Compare Ruger LCP vs S&W M&P Bodyguard 380
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- YAFI - You Asked For It: A comparison review of the Ruger LCP in 380 ACP and the the Smith and Wesson M&P Bodyguard 380. Both hold 6 rounds, are small, chambered in 380 ACP, can be pocket carried, can be ankle carry, can be small of the back or anywhere else. Which would YOU Choose?
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My LCP is my go to for CC. Every day, every where it’s legal. Had it for years, works like a charm and quite functional one you get use to it. Way better in hot climates than any other small weapon.
Same. I carry it in the neighboring anti 2A state. Eff them.
I personally feel like I like the internal hammer fired heavy triggers for a pocket pistol over the mostly cocked lcpii
A drop of white paint applied with a toothpick on the front sight helped the LCP quite a bit.
I have the Bodyguard and the LCP Max. Both perform well for me and both are in my carry rotation. I think people expect way too much out of these tiny guns. These are made for up close and ugly encounters, not shooting bullseyes at 20 yards. In a street defense scenario, you don't have time to use the sights or "aim" at the bad guy, you only have time to draw and empty the mag center mass into the threat. For this purpose, these pistols will do the job. These are not what you carry for hiking through bear country or traveling through the south side of Chicago. These are for low risk area's as a "just in case" weapon or a backup to your larger caliber pistol.
The South Side of Chicago is where Bad Bad Leroy Brown hangs out with his .32 in his pocket.
So what do you carry whilst you're strutting afoot through the Southside of Chicago?
@@romans6two338 A Thompson of course. Why do you think they call it the Chicago typewriter?
Exactly!
I had a Bodyguard that gave me a ton of problems. I sent it back to S&W twice, never worked reliably. Tossed it.
I've had 3 versions of the original LCP. The "1st gen" (minimal sights), Custom (red trigger), and the later version with slightly bigger sights. They all worked 100%. I guess you can say im bias in Ruger's favor.
Also had a Taurus TCP738, which i regret selling. it worked very reliably too.
Everyone I know that had a bodyguard, had issues with it. 3 people total.
LCPII .380 is my workout/jogging CCW. It isn't fun at the range but it's never had a failure.
Try shooting a box of 50 rounds at the range using a one handed grip. Mine was super reliable if I had a nice two handed grip. Once I started shooting one handed it had FTE and FTF. I stopped carrying it after that.
Neither for me, I would pay a little more and get a Kahr P380
The Kahrs are all simply superb! The 9mm PM9 and CM9 are only a tiny bit larger than the other .380s and can fit 8-round mags that stick out a bit. The design minimizes 9mm recoil somehow too---they are very shootable!.....................elsullo
Both are respectable guns. Personally, pocket carry for me is Springfield Armory 911 and because it's Hammer Stricker. Thanks Hammer for the Friday video.
I had one, and it smacked my hand harder than any other 380. Such an awesome pistol though
I traded away an LCP to get the S&W Bodyguard. The LCP was too small to grip so it would act like limp wristing . The Bodyguard is easier to grip and doesn't malfunction as a result. YMMV. Thank you for the review.
I just bought the LCP 1 3 months for a good small pocket gun it’s great especially since where I’m from you can buy it for $185.
i own BOTH the LCP MAX & M&P Bodyguard with NO external safety (police model). The sights on BOTH LCP MAX & M&P Bodyguard sights can be replaced with Williams Fiber sights and they use the same sights... The LCP MAX is a much more comfortable gun to shoot at the range because of the wider pistol grip than the M&P Bodyguard... The trigger on the M&P Bodyguard is a TRUE double action as it has double strike....
I did have a slide issue with the LCP MAX at first but Ruger exchanged the new slide and NO further issues and the slide locks back on an empty magazine just fine...
Great friggen content per usual love this channel 💪🏼
I hated the trigger on the smith and wesson bodyguard
I have the original LCP and I had to put a flat faced trigger on it. I don't every change the trigger on guns but this was a good upgrade. It changes the position of the trigger when it breaks so I'm not moving the gun so much when I pull.
