Monitor Audio Bronze 100 6G Bookshelf Speaker Review. Best for dialogue clarity at any price.
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- Reviewed Today: Monitor Audio Bronze 100 6G Bookeshelf Speakers
www.monitoraudio.com/en/produ...
Preamp & Power Amplifier & Integrated amps used:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblock: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
IotaVX SA-3: www.iotaenterprises.co.uk/pro...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i
www.crutchfield.com/p_813NODE...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One and Oyaide PA02-TR
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
www.oyaide.com/ENGLISH/AUDIO/p...
Speaker Cables: Maze Audio REF4 or Eden Series
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
Subwoofers Used (individually):
REL HT1205: rel.net/shop/powered-subwoofe...
Rythmik F12SE: www.rythmikaudio.com/F12SE.html
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:
fantastic review. great to see you are getting more into speakers....not only subs. very articulate and to the point review! thanks!
Thank you! So this isn't really a typical review channel, it's more just to catalog my journey and share the experience, right now I'm really curious about subwoofers so there will be a few more subwoofer videos coming. Since I buy most of the gear with my own money I just review what I'm interested in at the moment. Right now it's mostly subwoofers :D
Thank you. Appreciate your "non-abstract" kind of review, easy to understand .
Hi Dave, glad you found it helpful :)
Always interesting man you shouldn't apologize. Thanks for your time 🙂
I would love to hear your review of the MA Gold 100. They should send you some
Thank's David! I doubt they will, I didn't really like these too much so I'm not sure I will like the Gold's either, if these were $400 it would make a lot more sense but at $600 it's just too much.
Another excellent well thought out review Nima! No BS, as usual. I hope more and more people come to find your reviews as helpful and entertaining as I do - Kent
Oooo you're being stealthy like a Ninja :D. Thank you for the kind words friend!
I'm waiting for these in white to arrive. I'm gonna pair them with a Yamaha subwoofer a Denion CD player and an Onkyo amp. 100% for listening vynil CDs and cassette tapes. I'm on a budget and live in an apartment. No time or money for room treatment. Great review.
I really like your reviews. A definitive sub from me!
Thank you dude! I appreciate you!
Spot on review !
It really depends on what you like, I like a bit of brightness and they deliver pretty good performance. Really happy with my purchase
I agree.. The Bronze 100 replaced my Elac's and I almost always listen to music.
Nice review, I always appreciate your honesty and personal opinion, too many dudes buffer the truth too much to sound like they are playing both sides lol
Thank you Rob! I don't have a horse in the race so no reason to hold back right? I initially felt like I could have been more blunt on this vid but based on the comments it looks like everyone got it pretty clearly :D
Another great explanation of a speaker's sound - nice vid!
Thank's Seoul! Always cool to see an OG subscriber in the comments!
Υou are becoming my top audio reviewer. This is really a no BS review. I just watched the review from another CZcamsr... Apparently it is one of the best speakers under 1000 dollars...
Thank's Jay! I'm really shocked to hear someone would say that. That's seriously insane, this is a $400 speaker on a good day at best. Many speakers are better than this under $1000 like the Focal Chora 806, Revel M16, Elac DBR62, Dynaudio M10 & M20, PSB Imagine Mini, hell even the $229 Emotiva B1+ would give this thing a serious fight. The Bronze 100 does a few things really well like imaging and soundstage but the presentation within is terribly unbalanced. It's like having a car that might have a lot of horsepower but the damn thing can't drive straight and has crappy brakes. 1 or 2 Positive things about a product doesn't always outweigh the negatives. Most things have some redeeming qualities but in this situation it's just not redeeming enough.
Why couldn't it be, What a weird statement!
@@intenttoinjure Sorry my bro I'm not sure what you're referring to, can you clarify?
I have MA BX2 since 2015 connected to Marantz PM6005 with Audioquest speaker cables.Now I’m listening Tidal/Audirvana Hifi streaming from MacBook Pro using audioquest forest optical cable. I’m satisfied. Speakers are stand mounted. I can also connect my Sennheiser Drop HD 58X Jubilee to the amp. Really good sound. My set up costs less than $1,500/-. That’s because I had to pay $120 for shipping and customs for my headphones
that's awesome, I bet it sounds fantastic!! It's such a great time to love music, the more affordable gear has really gotten good.
I remember buying these when i first setup my home theatre. I had sent them back after a couple of months after a trade-in deal. Despite its size it has terrible low extension and the tweeters would pierce a hole in my head they were that bright.
Yeah, I feel like for the size they could have had more bass and the treble is a little dry.
I really miss a review of the Kefs Q350! You reviewed pretty much everything under $1000 bookshelfs from the most known brands. Even the Q150s!
Great video.... I had the MA BX2 bronze and they sounded the exact same way that you described! They had to be moved on!!!!
God bless, I'm still trying to understand who loves these, I honestly think it might be good for guys who have been to too many concerts and maybe lost a bit of hearing. I could really see a speaker like this being appealing to that crowd as to them it will sound more balanced.
@@NemoPropaganda - in this price range, which one do you recomend, Elac Debut Ref. DBR6 will be good choice ? or you think in this price is something better ?
@@PeterMacPL I actually recommend the Bronze 100 for the EU price all day, or if you can find it in the US for like $450 (ebay) it's fantastic!! The Elac is great too, just different.
