Braverman, Badenoch or even Farage: who is going to be the next Tory leader | LBC
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- The Tories deserved their historic General Election defeat because of their "idiotic" strategy, Suella Braverman has warned.
Ms Braverman is one of a number of Tory MPs who are considering running to become Tory leader, including Kemi Badenoch, Tom Tugendhat, and Priti Patel.
There is even some talk of Nigel Farage joining the Tories, after he said he wanted to carry out a "reverse takeover" of the party.
In this video, Lewis Goodall is joined by Natasha Clark and the deputy Tory chairman Matt Vickers to discuss the future of his party.
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Watching Braverman and Patel trash each other would be worth the popcorn. Still the Toxic Tories.
No, it really wouldn’t. So tired of airspace being given over to misery, discord and acting out their ego-based, arrested-development tantrums. It has been truly refreshing to edit out all that endless negativity and be able to hear some grown up thinking for the last 2 days. Let’s not be drawn into their soulless dramas ever again! There are many more positive happy ways to spend our few minutes on Earth.
Great comment. Maybe watching working people being able to shop in a supermarket I steady if a food bank might be more entertaining to less privelidged folk than you.
@@consideredwhisperyeah they don’t deserve any public attention. The less they are acknowledged the better!
@@Mike-tv9rkYou think Labour are going to do any better? The Tories are Blairite party wearing blue ties. Starmer says he s more comfortable at Davos than Westminster. A real man of the working class isn't he.
@consideredwhisper sadly the "Jeremy Hunts" aren't going to go away.
Jesus, that guy reminds me of why I will never vote Tory 🤮
Right now there aren't that many reminders.😄
Absolutely
He looks like the kind of bloke who'd try to nick your coat in the pub.
@@Malky24Are you saying people with a northern accent are somehow lesser beings who commit crime? Just listen to yourself 🙄
@@mogznwazno, YOU should read what people have written before shooting off your mouth about things they HAVE NOT SAID! No one has said ANYTHING about where he comes from.Nor abut people who commit crimes. YOU listen to yourself.
Doesn't much matter who is at the 'head', when the whole party and its ethos is rotten to the core...
@@gpw203There’s only one party that got decimated on Thursday👍
What ethos? Small government, lower taxes, equality of opportunity, aspiration and work rewarded rather than class envy and welfare? Tradition and family rather than 3 Dads and feral kids?
@@mogznwazAspiration and hard work aren't rewarded. Millions of citizens work long hours at difficult jobs, to get paid a "living wage" that barely covers rent and bills. What opportunity do they have, other than work hard to make their boss rich?
@@mogznwazAfter 14 years the so called govt of low taxes left us with the highest taxes for 70 years. And did nothing with it, as nothing works in the UK.
Like a fish the rot started from the head but certainly made it to the core
Matt Vickers’ comparison to Labour regrouping and recovering since their 2019 defeat isn’t accurate. Labour hasn’t been busy wrecking the economy while treating the public to their self obsessed psychodrama since 2019.
Right and the main reason for voting Tory has been fiscal responsibility. Now they are the party of reckless economics.
Suella Braverman....She's beyond Evil & enjoys her Cruelty.
Braverman is as unhinged as Truss.
@@royboy565 The way Truss talked made her sound more Goofy though.
Very true
Narcissists don’t have insight though.
How dare these people talk about the supposed fear their constituents have about what a Labour government will mean for them, when we've spent the past 14 years helplessly watch the Tories destroy every part of the country. At worst, Labour will be no better than what we already have and at best we'll see some improvements. But most of all, Im looking forward to a government who takes their roles seriously and acts like adults. Will it be perfect? Absolutely not, because no government is. But will it constantly attack the poor, the vulnerable and the sick? Will it demean our core values as a country? Will it take the country as a bunch of idiots who must "do as we say but not as we do"? Will it show complete disdain (and cruelty) to those who didn't vote for them? No.
take the message the voters gave you and FO. Don't let the door hit you
Please let it be Braverman. That will guarantee another huge Tory defeat in 2029.
