ModRetro Chromatic -- The Best Game Boy EVER?!
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The ModRetro Chromatic handheld was announced for Game Boy and Game Boy Color games. We discuss how it looks to us and what the issues could be.
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How do you think the Chromatic looks to you? Are you interested? Does the Analogue Pocket already satisfy the Game Boy itch to you? Let me know what you think!
Man gotta love when a company responds to legitimate criticism with “dumb question bro” always a great sign of a quality brand. Especially for one with no track record
They should be embarrassed responding that way. Way to tell the public that you have a bunch of teenage "dude bros" running your company.
Yep. Even if the Chromatic and ModRetro's other products wind up being close to perfect, that type of thing makes me worry a LOT about how bad things could be if anyone had to contact ModRetro's customer support.
That issue aside, that type of response would have gotten someone reprimanded (maybe even fired) in any other industry. ModRetro just shrugging it off is pretty alarming.
Saying "bro" makes me think they are a 12 year old writing a CZcams comment.
That and their sassy attitude just shows they are milking senior citizens with Game Boy nostalgia.
PS: I was 9 when the game boy released, but I don't have any nostalgia for it. The screen was crap.
Senior citizens love the Game Boy, and are spending all their social security checks on terrible ideas like this.
The Game Boy supports elder abuse and so do these retro poison projects.
it wasn't legitimate criticism. The guy accused Modretro of planned obsolescence, which was ludicrous.
Not only is the Analogue a thing, the SPs are still super reliable and easy to get.
$200! That’s insane. At that point you might as well get an Analogue. Funny Boy GBC seems like the best value option, or just by an Anbernic for even less. The non-plus RG35XX is like $40.
They don't have pixel accurate screens & colors though, so don't get them for accurate GB & GBC experience. Also they're made of plastic.
@@RogerEssigArtist _"Accurate"_ is subjective here. 🤨 Even a Analogue Pocket (which I own) is not accurate - the only thing 'accurate' is the original systems with the original plastic bodies, abs buttons, and those old screens. If you are not playing on those, then I don't want to hear anything about "accuracy" - who care's if some chooses a Anbernic, Modded GB/A, or Analogue Pocket? Regardless, they are great ways to experience the same games.
This isn't 2014: The emulation on the modern Anbernic (software) device, and FPGA solutions like Analogue pocket (hardware) of the games themselves is very 'accurate' to how they play on real hardware. The screen is what makes all the difference, and the fact is that every one of them is a upgrade over the original ones in terms of color and brightness.
It seems to me that these newer devices are not trying to be 'accurate', but rather 'faithful' in spirit while IMPROVING certain facets.... something you cannot do AND be completely "accurate". You either want the original experience, or something better. So people should buy whatever you can afford and like the form-factor and screen of... and stop listening to elitists' moonlogic. No one cares. 🤦♂
@@mr.selfimprovement3241 seeing the pixel art on custom screens is going to be glorious, the videos of it look amazing and there will only be a limted amount of people on the planet that'll get to experience it.
I’m glad to finally hear this take, because all of the discussion I’ve seen on CZcams about it seems oblivious to the Analogue Pocket’s existence.
I have both a Pocket and an IPS-modded GBC, and honestly, I prefer the modded GBC. The Pocket is a bit heavy, I don't much care for the 4-button layout, and I swear there's noticeable input lag on original Gameboy games. Plus it struggles reading my original carts where the modded GBC never has an issue.
Same. I have a modded GBC and a modded GBA SP. Way more expensive to buy both of those than it was to buy my Pocket, but I find myself playing them way more often. The GBC just feels nicer to hold and I appreciate the fact that I can just put my SP into a pocket or bag without having to worry about adding extra protection to it.
Surprised that people are so defensive of this product in the comments. Yeah, it's a premium product, and it will probably sell decently well because at the end of the day it's just a Game Boy Color, but I had pretty much the exact same thoughts as Ian when I first heard it announced. It absolutely does not need to exist and does not offer anything new compared to what is already available on the market.
Palmer is the guy who bought the Super NES PlayStation prototype.
He also has a mullet. A terrible mullet. He should invest in a chin.
I'd love to see a small, cheap portable like this with a cheap, basic & open FPGA chip for homebrew development for less than 100. A LOT or ppl would love that! Something just powerful enough to handle most anything up to GBA.
Look up the FPGBC - Funny Playing GameBoy Color. (The company name is Funny Playing)
Basically just what you asked for 🙂
I love Ian’s analysis of things. And his presentation style of what he’s learned. I could listen to him explain the most boring of concepts and I’d still be interested.