Thanks for the great review! Since you said these would be great in a home theater, any thoughts on the matching center for these? It seems to be different, for example, there's no port.
these have such a good center image I suggest you save your money and try them without a center first. I used them upstairs for weeks in 2.0 theater and it was the best sounding 2.0 theater I've ever had in that room with the clearest voices imaginable. I ended up selling the speakers to an older gentleman who was having a hard time hearing voices on his older speakers and he was blown away by the dialogue clarity also. So I will say center channel is optional :)
***Corrections & Clarifications***
-When I said they sounded like a Class D amp, just to be clear I meant a cheap one.
-When I said these were bright and sharp I really meant it guys, they're shouty for sure.
-I think a fair price for these is closer to $400 for a music only system.
Sorry I didn't say any of this in the video guys, I took 19 takes due to mic issues and the last cut seemed to be a bit softer than I had initially intended.
$400? Have you seen other Audio Monitor speaker prices? Let those tweeters properly break-in and feed them with some solid core speaker cables and I think you'll get a completely different result except for the imaging part.
Home theater all the way.
@@Cartier_specialist If you don't believe me buy them for yourself and experience the disappointment first hand. I believe in break in but no amount of break-in can fix these. I had them connected to $7500 worth of what is otherwise smooth/neutral sounding gear and another few hundred dollars in room treatment. I gave these 30 hours, that should have gotten them most of the way there.
If a brands most entry level product needs a specific type of speaker cable to sound good that makes it a bad design and the cable at that point is fixing a problem which I find absolutely unacceptable.
@@intenttoinjure Noooooooo! 2.2 channel stereo all the way!!! I will bear knuckle box you bro!
It s taxes that buffed the price in US.
Here in the E.U they cost new 220euros/250usd at a good dealer.
I have the predecesors, bronze2 and they drive me mad now with the sharp top end.
Excellent review and comparison!What about wharfedale diamond 12.2 vs elac dbr 62?You are the only reviewer that said these speakers are a little on the bright side.Thank you for this.Looking for a clear dialogue speaker with strong bass but not bright sounding (headache in 10 minutes).I do not do well with metal dome tweeters!
glad you enjoyed it :)
I reviewed the dbr62 already, loved it.
I've tested the Monitor Audio Bronze 50 in room and it's HARSH sounding. Go for the Wharfedale EVO 4.1 or Wharfedale Diamond series.
@@xavdeman Thanks for the respond!
@@xavdeman Wharfedale EVO 4.1 good/deep bass?
GREAT REVIEW!! I'm looking for the Silver 100, apparently they have better top end than these ones.
Meh... I'm not convinced... Make sure you can return them just in case...
Bronze 100 can go very very loud, the problem is that they not very musical speakers, they dull! Silver 100 will be more lively to begin with, top end could be same or better, more likely better since double the price literally. Bronze 100 can go very very loud they can handle big power. But they not musical speaker
Pretty good review 👍🏽 would of liked to know what type of music you used. Is the Silver series next?
Oh no, I don't want to hear any of their other gear at this point honestly. Way to bright for my taste. I listened to just about everything from Madonna to EDM, to Rock, to Death Metal, and some rap music too!
@@NemoPropaganda could do a video on your go to tracks?
@@StellarAudyssey I probably won't make a video on it anytime soon but here are a few: Madonna: Cherish, Like a Prayer, La Isla Bonita, and Crazy For You all from Celebrations album. Different Heaven: Alquimia. Ephixa: Awesome To The Max. Young Jeezy: Put On. Goo Goo Dolls: Name. Marshmello: One Thing Right. I have very diverse taste in music.
@@NemoPropaganda cheers man. I'll check em out.
I saw Andrew Robinson's review on these, and his wife loved these, a "Fun" speaker is what Kristi said. The first impression I had from their review, was HT, and that is where I want to use these. Vocals in movies is where I heard these shine, and that is what I am looking for. I figure a Class D and a Schiit Loki EQ, and these could really shine in a HT setup. These should match up nicely with a pair of SVS SB-3000 subs at the proper crossover.
These speakers without a doubt have the best dialogue clarity I have ever heard out of a stereo pair of speakers. If that's what you're looking for look no further, these are the ones.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you sir, that is exactly what I am looking for.
@@NemoPropaganda Well, I ordered a pair of the MA Silver 100 and the MA Silver C350 center channel. They have the gen 6 on closeout, got them 1/2 off... They will be here next week. Looking forward to throw these in to the HT setup, not so much for music... I have the SVS Ultra bookshelf, thinking of doing the GR Research upgrade to those, along with purchasing the XLS speaker kit. May pick up a set of those monster Magnat Transpul speakers... I don't know if I have the room though... LOL! But I want them! Thanks again Nemo.
@@michaelwright1602 nice! a good deal always makes things better :)
@@NemoPropaganda Yes it does... I cannot believe what they are asking for these new G7 models, $1400 for a pair of Silver 100's? Seems a bit rich to me, I am sure they are good, but not that good.
Great video! Off topic but have you had a chance to try out rsl speedwoofer? I'm interested in their subwoofer and in ceiling speakers.
Not yet, I should be getting a speedwoofer in a month or two, they keep selling out lol!
Thank you for providing super detailed reviews in a fun way, which can be easily understood by Non-audiophiles like myself.
Quick question: What do you recommend between Monitor Bronze 100 and Q Acoustics 3030i for 70% Music (Mostly classic rock, Indian instrumental and Jazz on Vinyl with Audio Technica LP120 turntable, and some pop and EDM on streaming with WiiM Mini) and 30% Movies(4K smart tv) played through Marantz pm6007 amplifier? I do enjoy bass as long as it doesn't result in fatigue after listening for an hour or two. The room size is 15ft by 15ft.
