Michael Jai White: 2Pac Wasn't a Gangster, Staying in Character Got Him Killed (Part 16)
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In this clip, Michael Jai White spoke about there being a small minority of rappers who are actually gangsters as opposed to the vast majority who are performing what they take to be a gangster. Michael also discussed being around very powerful people and how interconnected his friends and associates are. He recounted training Snoop's former bodyguard that killed a man in the famous murder trial in the '90s. According to Michael, he knew the judge presiding over the case and revealed that a substantial about of evidence "vanished" in the process.
Killing someone in self defense isn’t “gangster” it’s what most men would in do in those types of situations
You’d be surprised
First find a Almanac of Zodiac signs look up 2 Pac date of birth and time he was born.... he had 7-8 different personalities a mind of a Genius look at the people born on that day... in my area if you hang with Gangster from a young age you take your friends lifestyle regardless...it was alot of history before Suge and Biggie he been running around New York
La Familia youngbliffordclothing my comment had nothing to do with Tupac
You miss the point, Vlad is saying these are rappers who got check but prove they was go die for there's, because it's also alot of rappers that would've cried and beg for there life
kalem rhodriguez I understand his point. It was just a stupid ass point. He didn’t get checked he had his life threatened. There is a difference. Most men will take someone’s life to protect their family. That doesn’t make him a gangster
I think the problem is that people confuse 'gangsta' with not being soft.
Yup and the fact that people glorify that shit shows how toxic society is.
Yeah they do. It’s two totally different things.
You don't got to be a gangsta to NOT be a punk.
Thats cuz soft ppl tip toe thru life and accuse anybody wit some backbone of trying to be "gangsta"
@@ivyrich2777 Bro, If I could give this reply 100 thumbs up.
People look up to 2pac and other rappers as wise and intelligent and with all due respect these guys were grown men who lived with a teenage mentality, hanging out with bad people, and putting value on stupid things.
Well he died when he was 25. The frontal cortex which is responsible for conscious decision making, doesn’t completely stop developing until the age of 25. So when you say adult/teenager mindset you have to take that into consideration.
@@laffytiffy4730 the brain is not only fully developed at 25, but you could say that in most cases that would be it’s prime in cognitive ability.
@@iagopedroni2451 Facts at 25 we definitely know better.
@@laffytiffy4730 stop it at 25 I have a wife and a daughter and left the streets by High school no excuse by 25
@@laffytiffy4730 ...that's just excusing childish behavior. Historically at 25 men used to be in their midlife.
Either there is something collectively wrong with the mind of young people today, or you are misunderstanding the data.
My man was so not impressed wit that DaBaby story😂😂😂
Lmao right. Bc it didn't line up with what he was tryna say lol
He probably doesn't even know who or what Da Baby is lmao
Agreed 💯💪👊
@mal m lmao exactly my point
@ right🤣 He was probably thinkin Baby from Cash money
Just because you killed somebody in self defense doesn't make a person a gangster.
@Galva Tron someone tied to/apart of an organization that has politcal influence/power...they call em "the suits"
Vlad is a biznitch who wants to know hood. I want to like him but he is so soft.
@Galva Tron a person who kills without home invasions because they are in that life. Sounds ignorant but thats how it goes.
Glad says it does.. so it does
They were cops tho what rapper you know doing that
Shooting somebody in “self defense” doesn’t make you a “G” Vlad. Shooting 2 off duty officers in defense of the defenseless... THATS GANGSTER 💯
Exactly. Who wouldnt defend their family or home. But to see injustice and blast on some pigs. Thats real shit
DOPEGAME J ✊🏾🙌🏾💯🙌🏾💯🙌🏾✊🏾💯
Big ass facts
That's a fuckin fact
But there was no way for Tupac to know they was off duty cops, so take that "off duty cops" part off, no chance in hell would pac deliberately shoot 2 off duty cops knowing they was cops.
I WOULD BET MY LAST DOLLAR
THAT TUPAC WOULDNT STAND AND WATCH
GEORGE FLOYD GET CHOKE'D OUT!!!
GANGSTER THAT!!!
Better question would u stand&watch? Stop riding another man's coat tail try and figure out what would u do
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@@tonegee1083 i never stand and watch..
I'm on VAN NESS AND SLAUSON.
I put in my own work around here..
@@patrickjoseph7773 right now your in vladtv comments
@@tonegee1083...I know a lot of G's
Never heard of YOU!!!
It's clear Glad and Spawn never watched Resurrection
"Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. I’m not the thief who grabs your purse. I’m not the guy who jacks your car. I’m not down with people who steal and hurt others. I’m just a brother who fights back. I’m not some violent closet psycho. I’ve got a job. I’m an artist." - Tupac
Tupac was a very intelligent individual and I have no doubt that he believed those words. Unfortunately, his actions spoke louder.
Only weirdos and Stans watched that bullshit lmaooo
These clowns just say the things they say for views.
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Yeah but perceptions tho
2pac wasn’t a coward at the end of the day. Yes he may have went overboard at times but no he wasn’t a gangster. He was a man and he stood for what he felt was right, he was a loyal dude.
Lord Frieza Christ 🤣🤣😂😂😅😅Seriously why do you hate 2pac so much? You always talking shit about 2pac.
Lord Frieza Christ bro take your weird ass on somewhere with the bullshit. You probably a square in real life.
Suck It easy Not probably. He is a square in life.
Lord Frieza Christ 😂🤣 Your obsession with Tupac is scary. You’re not fooling anyone. You admire Tupac.
Vlad is so scared of da baby.....
Lol
Pacs Thug Gimmick is what got him killed. It was a gimmick. You gotta play a part to sell records. He used to do ballet & had a whole different vibe of him until he signed to be a rapper. Then all of a sudden a Thug came out. Pac riders will never admit it. That he was a gimmick. This video proves it. They said it themselves. He wasn't what he was portraying.
Holy shit I gotta look more into that
I wonder if money bred that mentality cuz it sho as shit lead to the whole EvW culture war
A people divided are easier to control and profit off of
I am just starting to figure this out. At the end of the day, he was an actor.