Judging by their recent elected leaders it wouldn’t surprise me if they did
Braverman goes above and beyond on being vile - even other Tories don't like her
Nothing about elderly people being sent back to care homes and about 40,000 of them dying as a result!😡
Or the 6,000 care home staff who were sacked because they would not have an untested drug shot into their bodies. The destruction of the economy because of their lockdown policies, and more.
Shamefully, neither of the two main parties seem to care that much. So, with their interest in Social Care, perhaps the Lib Dems will push this issue?
Ironically it's largely the elderly that keep voting for this awful party even though the Tories don't even care about them unless they're wealthy!
@@Skylark_Jones that is ironic! Im 73 but, have had a lifetimes hatred of the Tories. I cant understand why anybody votes for them. I would say theyve always been the same but, this lot take the biscuit!
@@clarecollins2547You just have ingrained socialist hatred of rich and/or posh people
If you actually listen to what Vickers is saying in this interview, it's painfully clear that he hasn't learnt anything about why the Cons lost, despite him banging on about reflecting on what happened. He really doesn't seem to get it, does he?
Yes and he wants to hold Labour to account thats rich why Doesn't he hold his own party to account for how they ruined this country for 14yrs
Dodging the questions - they have learned nothing. The tories deserve 10 years in the wilderness (at least).
Sorry, no this is the tory: always ignore the questions.
Mate 100 years
@@TheWolfe83
Wrong country
I see the Tory’s still get interviewed as if they’d won something 🤔😂
The Cons still obsessed with Boris is what continues to lose them support.
In the short term, there might be a by election in the next year. It would be funny if Boris pops up but I doubt it
Yeah, clinging on the past, they are so deluded, they obviously don’t understand what went wrong! Boris’s sale by date has expired…
Absolutely, I hate that man for scuppering the peace deal in Ukraine ,he has the blood of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian young men on his hands. And allowed hundreds of elderly people to die alone,while he partied. He is vile
It’s like they don’t remember party gate
@@laviniasey100% correct 2022 Boris is a war criminal.
have you noticed something especially sickening from some of these losing Tories: they bleat on about jobs lost by their staff.
HOW MANY MILLIONS of Brits LOST THEIR JOB THANKS TO BREXIT?
How many lost their business, thanks to Brexit?!!
He Cries for HIS STAFF??? Jesus.
All this interview has demonstrated is how little he's actually thought about the situation.
If you knew anything, you'd know Brexit was essential.
Crying for spilt milk when a massacre is on the horizon.
Democide. The government is the greatest threat to human life on the planet, it's not even close. ⅓ billion murdered by their governments in the 20th century alone.
Keep government as small as possible with as limited power as possible to avoid the inevitable conclusion of their schemes.
Most of those "employees" are their wife being paid £50k+ as a secretary
This bloke doesn't think the Tories deserved to lose ??????
He's a member of the "rules for thee but not for me" brigade. Rulers rather than stewards. He should have no place whatsoever in politics.
No he said a lot of Tory MPs are dedicated and hardworking and not responsible for mistakes at the top and didn’t deserve to lose their jobs. It was quite a human comment and your immediately hostile interpretation says more about you and your rancid hatred of Tories - just because they’re Tories. Are you aware that there is a political spectrum and views other than your own are not just valid but valuable?
Rancid hatred of the Conservatives? I'm in!
@@mogznwazhe didn’t really say anything constructive. He avoided answering the important questions. I think after q4 years of watching our public services and welfare state being ripped apart , people being killed off in their thousands by the likes of Johnson and the wholesale pilfering of billions of £s of tax payers money I think we are entitled to feel and express ur disgust at this rancid party.
@@jamesgriffithsmusicor perhaps that should be hatred of rancid tories?
So, David Cameron with 36.1% of the votes in 2010 also did not have a mandate ?
Correct. Do you need the basics of politics explained to you like a 5 year old? Its not difficult you poor little tory 😞
Technically he didn’t that was why it was a hung Parliament….
Cameron was a liberal hence he worked with Nick clegg all ok.
