TWIN TEST: Citroen ëC4X vs Renault Megane E-Tech. Which family electric car is best? | Electrifying
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The Citroen e-C4 X and the Renault Megane E-Tech are both medium-size cars aiming to persuade switchers that they don’t need the bulk and weight of an SUV. But while they both are around the same price, they do like to do things a little differently. The Megane E-Tech is designed to deliver a sporty drive while the Citroen majors on comfort.
The Megane Techno tested costs a not insignificant £38,495. That’s £1,000 more than the Citroen, but it does have a lot more power at 217bhp. That’s also a little more than rivals such as the Cupra Born and Kia Niro EV and delivers a 7.5 second 0-62 time. There’s a 60kWh battery under the floor which gives an official range of 280 miles.
This Citroen tested is the Shine Plus, which costs £35,495 and is slightly longer than the Renault. It comes with a 50kWh power pack and a motor producing 134bhp, some 83bhp less than the Renault. It means the 0-62 time is more leisurely too, at 9.5 seconds. The smaller battery means less range as well - 221 miles versus the Renault’s 280.
Join Nicki and Nicola as they crunch all the important numbers and put both cars through their paces on the road. Which French fancy would you opt for? Perhaps you have an alternative? If so, let us know in the comments below.
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I’ve had a Megane Etech equilibre (entry model) for a few months now. Fantastic car. It just gets on with the job and is very well screwed together. Renault have come a long way. Having it on PCP masks the cost somewhat too. I love it ❤️
I've had my Iconic in White with Black roof for 7weeks now. I've driven it on long journeys, and when driven carefully on Eco, I get between 280-302 miles range (although don't go above 57-59mph😉).
What really helps is that, unlike almost every other EV, the Megane doesn't affect it's range when the blowers/heaters are on, as the power doesn't come out of the EV batteries. It comes out of the car's normal 12v battery (like it does on a ICE car). Only the AC does.
But don't forget, the Megane is one of the lightest EV's on sale (lighter than a Zoe). Helped by aluminum and Carbon Fibre construction. Only the Mini and Fiat 500 are lighter.
Plus don't care anout rear visability. It has a wide-angle rear view mirror camera....Brilliant!!
Plus Google is fantastic! You cannot beat phone tech! It's the most up-to-date around, constantly updated.
Good fun review of 2 worthy cars. I think that the commentaries were far more entertaining than either of the cars.
Great videos always. And thanks to them away to pick my Mégane to tomorrow, cheers
Flappies. I bloody love Hume. Great video by both of you. Thanks.
Thanks , a super review as usual, it's helped me decide between the 2. Could we have some actual range tests though as no one trust's the Manufacturers claims.
We went to look at the Megane because it boasted a massive boot - in litres - but the shape meant a normal wheelchair wont fit in, although you can get one in an a Zoe upright...
Am I allowed to say, two of my fav manufacturers, Citroën and Renault 😊 if I could, I'd buy both! Nikki and Nicola so good to see you both on a film! Thanks for the stats, feeds and speeds.
Mind blowing, french cars are utter dog 💩
And i have close family from France, but thier cars are terrible
I envy you on that side of the pond: we'll never see either one of them here -like so many of the EVs that you review, most unfortunately. I've had a boot for over 5 years, and prefer the hatch I had for 6 years before that. That's what my next EV will have, for sure. Nikki and Nicola have great rapport!
Like the Germans and their red wines, we keep the best cars in Europe.
Good comparison. Renault is a great brand from my experience renting a car in France. My favourite EV is the MG4 at the moment for people on a budget that don't want a big car. I heard the fast charging is a bit slow but I don't go on road trips that often.
Weird you mention the MG4 the interior of the Megane is actually not much different to the MG4 in terms of passenger space also although the Megane looks bigger - park beside one in an MG4 and the only difference is the Renault is a tad higher and a couple inches thats it. I am hopefully picking my MG4 SE Standard range up next weekend and want to park beside one to see.
MG4 Fast Charging is pretty good -That is what i have heard.
The MG4 is GARBAGE. Tried it and hated it.
The MG5 standard range is a little slow charging but not the long range version. My long range charges at 143kw solid from 3-55% then gradually tampers down. This is regardless of what the SoC you start the session, and I've found no difference rates when testing on a cold battery, still a solid 143kw.