I had a LCP Custom for 6 years carried it all the time unless at work (prohibited). It was easy to carry, practiced with it and got good, but sometimes because of its diminutive size my hand would interfere with the slide. Changed to SW 642, never looked back. It felt heavier for several months, but got used to it and love it for pocket carry and with practice makes proficiency.
I always carry in prohibited areas unless there's a metal detector. Gun free zones are a target rich environment.
"Stay strapped or get clapped."
- George Washington, probably.
I too had no problem getting used to a pocket revolver. No issues with reliability, and I forget that it is there. Easy to grip instantly and no safeties or ejection to worry about..........................elsullo
I was looking for a pocket gun and had narrowed the search down to these two. Just handling both of them new at the gun store,I liked the rugers trigger better. But before deciding on it ,I went to a local range that had both guns in rental. Now keep in mind both guns were rentals and who knows how many thousands of rounds had fired from them. They both looked to have equal wear. With a two finger grip on both guns you have to hold them both pretty tight. I noticed that when I squeezed the ruger a little too hard the magazine would drop down just enough to take the gun out of battery. Now I could cup my grip and hold the magazine in place. But the M&P didn't have that problem. So I bought the M&P. I feel confident I made the right choice. I have taken it to the range and practiced with it every time I shoot hand guns. It runs flawlessly. I carry it when I walk my dog at night. I live in Florida where bathing suits are formal attire. Wearing a bathing suit a tee shirt and flip flops. I have no problem putting it in my bathing suit pocket and concealing it.
If I pocket carry, which is rare, I’ll carry the LCP. It has been reliable and is accurate. Has the false reset but that has never bothered me when actually shooting. Gotta make sure the magazine is completely seated when you load it.
👍 like them both. Was not aware of the issue with the LCP Max. Would like to see a 22LR version of the Bodyguard.
"Was not aware of the magazine issue" - that jumped out at me like a red flag too. So many channels are just selling guns.
I carry a LCP Gen 1 with white paint on the front sight and a Hogue grip sleeve.
No experience with the bodyguard but love my LCP. With a few minor upgrades it’s even enjoyable at range
No shit, 2 days ago and I just started looking at the bodyguard. You put out great comparison videos I remember from one I saw before that compared two I was tossed between.
I sold my bodyguard. I had it 2018 to 2023. It started having a issue with the mag falling out in 2021. I tried all sorts of grips and let others shoot it, same thing. Lost my confidence. Mine was like yours, gen 2 no laser, I had 5 mags for it. It also had bad issues with peening near the extractor. So I finally sold it. I got a lcp gen 1 in 2023, worked like a charm, it rusted really bad and i had to strip the barrel with vinegar, leaving it in the white. I sold it because I ended up getting a Beretta apx a1 carry instead.
Have you heard anything about the Bodygaurd 2.0???
I’ve carried the original LCP for well over 10 yrs, hundreds of rounds of FMJ & self defense HP, absent a single malfunction of any kind. It has a Hogue grip sleeve, the seven round mag to help w/my XLG hands & is carried in a DeSantis pocket holster. A drop of white paint on the front sight does help to some extent.
Thank you for a very useful review. I especially appreciate your mentions of which guns are double-action-only or partially cocked, which is why I own Kahr pistols! Most reviewers do not even think of this issue. You could have mentioned that you can PAINT THE SIGHTS in any way that works best for you: two different colors for front and rear; white outline rear (my preference---just "drop the ball into the basket") You can use enamel model paint, nail polish, or my favorite, white TYPEWRITER CORRECTION FLUID. The TCF is available in sponge-tipped pens now and is VERY BRIGHT and quite durable and easy to touch up. Any solvent will remove it if you want to change it................................elsullo
I have the LCPMax and love it slide locks every time and it’s the gun I carry when I can’t carry a gun.
Be serious.
I've seen a CZcams video or two questioning the reliability of the Bodyguard. I have the LCP II and LCP Max, and I've found them reliable and accurate. Because of the slightly extra weight of the LCP Max, I'd rather pocket carry the LCP II.
Had both Don't care for them trigger no good on s&w mags fall out on lcps
Nice Video!!! Thanks
😊Glad you liked it!