I think the part everyone misses is he never claimed to be gangsta
Cap? I kinda figured it was implied through his music- I mean I don't know the dood and I certainly ain't him that's just what I figured
Yeah after seeing the video of him as a 17 year old you really realize he wasn't any gangster growing up or a tough guy. He wasn't a straight macho guy in high school. He became that character after, and especially after he got the part for juice, he became that character, became as gangster as he possibly could portray. It's like he was playing as a character of an amazing performance for a movie but he kept going with it.
1st.....2pac was more of a soldier/warrior than a gangsta.
👏💯
Boy fan/Groupie
Lord Frieza Christ same way Orlando Brown was on the Disney channel and now he’s acting like a crack head
He was more of an entertainer than anything else.
Lord Frieza Christ well understand pac life before 17 he was brought up to fight against the police and fight for his people by well known black panthers that school he went to was to learn something
Tupac had more heart than most the people always speaking on him. HE saw a black man getting hassled by 2 white dudes and defended him.. How many of these people today will do tht?? I'll wait.. And as far as being a gangsta, Pac said in multiple interviews he WAS NOT A GANGSTA, But a nigga tht fight back!! Peace to tha G.O.A.T
Nothin but facts
💯💯💯💯BIG FACTS
👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾 exactly.
He was on war with the oppressor not the brother.
In his ideal sense Malcolm X was a T.h.u.g.
The meaning was what america made me.
A brother with knowledge thats willing 2 die 2 fight back is more "G" then anything.
I ain't no gangster but don't push me
@@pappig7764 He died as a gang member jumping another black man, ya'll fanboys not bright at all.
I always thought 2pac was not a gangsta by heart. He just lived that gangsta lifestyle to protect the image and its sad that the lifestyle killed him. Rip 2pac
Tupac had more enemies than any real gangsters in America, a lot of people wanted him dead, and he even got shot up at quad studios, pulled out a gun to shoot back, Tupac was a ride or die soldier, he wasn’t a gangster but he was no less of a leader
He was a thug
Fuck tubitch . If he was a real friend he wouldnt have condemned snoop for wanting out of the street life
That's called... ACTING.
He was pushing the agenda
It kills me that all these guys call Tupac fake since he died but none of them said it while he was alive. If you didn't say it then don't say it now.
Real killers dont make records.
Wasn't no internet gangsters when Pac was alive
He never said he was “fake.” There’s a difference between being fake and what he’s describing PAC as.
It was still rats etc out here they just didn’t have social media like us some would’ve fell for the trap as well
Good point
Glad: well da baby is a gangster he killed someone....and.. And Gucci mane killed someone too
Michael: - _ -
Not sure why Glad's voice sounds so happy like he heardsome juicy gossip...dude, a shooting happened and you wanna flex that you know the people who did it? Glad a stupid idiot
right wtf
Vlad: murdering artists are 'gangsta'. MJW: murder is never 'gangster' or powerful, what's wrong with you Vlod?
They made legal kills & can talk about it publicly. That’s the exact opposite of gangster
Da Baby killed an innocent kid that’s pathetic
2 pac wasn't a gangster. He was a black panther that tried to relate to a particular demographic to save them. He was definitely going to change the minds of the people. ✊🏾
But some of the people that he was around wasn’t good for him
@301AG Your Absolutely right. 💪🏾💯
Saint Thomas you’re VERY misinformed. Tupac has maybe 400 songs. 380 are either about “-- bi--“ shooting black folks, drinking or smoking, carrying an ILLEGAL gun, having sex with other people’s women. 5 are uplifting the black community and 15 are neither negative nor positive. Try and prove me wrong so I can ether you. If ANYTHING his influence did more harm than good. I can almost guarantee more black people listened to tupac and joined the bloods or got hype for a drive-by, than people that listened to pac like “brendas got a baby has me so amped not to throw this baby in the trash”
Side note: I really do wonder how many people got amped to “ryde” listening to a tupac song
@Lord Frieza Christ Pac still got people hating on him even after his death that's how u know he legendary
Wasn't he same dude on camera beating down another blk man b4 he died? But we supposed to be brothers All that n*gga did was run his mouth
Pac was much more than a gangster..smh..he never even claimed to be one
Amen
He was a pretty good thespian
He was a fake thug actor and convicted rapist crybaby attention seeking hypocrite dumbass.
Chairman Meow not to mention a crybaby who cried victimhood
@@quincysimpson2958 Damn right but he didn't care about that girl he sexually violated, ironic that the same thing happened to him in jail tho.
Love how pacs name still in everybodies mouth to this day. Shows how legendary his status is
Pac was an idiot.
Phony
I wish there were actual numbers to how many people died from him posing
@@mariahe.p3661 foo got shot and flipped off the camera taping him while being wheeled into the ambulance with 5 shots in him. Then went on to keep talking mad shit and even expected to die and still didn't give 1 fuck. Blasted cops after that. Then went on to get blasted again and the cop that tended to him even said he still didn't say shit and told him to fuck off while he was in the process of dying. LEGEND u don't gotta gangbang to have the heart of a G bruh
Fernando Gonzales you do realize he shot himself right
I really hate this kind of talk when it comes to Tupac! There's such serious misunderstanding of him. Tupac wasn't gangster but he shot 2 off duty cops for beating up a black dude! That wasn't gangster but killing black people is??? Tupac was raised and breed by the real gangsters! Those black men and women that are dead or been in jail for 4 or 5 decades to free black people!!! Yeah those gangsters! Panthers and others that cared enough to put their own lives on the line for others are the real gangsters. Open our minds people! I bet Vlad won't do a interview on that!
You hit it right on 💯
@@moneygirlsandclothes No he didn't, Black Panthers weren't gangsters, they were revolutionaries plain and simple, so no Pac wasn't raised by "real" gangsters but he was raised by ppl who had fought to change their realities and seemingly failed but Pac was the success that they never saw coming, as he had the ability to reach all the black folk with his music and do more with his voice than the Black Panters could do with his actions. But in the end, he didn't succeed in really changing the overall state of black communities and the mentality, in some ways he damaged it more. He's a hero and a villain, we need to understand that.