MG isn't British anymore... Chinese, we shouldn't buy those things IMO
Shame the uk version doesn’t get the full size screen in the Megane
Note... 2024 E-C4 X will have more range and more BHP as there is an update across the range on all Stellantis cars. Bearing in mind the best lease on the Megane is £326 for 3 years (8,000 miles) and the E-C4 X is £75/mth cheaper at £251/mth. It is also noticeably bigger than the Megane.
But still less than the e-tech, I guess. Evdatabase says 390 km for the e-tech and 300-320 km for the e-C4(x).
@stefanhaglund1665 Correct totally... but you could have a more powerful Renault or a larger less powerful Citroën. Difference is £80/mth cheaper on leasing for the Citroën..... Yet cheaper per month on a PCP for Renault..!!
Fun review. I haven't watched these presenters before and I can say they were just great.
There is hope to buy an electric car I actually would like to own while Citroen or Renault are still around. Sure Chinese cars are great but they do not have the heritage like 2CV, DS, GS, CX, BX 😋
Big 20 inch wheels are not lovely; they have expensive tyres and harsh ride, and the Megan's back window is tiny.
The Citroen fails on the Dad test because there's no way geriatric me can reach anything at the back of the Citroen boot, short of dropping the back seat. Oh, and there's no electric seat adjustment on the Citroen's comfy seats so I had great difficulty reaching the seat slider mechanism. If comfy seats are the major selling point for this car, those seats should have electric adjustment with at least two memories so Mr and Mrs Geriatric can instantly select their comfiest positions.
Don’t overlook the much better software in the Renault, it’s far from perfect but IMHO a lot better not only because you can install Apps and have the very fast and convenient google navigation. Just don’t understand why you wouldn’t get the bigger screen over there…
I always thought it was illegal to play any kind of video in the front when car is in motion. At very least it should be outside the view of the driver. 🤔
I like the E-C4 hatchback more, but the Renault Megane is better, but probably too expensive.
Citroen not only made comfortable cars, but they made the car that still holds (even now) the best crash avoidance car (Xantia). It may have started out 1993 -2002 , but is still the best in the official tests.
The best crash avoidance car? What does that even mean?
@@sharonec5419 you can swerve round someone who pulls from a side road, or avoid that stuff in your lane on the freeway, autobahn, motorway without...
Rolling over, ripping the tires off, spinning out, smashing into oncoming traffic.
So actually quite important metric
Note that all USA style trucks fail, and only 1 SUV passes, the Tesla model y.
Oh , and the xantia can change lane and back again in the space of about 50 meters doing over 53mph
@@tomooo2637 Awe very good so manovability then.
Thank you.
Easy pick, one is a converted fosil car and the other is pure ev.
What is the range? I have last week new Megan’s iconic when I full charge it’s showing on display 100 % battery 235 mi ?
Mileage range on EV's are not accurate. Go by the Battery percentage. The mileage fluctuates and you can increase it with regen. Mine showed 230, and it ended up doing 280
ME "MAN"...what a pleasure it is to the Ear to learn exactly what knowledge Two gorgeous Ladies add to the Motoring fraternity...the Citroën "Marque" is second to none for comfort...well presented....STAY SAFE...G.A.R.
Like the Renault but honestly, I think i will stick with my Enyaq 😊
The PCP for the Tesla model Y on the same terms is £2 a month more than the Renault. 2.2% APR may have something to do with it. No contest.
Yeah, but Tesla model Y also look like LIQUID 💩
I’d rather not give my money to a far right extremist trying to get a load of dangerous anti-democratic climate change deniers in power.
No contest if you want a car the size of Belgium. The Model Y is SUBSTANTIALLY larger than the Megane.
I drove the Megane at launch but found it small and I hit my head on the roof line every time getting in and out. By accident I was offered an "in stock" E-C4 Shine Plus. On lease just £265/mth... OK, less BHP but not massively noticeable when driving day to day. Only small negative on the Citroën, is a little more range would be handy.
It just goes to show how far ahead the Austin allegro was with its quartic steering wheel way back in the 70,s😂
Fun fact: the categories of climb in bike racing (Cat 4, 3, 2, 1, Hors Categorie) are predicated on which gear in a Citroen 2CV you would need to be in to get up them. Lots of stranded 2CVs on the side of the road up the Col du Galibier back in the day, for example. I support bike races & events in my Hyundai Kona EV 2019 model, and Sport mode on Regen level 3 (with paddles!) is ideal for zipping in and out of groups of cyclists against oncoming traffic. I think the Megane would be even better for this. Sorry Citroen.
