L Systems : Creating Plants from Simple Rules - Computerphile

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  • čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
  • From simple rules, complex 'organisms' can emerge. PhD candidate Zachariah Garby has been studying the papers to find out what it's all about.
    This was formerly called: Digital Plants (L-Systems)
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Komentáře • 80

  • @georgetownsend1479
    @georgetownsend1479 Před 2 měsíci +77

    Props to the presenter for breaking down L systems in such an accessible way - he did a great job explaining the concept and its applications. Super interesting stuff!

  • @raedev
    @raedev Před 2 měsíci +6

    I have been waiting for more procedural generation-centric computerphile videos for like 10 years, glad to see something so actively close to it! making things out of randomnes and simple rules is so fun, it's why it's my specialty when it comes to programming: it's just so much fun to tweak one value and see something completely different, but very much of the same type, all coming from *pure randomness*.

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 Před 2 měsíci +48

    I have a copy of "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" by Przemyslaw Prusinkiewicz and Aristid Lindenmayer. It was my introduction to L-Systems. It's a prize book in my collection of esoteric books.
    [edit] I just checked and found a PDF copy on the Internet Archive.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Před 2 měsíci +5

      See... sometimes youtuber comments are actually a educational gold mine... things like that have molded how I see the world better, sometimes aiding me see ahead of future markets. Cheers.

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@dertythegrower Sadly I had to check that my comment wasn't deleted/hidden by the overlords who's aim seems to be preventing the dissemination of information unless it's curated by them.

    • @rdf256
      @rdf256 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That book is underrated. It led me to write L-system parsers in Perl back in the day, Perl being well suited for such things (and not much else 😉).

  • @andrewharrison8436
    @andrewharrison8436 Před 2 měsíci +10

    That's strangely satisfying.
    I thought "Cow Parsley" quite early on but the final drawing was beyond my expectation.

  • @0x1F9F1
    @0x1F9F1 Před 2 měsíci +16

    The first of hopefully many videos from Zac "Monad" Garby!

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 Před 2 měsíci +1

      So you know how L-systems form a monad…..

  • @leobattle9489
    @leobattle9489 Před 2 měsíci +24

    PhD candidate Zachariah Garby 🗣🔥

  • @theloremaster9544
    @theloremaster9544 Před 2 měsíci +10

    This is a very cool subject! One time I booped Zac’s snoot with a medieval bopper. The lil scratchy is part of my legacy and you can see it on his nose in this video

  • @fiskebent
    @fiskebent Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great presentation. It reminded me of some of the (non-plant) fractal curves that can be generated by line segment substitution. Like the Hilbert curve and Koch curve.

  • @GilesBathgate
    @GilesBathgate Před 2 měsíci +8

    Seems like plants are Turing complete. Next question, does it run doom?

    • @neilbru
      @neilbru Před 2 měsíci +1

      And then, as is tradition, "But can it run Crysis?"

  • @rachel_rexxx
    @rachel_rexxx Před 2 měsíci +3

    One of discrete math's real world applications (in biology). Neat.

  • @yaseminyilmaz1648
    @yaseminyilmaz1648 Před 2 měsíci +7

    There goes my hero

  • @user-eu2bd6ht1q
    @user-eu2bd6ht1q Před 2 měsíci +4

    I ❤ ZMG and I ❤ Cow Parsley. Want more of him

  • @dkgndianko
    @dkgndianko Před 2 měsíci

    This reminds me the project we had in Algorithms at the end of the second semester my first year at university. It was amazing to draw L-system simulations using Pascal programming language.

  • @harriehausenman8623
    @harriehausenman8623 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great topic well presented! Please more about L-Systems, grammars and generalisations of it! 🤗

  • @Meuszik
    @Meuszik Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video!

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver Před 2 měsíci +2

    Brilliant!

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Před měsícem +1

    Could this link to cell signaling during development?

  • @sanamorii
    @sanamorii Před 2 měsíci +10

    garby sweep

  • @mulad
    @mulad Před 2 měsíci

    Reminds me of playing around with tree shapes in Fractint back in the '90s

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Před měsícem +1

    Is this process reversible?

  • @markwilliams2192
    @markwilliams2192 Před 2 měsíci +4

    zac garby 🔛🔝 fp lab sweep

  • @kaushaltimilsina7727
    @kaushaltimilsina7727 Před 2 měsíci

    These "formal rewrite systems", is what they have been working on at Wolfram Physics Project.

  • @edupe6185
    @edupe6185 Před 2 měsíci

    This guy seems so nice!

  • @dru6809
    @dru6809 Před 2 měsíci

    Very cool

  • @dragolov
    @dragolov Před 2 měsíci

    Respect!

  • @ishanbhatt6067
    @ishanbhatt6067 Před 2 měsíci

    Lovely

  • @markjfannon
    @markjfannon Před 2 měsíci

    the king

  • @LegendHD
    @LegendHD Před měsícem

    спасибо

  • @YuTv1408
    @YuTv1408 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Maybe thats why San Jose is called The Silicon Valley. . Not the Bilogy Valley. But you preffer to have cells versus electrons in your iphones. I guess Biology is greater than materials science also right.