Most of those Panthers were government informants. Afeni beat a fed case before Pac was born, 155 charges randomly got dropped. Something ain’t right 😂
@@DominantBlackMaleLeader Just go ahead and sit this one out. You obviously don't have enough knowledge? Don't embarrass yourself.
@@TavaraTheLaughingLion First of all What is a gangster and why should it be a standard for Masculinity? Yeah you are right they were Revolutionaries. Thats what we should be holding as a standard? Not some Coin Tel Pro term!
Vlad should just change this to “2Pac Chronicles”
Fr he has like a 20 disc box set ready to sale on craigslist
Facts
Bruh💀
Vlad stay talking about Pac
2pac will easily be one of the most influential characters in musical HISTORY. They will be talking about that man centuries from now.
@Lord Frieza Christ a good shooter too. Shot two white cops in Atlanta
Black history as well
2Pac wasn’t a Gangsta. And anybody that disagrees are lost.
he actually against that lifestyle.he stayed in character so kids in the hood would listen to his message
Say what you want but pac was for us and shot at cops what rapper you know will do that nowadays
He never called himself a gangster, so what's your point
Y’all can argue me down til u blue and red in the face. That nigga died tryna be A Blood. Point Blank Period. Soooo he thought he was a gangsta. 🤷🏽♂️
Aniq bruh WTF are you talkin about?? What 2Pac was YOU listening to? Cause I coulda sworn after he got outta jail it was no More Thug Life. It was The OutLawz. He yelling MOB now. Which means Member Of the Bloods/ Money Over Bitches WHICH, what do you know happens to be the set SUGE KNIGHT was in. It was no more peace songs or conscious music. it was rider music And Gangsta shit WESTSIDE/WESTCOAST diss tracks rap beefs with rappers, real beefs with REAL GANGSTAZ. We Know originally he WAS SOMEWHAT against but come on. Do your research. Cause reeeeal dumb man fr.
Tupac didn't die for a gang and he never threw up gang signs at Orlando. Tupac died because he is LOYAL. Tupac would have popped off on anyone who he felt disrespected people he loved. Of course Pac did not know Orlando, but in his mind, Orlando was the enemy because of the chain incident in the mall. Tupac was not fake and he did not stay in character. He was a human being who had different sides to him(Funny, Angry, etc...) Fake tends to be people who always show you one side(6ix9ine always gangster). Tupac is probably the realest person ever to come into the rap game. He recorded tons of music, not one talking about his money or his cars, all real lyrics that made you feel something. Everyone taking these backwards shot at the man.
At least somebody see straight 💯
You know why black culture is shit nowadays? Because gangsta rap and hiphop is idolised. Black culture had Jazz, soul, and RnB. Those were real music.
@@hilmanic28 everybody idolizes something that they can relate to and sadly in what's going on today especially in a neighborhood that's dominated by a lot of violence, people will gravitate towards something they can relate to which is rap as opposed to listening to jazz
No , he was fake
He would of never jumped on baby lane on his own
His stupid Action got him killed and fucked deathrow up
@@capo-amg6755 what stupid action? A friend of his told him that's the guy that jumped me and he was just being loyal to his friend
I never considered pac music gangsta music. His music was mental stimulation. He never claimed a gang. They just embraced him that's why he was supported by all gangs.
gangs didnt support pac lol. mob piru didnt embrace him..he kept them around him to validate his gangster image. pac and death row promoted gang culture to the point it got out of la and is all over the u.s now. his music was nothing but black on black violence and self destructive behavioie
@@freddycalipari4242 gang culture was across the Us long before death row.
Lol.. WHAT? They embraced him? Bruh pac bought his way into MOB Piru. Ask Mob James. KEEFE D. Snoop, etc. You probably think that MOB shit only stand for money over bitches huh?
Pac was a poser, fraud, fake. His music ain't "Mental stimulation" its hypocritical, toxic bullshit spit by a person who didn't live what he wrote. Hes the original tekashe69 without snitching .Yall still glorify a RAPIST, grow up.
Davis C 💯
@@freddycalipari4242 naw that shit ain't 100 olhead.
Funny thing is Pac NEVER claimed to be a gangsta he claimed being a thug.....Big difference
That's what I'm saying he.never claimed what people talking about
Blood MOB piru hmmmmmmm🤔
@Pstreet General gangster party,I belive
@Pstreet General Maybe the dumbest question on CZcams😂
@@masco2483 see above comment to find the sarcasm
At the end of the day Tupac inspired generations of a culture. Whats more gangsta than that?
Facts
Stop reading the Urban Dictionary
What generation and culture is this, a bunch of white boys.......stop being delusional
Stfu
@Unbias Cowboy Fan I hear you but I define gangsta a different way I guess. Gangsta isn't always negative bruh.
Killing in self-defense isn’t what folks mean when speaking about being “gangsta”....
All that that Tray Deee, Ricky Ross & etc try to “teach” Vlad, Vlad has not “learned” anything by choice....
Vlad has more “trust” in Wikipedia than those who has, have & still been “through it” in person in reality....
fr
I swear that's what I was thinking. Make this a top comment. Glad so stupid.
Exactly.
Being gangsta lead up to them having to defend them selfs lmao tf. Y’all stupid af so a “gangsta” is supposed to let someone kill them?? Lol thats not gangsta
But.....there are folks too pussy to kill even if it means saving their own life
I agree 2pac wasnt a gangster.
But staying in character I disagree pac from the slums of Baltimore and Oakland.