Alternatively, do you have a different setup recommendation for my requirement, within a similar price point ?
Thanks in advance.
Have you seen my Heco Aurora 300 video? That would be my first suggestion. If you have a little more budget the Dynaduio Emit 10 (newest version) that I also reviewed would be my next suggestion. Hope that helps.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you..I will check em out.
Thanks for your video. Just match this speaker with an amplifier that has a bit of a warm tone to achieve an unimaginable result.
Peace
That's good advice!
Thanks for the heads up on the sound signature. I checked out another review of this speaker and if I correctly recall what the reviewer said, the Bronze 100 soundstage is similar in performance to the Focal Chora. Did you also find the soundstage to be similar?
I like Andrew Robinson a lot but I strongly disliked that comment and felt it was lacking a lot of context. While perhaps the size of the soundstage is similar it's meaningless because the speakers are wildly different in regards to what they do in that soundstage. It's like if two girls are the same height, it means nothing, one could be very beautiful while the other might be very ugly, one girl might be very nice and the other girl might be really rude, etc... The only way the Bronze 100 reminded me of the Focal Chora 806 is I did think to myself at one point the Bronze 100 sounded like if the guy that made the Chora was drunk this is what he would have come up with and the next morning he would have scrapped the design and started over. Sorry for the long response, I really had some feelings about that comment lol
@@NemoPropaganda It's a good response Nemo. Ya, I think the history of reviews on the M.A. Bronze series over the years is the tweeter is bright and the woofer gets low. I am speculating that the tweeter got brighter and the woofer got lower in this current edition. I think you deserve an Edward R. Murrow award for this review :)
@@Audioloon ahahaha thank you my bro 🙏🏻
Thanks for the review! I was just thinking of doing my first home theater setup with MA Bronze 6G! But because of the size I was thinking more about Bronze 50 model. Any advice about AV receiver brand that would fit the best with these? Marantz?
Cheers
I really don’t know that much about AV receivers unfortunately. But if you’re going to buy the smaller 50 model honestly brother I would think about buying something else entirely. The bass is the most impressive part about the speakers as the rest of the presentation was very average. But try to listen to them first maybe they will be good for you. Personally I found them to be a bit shouty, I wish I would have said that in the video.
@@NemoPropaganda well noted, thanks for this clarification! 🙂 Still for home theater system, what about Q acoustics 3020i (3010i for surround) or Polk Audio S15E (s10e for surround)? Not easy for me, my wife don't want too big speaker... 😂 And I'm ok to spend 2000€ to 2500€ for the entire system, AV receiver included.
Sorry for this long asking message... 😇
@@DoRoMa3000 hey brother no problem for the long question, I'm happy to answer. But unfortunately home cinema isn't really my strong point. I think the Polk S15/S10 with a good subwoofer like the REL HT1205 could certainly make a great budget system though! I have not heard the Q Acoustics but I know many people like those also.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks 🙂
Great review. I have owned two different models of the MA Bronze series and have always been disappointed with the sound. They always look fantastic as these do, but they never sound as good as they look. Dali Zensor are by far the best ones I've ever heard. And no, I don't work for the company. When you hear those speakers you will understand.
The only Dali I heard was the Oberon 1 and it was too bright for me, I actually ended up rebuying the Bronze 100 for my TV setup upstairs.
I bought the Dali Zensor 3 and completely disagree with you. I didn't like their sound at all. In my system the mid range was almost absent. I thought they had a very poorly balanced sound.
What you're describing sounds a lot like my current MA Bronze 2(the previous model the Bronze 100 replaces), minus the low end extension. They image and soundstage very well, and they do it well on a desktop, in a room, with or without toe-in. But they're not very refined, which is still fine for the price. So with bands like Tool where you can have all the instruments coming at you from every angle, they will make you freeze in your chair, and I like that.
But again, not very refined, and you need to pump up the volume for them to do that. The drum kicks are good and strong, but the bass guitar not as much, and you can feel it get lost in something like Pneuma from tool when it comes to mid/low sounds. The voice of the singer is just all around you and in your face, and very clear.
So now comes the question, would you say the Focal Aria 906 is an upgrade if I'm looking for the same but better?
oooo, okay okay, hmmm, so the refinement of the Aria 906 is outstanding BUT, because you are given so much detail if your other gear is not refined then it might give you a similar experience like you're getting tons of detail but it's a bit edgy and not the most separated. This is no fault of the Aria, we can say the same for any speaker that gives us lots of detail. If you're in a country like USA where the Aria is $2k I would say to get the Buchardt S400 MKII instead but if you're in an EU country where the Aria 906 is closer to $1200 then yeah it's a great option as long as your front end gear has a clean presentation and is not bright up top and lean in the mids. You want gear that's smooth up top and rich in the mids for the Aria 906 to sound it's best or a DAC that accomplishes that like the Ares II. One thing the MA Bronze does differently is it pushes the singer center image in a more focused way and a more forward way than the Aria 906. Hope this helps.
@@NemoPropaganda Yes Europe, and I've even heard people say on forums that the 906 goes for 500 EUR (580 USD?) a pair sometimes, new in store, which would be amazing to find again. So I'm pretty set on them for the right price. I can get them for 1000 EUR right now, but it doesn't feel right knowing I can get them for 5-600 if I wait a while.