If the cycling category is true it changes how I watch the tour de (insert your race here) and as a car driving non cyclist give me a better idea of how steep some of the climbs are.👍
Now that really is a fun fact! 👍😄
An el-cid/mehari with an electric conversion - leave it in 2nd and few hills will defeat it!! Come back Citroen! 🤑
The megane pulls 100% power from 42mph upwards. From 0-42 is a gradual increase from 40% to 100% with your foot planted. 220hp and 0-62mph is 7.5secs but in reality, it would be less than 6 sec if it pulled 100% from launch. 40mph - 70mph is very very quick!!
I may have to watch cycling now 😅
Megane looks way better outside and inside
But it is small car opposite Citroën 🙂
Key issue for me is that new cars in Eu and therfore Uk are about to have speed limiters so performance is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Comfort given our roads are full of potholes is a priority over absolute handlly characteristsics. Everyone to their own I guess
Congrats on the pregnancy
No mention of the shallow rear window in the Megane which makes visibility a nightmare.
That’s what cameras are for
Drive one and can confirm visibility from the rear window is very limited.
On mine, the rear view cam only comes on with rear drive engaged
Fake News. There is a camera wich goes very well
I've got one and although rear visibility is certainly not brilliant, you get used to it fairly quickly and it's not a particularly big problem
After driving vans for years, who needs a back window lol. I love my megane and the back window is small and the visibility is completely blocked by the centre headrest anyway!!
You can have a tailgate party with the Citrooen boot
The Megane is beautifully designed and has a very nice interior
But the interior is cramped. There really isn't room for 3 across the back. That narrowness continues to the boot, I suspect there are pushchairs that won't fit flat between the wheel arches. Makes no sense when they share a platform with the Nissan Ariya which is a sensible width
I had a test drive in the Megane which I liked, I have a Zoe (my 2nd) the deal breaker for me is the really bad visabiility out of the rear window.
The Zoe has really good rear vision.
i drive the megane e tech for 3 months now…the rear window visavility is no problem at all…its even better than my other cars before because of the camera. so no deal breaker
@@user-re8jn7iz3f Well I wouldn't buy one , my Skoda Enyaq & My wife's Zoe both have excellent rear view vision & that's the reason I didn't buy a Jaguar iPace, so I don't care what you think!
@@wilkoone9155 i just find it kinda funny when people complain about trivial things. only reason is attention seeking here so i gave you what you want, you‘re welcome.
You two are great! My wife had a Citroen Pluriel and that was a nightmare. Too many breakdowns approaching the Gotthard Tunnel to ever buy a Citroen again! I don't think I'd even trust a Citroen ev. Very impressed with our Renault Zoe so not surprised the Megane E-Tech is good.
Citroen has come a long way since the Pluriel days… I would suggest you give them a second chance.
Where has Tom gone?
The French allways do things differently, also with their "voiture".
I would love to see the OLI come to live.
I have a Megane but the equilibre which has lighter fabic and headliner and 18inch wheels all of which I prefer - it can also tow 750kg unbraked 900kg braked which Citroen can't
Great comparison although I have one issue. There are some massive discounts on the Citroen. A quick look on Autotrader I can get an eC4 X Shine plus brand new for £28k, best I can manage on the Renault E-Tech Techno is just over £35k. While the Renault may be a better car, it's certainly not £7k better.
Hmmm, there is a reason the C4 is being discounted. And it is still just about the same price as an undiscounted MG4. Even at that price, I'd still prefer the MG, even though I have had plenty of Citroens in the past.
I just can't get over all the European brands resisting the demand to going over to dedicated EV architecture, it really is madness. The only market that is definitely going over to non-ICEs, and they are still dragging their heals. The ONLY Euromaker that has produced their own dedicated EV is VW. Unfortunately, the implementation of VW's iD range is not that great, but it is the only EuroEV that has the dynamics. I know that BMW tried it with the i3, but they've now apparently abandoned anything else.
Meanwhile the Chinese companies are churning out dedicated EV architecture as if it was going out of fashion.
I really want to support European manufacturers, but the way they're going at the moment, I see no way that I can justify getting anything other than Chinese.
Having just written that, I realised that the Megane is dedicated architecture. Well done Renault.
@@davidcolin6519ești neinformat... Megane este construit pe o platforma nouă dedicată ev..