Plus he bust shots at guys n cops
He was not a gangster he was a revolutionary hero who see wrong for wrong and right for right
This was the best comment that describe Pac
He was also a ballet dancer and bisexual and a poet and an actor. Fruits can shoot too
Revolutionary? Fuck out of here. He was a great rapper ok actor rapist and fake gangster and got killed for it
@ he had more roles than Will Smith. Pac was an actor that fooled the dumb masses
He ain't know they was cops
The Representation of a Gangster been cancel since 69 was running around saying test mine. A Gangsta to me is a family man, bread winner,leader, rider & thinker there’s a difference btw gangsta , thuggery & being just a criminal
pretty much
i think you confused gangsters for real niggas
Wow, what world do you live in where a gangsta is something positive and productive?!
The Biladi exactly. There’s a difference between real niggas (what pac was), gangsters (gang members), street niggas (drug dealers, robbers, etc) and thugs (people who are the muscle for someone else).
Gangster was & are made men you wanna talk positivity but be just as quicc to vote 🗳 for them assassins in suits that drop nukes I know ppl that might commit crime but want no physicality or a suppose it killer with ruger but he don’t stand his ground unless tha numbers on his side it’s all perception at the end of the day the same person offering you piece of meat off the grill can be same mf to leave u in a bush
Them girls yelling his name got him killed
What girls?
@@selfishstockton6123 The two females that were riding in a car among the other vehicles that were involved in the shooting.
Selfish Stockton The girls who were riding right next to Tupac's BMW and who recognised him, they gave away his location by shouting and screaming. If these girls hadn't done that Orlando Anderson (Pac's killer) wouldn't have seen him and would've probably just pass by him.
No pac putting hands on Orlando got him killed.
@Jason if you look at it like that then you gotta say that fight that Trayvon Lane had with Orlando a week before got him killed cause that's what led to it all, but Keefe said we wouldn't of spotted Pac if those girls didnt yell his name.. any way you look at it you can come up with like 6 reasons on why Pac got killed
In the world of hollywood even their everyday lives can be an act that the mindless take as true fact
Thats a fact. Most peoplE in L.A. be in character
@@humblebragger500 And new York has crips now go figure
Y'all cold for kicking my comment Vlad...
Still love tho...You know I'm right
Nigas live off a script lol
So a kid raised by black Panthers, that grew up in East Harlem in the late 80s acts how? He was making gangster raps before his first movie. Y’all just don’t like Pac
Said by the guy who thinks he can beat everybody but won’t get in the ring or octagon when fighters call him out
facts 😭💀
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WAKANDA NAKER even before then bro he never got in that ring or octagon..he was young at one point and never did it although he was around everybody who was doing it...I’m not saying he’s not a good fighter but damn for a person who talks as much shit about other people as he do he should’ve at least had some good examples on how he get down and not them damn instruction fight videos real fights
WAKANDA NAKER hell a white man just called him a bitch ass NIGGA and told him to get in the ring and he turned it down but got the nerve to say a man who shot 2 police officers ain’t a real gangsta....He wouldn’t even fight a white man who called him a nigga and called him out to the ring but got the nerve to talk about what’s Gangsta and what’s not I bet he wouldn’t fight a cop yet alone shoot one...niggas definition of real and Gangstas is not what real and a gangsta is
I met MJW about ten years ago at a comic book convention. He was a very down to earth guy. No ego at all. A very solid dude. I’m very happy for his success.
My guy was 25 living and learning daily a well rounded educated man give him a break always will be a legend in our culture 🙌🏾
“They talk a lot of shit but that’s after I’m gone because they fear me in a physical form, let it be known I’m troublesome”-2Pac
JUST REMEMBER THIS WHEN A GANGSTER DIES, NOBODY THAT’S RIGHTEOUS GOES TO THEIR FUNERAL, OR REMEMBERS THEM
20-30 YEARS LATER PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT TUPAC, THEY PLAY HIS MUSIC, REWATCH HIS MOVIES, USE HIS QUOTES, STUDY HIS LYRICS, HES FOREVER IMMORTALIZED ON EARTH, HE HAS SAVED SO MANY KIDS FROM VIOLENCE AND GANGS AND PUSHED THEM INTO TOP UNIVERSITIES IN THE WORLD, THIS BROTHER DID THE WORK OF GOD NOT SATAN, HE IS MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN A GANGSTER, HE WAS A LEADER LIKE MALCOLM X
Facts
the whole "thug life" movement did more harm than good lets just keep it g
it filled cemeteries and prisons g
Thuglife... The hate u give little infants fucks everybody
@@taydafranklin7800 that acronym was null and void when pac was doin the bullshit...i understand what he originally set out to do...but he got lost in the sauce and became a statistic
Pac wasnt perfect,had been alot I'm sure we would've seen a mature him by mow
Thug Life never really turned into a movement. And The streets was wild before then. Those are just words.
Pac was a actor but also a revolutionary way bigger than just a gangster
Real shit
I think revolutionary is a bit of a stretch. Hugely influential but a revolutionary flips the system on it's head or at least greatly disrupts it. People like Fred Hampton for example were revolutionaries but not Tupac.
Austin Curlson yeah he was more bark than bite, but few accomplishments
@@InfamousAustinT0 you're confused and lack knowledge! His mother was with Fred Hampton? His God father was Geronimo Pratt!? His step Father is Mutulu Shakur! A little research won't hurt befor you talk. He was/is ther offspring! Smh
@@peferredservice2207 If I was Malcolm X, MLK, or even Marcus Garvey's son that doesn't make me a revolutionary..... even if they taught me everything they know. Tupac did not do anything that made him a revolutionary no matter who he is connected to....
Most real gangsters I know aren't that articulate when it comes to rhyming words. It's why they've been more prone to react physically to situations that could've been resolved through lesser violent means.
Leroy Green how much time did Pac get for shooting at 2 cops?
Leroy Green oh ok.
When you get shot it triggers something in you. Either you're gonna run from everything that you think is out to get you or eliminate it immediately. He thought he was dying the first time he got shot & then got locked up all at the same time. I dont think any of that was an act. The acting was over at that point.
I don't respect this interview
2pac was Gemini wat else is there that need 2 be said
@Ben O'Neill No totally incorrect.
