Central Powers Occupation Of Italy I THE GREAT WAR On The Road
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Indy takes a tour through the Museo della Battaglia Vittorio Veneto and explores the Central Powers occupation of Northern Italy and the set up for the famous Battle of Vittorio Veneto.
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"The first phase did not go as planned" every single battle in the Great War
Perphaps if we attack again the same way, it will have a different result.
No plan survives contact with the enemy...
When the first shot is fired . plans go to he'll in a handbasket. Looked what happened in ww2 with operation market GARDEN .
Sometimes the first phase goes as planned, and a hastily conceived second phase runs up against a wall of enemy machine guns
Wait, there was a plan? Said every general in the Great War.
Hey Indy, would it be possible to have a special on Harukichi Shimoi? He was a japanese who fought with the Italian Arditi and was nicknamed "The samurai of Piave" he earned the respect of his comrades and estabilished important japanese-Italian relations. Greetings from Italy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harukichi_Shimoi
Now _that_ is a story to hear!! Please Indy?
Wow, very interesting, dude
Interesting idea.
The Great War There is a lot of crazy guy in Italian Army, particularly in the Arditi, like Ettore Muti. I suggest a special for Gabriele D'Annunzio and maybe to read some of the beautiful hermeticism poetry of Giuseppe Ungaretti
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Muti?wprov=sfti1
Thanks for having me! It was a blast to meet you guys. Hope to see you soon.
Wonderful video. I'm Italian and I appreciated it very much. This channel is fantastic. Compliments for your communication skills.
Luigi Pazienza Sir how do you feel that your country had been holding ground for years?
Fire Power701 sir I feel very proud about it.
If only Conrad von Hotzendorf was here to see this.
I am
lol
If you've never read A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway you should. Some of this is discussed in that novel.
Ernest*
Thank you ; )
Ah, there´s nothing like a trip to the museum on a Saturday!
liedream casinosoul i live in germany its monday 😭
In Paris record shops are closed on Mondays, that´s NO FUN!
This channel is amazing and the quality has been consistent for all these years.
Want to thank Flo and Indy for all their hard work!
Best and most (underrated) channel on CZcams, hope you continue with something similar to this at the end of the year when WW1 has ended.
Underrated? 700k subs for a topical history channel is pretty epic imo. :)
@@ekstrajohnthose are rookie numbers, needs to be higher
1:48, lol it's a flying tank.
Just a reminder that might be useful going on: Vittorio Veneto has the accent on the first E, not the second, so it should be Vèneto. Seeing how much you guys care for every detail, I imagine you would like to get even pronounce right! Keep up the amazing work, and greetings from Milan!!!!
Awesome museum!! my family lived in the occupied zone, in a town called Latisana, Udine Province; although I dont know if they remained there when the Austrians came or fled during that year (probably the first thing, they were farmers so they needed their land and animals to subsist, and my great-grandfather was in the Italian Army..)
Some WW1 battles did go to plan, such as the 1918 Battle of Hamel with all objectives achieved within 90 minutes. Although using the lessons learnt across the earlier parts of the war and planned by General Monash.
Graeme Bray thats because Monash was a uppity colonial amateur rather than a professional.
No, it took them 93 minutes to achieve their objectives, Monash calculated it would take 90. Also, the creeping barrage hit advancing allied infantry, tanks designated to support the assault failed to arrive and in many places the barrage had not cut the wire or damaged enemy entrenchments.
Uppity maybe, but according to Field Marshall Montgomery, Monash was the best general in WW1, and the first person in 200 years to be knighted-in-the-field. Of course, he commanded the best allied troops in Europe.
Great War episodes on the road are always very interesting
1:43 That plane looks like something an eight year old boy would want to draw - wings, gotta have loads of wings, and lots and lots of guns all going off at once, and armour plating everywhere. That it was done by adults as propaganda, and possibly even worked on people in the early years of flight who'd never seen a real aircraft, is absolutely fantastic.
