT ADMIRE THE SOB, HIS VISION WAS CLEAR, AN ONLY AN IRISHMAN COULD DEBUNK THAT DEVINE SPARK THANG, WITH ACCEPTABLE REPLACEMENT, COMMENDABLE, YES, VERY COMMENDABLE!
With the mustache covering his mouth for most of the performance, Daniels' Chamberlain still manages to emote in a variety of ways: there were moments of humor, sadness, nervousness, and resolution. Essentially, throughout the film he was performing only with his EYES. It gives his character a stoical and understated quality and speaks volumes about his acting abilities.
Very well put! Such a great actor, and "Fantastic" performance!
Daniels was worthy of an oscar and didnt even get a nomination. Richard Jordan as well
The latter actor tragically passed on during the editing phase of Gettysburg in August, 1993😟 R.I.P. Richard Jordan😇 The finished film came out just 2 months later
I have seen Daniels do a portrayal of a civil war colonel make you feel like you were there. I have seen Daniels play a dumb or dumber idiot. I have seen Daniels play a serial killer! It is an absolute travesty this man has not at least been NOMINATED for an oscar!
you two are little round top heroes
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This movie is so much better produced and directed than Gods and Generals
Yea I actually went to the movie theater to see Gods and Generals and was very disappointed after expecting good things following Gettysburg.
@@goldleader6074 The irony was Gods & Generals had a bigger budget than Gettysburg, and the latter movie was better quality produced and morre well acted......at least it seemingly was to me
oh I'm sorry for the loss of your friend you two
As King Theoden would say; "Hail the Victorious Dead..."
R.I.P. Sgt. Buster Kilrain (:():::::::::::::::::
RIP Kevin Conway =/
"I sure was fond of that man".
If this scene was shot today, Chamberlain would be bursting intl tears, sobbing really loud, and kicking random objects, ans just screaming really loud.
can you post the whole movie? we watched it in class and it was great!
I like it
Sgt Kilrain is as real as the easter bunny / tooth fairy. Although it is a wonderful portrayal of a friend Chamberlain had, in both Gods and Generals and Gettysburg.
Having fought at Antietam, Fredericksburg and the defense at Chancellorsville. Gettysburg was the crescendo to this series.
Go jump in the lake lady.
Check your facts.
oh goodness
Both of the Chamberlain brothers suffered badly from PTSD. Tom died young in a veterans home completely insane. After the war Joshua was separated from his wife the rest of their lives. She claimed he was very abusive. Probable true.
I don't know what it is about this movie, but although it has its' flaws, it's virtually perfect if that makes sense. The timing, pacing, acting, and the ability to pull you into the story are what's kept this film alive. G & G had ZERO of that. Boring, dull, and lifeless comparatively.
The civil war was like no other war in that you could love both sides. Because both sides were us. The union won, as they should have won and that was history.
When it's brother against brother noone really "wins"
With terrible and aggrievous losses on both sides, Mr. Hendrickson, it's a very bitter pill to swallow as far as using the term victory
Lawrence i just got back from the hospital
Somehow from Gods and Generals to Gettysburg Kilrain lost his stripes and is just a private at Gettysburg whereas before hand he was a Sergeant
Nah, he's a sergeant in Gettysburg too!
He was demoted shortly before Gettysburg for (I think) fighting another soldier and Chamberlain was pretty much like "well you know I can't do anything about it" (essentially)
I am a YANKEE, I NEVER understand how the south ever felt they were right when, men like this honorable and just were fighting a noble cause.
paul hoffman burning businesses and homes, murdering and raping civilians, and stealing are not noble.......
Raleigh Native I am sorry sir but your side was wrong no matter how you justify state rights , breaking away from the North was wrong, that is what I meant , how your side could even argue this point I do not get that is why when I see men like this they are noble and just , preserving the Unioun.
paul hoffman where did you see that in the Constitution? It’s nice though that you are nonplussed by those crimes of your people........ Don’t complain or wonder when people fight back in defense.
Raleigh Native so to end this, putting people in chains to you is okay?, very funny way of thinking are you a southern liberal, so as long as we get to do what we want that's okay, but how dare you stop us?....so all men are not created equal, and the constitution did NOT suggest about dissolving the country. I did state that if you were being unjustly treated yes you could uprise not dissolve the entire nation.
Many a good Irishman died on both sides. 69th NY. 24th Georgia.
A time when men showed no weakness
surveyors known as map makers
isnt int he gettysburg movie... never saw this til now
Is that ponyboy?
Yep! That is another great performance from C Thomas Howell. Did you know that he used to be a rodeo rider in real life? Another great film of his is "The Hitcher" with "Rutger Hauer" the original version.
are you two alright
Hey, why was chamberlain limping?
Did he injure himself during the Bayonet Charge on Little round top?
He was shot in the leg during the battle of little round top. However his sword holster blocked the bullet from entering his leg. He is still in pain from the impact though.
Col. Chamberlain's moustache is fun to watch.
Cheat2Win6 bahahahahahahha they had some crazy mustaches back then lol
Unfortunately the Kilrain character wasn't real. You look at a listing of the men who fought at Gettysburg from the 20th Maine you won't see his name mentioned. He's a totally fictitious character.
antares4s yup he was a mix of 3 soldiers I think if I remember correctly I may be wrong idk
You may be right about that. You would have to ask the author of the book to be sure as to how the character was developed.
And thats heart breaking.
Its like......almost like an imaginary friend.....
Like he _was_ there
Such a good character. Fit in with all these once real men, you would think he was real too....
....and he just somehow disappeared.....off the 20thM roster, off the books, everything.....
That feels horrible to me, somehow....
No there wasn’t a “Kilrain” but there was an old Irish sgt that chamberlain was close with
I'm still in touch with few of the cast members, from GETTYSBURG. Those of General Hancock and General Hood. Buster was a combination of three individuals one of them an Irishman. I will add, that the hard work by reenactors made these characters period correct. Some loaned rare artifacts as props. Horses in the movies GETTYSBURG & GODS AND GENERALS are veteran reenactors horses.
you did?
what? oh no
Love the line where they're ordered to relocate: Right smack dab in the middle. Quietest place on the whole battle field.
And then Pickett's Charge happened...
map makers 😊
Hancock general.
#LETSGOBRANDON
I’m a little disappointed about the lack of diversity in the casting of this “film”.
@ryan d you’re not realizing it’s a civil war epic period film, not a 2023 movie. Get it together .
Lawrence i just got back from the hospital
you did?