Ben O'Neill how was he acting but was in the hospital? You sound dumb ass fuck
Willi Wonka neither do I
"I'm not a thug cause I wanna rob people or rape people and things. Im a thug because I came from the gutter and im still here. " -Tupac Shakur
He went to Juilliard
@@victorrivera2291 And was chased by the FBI his entire life, grew up in poverty, grew up with no father & watched his mom slip into crack.. get the fuck outta here.
@@serious_killer1653 All rappers are junkies? What a way to generalize an entire genre of music .. Kendrick Lamar, Tyler The Creator, & Vince Staples are straight edge you fucking moron, don’t ever speak on hip hop ever again
@@ggallintedtalk Lil Wayne, Lil Xan, Trippie Red, Eminem (used to be and was known for it), Lil Baby, Mozzy, Gucci Mane, Smokepurpp, Lil Pump, Uzi, Snoop Dogg, G Herbo, Riff Raff, Chief Keef, Famous Dex, DMX (Rip),Coolio, Lil Boosie, Lil Peep(Rip), T.I etc etc etc... Point is, its not that crazy of a generalization as you would like to believe in your bubble of fantasy and dreams, seeing as most of them clearly are, and they literally rap about it LOL. Cheers, and don't speak on hip hop ever again until you get rid of your delusions
@@victorrivera2291 he was from the gutter AND went to Juilliard. Whatever tupac bio u read, read it entirely.
Pac became a totally different person when he hooked up with Suge. That night at Quad Studios changed everything.
He became a little more aggressive but he was always into that lifestyle before suge it’s not like pac was this good saint who never talked about violence and things of that nature before death row
The same one that shot two police officer before? Y’all go off anything you hear instead of facts
MonkeyBarz179 he became more aggressive when he went to jail for something he did not do and everyone kicked him while he was down....it wasn’t suge
No b4 that he had thug life. It started after him playing bishop in juice.
Tupac always had that black pride ideal in all of his music so I believe it was the fact that black ppl did this to him had him the most upset.
If being raised by a single mother and literally being born in a prison and surviving 5 gunshot wounds then another 7 idk wtf qualifies you to be a “gangster”
Are you 15? Grow up my brother this isn't the 90s. Being a disciplined man is honorable not acting like a "gangsta".
Not dying from gunshots makes you gangster? There's teachers from Columbine high school that got shot and lived are they gang bangers to you? Are they hardcore? Dont speak on shit you have no knowledge about, kid.
Hananiah Levi Israel survival through life and death difficulties makes you “gangsta”
Davis C mfs steady changing topics...Tupac isn’t pussy and he was not a gangster or a gang member
Davis C 99% of gang members pussy only tough with numbers around
Michael Jai White don't know shit. Jermaine Hopkins said that people keep saying he "stayed in character" because people really didn't know Tupac before Juice. But in reality, he was like that when the cast met him. Then he goes on to describe different experiences they had with Tupac.
Jai White talking that bs about staying in character while Vlad talking about Gangbanging. That's two different points of view coming together while still trying to tear Pac down. That's a con move.
Bra stop . Tupac was no real gangsta and that’s just fine . Doesn’t take or give anything away from his legacy ...
Tupac stans😂😂
Yea i normally fuck wit michael but i feel this some hating shit. Especially the choice of words making it seem like Tupac is fake. He just riding for his homies rich or not
He liked poetry, was a backup dancer for Digital Underground wearing speedos, do we need to keep going or of course you kids completely clueless about him which is obvious?
@@taffygore6285 yes be cause he PUT ON AN ACT AROUND BLACK PEOPLE! HE WAS PLAYING THE ROLE THE WHOLE TIME WHICH IS WHY HE WAS GOOD IN JUICE. Pac in reality is a bisexual ballet poet boy who was modeling for white men. Do ya googles
2pac always ends up being a subject of conversation. Crazy how much he has impacted the entertainment industry.
What impact is that?
@@turdfergusonii176 He was one of the first rappers to use beef to propel sales. One of the first rappers, (along with Will Smith) to become a respected actor. His life is literally talked about everyday and the nigga has been dead for almost a quarter century.
@@adrielmoody I agree other than the actor part. He was a mediocre actor.
@@turdfergusonii176 He made being a studio gangster cool. So many rappers picked up that red flag and became a "gangster".
I think it's the phenomenon of rappers personifying gangsters like Hollywood characters.
Starting to Vlad got a thing when it comes to Pac and Nas i swear
Yes he’s obsessed with 2pac
Don't forget ice cube to ✊💪💯
This what I wanna kno. Who made him certified to say who’s gangster and who’s not? Cause he knos karate?
quavez100 he was his friend , he hung out with him , played pool with him, and said pac was totally different when they were by themselves than when another black dude came in . He was talking about pac being not a gangster , he wasn’t saying anyone else was or wasn’t
@@Jjwalways70 pac's fans are the definiton of "groupie niggas". Shit is amazing🤣🤣🤣
The fact that he hung out with him is pretty certifiable. I’d trust what he has to say about PAC over Suge Knight or most of these lying ass, weed head, degenerate, gangster wannabe rappers PAC hung with.
Lou / Delorian , you are right guys , these young guys are like sheep looking up to these hip hop singers thinking they are cool , meanwhile half of them aren’t gangsters at all , the real gangstas are running crimes and drugs getting shot and doing time , what’s cool about that , fukin nothing . Sadly they see role models in idiots , and I guess some areas they don’t have a choice but to join the pressure is so strong ,
@@Jjwalways70 he wasn't 2pac friend he barely knew Pac Napoleon even said it micheal jai mad kuz Pac snapped on him when he was working at a hotel yeah he was a bellboy he fuckin lien
Let’s just say Pac in today’s time Pac was willing to fight back instead of holding up a camera phone.
PAC was willing to talk shit. He was only tough under a mob.
You said the word right out of my mouth
@@oknarphianexkraveduccial4325 stop capping
This guy loves to speak on behalf of dead people.
That's what I'm saying I wish they leave pac name alone like seriously,I dont even believe half the people that claimed they new him ne whom could be lying
S R exactly 🙄🤦🏾♀️
So you can't speak on someone if they are dead? You dudes worship men it's sad.