Ciao Guys, sorry but general blamed for Caporetto defeat was Badoglio, commander of XXVII corps in front of Tolmin bridgehead. Caviglia was leading the Bainsizza plateau sector, further south than Tolmin. Caviglia was actually an hero since he conquered bainsizza plateau during XI battle of Isonzo
RE: 1:26-1:32
There were more barriers to communication than just literacy. At this point in history, Italy had only been unified for about 50 years. This is significant; prior to unification, the territory that is now Italy consisted of over a dozen mostly related but largely unintelligible languages. Throughout the 20th century, these were largely supplanted by standard Italian (a variant of the Tuscan language). However, in the 1910s, the use of other Italian languages was still widespread. Since each of these languages had its own writing system, it is equally possible that many people who were literate in their own language were unable to read standard Italian, which these documents were written in.
TL;DR: Language barriers within Italy at the time probably necessitated pictorial representations of events at least as much as literacy rates.
What kind of drink have you had my friend? Ever heard of a guy named DANTE? His Italian is 90% understandable today to us. After 800 years, since he lived in the 1200's.... So much for " in the 1910s, the use of other Italian languages was still widespread. Since each of these languages had its own writing system"...
Maskwasit
Are you serious? Really?
Intersting story. I have a question when this year ends what would this channel’s future would lead?
WW2
Well, peace treaty between the waring countries wasn't signed untill 1919. Plus the Russian Civil War.
Indy shall return in 2039 for ww2 lmao
IDK :3 support Indy in the project involving WW2, it seems it will have colaborations with many YT channels covering fronts and other stuff.
Peace treaty was signed in july 1919
The Spanish Flu
The Russian Civil War
The Russian Polish War
The occupation of the Rurh by Belgium and France
The Ottoman empire falling apart
China signed a separate peace treaty with Germany in 1921
The first 5 years after november 1918 saw so much happening because of the Great War.
"No plan survives the first contact intact."
-Murphy's Laws of Combat
moosemaimer That quote actually comes from Field Marshall Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (1800-1891).
Been waiting for this one. Met "The Great War" crew in the museum. Really nice folks, and went to lunch with them afterwards. So far my best experience while I work in Europe.
Great episode as usual, the museum seems awesome, I definitely need to visit it! Glad you came to my country! Greetings from Italy!
Also in my city, Caorle, on the coast of the Adriatic Sea about 20 km away from Venice, the Austrian-Hungarians took the bells of the main church to be fused in some canoons. Legends say these canoons were found one the Italian army defeated the occupators and then again fused in the bells still present today in the church tower. But this is a legend we like to belive in
"Rosso del sangue del nemico altero il Piave comandò: "INDIETRO VÀ STRANIERO""
Andrea Favero Non passa lo straniero!
@@pablo-dg3jz53 il canto del Piave ha più di una sola strofa, eh? ;)
Indy you rock 🎸 !!! Thank you for this VIP guided tour of this fabulous museum !!!
museo fantastico!!! abito a soli 10 km! bravo
Fascinating! Thank you! What a refreshing style you have!
Really cool video about the town where I was born. My great-grandfather was in the Army. I never met him and all I have of him is a picture. I wish I could have had a talk with him about those years and all he went through
Great video and great museum, been there two month ago and there aren't many museum which explains so well the occupation, it has also a nice collection of firearms and memorablia like the flag of a MAS of the "Beffa di Buccari" (the one ruined you see at 8:28) and also othe flags of the allied force. It's also beautiful the room of the maps that you show, I find it particular interesting because they're original of the time.
2:46 this happened also in empire original territories, after the war, italy provide new bells by melting captured austria hungary artillery
1:45 "Nobody ever saw this plane," but now we know where Steampunk comes from.
I was in Veneto in 2018 and 2019 but hadn't seen this episode yet so I didn't know about this museum. :\ La prossima volta.
. . . And that folks, is how we met and fell in love with pizza.
Oslo MGTOW fellow MGTOW
Cultists^
Pizza? at that time, only polenta was eaten up there.
🤦♂️
back then, pizza was know only around Naples, not in North Italy
I think the Central Powers have this.