. Nu are nimic de a face cu meganul termic. Nu mai dezinforma
@@davidcolin6519 The Chinese brands are being subsidized by the Chinese government and they have much lower profit margins. European brands are forced out of the market by these aggresive moves by the Chinese.
@@drfisheye
@@drfisheye Which is a curious factoid (that means a false "fact" that many believe) that doesn't bear scrutiny. BYD is a private company in China that, AFAIK, receives zero subsidies. Of course, if you know different, why don't you post a link that proves it?
Never understood why you would want to sit in a car with a coffin black roof. Maybe because there is no graveyard grey?
The new Renault design language is producing some very good looking cars. Citroen? Not so much.
I have Citroen eC4X one year, it is nice car but mobile app is stupid 🙂
My choice would be the Citroën eC4X. Much better looking, better comfort and quality.
In which way? The megane is a much better car to look at as well as to drive. Its much quicker, has a longer range and the infotainment itself is second to none! You are wrong.... terribly wrong.
🤣
@@johnmorris6344 the c4x has a lift back design instead of a hatchback? Maybe because I'm eastern european, thats why I prefer sedans.
Both also have only a 3 year warranty unlike anything from South Korea or China.Oh and as Renault cant sell the Megane Etech to anyone but motobility customers you can get one for about £32k on a lease.
Tell me you don't know how leasing works, without telling me you don't know how leasing works.
No sensible minded person is putting £8k deposit down on a PCP for a start
I think the Renault with the 60kWh battery is better. Relative small battery with charging up 130kW, means 20-80% time is minimised. The 280 mile range also means that even in winter you should get => 200 miles at 70mph on the motorway, which is 4 hours driving prefect tine to stop for a recharge and toilet/food break. Then set off again at 80% for another 3 hours driving or 150 miles at 70mph on the motorway, giving a driver's range of 7 hours driving and 350 miles and that's Kent to the Scottish border.
The batteries are better cared for if the charge more slowly - I work on three hours principle. Over the period of ownership, these cars will be no end of trouble, down to the very design of them. French don't make good cars, Germans do.
@@joebloggs6131 The days when you could say that a nation makes good cars are long gone. :)
@@siasek
That's what they said, decades ago!
- There will always be people with the "glass half empty" approach, and those that argue "half empty is still half full"; and that's why, good sir, we'll never really agree on anything.
Anyhow I'm off to drive my German made rocket-ship of a vehicle between point A and point B.
❤❤❤❤❤ love all Citroen
Meganne is great but the “my Renault” app is very bad. They should update it
You had me (switch off) at £38,498. It is a small family car, the price is bonkers! Sorry ladies, however well your pitch your review, it is just no go...
Smart money is to wait on the EV evolution, the best is yet to come!
Buy a car with 120% the size of the battery you'll need, fast charge it 20-80% rapidly, by the time degradation hits you'll be ready to move onto the next vehicle.
Much as I enjoy your content, I despair at the misuse of the indefinite article in your headline. A is for words begining with a consonant. An for those that start with a vowel: A french loaf affair; An affair Francais... (Yes it's pedantic - yes it matters).
Love my Megs
Megane have a better exterior design (wich can last long years...), and a better interior design too.
But can you fit a mason jar full of biscuits in any of those cubbies
flappies. laughed out loud.
the iPad stand on the eC4x.. is there an airbag behind it? isn't that dangerous.. imagine if the airbag exploded with an iPad in front of it.. wouldn' t it be deadly?
This is a good question.
I am pretty sure they have thought of that. And that using the holder is actually safer than just putting it there loose, it won't go flying in an accident.
After all, it's a standard part and manufacturer-provided accessory, so it has to through the paperwork and testing (and that's why the case is so expensive).
I'll say the stand doesn't deploy while the car is moving.
The news really this month is the mad insurance increases in EV’s and mostly Cars.
Citroën design is hideous. Renault did great. So beautiful but I wouldn’t buy none for that price range. Sorry French cars
Spot on. Both hideously overpriced for what it is. Shocker.
Renault Megane E-Tech better I think
Be very careful with the E:C4 and C4X. Like it's E2008 brother, the range is an absolute nightmare. I've been driving a EV for 10 years now and recently had a hire E2008 and my sister has a E:C4.... I can get 240 out of the Megane in the summer, even driving in eco with the air con off, I couldn't get more than 150 miles from the Citroen and 135 from the Pug. I can't tell you why, I've got rather good of getting good range from EV's now, but with those it was a total fail. The E2008 also has hideous mile/kw efficiency too. Not good.