@@King_Arthur_ Says the the guy who's defending a man.
@@MrHealthJunkie I'm not defending anyone.
Pac was an entertainer and a politician who never broke character. You don't go to performing arts school and take ballet classes to be a rapper. Pac was born and raised in New York but claimed to be a west side gangster rapper with a nose ring.
You can tell Michael Jai White and a lot of other people in the industry are jealous of 2Pac as he is still remembered more than people that still exist till this day and that is 27 years after his death
Yeah, remembered as a backdoor gunner. Nothing hard about him except his knob when he see another man.
You talking about a dead man’s knob think u need to check ur sexuality
@@America2Monaco and ur here talking about a dead man’s knob 😂
@@America2Monaco and all u talk about is peoples knobs 😂
Tupac was gay and a ballerina. Drake is a real thug and everything Tupac wanted to be
Shooting 2 people beating on 1 person , not even knowing the victim , that’s GANGSTA! That means PAC was strapped and wasn’t afraid to use it. Nobody brings that up
But he wasn't part of an actual gang so it doesn't count. 😂
Salzi Re-uploaded you don’t have to be from a gang to be gangster , moron !
Everybody keeps talking about this act that Tupac was patraying if I'm talking to a friend I'm not going to be gangster I'm going to be gangster when the situation turns gangster. I know people that knew Tupac he was definitely a gangster and revolutionary.
Being a gangster is nothing to be proud of
@@mastere1737 why don't you go to those crip and blood sites and school brothers i do. We're not talking about being proud to be a gangster we talkin about the Authenticity of Tupac's gangster.Your wright nothing is cool about being gangster.
I disagree Pac got killed being loyal to the wrong people💯✨✊🏾👊🏾👌🏿💪🏿
This guy ain’t a real fighter also he just a actors that knows how to make it look good....
Lol nah bruh he real Deal no gimmicks
Dimitri Thompson show me one real fight he’s been involved in....besides sparring and training with other fighters....
@@nasa3922 bruh just go up to him personally if your really that curious. why u tryna investigate like a cop
Tupac wasn't a gangster, he was a Thug Sir.
2pac never said he was follow the thug life movement understand what was thug life and the meaning behind thug life once pac went to prison it got sidetracked
U tell us wat thug life mean then
@@detroitdrama3 watch the tupac resurrection dumbass he explains it SMARTASS
@@bgstv10001 i aint watchin shit, u tell me shithead
Detroit Drama thug life filled cemeteries and prisons. shit was foolishness
Detroit Drama you drama just like your name entails. Smfh
Bruh this guy is staring to annoy me he swears he knows everything and yes I’m sure he’s a great fighter but that doesn’t mean you know everything
This is the same guy who once said without a doubt he could whoop Bruce Lee. Trying to say size is everything. Not true. I love Michael Jai White but his views and his attitude comes across as pretentious
You seem to have missed his whole interview. He is speaking from his experience and opinion based on the career he has! While your don't have to agree with everything he says, you certainly can't dismiss him. I appreciate his candor and especially his reluctance to grandstand; which he certainly could do. Check his record, don't hate.
For real sometimes he has quite a hint of ego in the shit he says and how he speaks on stuff, asif theres not endless variables to do with everything and his breakdown of something is the fact or a - the outside above God view, when it aint neccessarily the case and could be quite far off. Tupac could be dived into very complexly, even people who speak on him barely seem to be able to do so atal, just listen to the mans fucking lyrics, interviews and all the stuff he says in them FOR A START. They dont have the capacity to correctly do so to certain degrees an levels, its like a tip of the iceberg baseline rounded cover overview when they talk on him because they cant even comprehend the levels to him.
MambaMMA 24.2 and it seems he has way too many but then again this is the man who could beat Bruce lee with no problems lmao and he only back steps when people call him on his shit, look at his other interviews with glad the man talks like he’s untouchable talking about beating up guys with guns etc
MambaMMA 24.2 ok I kinda get that but he was was stupid cocky about it idgaf you can’t say 100% you can beat a man who has trained like Bruce
People forget Pac was already reppin Thug Life on his 1st album while still being a revolutionist. He didn't just start being tough on his last couple albums
Yeah, no more MJW when you hop out in a city you're not from. You shoot two cops, that's gangster.
I mean if you grow up in NY and they scream Westside with thug life on your stomach then you got some identity issues 😂
He never claimed to be a gangster smh. He was a thug . There's a difference
I agree Eazy-E called himself a gangster but 2Pac called himself a Thug
thug, gangster. same shit. both indulge in illegal activity. either way, it got him killed.
"I ain't a killer but don't push me".... He wasn't a gangbanger, but he was a street soldier and ready to die and ready to kill for his homeboys. To me that's a real gangster...
He lived in marine county my highschool played his he didn't grow up on the streets kid more like a 2 story crib😂
@@mattyboy9304 Marine city is a predominantly black ghetto located in Marine Country, one of the richest areas in north california. All the blacks stuck in a ghetto around rich white people 🤣
no to me that some real bitch am trying to be down shit what home boys them death row dudes he had just met he didn't grow up with them dudes
You get shot 5 times ! Why would you still play that role ?! That's who he was at Heart!!!!
Like Treach said, "Pac wasn't no gangster, Pac was a soldier." Calling Tupac a gangster is like an insult because he was much more than that. Tupac was a ridah and a revolutionary.
So killing someone in a self defense makes you a gangster all of a sudden ? 😂😂😂
That video caption sums it all up. As much as he was talented, Tupac's immaturity *that day* got him killed. For you to see it, you need to divorce his talent from fan over zealous obsession with him.
Pac was a very complicated man. My mom gave me his book of poetry called The Rose That Grew From Concrete when I was young. That was my introduction to Tupac. I met Tupac the writer and the poet before I met 2pac the rapper. He had a tortured soul, born from revolutionary parentage and he was actually born in jail while his mom was with the Black Panthers. We are all multidimensional people. Nobody is just one thing. Pac embraced every facet of his personality and poured his soul into his music. He did get too carried away with the thug inside of him. He allowed the beast inside of him to completely take over. Balance is the key to everything.