Don't spoil the ending tho.
Pich Ofir' Aviyah How can he spoil something that hasn’t happened yet?
This channel definitely deserves the Patreon support. Everybody who can should consider contributing.
2:32 You mean... Austria-Hungry? Badum tsss
EDIT:Sorry I had to do it.
This is a very important question, i hope it get some answers.
Hey Indy, do you ever chance your clothes? just curious..
Of course he does. Didn't you see the episode about his enormous closet full of waistcoats and white shirts? The closet of repetition.
does he have anything different?
Well, in the episode he does mention that one of the waistcoats is a slightly lighter shade of grey.
I think he only changes his Hötzendorf and Mackensen socks
What Anglomachian said, Indy is a cartoon character.
Oh man! I lived in the Veneto for a year, and I never visited this museum. Thanks for showing it to me: I'll check it out next time I'm around.
“No operation extends with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the main body of the enemy.”
-Moltke The Elder
I like how the drawing of that plane gives it armored turrets and room walk through but it has small bicycle wheels.
This is one of the best, most concise, on the road visits so far. The cemetery was certainly more emotional but this seems much more in keeping with the rest of the channel. I so look forward to coverage of WW 2.
What you can achieve under time pressure.
Been here last summer, very well done museum!
Hi guys! Nice show! I was wondering if you can show the locations on a map depicting the country and area you are discussing. Many times I'm scratching my head wondering where you are talking about. Just a thought
Angelo is the man!
Small note, Veneto is accentuated on the first e, not the second. Cheers.
Great war history channel. Very interesting information about the battles of the war.
Hi I from South Korea and I always enjoy your video. Please can you make video about Korea war? Please...anyway I always got a lots of information here Thanks
I think they have on their other channel, this channel is specifically for ww1
It's on "It's History" channel. Go look it up dude!
They made a video about the Korean War here: czcams.com/video/tmM2Y275TR0/video.html
Well I just asking...
Harry S. Plinkett Thanks^^
If Austria was so Hungary, they should've just invaded Turkey
Ok, I'll leave now
In Vittorio Veneto there was the Austrian head quarters, where the last fighting occurred I guess before the hasburgic army disintegrated in a mass of men who tried desperately to reach home, stalked by the Italian army (with some allied division aside, just a few, 6 I guess, and an American regiment, the rest, 50 divisions or so was Italians.), and before the battle didn't have Vittorio in his name I guess. But the battle take that name because there was the enemy head quarter there
4:39 "Neamul Romanesc" lol If you would have zoomed there i would have been able to translate it all 😅.
And it would be awesome if you would make a video about the Romanian Legions in Italy !
I love this video because he's so genuinely enthusiastic about touring the museum!
Great museum to see, Indy! Welcome, Angelo!
Atrocities? I'll admit to eating babies in Belgium but I'd never take away a man's horse.
Also, the furniture!!!
"the first phase did not go as planned"
Famous last words in every war that was ever fought .
You guys should've done a special on the man who replaced Cadorna. Because Iv'e heard some great things about him and the great effect he had on morale. But oh well. Great job.
" the first phase did not go as planned". While I agree with your feelings that this summed up the entire Great War, for the most part, I'd suggest April 9th, 1917 was an exception, as was Messine Ridge, and for the most part, the last 100 days, at least for the Canadian Corps.
I also have photocopies of 2 proclamations, signed by General Diaz, announcing the cessation of hostilities and the end of the war. They were mementos saved by my grandfather, who served in the Italian army during World War I
Entante armies fighting in Northern Italy in 1918 were multi national. Interesting. Just like 15th Army Group of Allies fighting to liberate Northern Italy in 1943-1945 during Italian Campaign of World War 2
Not really. There were only 3 British divisions, 2 french divisions and 1 czechoslovak and US division (kept in reserve). The only two foreign commanders were Jean César Graziani, leading the 12th Franco - Italian army and Rudolph Lambart, 10th Earl of Cavan leading the 10th British - Italian army. The rest of the commanders were all italian.
