Cool New RC Car But There’s a Catch
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2024
- This is the new pinecone models sg 1201 pro.
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A 1/12th scale mini monster truck which is 3s ready, brushless, fast, well built and affordable.. Or is it?
This truck costs £181 or $228 which means it falls into ARRMA Gorgon territory or ARRMA Mega 4x2 territory.
Going for a well known brand does have its benefits which we will discuss in the video and arguably the better option compared to this.
If this was priced closer to £150 I think it may be a better option but at the current pricing and not even including a battery I think it's just a little too expensive.
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It performs great and is a lot of fun on 3s making use of that wheelie bar but is it worth the price tag?
Let me know in the comments what you think of the Pinecone 1201 pro.
See you on the next one!
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4) HBX 2996A - www.banggood.com/HBX-HAIBOXIN...
5) WLTOYS 144010 - uk.banggood.com/Wltoys-144010...
6) MJX HYPER GO BRUSHLESS - uk.banggood.com/MJX-16207-1-o...
7) WLTOYS 124008 - www.banggood.com/Wltoys-12400...
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A very good effort by Pinecone models but the catch is definitely the price. At £181 this is around the same cost as the ARRMA 4x2 Mega range and the Gorgon. Yes its quicker than the bigger branded cheaper options but there is more to an RC car than speed. Let me know your thoughts! 💯😎👍
Totally agree mate 👍
Hear hear. Chinese RC Rigs used to be pretty cheap but now pretty expensive, I’d rather save up and get something a whole lot better.
i love how you didn't make us wait until the end to tell us the catch
so I watched the whole video
It looks a good package overall. But I'm just wondering when MJX are going to do abit bigger trucks. I think if they stick to their build quality. They would be on to a winner. Great honest review. 😊
i hope we see something bigger from MJX,
Aren't they releasing a large 1/8 scale crawler any day now? I'd think they'll follow suit and start offering larger bashers also. I hope so at least
@@boduke9428 correct but I’m referring to a larger monster truck for example. The crawler is coming I believe. Would be nice to see a larger vehicle aimed at everyday bashing
@@beyondRC I think they will. DEERC has a 10th scale, Haiboxing does I believe, with the Rlaarlo Omni Terminator coming next week I think it's inevitable. I do think the crawler first was smart. Especially with Rlaarlo releasing their big crawler soon. If those two can keep the prices in check I think they're gonna cause problems for the big brands. Especially Traxxasss, since they seem allergic to new models. I'm not even acknowledging that snap on joke of a new release even exist.
Here in the states I’ve noticed the cheap cars are increasing in price on Amazon. Still some good buys out there on slightly older models.
The middle ground on RC is definitely dangerous marketing territory !
Great vid as usual 👍🏼
For sure thanks man 😎👍
This is just a rebranded udirc 1201 / 1202. In my experience the problems are with the diffs failing quick due to not being shimmed, mine failed on the brushed model that I reviewed over a year ago. Wasn't until I converted it to brushless and opened up the diff casings I saw broken gears. Parts for the udirc branded one are extremely hard to find as well, not sure about pinecone though. Also for the price no batteries or charger? Ridiculous. Besides the careless diff issue the rest of the truck is reasonably built.
It's the other way around. UDIRC is a rebrand of Pinecone RC.
absolutely Dave and I agree parts are hard to find. Most people will buy cars like this providing parts are accessible. At this price point I cant help but feel the Gorgon or Mega 4x2 range will be better with a mild brushless system further down the line. Cheers mate
a lot of these cars are rebrands of a rebrand of a rebrand hahaha!!
@@FarmerFpv all these China RC companies rebrand these cars and trucks, the popular MJX Hyper Go is a good example of being rebranded multiple times from DeeRC, Bezgar, Hosim, EazyRC just to name a few, I know there are a few more! In regards to this particular model, I disagree as udirc released these models over a year ago whilst pinecone model has just released it now. Parts even now a year later are very hard to find!
Hablo español y he visto todo tu video con subtítulos, gracias porque no hiciste esperar hasta el final del video para decirnos cuál era la trampa, aún así he visto el video completo.
Compre el mío en Aliexpress y aún lo estoy esperando, el precio me pareció algo elevado pero después de leer las características del vehículo me convencieron de comprarlo, estaré comentando los detalles cuando lo reciba.
Another good, honest review, Ricky, thanks for the efforts you always put into informing us all!
My pleasure!
That is ridicules, I have been watching the prices and shipping charges and I think I done buying the cheap junk. I will just get parts for what I have now. The hbx 2996a or the 2997a are great units with a center diff I have an older hbx unit that the 2996a is built off and it is super durable and I upgraded to brushless. Also I bought the Arrma Big rock for 350 Canadian off Amazon and it is 1000 times better. This unit comes in at 300. Forget it. Glad you feel the same way as us! Love the vids!
It better be it costs 700 plus, depends on what one is going for which can be highy exclusive
The Big Rock 3s for Canada I picked it up for 349.99, which is like 300 US so almost the same price as this.