People will actually be able to afford to insure these cars.
Is this what you meant to write?
@@bikeman123 yes. Ask Churchill how much to insure a Model 3 Performance.
Then ask about these cars. That 7+ second 0-60 will save you a lot of money on insurance.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 is more about Elon's big brain genius idea to make the car in 2 big parts (cheaper) so if you have even a medium ''BOOM-BOOM'' they need to replace half you car... hence the lot of money on insurance.
Another big plus for the Renault is the 22kw AC charging. Citroen is starting to look a bit dated....
the back end of the c4x is absolutely hideous. so so ugly. the megane looks great in person. the esprit alpine clio tho? GORGEOUS
I do have a soft spot for Renault, having had two 9’s and an 11 in the past… so it’s the Megané for me… the Citroen is ugly though!
An French love affair? Can you speak English? A French love affair - how does that sound?
Will they spontaneously combust like other EVs and be impossible or expensive to insure.
You read too many extreme right-wing newspapers.
@@bmpowellicio weird not a read a newspaper for ages
Lol. Dave down the pub has entered the building
@@scoopermg8226 your replies take ages, like waiting for a car charge and the end result is pathetic too.
I think you’ve fallen down some conspiracy nonsense rabbit hole.
Front wheel drives, no thanks!
Why does it have to have a ‘comedic’ tone? You’re good presenters, no need to try to be comedians, just inform about the cars.
then go watch some nerds doing reviews. full of data, ZERO fun.
Good afternoon ladies
Citroen seem to be tempting their customers to break the law - having video playing where the driver can watch it is a total no-no.
Am I the only one who finds all the skits cringey? Just review the car please.
I find it embarrassing childish 😮
Just buy a BYD it’s better
Had eC4 for a year now, the range no matter how you drive is 160-180 miles, since 2022 Q4 no matter what pack you get you don't get wireless charging.
The rear spoiler set just above the boot lid ruins your rear view, combined with blind spots that don't really work, 360 cameras don't work below 5 mph, Stellantis group say it isn't an issue.
We will be avoiding Stellantis group vehicles in the future as the service is shocking.
No one in the UK will buy either. The citroen because its a saloon and the renault because for a little more you could have a Tesla.
But Elon Musk is a Russian collaborater so Tesla are finished.
'Heavily pregnant' folk/women advised not to use lap/seat belt....also avoid airbags..(realise this is an old-ish video...but still, anyone else in a similar position..please be extra careful ) ..maybe travel in back seat and use loads of cushions I guess?.....use a chauffeur(all identities..)/taxi/NHS transport when necessary, ultimately, don't drive?! (I love these vids and I'm a gear-head unsurprisingly and I'm very happy baby born and everyone is doing well! )🤓🙄😊bla, bla bla etc!! (IMHO....my opinion.....upto you how you decipher/interpret this subject!..)
One of the most ridiculous and dangerous comments I’ve seen.
@@bordersw1239 you should get out more/read more/open your eyes and ears - the stats don't lie..
(that's NHS 'advice' ....clapping optional)
An french loaf....?
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Baguette 😒
The Renault looks great❤
Citroen would be towards the bottom of my liat. Megane would be towards the higher end. No comparison
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Citroen 2CV 😂
Should have named it ? The Citroen Sciatica 🤪😂😂😂😂😂
Quite literally the worst 2 presenters on the channel together!! Bring back Tom
In my opinion, the cost of these cars, coupled with a shockingly poor charging network (UK) means that an ICE is still more logical. Now that it appears that we haven't got the 2030 hard stop, I just can't see me ever buying an EV, not at least until ownership is more practical and the initial cost isn't too high. I like the content you produce but I await, with interest, the day that an EV is a truly logical option.
That's an opinion straight from the pages of the Daily Mail. Have you actually tried an EV and the charging network? My guess would be a solid no.
That "2030 hard stop" is just a misnomer, typical government spin. It was always 2035 anyway. In 2030, ICE could still be purchased until 2035 as long as it had some form of hybrid function - mild, full, or plug in. All that has changed is that the hybrid deadline has been removed; the full deadline for 100% EV remains at 2035 as it always has.
Do you actually own a car?
Why did you watch this video? That's the question....
@bernardhilton3527 I see the art of debate us still strong.
I gave you the thumbs down for two reasons 1st I am a Vegan second both cars are overpriced and boring Thank you.
How nice for you!
So pleased to hear about your happy bum!!!!!