The S400 are also an option, but I'd have to save up some more, and then who knows when I can upgrade the amp. The KEF R3 I also considered, also around 1k EUR, but the aesthetic of their "walnut" version is not for me with those bronze drivers.
I have an emotiva bas-x A-100 amp which I'm not sure if I would replace right now, I'm thinking of trying out a "more highend" DAC before the amp and see if it helps to clean up the sound, I may even do it before the speakers if the Aria price doesn't drop. Current DAC is a fiio BTR3 with a PC as the source, it's extremely convenient and for 50$ can't complain.
Thanks for the reply, I really enjoy your channel and your style of review. Like Sean likes to say in his gear reviews, very "matter of fact".
@@cristi724 Oh nice! I have an A100 also, it's a good amp, possibly the best amp for the money. So the A100 is voiced like the Aria 906, little bright up top, little cool in the midrange. Your MA bronze are the same way too though so I think you like an analytical sound. That's how I am, I like analytical with a little warmth in the midrange but I don't like that overly warm from top to bottom presentation.
Bronze 2 are better
Hi my friend, what do you think about volume low operation (70 db)?, whos better ?. Good video. Regards.
low volume around this price? You'll want to consider the Triangle Borea BR03 for sure!
Was in the middle between these and ubr62. Not anymore. Tnx 🤟😎
what did you pick?
@@NemoPropaganda ubr62, even if i like bass 😅 I prefer coaxial tweeter and 3way design
One day I might add Rel T/7x
@@marko-182 cool cool, UBR62 is nice, I still have to review mine, had it for over a year now lol
Hey man just found out about you and looked some of your reviews. Love how you talk and review! Just wanted to ask you about speaker choice and placement. Well I wanna get floorstanders or bookshelf to switch out my shitty soundbar. They have to be in corners theres no working around that sadly. WAF WAF WAF. I've been looking at spektor 2's q3020i because their good entry I would believe. But then i saw the dbr62 and i love the looks and how reviews talk about it. It's more expensive. Also like the oberon 1 and 3. Is it worth the extra price or is it like, I will be happy enough with something cheaper? So it has to be in corners is that really that much of a problem? If its just more bass well please give it to me, haha! And floorstanders vs bookshelfs? btw have a bad sub getting better later. Keep it up awesome reviewer!
Hey dude, you asked a few questions so I'll break it down:
1. Will you be happier with a cheaper speaker or should you get the Elac: so it's hard to say what will make you happy but I can tell you from my perspective personally speaking anytime I have bought a cheaper product when I had my eye on something slightly more expensive I always regretted it and constantly wished I had bought the slightly more expensive product. So my advice is always to buy the product that most catches your eye so I say go for the elac!
2. How bad is being shoved into corners: well it's pretty bad to say the least and many of the aspects reviewer's talk about like sound staging, imaging, bass and so on will be completely different when the speaker is shoved into a corner but who cares, it's the only option you have. With the Elac being a front ported design it will be best suited to being shoved against the wall so since that's the only option you have no sense in worrying about it.
3. Bookshelf vs. Floorstander: everyone has a preference here for me personally it just comes down to aesthetics. Bookshelf speakers on stands look really good to me and other people may argue floor standers have a fuller sound. I say just buy whatever you want :)
@@NemoPropaganda thank you so much for your answer! yeah I'm actually thinking mostly the elac love the looks. Though I really liked the bronze 100 after your review and others! Seems like for me. What u think?
@@Browex. I think the Elac will be better against a wall as it's front ported. But you can also plug the ports on the rear of the Bronze if needed. Personally I think the Elac is a much better speaker. Unless the Bronze is a lot cheaper I would buy the Elac. In my country (USA) they are the same price so it's an easy decision but it seems like in EU the Bronze is much cheaper.
Does it matter if I toe it in in the corner ? So it's diagonal ? Yeah like the bronze just cause it's 8 inch.blike my bass and would be awesome if i would be satisfied without a sub.
Try the bronze then, you can always return them if it’s not to your taste :). I prefer no toe in for the bronze.
Great review! Any owners of the bronze 100 6g, can confirm that the speaker terminals accept standard banana plugs?
They do.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the reply!
Great review! So which bookshelf speaker in the $600 per pair to $1000 is ideal for a 2 channel music listening setup without a sub?
Is second hand an option? www.usaudiomart.com/details/649674699-buchardt-s300/
@@NemoPropaganda Not really, I had looked at the Buchardts but they were out of my price range. I would love to check them out. I'll probably end up with the Elac Debut DBR62's. If I could see them before purchasing I'd go for the Buchardts. Thanks for the link!
@@Renerator okay so the Elac are great without a sub, the bass they produce while not high in quantity is very high quality with excellent midbass tightness and note distinction and I find it very pleasing without a subwoofer. You do need power to get that out of them though like an honest 50w rms (emotiva ta100 or iotaVX is the cheapest amps i would use) but more power would be better. I think the DBR62 is a speaker that half the owners will want a sub and half the owners will think it sounds fine without one so I think that's a great option! The Revel M16 has excellent bass also though I don't feel it's worth the $300 more it costs over the DBR62.
@@NemoPropaganda Hey man, that's what I'm looking for! You nailed it. I'm not putting these in a dedicated listening room, just a space next to our living room where we've put a cabinet for a simple 2-Channel system. I currently have an Arcam SA10 integrated amp, a Bluesound Node 2i steamer connected to a Benchmark HDG dac, and a Project Essential TT. I play these through a pair of Elac 2.0 B6.2 speakers. I'm just trying to quench the upgrade bug. The base is not so prominent in these speakers. Maybe it's my amp that's not powerful enough?