@@Warbaman Wow, I have not been called a tory before🤣
The last time any govt got 50%was over 70 years ago so on that basis no govt really has a mandate.
@@PeaceProsperity-dv7hs
Coalition
Vickers has a very selective memory. He's only bullshitting himself.
There will be a massive demand for therapists to treat Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.😁
"we should've listened more", well why didn't you??
WEF.
Because they knew better, they went to private schools and are rich, we just work pay our taxes and do the best we can to support our families so don't know anything. Effing knew enough to recognise and get rid of a lying, corrupt bunch of w⚓s, as they found out.
The tories literally don't have a single half decent human in the party 😂😂
They have at least one, Caroline Nokes.
Especially now that JRM lost his seat.
@@adamcadovius4566I assume that's sarcasm
Andrew Bridgen .
@@clivewalker5465a grifting 🛎end, nothing more than that...
Oh my dawg, even with zero sting this mp is still hedging his bets and avoiding straight answers
Praying that Braverman or Patel get the job. Need to keep the Tories in the wilderness for as long as possible.
😂😂😂😂
Braverman would actually pull back the lost votes to Reform, it would be a start
😂😂
@@gpw203 please shine any light in the comment section why you think those clowns who just lost the election were worth keeping in government??
I’m guessing there is none!!!
@@gpw203 Yeah, they could instead support privatizing everything and it would more efficiently siphon public funds to corporations. 🙄
How do words like "incompetent" and "corrupt" not come up more?
They are doomed with Braverman/Patel
Really!! Braverman would take back all the voters from reform because she and Farage are on same page as most of the British public. If she continued the same as reform and the party could be trusted it would be game over. Don't believe me, listen to the public.
And they are doomed with Badnoch also.
Don't be silly. Had they allowed Suella to implement her policies as the Home Office Secretary, they may have averted the disaster.
I've got a horrible feeling they wouldn't be. Which is an even worse feeling.
Imagine braverman as leader.
"We must listen to the message from the public..." OH, I think the message was pretty clear pal. F.O.
There is still no honesty within the Tory party as to why it was annihilated, until that happens it cannot rebuild itself because the same issues will still exist.
Olukemi Olufunto Badenoch is a liar and a bully
A typical Tory, then.
And thick as mince.
And African
@@stratblasterGo forth and multiply
And a Nigerian , who didn't move to the UK until it suited her family aged 16
Sure, the party is in a downward spiral - why stop now? 😂
"we're a broad church, the broader the better" when asked if he would support an open Hitlerite in his party.
Says it all really
The closest you're going to get to honesty with this mob.
He didn't actually answer one question.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Pathetic and disgusting. How about the introduction of the Austerity lie and work your way from there.
Being a Tory is why they failed.
There was no ‘austerity’ in any real sense. This leftie lie needs to be challenged. The Left call it austerity if working people’s money isn’t thrown at everything in greater and greater quantities
lewis shows why they are out...cant even admit boris was a total liability .Unquestioning Loyalty to a pathological liar who like minded sociopaths
If this guy thinks sticking with Boris would have solved Conservative trashing he has learnt nothing
I hope he doesn't think that Boris completed his term in the office 😂😂😂
Why is there NEVER any talk of turnout when the Tories win,there have ALWAYS been more people NOT wanting the Tories with percentage of the electorate,but when they get in it is NEVER an issue.
This woman is horrendously biased
This. I watched Jonathon Reynolds being interviewed this morning and they asked him about the fact the majority didn't vote for labour so how were they going to impose their policies on those people - they never once asked that about Boris Johnson's government yet Boris got 43.6% of the votes which means the majority didn't vote for him.
Yeah, funny that.
Until you get 95 percent of the electorate coming out to vote you’re never going to get a statistically significant mandate to govern.
The turnout for this particular election was almost an all time low. 20% of voting aged people actually voted for Labour.
Historically how things lie, the conservatives have typically needed to get 3 percent more than Labour who can typically get in on about 36-37% where the conservatives need close to 40%.