Yet as always the allies of Italy carried the team.
wat
@@peterjerman7549 You forget that a couple of Italian divisions were transfer to France to help them out in 1918.
The Germans smashed British units using the same tactics as they used in Italy.
I hope you guys got more footage there!
I'd be very interested in more of this museum!
Thanks
'Why are all the Refugees Young Men?'
1917 Edition
Because they were the ones most likely to be killed by the invaders. They are also the ones to join the army and return to fight back against the invaders.
They had to actually fight a war, they were not looking for economic benefits. They fled in order to fight back for their land.
May I add that it was also their own country their fleeing to, right?
There's actually Dutch xenophobes crying about Belgian refugees claiming the Netherlands is full and can't take any refugees.
....When we had around 3 million inhabitants.
....Now at 17 million inhabitants, and the same xenophobes are still saying the same nonsense.
Blah b it isn't nonsense
"Did not go as planned". Classic understatement if there ever was on.
I am always surprised that museums let you film their exhibits. Usually, museums do not allow this. No point in going to this museum anymore, you covered it. Thanks!
There is much, much, much more to see in this museum, definitely worth a visit.
This is most interesting .I've read about the western front hardly anything about the Italian front.
Very nice video, well recorded and just interesting all around. Good job!
Great on the road video, the museum looks very interesting!
Great video. I have a question. Do you plan bio episodes about profesor Masaryk ,general Štefánik and dr. Beneš? Or do you plan just one to cover all three?
Where can I order my T-Shirt "The first phase did not go as planned" ?
With some pictures from the Schlieffen plan, the Dardanelles, Przemyśl, Verdun, ...
They really got scared by the Bosniaks xD
fun fact. Austrian soldiers put fezzes on their bayonets to scam the Italian soldiers so they would think this were the Bosniak troops, which were very aggressive, feared by the allied armies, strong and gave a hard resistance.
Not a unique experience. The British during the Falklands war terrified the Argentines by spreading the rumour that the Gurkhas were on the way.
Agreed, the 3rd Bosniaks were probably the most decorated unit of any side during the way. The regiment won 48 Goldene Tapferkeits medaillen, the equivalent of the VC/ Legion d'Honneur etc
Uncle of my grandfather was a commandant of a Bosniak sturmbataillon, or stormtroopers battalion (he was a Slovenian though), his uniform and medals are in some Belgian museum. The Bosniaks troops were a real terror for Italians, they would often charge with knifes in their mouths - holding them with their teeth. Slovenes were also very though fighters on Soča (Isonzo) front because we were defending our homes.
The Bosnians were seen as cutthroats, not soldiers, this was the image of propaganda.
@@valentinbabuder6221 The Italian special unit Arditi were known for holding their "resolza" knieves in their mouth during charge not some unimportant for the war bosniak rapists who behind the front were stealing eggs and milk from villagers.
Question for out of the trenches I notice on German solders they have large cylinders on there backs can you explain what they were used for love the show good job Indie and crew say hi to Flo for me.
So, will there be ever a special about Ernest Hemingway? I think now is the perfect time to do so.
there will be but not very soon.
Theres no actual link to Cadornas bio
I know, and I was really disappointed he was only allowed to fight eleven battles of the Isonzo River. I'm sure he had at least a few more in him before his untimely and premature removal from command.
I'm sure he'd have cracked it with the 12th one.
Adam Snook They did crack it with the twelfth, but not the Italians.
Excellent excellent segment once again. Love me some field trips! One of your viewer's asked about the older men being occupied and the younger men fleeing I believe. So why did they leave? Cowards or leaving to reform and what happened to them.
Excellent presenter and very knowledgeable
the line that Indy pointed out 7:45. Is total war in a Nutshell and Modern today
My great-great-grandfather was in the First World War I, on the Italian front - Hungarian star, his name was Antonio, a pity that my mother did not tell me much about him. I guess it would be exhausting to have to climb hills every time
Ok, i saw enough of ur videos, i finally subscribe!
Have you ever considered doing a video on experimental weapons such as the Tsar Tanks or the German K-wagen?