@@Renerator could be the amp but more than likely it's probably just how your room is. Most rooms are not perfect and that's okay :D
Are you testing new out of the box or have you burned them in. Mine just came to life all of a sudden are they are fantastic. Bought them last week and have been running them in.
after break-in
Shrillness, overly sharp sounding?
Sounds like what I experienced with the Monitor Audio 50 in near-field listening, even at medium volumes. I don't like bright aggressive speakers. I'm wondering if the 100 be better for this?
What if I like *detailed* treble but not aggressive speakers? What do you recommend? Emotiva B1+?
The B1+ can be aggressive depending on what you connect it to but that AMT tweeter is interesting. It's initial sound is strong but it's follow through and decay are soft/smooth so as long as you the amp you pair it with is on the smoother side I think it might be something you can enjoy. Personally when using the B1+ I do like to trim 1db on the treble so if you have tone controls just 1 click down makes them perfect in my opinion. The Elac Debut 2.0 series is also less aggressive with good detail. I will be reviewing those soon.
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you for your clear answers. I'll await your Elac Debut 2.0 review with interest, although what I've read in some hi-fi forums and measurements is that the Elac Debut Reference may be superior in most ways...
@@xavdeman oh it should be as it's double the price. I'm just hoping the 5.2 is good for the money. They just landed today along with my second REL HT1205!
Hi, very late to the video so not expecting a reply haha. However, in case you see this, I am a bit stuck between purchasing a pair of these MA Bronze 100s, some Q acoustics 3030i, or BW 606 s2. Managed to find really good deals on all 3, with the BW costing only £100 more. I will use the speakers for TV, gaming and listening to music (mainly house, rap and rock) so large punchy bass is extremely important to me! My room is quite large but at times the speakers will be used close field. Could you recommend or not recommend any of these options, or possibly suggest anything else around the £500 mark. Loved the video and found it extremely informative, you’ve earned my sub 👍
I have not heard those Q acoustics, the B&W are too bright for my taste but you might like them. The MA bronze are excellent for TV use but a little dry for music only. Those are popular brands, I suggest you try to demo them in person first. That should help a lot.
@@NemoPropaganda ahh thankyou so much, you mentioned that the Bronze 100s hit low frequencies, but does the bass still punch well? Also, would a 30 watt per channel stereo amplifier suffice in powering them?
@@jamestaylor1162 no not really, the MA Bronze extend low but the 607 S2 actually have way more bass and punch way harder. If you have tone controls you could turn down the treble a bit and maybe that could be a win for you!
@@NemoPropaganda thanks, I think I will purchase the bronze 100s or at least try and demo them soon. I will be taking them to uni in a few weeks and the rooms are about 15/20 square metres. Would this be a potential problem with the speakers being used often for 1) a room of that size 2) lower level listening. Thankyou so much for answering my questions, sorry to be a pain 😂😅
@@jamestaylor1162 room shouldn't be an issue, if its a bad room its only temporary anyway. The Bronze 100 is pretty big though, make sure you're okay with the size before you buy it.
Nemo have you heard the Bronze 200 towers? I’m trying to decide between a large bookshelf or a smaller floorstander
I have not heard the towers sorry. Towers will generally give you a fuller sound but sometimes not image as well. It's a trade off but a lot of people prefer towers. Personally I just like the aesthetic look of bookshelves on a stand.
Would love to hear your take on the Laspada bl-a 2 way monitor. Can buy them via Ebay directly from Laspada for $400 right now, regular $549 pair.
Hey Tom, since I spend my own money for this channel I generally will only review gear I'm personally interested in and that's not a speaker I'm particularly interested in at this time.
@@NemoPropaganda no worries, I saw Laspada is a U.S.A. company that makes what look to be decent crossovers and cables. They have been making that speaker for a while but there are not many reviews. I thought it would work well for HT applications and might be one you would consider. Thanks for your reply.
@@NemoPropaganda I always figure a company that sells direct like emotiva and Laspada you get more bang for the buck closer to diy pricing. Most modern day speakers under $1k use very marginal if not cheap parts in most cases. I have previewed many contemporary budget (under $600) speakers and for my money I can get a vintage speaker like a 90's jbl l1 that sold for $750 new in 1992 for under $300. A dollar today is worth about half what it was in 1990 so if JBL made that same speaker today it would probably cost $1400+ and I can pretty much guarantee you wont find any contemporary budget speaker that would even be competitive in build and sound quality. The JBL is just one example as there are several vintage speakers that offer great value and I'm sure could even be improved upon with appropriate upgrades or newer poly caps and coils. Just my 2cents. Keep on doing what your doing...I and your audience appreciate it.
@@tomhamilton6377 Thank you! In some cases they do pass the savings on to the consumer but an online direct business model still does require a lot of marketing dollars so It also has a lot of other cost so I don't think it's exactly like DIY value but there certainly is a bit more value in most cases like Emotiva.
Hey man, i discovered your channel recently and i really like your honest and straightforward reviews approach. I wanted to ask your opinion about the following :
So i recently set up my first proper Hi-Fi system consisting of Triangle Borea Bro3 as speakers, Atoll In50SE as amplifier ( it is a solid state A/B amp with 50w for 8 ohms with a tube sound signature ), the SoundblasterX AE-5 an 100 euro-ish PC ESS SABRE DAC/AMP and it is set up in a pretty small 10 square meter square-shaped room ( it's the best i have unfortunately ) on my desktop forming a 1-meter equilateral listening triangle and with around 50 cm distance from the rear walls and about 80-100cm from the side walls.