Hasn't the FunnyPlaying FPGA GBC already done this much cheaper.
I love you Pat and Ian. You guys are so real. Thank you both so much for all of who you are.
Analogues shipping isn't '$20 flat' on the east-coast - or so it wasn't for me when I ordered the pocket last year, Mega SG years ago and Super NT years before that. Frickin' Analogue typically has charged me between $40-$50 shipping every-time I've ordered from them (just for the standard shipping). I think I paid almost $300 for the Analogue Pocket after shipping and taxes (my state has their own internet tax too).
Ian Looks good with the new cut, shave his beard off now and he will look 10 years younger!
$312.75 CAD incl. Tax.
That's hilariously over priced.
Don’t buy it then, no one is pointing a gun at you.
Palmer Luckey sounds like an NXT wrestler
I would TOTALLY buy one, if I didn’t have an Analogue Pocket. Actually, no I wouldn’t.
100% loll
Should've just made a GBA clone. Analog hasn't done that yet. Could've got a few sales that way.
In b4 he cites this video as an attack on him... Even tho it's just realistic criticism.
By his own admission this is not about making money for himself. Screams fundraiser for Biff. Nobody in this community actually refers to high-quality console recreations as heirlooms. That word has some serious slime on it in this context.
I grew up with the Game Boy Color and I have very fond memories about it, and I own an AGB-101. I literally don’t know any GBC fans that are willing to not have access to Game Boy Advance.
I could see people being more into this if it were cheaper perhaps.
Analogue Pocket is still $220 and out of stock.
It's supposed to be released in December , even if I wanted one , there's no way that I'd pre-order it .
A lot of people dobt seem to realize that FPGA is still emulation, but instead of software emulation it is hardware emulation. Also what can this do that the analogue pocket can't do? Like Eisenhower first brought to the countries attention at the end of his 2nd term, defense contractors are typically the scum of the earth
Donald Trump has called out & criticized the 'Military Industrial Complex' more than any President in history.
No GD way Paul is doing it pro bono 😒
Not sure where Ian is going with his line of reasoning. It has every reason to exist as the Analogue Pocket and other devices. I would love to see how it compares to the Pocket and Taki's upcoming MiSTer handheld.
However, the producer of the product looks like a person who loves to cause trouble and flaunt his wealth.
I'm getting Iron Man 1 Tony Stark vibes from this dude.
Why not just get an actual gameboy ?
Na it has no reason to exist, it's a waste of a device imo especially for the price
Considering this is a rich person's hobby horse, he should be able to sell the consoles at a loss. $200 is too much.
My favorite Gameboy is my Powkiddy. Perfect little handheld based off a fantastic portable chassis.
When I started this video my first thought was "how long until Ian complains about Palmer Lucky's politics?"
This is nothing more than a vanity project.
Looking at that screen feels like I'm reading Nintendo Power again in 2000.
Ian is not into Palmer in part due to his involvement with a defence business. Ian is not aware that NEC, Motorola, Martian Marietta/SEGA, have heavy involvement as defence suppliers. Don’t get me started about the whole world of 3D graphics and simulators (flight etc,) having their genesis in defence. As a media, video games are one of the most tightly intertwined with military industrial complex 😊
I don't understand how people are so hard to please.
You want a re-release near replica of a GameBoy Color with actual craftsmanship? Great.
Simple. Choose if you want Analogue Pocket or this, they don't own the damn market. A real screen or a high resolution one that can simulate the originals. A retro aesthetic or a modern one.
I'm not even halfway through, it really isn't hard to understand. . I don't even have the free money at the moment for an FPGBC, but this interests me.
drops like this...why i love this show
All that attention to detail, and no speaker--kinda missing part of the original experience, in my opinion. I bought new shells, buttons, and screen mods for my GBC and GBA, and I think that's the best option for vintage game enthusiasts. EDIT: apparently there is a speaker on the bottom, not the front.
There’s no speaker??
@@johnmickey5017 i didnt see any in the video, but apparently if you check the website there's little speaker on the bottom side of the unit. also has usb video out, wait where would you plug that?
Can u use everdrives in this?
Yes
There's literally a Logan Paul edition of the Chromatic, there's nothing nefarious going on here. I'm sure he's getting paid.
There IS a world for this... if the price is Sub 100 and has an open FPGA for Homebrew development. Lots of ppl would love that!
If it's expensive & NOT open, then no. It will fail. Or it at least won't have widespread appeal.
$277 CAD vs. $299 CAD for the Analogue Pocket.