More I see on this channeling the more I am convinced that half the problems layed in the fact that you had men in charge who where using set peace battle tactics with advanced weapons eg tactics hadn't caught up with the advance in weapons and industry plus communications yes we had the telephone but not any wireless radio (well not till to late in the war) so breakthroughs or advances stalled because information gathering wasn't being relayed quick enough through the correct channels in time to halt or advance the troops at the front. I'm expecting that's one of the reasons why the German March offensive failed. Anyway sorry waffling on again. Great show guys keep it up.
Could you make a video about Ukraine to 100 anniversary of its independence? Please.
The translator guy is the most Italian translator who have ever Italian
CASSETTA MEDICAA!
Is that a motherfucking bf1 reference?
yes, it is
No medics will come though the people using that class just want to use the rifles and not do the actual job
More like grenade rifle
Great episode!
Indy has a hangover.
"The first phase did not go as planned." Dear lord that's chilling.
It's a shame the exhibit lighting was unfavourable to filming and washed out so much. But I felt that was made up by such an exquisitely large and detailed map of the area.
Hello Indy and team, love your show! I'm planning to write an essay regarding the technological and medical advancements during both World Wars. You've already explained how Fritz Haber, even if a bit controversial in his personal views and creations, pretty much "saved" post-war society with the Haber-Bosch process. Are there any more noteworthy inventions or technological prototypes (during the Great War) that laid the foundation for future projects? I'll greatly appreciate any help I can get and I wish you and your channel good luck.
Hey I have a question. My great-great grandfather I think that's right, pretty sure at least James "my last name" he was called. Anyway he was part of the North Irish horse when the war broke out he came from County Londonderry so I assume he joined there. Anyway he served in France he did survive the war but I heard all these from my grandfather so I'm a bit fuzzy on them. He was however deployed as part of the BEF in France near the start of the war and I'd like to know. At the start of the war when it was more mobile cavalry was used with charges and other associated effected tactics against machine guns. But as the war progressed and the front lines were set in stone where cavalry regiments used more as infantry or even converted to that role whilst keeping the title of a horse regiment? Also was it seen as more prestigious to be part of a cavalry unit than to be part of the infantry at that time? I would like to know and great show associated people really like listening about the people and actions during the war from anywhere.
Weapons from not just the Italians, but from the Austrians and the Hungarians too
Love the show. Could you make a video about Rupprecht?
Like von Moltke the elder said: No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
Hi Indy and team, I was wondering if any of you knew which specific languages made up those fifteen versions of the Austro Hungarian national anthem. I can't get past ten, though these are all main languages in recognised countries today. Were certain dialects recognised as well?
Enjoying the show, cheers guys
"The first phase did not go as planned" did anyone else heard that in Morgan Freeman's voice?
there will be more episodes analyzing parts of WWI even more then onto other wars or even other topics
“If you’re ever in the neighborhood” yeah... well if I suddenly come upon a modest amount of money I’d love to go to some museums all over Europe but sadly I don’t have a few thousand laying around and probably never will.
Love your videos! WW1 is probably my favorite war to learn about!
Is there an episode on the Polar Bear Expedition? That’s a interesting piece of history.
Those "Domenica della Gazzetta" ilustrations actuually miicked the Domenica del Corriere ones. Domenica del Corriere was a weekly newspaper associated to Corriere della Sera, the main Italian newspaper. So, besides being attractive to a largely illiterate mass, it was also somewhat of a tradition.
This is especially interesting considering that the territory occupied from 1917-18 was ruled by Austria some 50 years ago before Italian unification. I wonder how did the old people in the area, who may have lived when the territory was part of the Austrian empire react to the return of Austrian rule
i wish i knew you were in italy
we can only make so many video announcements.
"the first phase did not go as planned"; my life story
It is beyond strange hearing Indy talk quietly, lol. Great video though!
Anyone else notice that the plane pictured in the newspaper is effectively a flying Mark IV tank?
5:23 I'd like to point out a mistake: The name of the commander is wrong, the correct name is Otto von Above.