My problem is that i am a bit disappointed with the system's bass output. The overall sound signature result is on the warm side of neutral which is what i was expecting ( and wanted ) based on most of the reviews i went through but the BRO3's bass is reported to be strong and satisfying which is something i never noticed even after more than three months of at least 5 hours of daily usage ( gaming/movies/music ), meaning that they are well broken in by now.
One thing i must mention though is that i haven't placed them on proper speaker stands yet ( i will buy some Iso Acoustics ones in the future ) and instead i used some stacks of old heavy thick books to raise them to ear level so that could be a culprit there ( maybe the books are absorbing the base output volume or something ? ). Another thing i would like to add is that i own an old Onkyo home-theater subwoofer which i hadn't been able to implement properly with my previous active speakers and was hoping to use it now on one of my amplifier's pre-outs but when i eventually did connect it seemed to be not functioning as it should and i was starting to think that maybe the amplifier has a problem with bass frequencies or something of that manner ( the subwoofer could be faulty as well of course).
When i was deciding on the speakers, i must say i had noticed the Monitor Audio Bronze 100 and their unusually large 8-inch woofers but i thought that the BRO3s bass output would be enough for this small room of mine ( I should note that since i am not a bass maniac or anything i wanted to try to be content from the bookshelf speaker's bass without using a subwoofer ).
The sound signature i was aiming for was a ballsy full-bodied enjoyable fun-packed non-treble exaggerated sound at low to moderate listening db levels as most of my usage is low recording quality gaming/movies and death/black metal. I would really appreciate if you have any thoughts to share about this peculiar situation of mine. Thanks !!!
Hey blood, I like some death metal too! So bass response can be highly room dependent, then on top of that where the speakers are placed in the room is a big deal, and furthermore where you sit is a big deal too! If any of these are off you can have weak bass response. Personally I use a subwoofer with all bookshelf speakers except my Buchardt S400. Most people with desktop audio have a hard time having good bass because they're sitting in a null. Some people add a subwoofer underneath the desk to help with this but desktop audio is an entirely different realm that I'm not too familiar with :(
I'm wondering how Monitor Audio's Bronze 100s compares to the Diamond 12.2 ...any first hand experience, anyone? :) In my region can find the Diamond 12.2s for €375 and the Bronze 100s for €450.. So, torn between the two, and would much appreciate any expert input on the subject.
Sorry I've not heard the 12.2s but from what I've heard Wharfdale is a warmer sound while the Bronze 100 are more analytical, brighter, etc... While I didn't love the sound for music It's one of my top recommendations for tv/movies. As the soundstage is huge, the imaging is excellent and dialogue clarity is the best I've heard at this price.
Hi Nemo you have new suscriber 😁 I'm new to hifi. Strugling already one month to buy my first hi fi system. I want pure for music 2.0 system.I decided to go with ROTEL A11 MK2 and I was in doubt between this MA bronze 100 and Dynaudio emit 10. After you said that bronze 100 make higher tone I notice that in some compare video and you just comfirm what I think. Do you have some better speakers to recommend in same price range? Thanks in advance
Hi bro, what budget are you working with for speakers? lmk and I'll recommend some stuff.
@@NemoPropaganda hi bro, for speakers up to 1000€ and amp also same range 1000€ or usd...thanks so much...already exhausted after so many videos 😅
@@NemoPropaganda I cancel bronze, i see that they are to bright for my taste, better something warmer
@@NemoPropaganda and if I need to realy stretch out to get realy good hi fi sound, I can go with 3000€ like second option
Hi Nemo and everyone, while we noticed all the limitation of this speakers, please bear in mind that Bronze is the entry level series. Further upwards we have the Silver, Gold and Platinum. We need to be reasonable with our expectations.
it may be their entry level but I just assess based on price and how it comapres to other speakers around the same price. At full price ($725/pair) it doesn't really stack up. I feel this is a speaker best bought on sale or open box discount.
This might sound a little crazy but the Monitor Audio tweeters need an extra long time to "break-in" do a follow-up in 6 months. I know there's a lot of debate over "break-in" and also speaker wires and I went through several higher end brands before picking the Tara Labs mate best with the Monitor Audio speakers. I even tried bi-wiring with Audioquest bedrock cables and the MA's still sounded better on my equipment in my room with what was a less expensive Tara Labs Prism single cable speaker wires. Granted the Tara Labs are not a stranded cable but solid core copper.
I believe in break in but no amount of break-in can fix these. I had them connected to $7500 worth of what is otherwise smooth/neutral sounding gear and another few hundred dollars in room treatment. If it takes 6 months to break in my brother, It's the human breaking in, not the gear. And again I do believe in break-in. I gave these 30 hours, that should have gotten them most of the way there.
@@NemoPropagandabro, $7k of gear..what an amp and turntable, cd player and you went with these? Lol that's like taking a supermodel out for dinner to McDonald's.
@@yeahnah7220 I review stuff at various price points bro. I don't use these speakers, I just reviewed them.
Just ordered a pair for 200 eur brand new :)
woo baby now that's what I call a deal!!!!!!!! At that price they are worth every damn penny!
How about comparing these to the B&W 606 S2 (Anniversary)?
XDM, this is a less than $400 speaker so I don't think it makes sense to compare it to the $900 B&W 606 S2-A. While the Bronze 100 is $600 here in USA, it is a less than $400 speaker in most parts of the world and sells for 350 euro in EU. The B&W 6 series overall should be superior to these in every way except bass extension due to the physical size.