Unfortunately unless you’re a student, immigrant, trade unionist, or dosing on the council labour’s probably not in your interest. 🤣
Let’s just hope too many native Brits don’t leave, but if history repeats itself that’ll happen.
@@chrysalis4126vote share is a bit of a straw man argument.
1. There is currently no legal way to vote for a party. You vote for an individual to represent your interests and that individual might align with a party.
2. A combined Tory + Reform vote share is still less than a Labour + Lib Dem + SNP + Green etc vote share. That means, if a coalition government was in place, you'd still have the same idea of policies being imposed.
3. A certain section of the population could advocate for being back lead paint and asbestos, that does not mean it's a viable, sensible, workable idea.
The baseline idea that there is a need to give air to ideas that are obvious non starters makes no sense.
I'm still shocked that these horrible torys got voted back in.
Well they were in Tory run constituencies so it shouldn’t be surprising in hindsight.
Horrible seems an emotional word.
Do you decide everything based on emotions?
I guess not.
So why do it through politics?
If you are voting emotionally you are being misled and misdirected 100% of the time.
@stephenbermingham6554 100% people vote emotively.
Not based on facts and figures.
@@stephenbermingham6554 The word horrible is accurate, the level of corruption and contempt for the british public, turning citizens into enemies for votes, was indeed horrific.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 so where most of them an they lost there seats
The tories are in a position where under their own rules, a leadership contest is triggered by as little as 19 MPs giving letters of no confidence. They are 100% in a long term crisis as the extremists wont let the moderates normalise the party. Love to see it.
“We are going to get together and work out what went wrong”…. And I’m sure at the end of your various meetings, you will conclude it wasn’t your fault.
It's never ever the tories fault. That's what public school drills into them.
@@royboy565a big boy done it and ran away, he was dressed as a 🤡 and had a 🤖 with him.
Whoever the next leader is, they won’t be there for long. My guess is 3 leaders before the the next GE
Have you seen the numbers of young people who say they would consider voting tory? They're dinosaurs walking.
The leadership fight will be like "Cats in a sack" fighting away, trouble is Farage is holding the sack......he will drown the winner..🙈😳
....and that's fine by me lol.
As long as Farage joins them
@@royboy565 lol yup. Mind you, he is such a lazy grifter, I doubt he will hang around for too long....
Now that Mr Garage hopes to drive his dodgy vehicle at the Labour Party, perhaps he is willing to highlight his detailed plans for better roads and public transport?
Yesterday's people. No longer of any relevance.
There is not going to be an internal reflection, they still feel totally entitled.
The interview at the end is exactly why people are sick of the Tories. Dodging questions, shifty answers or no answers at all.
Contrast that with Labour give so far. Direct, answering like real people.
There's a very simple reason why the Tories got obliterated. It's because, not only did they fail to deliver, but they left the country in a worse state than when they started. Moreover, they took great pains to feather their own nest, whilst ignoring the electorate. Guess what, we noticed.
Suella can you consider joining Reform party you would be fantastic in there
Yep, join the rest of the insignificants.
Truss "era"??????? 😂😂😂😂😂 . Lettuces don't last as long as eras. That's a scientific fact.
Yes the Tories have lost support, and they've lost MPs, but far more problematic for them is that they've entirely lost political credibility amongst voters of any persuasion. Numerous policies they pursued during 14 years of Government have one after another, been unmitigated disasters for the nation, and it will not be forgotten.
Now, as a small and pretty much powerless opposition, and an ever present reminder of the source of the calamity to be repaired, rebuilding any level of public confidence in them is going to be a nigh on impossible task. This unfocused and disconnected mess that the Conservative Party has become should be dissolved and (perhaps) reformed IMO.
The fact he thinks Johnson should have remained leader tells me they are not worthy of office.
"many"... Is this now the appropriate word to talk about conservative MPS?
It doesn't matter the damage has been done. This election was the most important in my 71 year life.
Braverman, Bad Enoch what a choice 😂
"there's a lot of reflection to be had to ... look at where we went wrong" - it's bleedin' obvious mate!