I really like both of these tools... The LCP Max truly raised the bar for this type of purpose built tool. IF S&W would update the Bodyguard .380 I believe they could regain the market share of these small pews. The current version has been around for some time now... S&W has been updating their other line items...come on S&W, give the lil guy some loviin'.
The Bodyguard 2.0 should be out this month. There was an ad in USCCA's magazine a few months back and a teaser from S&W a few days ago (you can find it on their CZcams channel).
If the M&P Bodyguard 380 was available without a thumb safety I'd already own one. I have an original LCP, a current, recent production LCP, an LCP II and two LCP MAXs. The MAX magazines not locking back during dry handling has always been an issue but never (for me) during live fire in either of my maxes. Thus I trust them for carry when going below 9mm. But Ruger isn't actually fixing the issue for whatever reasons they may have. Ruger's LCPs of all stripes are generally very reliable, but they don't rise to the quality you might expect from top tier brands. Before anyone gets twisted over it, yes, I said it, Ruger is not a top tier brand. They make decent guns and back them with a generally good repair policy, but they keep things as cheap as possible. Which is fine as they have always been a working man's gun company, and that's ok.
I've got the MP Bodyguard, I painted front site white and carry in a Sticky holster in my front pocket. mine has a safety but I don't use it because it has a very long trigger pull that's about 10lbs, one thing it has over the Rugers is second strike capability,
The Bodyguard 380 2.0 just released last week and has a no thumb safety option, and it's a much better gun. I'm sure you've seen all the videos being posted about it. I got to compare it to the LCP II Saturday. BG was better.
I have a new Bodyguard the mag falls out when shooting. It also drops the slide when I drop the mag for a reload. S &W quality control right now in 2024 is pretty bad. I just carry the lcp without a round in the chamber as Ruger even says it is not drop safe. The Bodyguard has a firing pin safety block like Glock which why I purchased it. But it has to go back. For a general carry/trail gun it is now my Glock 42.
My wife got talked into an LCP over a decade ago.
We have firearms that get shot up to two thousand rounds per year. The LCP has yet to hit 700. It was easier to pass calculus IV than to get a comfortable grip on that THING.
Smith is getting ready to come out with an updated bodyguard 380 with an updated trigger like the Shield and new M&P 2.0 and 10 and 12 round capacity.
I'm glad I saw this comment because I'm almost surely going to get a pocket 380, and I just don't like the LCP series, but I've heard the Bodyguard trigger isn't great and from this video that seems true. I guess I'll just wait a few months. Thanks for posting!
I am CONVINCED that if any of us ever have to fire a gun in self defense, the trigger will be the last thing on our minds. The idea that anyone is going to listen for a click or focus on a tactile reset is not likely. Once someone fires the first shot, probably in low light without hearing protection, both sight and hearing are going to be compromised. I have never had to fire a weapon in self defense, but I HAVE had to present one and be willing to fire. The stiffness of the trigger was not on my mind at the time.
@@jonathanhines2441 the better the trigger the more accurate someone will be,especially someone who doesn’t train. These two guns have terrible triggers. No one said anything about listening for a reset or a click when in a self defense situation, but a terrible trigger will make someone much more prone to pull the shot or anticipate more and this can be terribly detrimental in a high stress situation if someone had to use it. Shoot a sig p238 against either of these two guns and tell me which one you’d rather have if you were in a situation like that again!
The bodyguard is the perfect deep conceal weapon. The capacity is fine to me
@@kevinhullinger8743 well we’re all glad you’re happy, but I think 99.9% of people would take a better trigger and more capacity, all things being equal!
Break the BG380 trigger in proper (approx 1k pulls) use Rem DriLube on its parts, and it becomes s great DA trigger. Excellent for carry. Mines runs great on Fiocchi and Speer, all hot Underwoods so far. Gets better every range session. 23 yrd shots doable, much better than the LCP, for me. And just fun to shoot as more challenge at the range.
I love the original LCP. Mine really does not like Fiocchi ammo and it doesn't like hollow points with very aggressive tips. It runs Federal Punch flawlessly though.