@@NemoPropaganda Am in EU, B&W 606 (non S2) is on sale often for the same price as Monitor Audio 100 non-sale price. Monitor Audio 100 is rarely €350, more like €450.
@@xavdeman Maybe it's just UK, all the UK sites list the Bronze 100 for 325 gbp which is 368 euro. Sadly the BW 606 Anniversary are all $899 here :(. I hate that companies do this. The 607 Anniversary is a little cheaper at $699 but still much more than the Bronze 100. If they are the same in your area I would for sure buy the B&W instead.
You cant compare with normal 606, never mind s2. Bronze 100 not very musical speaker. 606 are very nice sounding more lively more all round better sounding. 606 will give up at 85-90db, where bronze100 can go up to 100db pretty much
monitor audio bronze 500 or polk s60 same goes to bronze 100 vs polk s20 thanks in advance
Havn’t heard the towers but bronze gets my vote. I ended up buying a white pair for my upstairs TV system.
I have owned monitor audio MR - Monitor audio Bronze and Silver speakers they need at least 70hrs run time then loose off the allen bolt and re tightened they will sound like a different speaker .. please people read the manuals the run in time is specified ..
The pair I bought were second hand and I gave them another 30 hours and connected them to $7500 worth of gear that is smooth/neutral sounding. I think that more than evens them out and gives them a serious advantage. I feel I gave these more than a fair chance and stand behind my assessment. Unless you have heard them yourself I think you're just assuming they sound like the more expensive gear you have which is not always the case. The Dynaudio M10 sounds nothing like their more expensive gear for example.
These vs B&W 607? (Pre S2)
Not sure I'm sorry, haven't heard the 607.
What if you use a "warmer" amp, like a Marantz?
I have not heard any Marantz amps.
Please review the kef q750 or any of the tower variants
Hey Poser, so I had planned to until 2 things happened that broke my heart: 1. I saw them in person and the overall finish was a huge disappointment and 2. learning 2 of the 3 bass drivers are passive radiators was another big heart breaker. With that said I was completely turned off by this speaker :(.
@@NemoPropaganda awe alright good to know thanks for your input cheers ✌🏻
@@PoserGalore anytime!
@@NemoPropaganda FWIW, I picked up a pair of white KEF Q-750's on sale, and absolutely love them, fit and finish is fine. Hooked them up to a 3 year old Yamaha A-S801 (silver), spinning vinyl on a Denon Dp-300F and they sound better than my B&W 603's or Paradigm 9se's. Most listening is in direct mode, but found I don't need to use the sub. If more bass is needed, the tone controls and unique variable loudness control on the Yami amp does more than enough. Even at very high volume there's zero distortion and very punchy. But, like anything else, it's personal preference. I'm over 60, so what my old ears hear, is different from what a 25 year old will hear. I've got Paradigms, Energy Ref, B&W, Polks, as well as a Rotel amp, Audio Reflex EQ, but the KEF Q-750 and the Yami AS801 is, in my opinion, almost a perfect match between an amp and a speaker. Each speaker has it's own sound signature, just as much as every amp does. The hard part, (or fun part), is going through life trying different match ups... as much as your budget (and the wife), will allow you😉. Keep up the great reviews, (but don't dismiss the KEF 750 or 950's, they are surprisingly good) Cheers!
@@nobodyimportant6851 Hey Nobody, thank's for sharing your experience with us. Perhaps I'm judging them too harshly, in the past I was able to at least hear some stuff locally before bringing in stuff for review but Covid has forced me to be more critical :(. Most reviewers are getting their gear sent to them for free while I have to buy all mine which makes it uniquely challenging as my channel generates zero revenue. If i find a pair on the used market I might give them a whirl.
Have you listened to the monitor audio silver range?
I haven't bro sorry.
Have you tried this with a tube amp? I'm curious if it could somehow fix its weakenesses.
i have not, I don't have them anymore.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks
Just go the silver 7g if you can spend a few more bucks. Overall far better finish, sound and just better value.
Hi ..it is okey for surround soud for home Theater....or is better with bronze 50....bronze 100 for front and bronze 50 for surround anf maybe bronze c150 for center
Or i make bronze 500 for front speaker and 100 for the surround back ....thanks
I think Bronze 100 is too big for surrounds and Bronze 50 would look much nicer instead. Hope that helps.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks..... but bronze 100 is okey for Front ans bronze 50 for back rear or
@@klauspeterpeter8278 Yeah, the Bronze 100 are pretty big so they should be great for fronts if you don't want towers.
@@NemoPropagandaand Wien i make bronze 500 for fronts and 100 bronze for center...or oll 500 for fronts..for home Theater..which is best Konfiguration..thanks
@@klauspeterpeter8278 since you want to use all the same brand speakers I think it makes more snese to ask Monitor Audio directly, they have tested multiple configurations and should be better equipped to answer this question.
Dali Zensor 3 vs Bronze 100 wich is best?
Havn't heard the zensor 3 I'm sorry. But I love the Bronze 100 for TV & Movies, I use it upstairs in my TV rig and voices are crystal clear!!
Did you have the chance to listen to Bronze 500? Could they be different being 2.5 way?
I have not, they certainly could be different as they are a different design and most likely use different crossovers.
Had bronze 100, now got bronze 500. Doesnt matter what you go for they can handle power lots of it. But they not musical speakers.