All Starmer will have to do is point out the ones who supported and defended Johnson during partygate and they won't have a leg to stand on.
One half of the Uniparty has been sent packing. The other half is just a matter of time.
If Vickers wants to listen to what the people have told them why hasn't he bogged off?
Don't double cross us nigel
The problems were many and varied, but the analysis that they were "insufficiently conservative" presupposes that there is, somewhere, a consensus about what it means to be conservative. Historically, the One Nation conservatives are the ones in line with what the party has been for most of itse existence, but there are now several generations who were brought up thinking that Convervatism is Thatcherism (and a fairly stark, harsh version of Thatcherism at that, one which Thatcher herself might have balked at).
Everyone who says - and lots of them are going to say it over the next few months - that ther problem is insufficent conservatism will have their own idea of what that means and unless and until that can be resolved they're facing a long time in the wildnerness. And in general that is something that we should celebrate, it's just a shame that we have Farage's mob lurking in the wings as a reminder that awful as the Tories have been, there are options that are even worse...
Yes, but I don’t see any mention of the Islamist party being part of that worse option. They are being ignored, but they are the greatest danger to the freedoms of their country and indeed the wider western civilisation, if you blindly dismiss the threat, thinking that the Islamisation of the UK is not possible. Just take a look at the Lebanon, Iran (Formerly Persia) Syria, et al all formerly peaceful countries with a significant Christian population.
@@normansidey5258UK is 83% white British.
If the choice for Tory Party leader comes down to Badenoch, Braverman, or Farage, then the toxic Tories really are doomed.
Shuella or pretti same views as reform blame immigration never MP fault
£18 000000 a day of taxpayers' money to keep illegal immigrants will eventually destroy your party.
It is MPs fault… for doing nothing about immigration.
Now we need to build on the green belts.
the tory says they have to reflect... then when asked to reflect he still dodges lol
Feel so sorry for these Tories they have worked 'hard' for 14 years and these people have families to feed and Sky tv to pay for 🤣🙃
His only reflection is deciding which side to back to benefit him only. No reflection on the public's decision.
The 'man' has a GOVE dolly on his shelf and a picture on the wall that would suit a teenager's taste from Athena 1993! Wow...
Why did the Tories lose? BREXIT!!!!!!!!!!!! ("get Brexit done".... and GB got a deal, but lost the war)
They lost because of Johnson's incompetence and his lack of integrity. Followed by the Truss's wrecking machine and Sunak the banker.
Welcome Suella Braverman❤❤❤❤❤
If it’s any of those 3, its time to leave the country
Goodness gracious the Tories are lurching **even more** to the right! And Braverman talking about her Party's "idiotic" strategy: she was part of the problem with her culture war obsession and xenophobia!
Whats the point now. REFORM
It speaks to the obtuseness of the British public that not only did Braverman kept her seat comfortably but is in the running for Tory leader and potentially future prime minister.
If only the Labour and Lib Dem vote hadn’t been split and Braverman would have gone too
You have James. You have Democracy. And then, you have people who should NEVER be given a platform or voice!
Cruella/Suella/Patel - Wow they really didn’t learn the first time round - Ensures Starmer for the next 10 years. . .
Couldn't care less about the tories...
In my eyes Suella Braverman will
be the New Tory Leader.
She has what it takes.
Hope so, then it means more opposition for longer.
She's incompetent.
Even now, after theyve been smashed to pieces, torys still cant give a straight answer.
Didn't learn that at school, then attended the Tory school to hone their lying skills.
The rotten started with Johnson how he got rid of the Tory old guard proven lieher promises lots delved nothing but heart ache truss put the last nail in the coffin with her min budget you lot done everything possible move the broder on constituency
Braverman will take the Conservative party to the hard right ✅️ and park her tanks on Reform's lawn. I don't think that will have a huge appeal to the electorate.
Vickers is absolutely bonkers for thinking that Boris Johnson could have stayed on. He should never have been put in that position of Prime Minister at all!!!
Idea for the Tory leadership contest.
Squid Game.