He had that Malcolm x mind set
but how is that gang though. gang is about organized crime for easy money.
The same Tupac who refused to get on the floor at Quad studios despite being threatened with guns is the same Tupac who shot them cops and the same Tupac who punched Orlando. He wore his heart on his sleeve which in this world of clowns let alone rappers made him unique and is part of the reason he is so revered.
Good point. Pac said, "a coward dies a thousand deaths a soilder dies but once"
Did he put on his gangster when he refused to run it with guns pointed at his face. This dude flipped off a cameraman while being hauled into an ambulance on a stretcher. Showed up to court in a wheelchair less than 24 hours after being shot.
According to LVPD officer at the scene his last words were, "fuck you" thats not contrived. I think Tupac duplicitous nature is confused as him putting on an act. They were all very real polarizing sides of one individual.
As a kid growing up to me he never came of like he was "Gangster". Even when he would wild out. I always looked at his outburst as somebody who was just pissed off and every human being has their good days and bad. What person in the world hasn't snapped or made bad choices in their 20s? People forget 25 is young. It's crazy to me that people who claim to be a friend or whatever would choose to focus on the negatives of his life instead of the good he did while he was here. Nobody is perfect man, they need to let him rest.
Exactly man it hurts me how I wish I was in the US to shut them up I will. We Africans have mad respect for Tupac
meanwhile, rolling around and screaming "thug life"
@@arseeoliveira6934 thug is an acronym
@@internet_dudehe said “i’m a thug cus i grew up in the gutter and i’m still here”. that doesn’t make u a thug, it makes u a person that grew up around thugs.
@@Cell.Boxer92 stop speaking on things that were before your time. he always said he was a thug T.H.U.G... it was an acronym and he gave it his own meaning. also most "gangstas" are just product of their environment
Tupac himself said "I don't make gangster rap".
He never claimed to be a gangster personally. His music is only a reflection of life in the ghetto and everything that comes with it.
People still snacking on Pac's bones. Let that man rest. Cripes.
That's the funniest shit I've ever heard 🤣
I DON'T RESPECT THAT.THE MAN DEAD AND OTHER BROTHERS DYING AND YOU SITTING HERE JUDGING HIS LIFE🕳🕳🕳
Pac knew nikkas was gonna speak on him when he was gone he even said it in his song nikkas talk a lot of shit but that’s till I’m gone cause they fear me in the Physical form.
@@lulmaad20 that verse is dope...but lets be clear no one was scared of pac lol
pharaoh ford yes they were people diss pac right after he died even diddy responded to the hit em up track after he died.
@@lulmaad20 nah...puff dissed him living...he's a bitch too tho...but lets be real pac was scared of the niggaz the set him up and shot him the first time...so he scapegoated biggie...pac knew exactly who got him jammed up but he went after industry cats??? Weak
@@pharaohford1981 Do you know this for a fact or is it something you heard or read
Pac is still the greatest rapper, poet, prophet in my book. Music and interviews still relevant to this day. Proves we are still dealing with the same monsters in society.
Not even close. That's just nostalgia and hype talking. People always get more famous when they pass. And a tragic passing only builds the mystique more.
@@clovers-zi5fe spoken from a person that was prob not alive when Pac was still on the Earth. There have been a lot of dead rap artist but none will have their name mentioned as much as Pac nor surpass his fame.
@@clovers-zi5fe Ikr, people say that are clueless about Hip hop.. People been doing that before pac.. Melle Mel, Kane, Krs One, Chuck D, Rakim, Grandmaster caz, kool moe dee, Whodni etc
If you want your culture to thrive, I suggest you guys stop idolising gangsta rap and the like. You had jazz, rnb and soul and you prefer these trash music? No wonder every new generation is getting more fcked up.
Pac was a tough mf, but deep down he wasn’t a gangster, which is a compliment actually.
R.i.P to Tupac all I got to say is stop speaking on someone who can't speak for themselves also Micheal Jai white with all the skills he has has he ever used them to protect the people Tupac help a man getting beat by cops without fear Tupac was shot multiple times and still had his middle finger up Tupac was hated by a whole east coast and still was pulling up bone thugz say pac held gunz for them when they needed him to last thing pac told the cop after getting shot the second time in the car was fuck you if that's him acting he needs all the Oscars real shit and he wasn't a gangster thug life nigga
Just because of the title alone I'm surprised this didn't have more dislikes than likes.🤣😂🤣😂
Everybody knows this to be true by now. Still doesn't make pac any less of a real nigga. He portrayed a gangster to connect with us yet spread positive messages through his music
The word portray means to play the part. In other words not authentic,not real
@@jerrybarnes8258 Lol I know what the word means bro that's why I used it I meant it didn't make him any less of a man. He didn't use his platform to poison our people through music like so many do now. His actions may not have always reflected the message but he made sure that our people received these positive messages from someone who appeared to look just like them. That's why I salute pac
@@WrathOfEvo he had his share of poisonous songs. Shall I name a few?
@@jerrybarnes8258 Again, he was portraying a gangster right? Majority of his music wasn't I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you while you nitpick because I know you get the gist of what I mean. If you don't then oh well 🤷🏾♂️
All I know is that nobody was questioning shit when he alive all these different opinions on this and that when he was living and walking the earth I'm going to leave with that
Bro of course,that happens with everyone bro,especially if you was a threat to sertn people the moment pac died,I knew people was gonna be talking crazy he was alive to talk now he's dead,but that could happen to anybody including us
We all knew he was acting like Bishop...
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Pac was as real as it gets, and I don't think he'd give 2 shits what these goofy ass dudes has to say about him✌
this kungfu fighting actor talking about staying in character being true to the heart but we aint seen not one fight cmon now hershall walker got in the octagon at 50 bruh
He explained in an early interview why he wouldn’t get in the octagon the pay is abysmal and it’s simply not worth the effects
@@dvrkmvztxr9636 Why fight when you can make the $$$$$$$$ doing less damaging and more expansive things, like films. I have a brother who has rooms full of competitive trophies (Karate) and he holds Jai in high regard.