I’ve seen a broken extractor come flying out the side of an LCP……..a sample size of 1. I have a Max, and the slide doesn’t always lock back, but the LCP doesn’t lock back at all if memory serves, as the LCP didn’t impress me enough to remember much about it. Max is much more usable than the LCP IMHO.
Lcp is awesome, needs to be able to change the sights and the finish is trash. Shooting my lcp 2 380 today. The og has been insanely reliable though. Had multiple bodyguards, I loved them too.
For some reason that I don't understand, I consider these ultra micro 380 a novelty and go back to the old friend the snubby. I know that these pistols are more compact than a revolver but for some reason I don't trust them.
My original lcp is extremely reliable, but it does beat my hand up at the range.
The bodyguard wins for me for one reason: It is a DAO ONLY pistol. For deep concealment and pocket carry, it strikes me as a safer gun to carry, amost like a revolver, and that is important to me since tgis is a gun that will likely be carried in pockets and tight places possibly with other objects and ready to be drawn quickly from possibe a non conventional holster or storage device. I wish it hadmore capacity of 10 or more and be a Bodyguard Plus...Time will tell if S&W will make one or not...
I like them both! I got the lcp, but im going to get that s&w!! That little lcp hits pretty hard! A nasty little round!! Great video 💯💯
What ammo are you running through your lcp in this video?
How does recoil on these guns compare to a P365/Hellcat?
why dont you use the ruger lcp 2 which i find to be a better gun than the lcp2. they dont bother me at the range at all and i have dispatched several rather nasty snakes with mine. if i could afford and find i would probably get the lcp max just because, but alas i am on a small pension and retired so i need the food money.
I have been carrying the original LCP daily since it first launched, runs like a clock but you need to understand it’s a get off my ass basic handgun
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The original LCP is one of the worst carry pistols ever made.
I’d rather risk slide bite from a walther PPK than carry that thing.
The cure for the PPk slide bite is a simple rubber grip sleeve with a 'finger ridge" or two. This makes it MUCH easier to shoot without the muzzle rise that causes the bite. It is also just a LITTLE bigger than the other pocket .380s which really improves handling and accuracy, and NO slide bite............................elsullo
If you think the original LCP is terrible, you haven't shot many guns. And you don't understand its purpose! If it was terrible they wouldn't still be selling it!
lcp max hold my beer🍺
I carry a bodygaurd
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.380 / 9x17mm/ 9 mm Kurz ? Same size hole in your target as tha 9x19 luger.
So why compromise with something too small for your hands and accuracy and low capacity? and unreliability as reported by others here??
Love my new Glock G25 with 15 rds and 4" barrel.
Same size as the G19.
The idea of a pocket .380 is good on paper but they are general huge pieces of crap…. I carry a j frame for small/ pocket/ backup gun.
My ruger LCP was such a piece of junk.Not even worth taking to the range.I couldn't get more than a few shots before it jams.
How many different types and brands of ammo did you try? It makes a big difference.......................elsullo
Two ancient guns. You really dug deep into the junk drawer for this one.
They both suck. Lcp max is the way to go
facts i love mine i carry it in a minimalist holster can tell its on me
Both of these guns are pieces of shit. The M&P is practically useless out of the box due to the trigger being so bad. You’re pretty much forced to get a trigger job done on it if you plan to shoot it at all and good luck finding a gunsmith who will do it for you. It’s a giant pain is ass and even after all of this it’s still unreliable. With all of this said however it’s still a well constructed weapon. The LCP is just cheap junk that jams all the time. If you’re going to go with a .380 you need to go with an Walther ccp or a ppk. The SW EZ’s are pretty good too. You just can’t go with those plastic mouse guns
For me, it’s not really the trigger - it’s the trigger reach. It’s way too short which makes me shoot low left by the time the trigger breaks. I am ok with DAO pistols but most of those are revolvers. The revolvers have a much longer trigger reach which prevents me from “pushing” the pistol down and left before the trigger break.
I guess that the concept of "double-action-only" is lost upon you? I wonder: have you broken in any of these guns, starting with cleaning and lubing right out of the box? Have you tried several types and brands of ammo, and none in cheap bulk boxes from FartMart stores? It is odd how your experience it so different than so MANY other shooters who find them perfectly reliable with a little care........................elsullo