I would very much like to purchase a Chromatic. My only problem is that it doesn't support Game Boy Advance games.
Ian seemed way more motivated when advertising Tools to shave your balls
It's almost like they get paid to do it.
Analogue Pocket.
Not totally related but i finally found my long lost copy of kirby star stacker while listening to this!!
My GBC with the new OLED screen mod is the best GBC ever🤓 I don’t see the value when original systems and mods are plentiful, near plug-and-play, and pretty cheap altogether
Making something limited like this expensive with Aluminum materials is just bad design choices.
There's not much to say until someone can try it out in person
I love you pat and Ian thank you for all of who you are
I was like “that’s anodized aluminum, no way!” But it’s some kind of magnesium alloy? What an odd choice - are there other magnesium case devices out there I’m not aware of?
I think these are very cool but Ian is right, the pocket is a better value
I hope we see another intellivion saga with this. 😅
I feel like if it had been the original gba form factor and played gb/gbc/gba with decent buttons then maybe this would fill a gap in the market not satisfied by the Analogue. As it is I can’t see anyone buying it apart from the maniacs on the Analogue Pocket subreddit who buy multiple pockets in different colours.
I’d rather have a pocket tbh.
I was at this event and talked to the dev. I asked him this same question. Why should I buy this when I have an Analogue Pocket. He said because the screen is pixel perfect and they will eventually go open source but didn’t say when. I asked if I can buy just their new Tetris and he said no. I told him who is this for because it isn’t for me.
The Pocket is perfect.
Did they ever talk about ReviewTechUsa going away?
I have a modded GBC. Got it for a little over $100. I'm pretty sure its exactly what this guy is offering? If you want exactly like the original, why not just go for the original?
I'll go buy a used Gameboy color, before I go blow 200+ on a FPGA that has limited itself to be a Gameboy color...
try playing a GBC without perfect lighting conditions.
Why magnesium? Isn't that highly flammable? I get that it's light weight, but why not aluminum?
I believe magnesium is highly reactive with water? Could look it up, but if that's the case....
Analogue Pocket is way better for about the same price.
way better at being inferior in multiple ways.
@@RogerEssigArtist lmao
@@MrAdam802 Chromatic doesn't have Analogue's 'corner issue', literally plastic chunks breaking off. Chromatic has a way better screen. need I go on?
@@RogerEssigArtist ^We found Lucky Palmer's alt lol
@@MrAdam802 'we'? Are you one of those 'they/thems?
Longer battery life but it uses disposable batteries like the original GBC.
There's one big problem with this product, and that's the existence of the Funny Playing FPGBC
You guys rock
Id be interested if it was a little cheaper.
Maybe it’s silly but I’m with Ian on it being Palmer Lucky. It’s not even just his politics, him being a defense contractor is new to me so I’m not a fan of that or him for that. His behavior is so childish it’s off putting. If he wasn’t The Guy and spreading lies about his competition I would probably buy it, and this is coming from someone who has an AP and loves it. I’m a massive handheld enthusiast, Game Boy and Color especially. Any way on improving the experience of playing Game Boy I’ll always be interested, and if I have the money I would purchase. But, his antics as I mentioned earlier are sooooo fucking gross. He needs to grow up. He’s an adult man who runs businesses, he needs to act like it if he wants to be the salesman.
Third, the one w the hair chest. Daaaaamn
If all this does is play GameBoy and GameBoy Colour games, why don’t I just get a modded original system? Better screen? Back light? Rechargeable battery? It sounds good but I’m sure an original system costs half the price even with mods. Heck my original GameBoy colour works perfectly fine with a great battery life. Maybe I just don’t see the need for a system like this that doesn’t hook up to a modern TV in any way. This might be a cool alternative if prices compared to original hardware were competitive
For me it just might be cheaper to buy a cheap lamp
I could care less what someone's "political" views are when it comes to a product. However, Palmer does seem like the type of guy that would just say (as y'all stated),...."I don't wanna mess with this thing anymore."...and drop support.
Looks pretty cool but i got like 1000 gameboy like emulators
I don't think it's a stretch to say the consoles should probably be sold at a loss, given that the founder has a fortune to spend on. The current price is too much.
Morally can't support a company who's making money off of defense contracts.
You have a short list of companies you can use then.
How’s that iPhone in your pocket doing?