Turnout=Unimportant!
Vote share=Unimportant!
Percentages =Unimportant.
LABOUR 🏆 WON !!! =Important
Boris was never told his victory was not a real victory. It only happens when labour win.,
I voted to get rid of conservatives and avoid reform.
So Labour got my vote but I would like to vote lib dem.
@@TheWebstaff
OK fair point but,,,, The one and only time the lib dems got a sniff of power the immediately abandoned every principle and promise ever made.
60% Of the country did not vote Labour
@@laviniaseyI did. 😂
Matt Vickers avoiding answering jounalists questions and not being straight with people is exactly what people hate about politicians. Keir Starmer is now looking like a PM we can all rely on and be proud of because he answers journalists questions in a straight, honest and respectful manner, judging by his first statements as PM yesterday. I don't think it matters who is the next Tory leader- Labour will likely win even more votes in the next election and the Tories will go the way of the Dodo.
I'm bullish on Braverman.
We have enough of the nasty party
Don’t forget the Even Nastier Party is now holding onto 5 seats, and Farridge will make as much trouble as he can- regardless of how damaging it is to the country.
@Lynnefromlyn he has no power
Nasty? To the English maybe.
Open arms and free cash for everyone else
@@LynnefromlynClueless.
They still don’t get it , we want an end to all the drama,division,hate ect , they need someone we haven’t seen before
Need to look elsewhere then that's a description of the Tory party will never change.
Bring on Bravermann, is the future
Pity they didn't get demolished into 4th place! After 14yrs, they still don't get why they lost...amazing!
Farage has finished the Tories.
Labour will be next. 😂
14% and 5 seats doesn't frighten anybody. The tories will get a new leader and start to win back Reform voters and labour have their solid base and a right wing party like Reform are no threat to a centre left thinking person or party.
@@royboy565 Really? Then why all the use of actors and smears if the far left extremists of Labour aren't terrified?
Almost 80% of the country didn't vote for Starmer and his bunch of incompetents.
How do you think they will react when the reality of Labour's lunacy bites them in their wallets over the next couple of years.
You people are deluded if you think you have a legitimate mandate.
All the angry non voters won't make the same mistake in not voting next time.
Farage, like Thanos is inevitable. 🤣
They lost the support years before the election, it just manifested in the lose of MPs at the election. The failure to improve the life of the average person caused this. They failed to improve the economy in a noticeable fashion, they failed to make people happy, they failed to reduce the count of food banks, they failed to deliver any promises. There is a theme to their time in parliament, and it begins with F.
" Democracy is a funny thing" lol
It doesn't matter who runs as head of the party , if they don't ALL AGREE 100% with each other . Some left ,some centre right and some goes along with anyone . They need to seperate .
Guys like this should never be able to be a politician. Just load of hot air with absolutely no substance
Ridiculous how he's hedging all his answers as though he has a political career worth defending. This is what people are sick of.
Why has Matt Vickers got such a smug face on on the current circumstances? Such contempt for voters, that was completely the wrong tone. Show some humility. Many will mever forget the nonsense 14 years.
Not delivering Brexit is what killed the Tories.
Set the rules, you mean shaft the members! By the time they get to vote their candidate of choice will have been 'weeded out' and they will be left with the Pointer Sister. Apologies to the Pointer Sisters.
Badenoch would be the best choice or Cleverly who isn’t that clever
"We find ourselves where we find ourselves"...very inciteful
You can rule out Nigel Farage. He doesn't want to be leader of a party he and his supporters destroyed. 🤣🤣
The country has already rejected the far right. Which part of that are the Tories struggling to understand?
I’m not expecting Nigel to actually stay, he’s got no power, and has to share what little he does with 4 other people,
Boring, boring ....
.....Is what Farage will say when he is presented with his first bit of constituent casework.
@@wonderfullife3108 oh yes, the moment that he realised that 1. This isn’t a media show, 2. He’s going to actually have to do work. 3. When he doesn’t actually have any power.
Clackton is going to elect someone else done next election, Nigel will be an embarrassment for them.