@@user-el2zj3pw5r Thank you for helping answer questions :D.
@@NemoPropaganda no prob but definitely wasn’t trying to help you to answer the questions 😎 was helping people asking the questions
Yes thats what i mean :)
100 or Oberon 3? Denon PMA 600 NE is an amp
I have only heard Oberon One, based on that I would prefer the Bronze 100 for sure.
@@NemoPropaganda it’s fine for electronic music, right?
Do these have screw holes on the bottom for mounting?
No holes on bottom or rear, this one is rather large so I would not mount it anyway. The 50 would be better for mounting though.
@@NemoPropaganda do the 50 have mounting options then? Thank you so much!
@@Browex. i’m not sure as i only have the 100 here :(. Honestly though if you were looking for a monitor audio speaker for mounting in my opinion the best one is the Radius 90 it’s much smaller so it will look better it sounds really good too and you can find them on the secondhand market for a little less $200.
It's for hometheather but maybe that's a good one for that ? Don't have to be MA speaker just liked the 100 .
@@Browex. ah I see, the Bronze 100 is just too big for mounting honestly. The Radius series was designed for compact home theater, great deals to be had on ebay but they still sell new ones too!
its a budget spaakers may be if they release the 7g
7g would be a budget speaker too though. Bronze is always their entry level.
The missus said to me the other day..... Let me get this straight. You spend £1,000 on speaker cables because you can 'hear the difference," but you can't hear me calling you from the kitchen ☺
Sounds like she's not supporting you bro, you need to leave her bro. Tell her the man on youtube told you so you have no choice :D
That’s one of the funniest shits I’ll read online😅
I just read the comments before even watching this video and I can tell what people are talking about. Andrew Robinson was falling over himself with these for the price! All I can tell you is I had the Gold 100 version from Crutchfield last year and I couldn't wait to give them back! 🤯 Were they resolving, hell yes very resolving , too resolving! For example on some piano tracks you could hear the Pianist pushing on the foot pedals. On some other less resolving speakers you can't hear the noises, but that doesn't mean they don't sound great! Think of a marble going around a roulette wheel a metal marble and a metal roulette wheel that's what it sounded like! These reviews are like asking like which ice cream brand of vanilla do you like better and there's no correct answer evidently!😉🤗😇 I might have to purge some of my subscriptions, and you are not one of them!🤔🤭🤫😉😇 It seems that people who do this for a living may unintentionally like mediocre things for various reasons or they just like this flavor/brand of ice cream!🤭🤭🤑🤫🤔
Oooh that sounds horrible :(. I like Andrew a lot and look up to him in many respects but he makes it no secret that he is targeting the "average joe" and not "audiophiles" specifically so he's going to be more forgiving of speakers shortcomings and especially at more obtainable price points. Additionally not having room treatment does mean he will hear his room a little more than the speakers leading to sometimes drawing comparisons that may not be the most spot on but his argument would probably be that most people don't have room treatment and that's a fair perspective to have, it just doesn't serve the "audiophile" which again is not his goal anyway. Personally I think Zero Fidelity is the gold standard for any discerning or often times overly critical listener which is most audiophiles :D.
I would have never watched a review of these speakers if you didn't review them. I got so annoyed when I saw the frequency response spec of these on another youtube channel that I clicked out after the first min of the review. How is a tolerance of -6 dB a useful spec? When I see things like that I just assume the manufacturer is fucking with me.
bro, Revel gives a -10db spec for the M16 lol :D but in fairness they also provide -3db. The in room response of this speaker is impressive. Though it is the only impressive part about this speaker honestly.
@@NemoPropaganda I don't mind if a company publishes a minus ten million dB spec if they also publish a minus 3 or smaller tolerance spec. What pissed me off is that the -6 dB tolerance was the ONLY frequency response spec on Monitor Audio's webpage for these speakers.
@@yamafanboy if it's just -6db that's actually a tighter tolerance and the same as + - 3db but if it's + - 6db that's really awful. I wish there was more consistency in measurements honestly but yeah minus only without the plus sign is a tighter measurement.
@@NemoPropaganda interesting I didn't even think about that. Ok I concede that monitor audio is not the spawn of satan after all lol.
@@yamafanboy Ahahaha, no they're not, they are the spawn of bright and offensive gear though lol
You're deaf! Elacs sound dull and dead compared to MAs.
Do you own both speakers and have them in the same room connected to the same gear?
I have both. IMHO, it’s a matter of taste, personal preference. Elacs are easy to listen. Very relaxing. Sometimes it’s boring. MAs are analytical, unforgiving to your source and requires a good equipment match/placement but makes you study the music. When I listen to the Last Carnaval by Norihiro Tsuru’s album Acoustic Cafe, I can feel the message the artist is sending. Elacs, on the other hand, always send the same message with any music. Both are equally good speakers. Just a matter of taste and mood.
Hola amigo!!! como se llaman los reproductores de cd que reproduce sin pausa? El topaz 10 lo tengo y corta la continuacion entre temas en discos conceptuales o clasicos.
Hi bro, I don't speak Spanish, can you use google translate?
@@NemoPropaganda Hi, friend!!! what are cd players that play non-stop called? I have topaz 10 and it cuts off the sequel between tracks on concept or classic albums.
@@tin8551 oh bro I'm sorry, I don't use any CD players.
I was thinking of buying these as I have the BX2s, then I saw the grill on these speakers, yuk.
ahaha, yeah, I respect that they tried something different but it looks a bit odd for sure.