Well you better stop using CZcams. Google has plenty of them
Might want to stop using CZcams then, because Google inc is a subsidiary of the Alphabet company - which every day collects data which is given to the police, CIA, homeland security and ultimately the military (some of it, has been used to track military targets). Unfortunately almost every product you buy (or use) is a result of exploiting labor, tax laws, skirting regulations, taking advantage of the third-world, harming animals, unethical data collection, producing pollution, or bribery to regulators of governments... the only ethical company is one which does not exist - because companies exist purely to make more and more profit.
You watching videos on CZcams supports a company that makes money off defense contracts.
Wwe
Where if you ain't SAMOAN you already reached the glass ceiling!
I don't really like after market hardware. But If I had to choose between the two I wouldn't even consider this. For 20$ more you get a replacement for all your retro portables.
Can it play NES, famicom and/or gameboy advance cartridges in addition to gameboy and gameboy color carts?
I thought this thing looked cool, but way overpriced to me. Why would I buy this when I could buy an Analogue Pocket for only $20 more?
this was not a good idea.. when you have a beast like the analogue pocket out there... Gg 🤣 ohhh and anbernics
My last comment was deleted because I was a bit too unfiltered about the horrible human being lucky Palmer is. Do your research ladies and gents.
sounds like you didn't
I hope Nintendo sues them for the design. That guy's soul patch must go, and his mullet.
Sht politics? Did u see debate
This thing will DEFINITELY lose money, no question about it. I can almost guarantee it.
But will we see it, you think ? Like it will be like the Amico, or will it come out ? I actually want one, tbh but i think it's important to listen to criticism. Might change my mind
@@jennid8123 It'll definitely come out. They've spent enough money promoting it lmao. It won't be making money, though.
You can get a fpga gb/gbc kit for less than a hundred bucks id get that if i didn't already have a analogue pocket
Honestly this seems custom made for me. I have a modded gba that is my main driver for GB and GBC games. Been holding off on the analogue pocket because it feels overpriced for it's build quality. And the way the product is spread out between like 8 addons bothers me. I have Been eyeing the Funnyplaying FPGA Gameboy kit. But heard there issues with their cores and you have to assemble it yourself which I lack patience to do.
To me Palmer Lucky has a proven track record if releasing hardware to the market and running companies. I wouldn't call myself a fan boy but having his name attached is no cause of concern. I'd rather gamble on the Chromatic over the Funnyplaying FPGA kit.
This fit the exact niche of a product I am looking for. I just want the best possible product to play game boy games. I would have preferred a slightly larger screen like the analogue pocket but I do like that it comes with an inbuilt video out port. The price is very reasonable even compared if you go for a modded Gameboy color of similar quality.
If I wanted a device to play a variety of games. I'd just buy a controller to use with my cellphone and run some emulators. The only reason to buy products like this is to get the BEST possible experience. Though I agree the focus on correctly saturated pixels seems a bit silly and is a solved issue with any mod kits you can buy for your original GBC. I will do my homework before pulling the trigger but it seems interesting. Especially with the extra games as they seem cool but I've been let down before with indie GB games.
I bought my first GBC a couple of weeks ago and will be playing it until my Chromatic arrives. I want to experience that jump in quality.
The 9 people who buy this might enjoy it 🤑😅
lol
I didn't realize palmer lucky is behind this: major turnoff. Also I get wanting accuracy insofar as the fact that emulators introduce graphical glitches/corruption and sound errors that you may not be able to fix or have to fix with very specific settings in endless menus. Its especially present in PS1 and N64 games. FPGA's accuracy means you bypass a lot of those problems and don't have the psychological affect of wondering if you have the perfect configuration among hundreds of settings. But at a certain point I find the hyper obsession with getting every tiny micro detail 100% accurate to be the realm of irritating nerd pedantry; its just "um actually-ing" by people who care less about the art and games themselves and more about the console. "Um actually the GBC's color was like this, um actually the gameboy had a pixel structure like this."
The analog pocket just has an ultra high quality screen, its so good that the colors look a bit better to me than the switch oled when comparing the same game. The only thing worse on the AP is it isn't oled so it lacks that perfect pitch black (which looks so great in pixel art games, especially schmups like NES Gradius with space backgrounds or nightime backgrounds in castlevania). The Analog Pocket, Vita, and Switch OLED also all have this presence to the pixels where everything just looks great and never muddied togather. Sometimes things almost look like they're popping off the screen like its a stereoscopic display, its not an effect I get with emulators on an oled iphone oddly where everything is more muddy despite the oled. I want that high quality, honest display of the game as it really is more than something that perfectly recreates the physical properties of a original GBC screen or whatever: I play games, not consoles.
AP ist so expensive and never available, I prefer gaming on Steam Deck and alternative on an OLED modded GBC or my Retroid Pocket 2s.