😂😂😂💀
@@dvrkmvztxr9636 talk to conor mcgregor dummy boxing is more risky than mma because the head got more punch
Chris Barkov ???
2pac never claimed to be a gangster. That was the media portrayal of him. He was a black panther. Doesn’t get anymore gangster than that
My thing is, Tupac never really called himself a gangster like that. He promoted that he was a thug. People have this idea of what a thug is, but Pac broke down what a thug was to him which wasn't what most people think when they think "THUG". And I liked how he broke it down personally and agree, on his definition, he was one. Not a gangster. Tupac wasn't a character to me. He wasn't fake. You never really hear any confirmed stories about him being a punk or anything to that nature. Was always stand up and in your face if there was a problem.
"Revenge of the Nerds" is the best way to phrase that era of hip hop. Most rappers back then were smart dudes who got influenced by their grim reality. They looked up to gangsters (rich ones) instead of going to college to be in a position of power. Who do you blame?
so true
MJW is out here talking about who gangster when he never stood up for his own people dude straight up in love with white folks he only saying that cuz he know martial arts FOH
This bum love talking about Tupac I used to fw him but now nah like bro he dead
Growing up as a kid I hung around with Crips and Nortenos but I never did any gangster stuff. I did get a lot of recognition within their community and people associated me as a gangster because of the crowd I was with. It was rather dangerous when I think about it because I did have rival gangs go up to me. I would tell my homies and they would handle it.
Shooting a cop is the most gangster shit ever PAC a legend for that
2Pac was a solid dude.. he had the Black Panther Party background.. He had the energy of a warrior. He wasn't a gangster though, and he was indeed in character. We can honestly compare him to 6ix9ine. Let's be real... only difference is Pac wouldn't have bended.. wouldn't have told and he prolly would've only got locked for some revolutionary shit... but... he was wildin. Let's call it what it is. He still a legend. Still one the greatest. Not refuting that.
Vantum Noir that’s actually not what I’m doing and you should read before you reply... I’m only saying in terms of him wildin out, repping a gang and using it as his image, being influenced by the ppl around him.. which is the same shit they both did.. neither of them coming up in gang life. You gotta also look at how young Pac was when he died...
So you telling me PAC was acting when he punched a real life killer in the face?? Nah Fam PAC was a real one he was just a good friend
killadubbje and shot 2 police been in numerous shootings before that fighting the director’s to menace 2 society
He was acting...he wasn't Blood...he was doing too much.
Pac wasn't acting when it came to ballet though 😜🧚♀️🤣🧚♀️😜
Pac was a gay ballet poet actor, fetishsized by white men. Do ya googles.
Yeah he punched a killer with 4 other men super gangster 🙄 hitting a man with other men not one on one omg he was soooo hard 🙄
Every time this guys speaks it makes more & more sense to why none of story lines in his movies actually make sense. This guy just knows how to fight & regurgitate shallow points of views, almost word for word. He’s programmed
You nxggas are retarded n not gangsta at all
Every body got something to say never walk them shoes tho!! Pac was born a rebel!! The Black Panthers Was Gangsta!! So how can u come from that bloodline and don't have the same traits!! Black Panthers Never Said They Was Gangsta!! But as black ppl in the hood they were gangsta!! Shootout wit police!! Broke his Aunt out of jail!! We in the hood call dat gangsta!! Not gang banging!! 2pac never called his self a Gangsta not once!! So where this shit coming from anyway??? THUG!! Its what he repp!! We Don't Bang For The Color!! We Bang For The Principal!!! I know if i had to go to War wit a Rapper I want Pac on my side!! He said Treach a Gangsta!! But Treach and Pac where like Brothers!! So what u saying is the person u want on yo side to fight witch is Treach so u say!! You saying his play brother witch is 2pac was basically a Square!! Im from the hood!! Killers rock wit killers!! Jackers rock wit Jackers!! And Square ass mfas run wit Square mfas!! I know way better then to take yo Bs narrative!!!😎
I'm starting to wonder about Michael I'm aware Tupac wasn't a gangster but he was gangsta when it was right to be so the brotha wasn't a punk he didn't f..k with people but no one was f..k..g with him either Michael's actin like Tupac grew up in a gated community and his whole bit was Shakespearean acting the dude's base is the hood and ghetto like most of us from back then and even now.
2pac wasn't a gangster but he was a Thug and those are different things. The media portrayed Pac as a gangster and he fed into that a bit at different stages of his career. Regardless he was real and changed the game forever. He's the archetype for all rappers who have come since.
Can’t blame the mainstream for calling pac a gangster, he literally had “Thug Life” tatted on him & he played the gangster role really well to the point where we convinced millions he was this person
Lol thug life had deeper meaning , he won over with the masses because dumbshits like you only see him as a gangster…
I mean he legit was practically a gang banger at the end of his life. He banged on Orlando and was killed for it.
Tupac shot them 2 police. If that aint gangster then wat is?
Shut your dumb ass up !!!
Tupac actually shot two off-duty cops that were harassing a black motorist. If that ain’t gangster, I don’t know what is.
"Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven." ~ James 5:14-15
Gtfoh that bullshit never works!
@Kandi Kane ?
Pac started in Ballerina then Digital Underground he should of just stuck with Concious Hip Hop
The impact of getting shot five times and getting incarcerated all within a couple of months is not to be underestimated... that sequence of events must have had an extremely negative effect on his life. After going through all that, I am sure some of the light inside of him was buried... Perhaps that light would have had a chance to resurface if he had not died so young
people who get shot have scars and people who get locked up have records in the database. this character had neither of those.
I love how the interviewer talks about killing people as if its a cool thing to do. Wtf
Killing someone breaking into your home or killing someone in order to protect your family don’t make u a gangster...it makes u a man!
Tupac Was No Gangster. Pac was a Revolutionary ie. Soldier..