  • @flamingpi2245
    @flamingpi2245 Před 2 měsíci +1

    We just learned about L systems in a programming class

  • @NocturnalJin
    @NocturnalJin Před 2 měsíci +3

    I didn't think we were allowed to say KACBCAK on CZcams.

    • @orcu
      @orcu Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah, it is about growing plants. Jokes aside L-Systems were available in very early Houdini versions and were used for plant generation in movies

  • @lilb07
    @lilb07 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is this related to fractal geometry?

    • @yesterdaysrose5446
      @yesterdaysrose5446 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's at very least in the same vein of iterative generation techniques.
      I'm pretty sure L-systems were included in the fractal generator I used back in the day (Fractint, I think?)

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It totally is, yeah. These trees are fractal in nature, and you can also generate your standard fractals (Hilbert curves, Sierpinski striangles, etc etc) using L-systems. I've got some nice examples of this in the code listed in the description if you're interested.

  • @play005517
    @play005517 Před 2 měsíci

    it remindes me of parsing and an EBNF grammar looks like an L-system.

  • @PrinceBrosnan
    @PrinceBrosnan Před měsícem

    🌷

  • @amywyvern3924
    @amywyvern3924 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video. That reminds me the I first time I coded a tree shape in LOGO 🐢 (memories). It made me want to learn more about fractals and programming languages.

  • @mp_rho
    @mp_rho Před 2 měsíci +2

    looks just like grammars up until you start associating characters with little drawings

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yup! They're essentially context-free grammars except you make all rule substitutions simultaneously.

  • @Amonimus
    @Amonimus Před 2 měsíci

    These shapes can get quite complicated, but the rules are simple, so it's not unlikely seed/fetus cells work this way.

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 Před 2 měsíci

    The amoeba logo and L instantly made me think Debian Linux.

  • @nicksamek12
    @nicksamek12 Před 2 měsíci

    14:20 reminds me of arabidopsis

  • @MusicMadtm
    @MusicMadtm Před 2 měsíci +3

    leaves are cool but phd candidate zachariah garby is cooler

  • @MichaelPiz
    @MichaelPiz Před 2 měsíci

    Read _A New Kind of Science_ by Stephen Wolfram. He takes simple recursive "machines" like this to amazing places, including considering whether nature actually implements such rules.

  • @saiello2061
    @saiello2061 Před 2 měsíci

    I now know what L-Systems are about 😁.

  • @FrohnJusciante
    @FrohnJusciante Před 2 měsíci

    So A=B and C=D? Why not using the same name or am I missing something? Great video though

    • @zacgarby3113
      @zacgarby3113 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Thank you!
      While A and B are rendered in the same way, they map to different sequences, so play different structural/developmental roles.

  • @MazinManCW
    @MazinManCW Před 2 měsíci

    Took an L system last night in twisted towers

  • @theanttman
    @theanttman Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ummm... where is the brown paper?

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges Před 2 měsíci

    Looks exactly like cow-parsley.

  • @user-hd3pz2ow1b
    @user-hd3pz2ow1b Před 7 dny

    interesting

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 Před 2 měsíci

    3:59 so, we in greek now?
    alp, bet, 'c', del, kap ?

  • @plutoh28
    @plutoh28 Před 2 měsíci

    more like a W system

  • @MatthewatCourseCareers
    @MatthewatCourseCareers Před 2 měsíci

    Hey Computerphile - We sent you an email about a paid partnership. Let me know what you think.

  • @ptousig
    @ptousig Před 2 měsíci

    Your clock is broken.

  • @ethangold4900
    @ethangold4900 Před 2 měsíci +1

    L-systems? More like W-systems

  • @Monothefox
    @Monothefox Před 2 měsíci

    Sponsored by Office Depot.

  • @monkeybarmonkeyman
    @monkeybarmonkeyman Před 2 měsíci +1

    So funny... who makes the rules eh?

  • @pyroMaximilian
    @pyroMaximilian Před 2 měsíci

    The oddly-skewed, perspective-corrected segments were painful for me to watch. May I humbly ask that you kindly forgo that effect in future videos? Thank you.

  • @jacobgarby199
    @jacobgarby199 Před 2 měsíci +10

    first

  • @YuTv1408
    @YuTv1408 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Biology is walk in the park compared to computer science. Anyone can regurgitate information. Few can interpret and really understand it.( like math, physics, cs and engineering).

    • @jacobgarby199
      @jacobgarby199 Před 2 měsíci +10

      what are you on about

    • @PRIMARYATIAS
      @PRIMARYATIAS Před 2 měsíci +2

      Check computational biology and you will see how far more complex biology is compared to Math, CS, EE, ME,etc… (research in this field actually fuses those disciplines together).

    • @yaseminyilmaz1648
      @yaseminyilmaz1648 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Goofy take

    • @mp_rho
      @mp_rho Před 2 měsíci +3

      should've ended with "Biology is walk in the park compared to computer science." the statement was true up until this point. in a literal sense.

    • @YuTv1408
      @YuTv1408 Před 2 měsíci

      NPC_morons get upset when you tell the truth hu? Computational Biology is No Longer just Biology. NOTHING IS HARDER THAN Math or Physics people!!!