But regarding Chromatic: if the guy is a billionaire, then why does he insist on prepayment for the pre-order? That's always suspicious.
He just wanted to make the best possible version of the original Gameboy Color, which was his favorite childhood system. He’s not trying to upgrade the experience, he’s trying to recreate the nostalgia of it all. Palmer doesn’t care if it makes money. If I had billions to play with, I would absolutely want to create a perfect FPGA NES/Super Nintendo combo player that looks awesome with the most random expensive details I could find
All criticisms aside, Palmer's mullet with lines is pretty awesome.
This game boy is amazing !!! And a great deal for the quality and price point
Great video. Looks interesting! Does anyone else still play the Super Game Boy?
The best Gameboy is still the Gameboy. The endless ocean of 3rd party devices is exhausting at this point. Just take an OG unit and install a proper backlit, bi-verted screen and enjoy.
Just buy a GBC and never mod it. Then just buy a Chromatic. Then just play with both at different times.
@@RogerEssigArtist But if one has a GBC there is no need for a Chromatic.
The Analogue Pocket is great, it does not need a replacement unless you plan on charging half as much. But seeing as Palmer is so rich, why not just give them out for free to anyone who wants one.
Yeah since money isn’t an option he should’ve put them out for $150 max. $200 for two games, or maybe give them away for free to school kids and give them classes on GBStudio and design or something.
It would make ZERO sense to not buy a Modded Gameboy Color over this. I really don't see the appeal at all. He should have made this open and CHEAP in order to compete.
I mean it does look slick. People bought the nt mini when it was super expensive. Money has different meaning to people
the screen & build quality is the appeal.
@paintsius The Pocket also does a LOT more than this does tho, so it isn't exactly a fair comparison & that's the whole point.
@@paintsius yep. People buy high end watches that aren't plastic. I think the chromatic will rise in value over the decades.
Pat The Mid Punk
I can't purchase from someone who decides that mid 90's NHL player is the look they wanted to go for.
I love how you are just looking for reasons to hate on it. It’s just a recreation of the gameboy. It’s not supposed to be a replacement for the pocket. You obviously hate it cos it’s Palmer lucky who made it.
Not really, there are just so many alternatives of this played out idea. All this adds is what a retro screen? Lmao they should of just made it really cheap as the selling point.
It sounded more like moderate skepticism than hate to me. They both had one or two good points to say about it. It just sounds overpriced, and it's being promoted by a slightly weird dude
It's really just a dumb product, and they talk about dumb video game products all the time. Why are you getting offended on behalf of someone you'll never know? It's kind of bizarre.
Fun fact Palmer Lucky's sister married Republican Matt Gaetz. From everything else i've heard about Palmer he is kind of an ahole. Shame because I was hoping this would be really good
Analogue Pocket is better anyway
JC!!! Ian can be really F-ing annoying sometimes
You saying he has shit politics means you have shit politics.
Beat me to it. Ian’s just salty because Biden thinks he “beat Medicare”. 🤣
This whole discussion is so off base. Complaining that the Chromatic isn’t gonna be able to do Turbografx games on its screen is absurd. It’s a Game Boy, that’s what it does. It doesn’t need to do anything else. I have an Analogue Pocket and it does everything and plays every console you could want while also being ergonomically bad and not very fun to play on. I usually leave it docked for that reason. The Chromatic is offering up a really neat way to play Game Boy games that I bet will be a better experience than a Pocket. You guys are being pretty uncharitable and it seems like you have a bone to pick with Palmer more so the product.
I think the Chromatic would fare better reception if it was $200 while including an extra game or just $140 for the console+pack in.
@@otterdonnelly9959 I don’t see how $200 is an unfair price. Nintendo themselves would probably charge around that for a new officially licensed Game Boy. The Chromatic has a magnesium alloy shell and PBT buttons, a scratch proof lens and a screen engineered from the ground up for it, not just a BlackBerry screen from China. The components are better than anything else on the market and the price reflects that. People can make comparisons to the FPGAGBC or Anbernic-type devices but this thing beats the pants off those.
This channel as dead as Joe Biden
I watch this podcast for escapism. Not politics
You must be new to the channel. They talk about politics all the time. I guess you need to find a new podcast?
@@animalhouse8849 I've been watching for years, and had the pleasure of seeing them live twice at prge. They have increased political talk to the point where I canceled my (small) patreon.
These guys really hate eachother huh? The semi poser marketing expert and the disgruntled angry video game store clerk who dabbles in music.