Theres pros and cons for me, doesnt come with battery and charger not a problem to me (can see why it would be for some), unlike the arrma 4x2 it has metal diffs (arrmas are expensive) and its brushless whereas the 4x2 is brushed, this one has seperate receiver just in case, but then again arrma has big brand parts availability (well actually... its hard for me to get parts from arrma, it always says part unavailable), but then arrma larger scale rc. So to each is own judgement
The gorgon however is really good in terms of performance since its 4s capable transmission (heard people put higher than that)
I would go for good parts support and availability.
I like how it's a monster truck and also the rims and tires look really nice
Great vid keep going on.
Car looks very good.
I still like the jlb cheetah but now it is expensive.
Thanks! 👍
The problem is the (lack of) marketing. The rlaarlo omni is gonna be a lot more money for something similar but will be praised anyway.
Rlaarlo aims at the west but I think Udirc/Pinecone don't care too much. Remember there are 1000 million of chinese so their local market is huge already. Plus no shipping charges.
Also, here in Japan I got this for something like 170 usd, while even the lower end arrma have no distributor and are like 200+ for the most basics. This gets close to the 3S line which is like 450 usd (if you find them)
So, well, it depends on each ones circunstancies 😊
Of course it always depends on easy of access to parts and peoples budgets. Cheers
With the price they're out of their minds, having said that it would be nice to see a durability test between some of the top Chinese cars in the scale range and some of the best name brand cars. Also like going over the cars comparing things like diffs, drive shaft thickness/strength and seeing what you get in comparison for the money. (Just an idea)
Liking the beefy looking under carriage.. Should be a battery and charger for that price atleast ...great vid
for sure or drop the price to £150/$160
Totally agree with you Ricky , unfortunately there has been a dramatic price increase with the Chinese made RCs , but no real innovation to allow the increase to be justified.
What someone needs to do it design something from the ground up in a 1/10th in said market and stop replying on exhausting previous designs .
I would agree with parts are always worth looking at .
Good video buddy
Stay awesome
Chris 🤙
100% mate and we are seeing good innovation from the guys at Rlaarlo. Their new Omni-Terminator looks promising and is of their own unique design for around the same money as this. I have one of the way so stay tuned for that review! Cheers mate have a good one!
I like it. 👏👍
I will choose Gorgon instead, then upgrade step by step
I dont think that's a bad idea...
You can get similar,plus battery and charger for less 👍🏴
I agree it's a bit pricey for that size and brand but a 3660 brushless motor in a 12th scale is something I never saw before, considering this I think the price is OK. At 3000kv it's optimized on 4s with an esc swap (that would make it ''overpowered'').
They also have a cheaper brushed version and I found parts easily doing my little research on it (of course there's a 1 month shipping time delay).
One thing I noticed is that it looks like there's a lot of weight up high and that's a bummer for drivability imo. Good review again keep it up!👍 I really like that you go over more obscure and new unpopular models. There's a hidden gem somewhere waiting to be discovered. 😉
On that note I also saw the sg1403 for around 100usd with a brushed 550 and it got me interested it looks similar to a 1/14th wltoys underneath but seem to be completely different. I would love to see what you think about it.
A "cheap Chinese car" asking for a higher price isn't a big deal imo, means they're trying to reach into a more premium market, however, makes no sense reaching for there and it doesn't live up to the price.
As for parts for me personally, Arrma, Traxxas, Wltoys, Rlaarlo, regardless of who I purchase from I have to wait 2 to 3 weeks anyway 😅
Once it's available, and the car performs within that price bracket, it's a win for me
price doesnt equate premium. Axial scx24 is $125, fms is also similar, same with kyosho miniz, all very hobbygrade with upgrades raising the price by alot.
The best quality products at each price point is what these rc reviewers are for.
For that kind of money, I'd buy a ZD Racing DBX-10.
Well I can only speak for myself, but yeah price and easy work ability, if it costs to much or just a pain to get fixed for any reason then yeah I will pay more for easy upgrade path and no I'm not a fan boy of any brand I just like a good tough RC I can work on.
yeah send it!
Nice review.. looks like every bit of a $160 truck but with a battery.
agreed :)
For the price, I think there are a lot of better options out there.
I have to agree and most are ready to run with a battery
Thoughts on the new rlaarlo Omni terminator? Carbon fibre model looks insane and much better value for money coming in at 250usd but I also won a 50$ stackable coupon, should I pull the trigger when presale starts? Great video
i have one on the way.. stay tuned!
@@beyondRC reckon you could get it reviewed around the pre sales date? Will definitely be keeping watch for the vid.
@@currynuts8843 as soon as it arrives i will have the review sorted :)
Does it have a slipper clutch or a center diff?
no!
@@beyondRC Definitely not worth it then. Direct drive Chinese junker's aren't even worth 150$.
You still consider the 144001 to be the top choice for a cheap RC? Still sold where I live for about €85. Maybe I should pull the trigger 🤔
i think the brushless brother is better these days the 144010 but the 144001 is still a very good little buggy as long as you can get it cheap. Lots of spares and mods around
Is this better than hbx 901a?
I dont think so. I love the 901a and although this is larger and more versatile with its bigger wheels I think I would pick the hbx.
FTX are looking pretty good about now.! 😉 😉
I think so too!
Unfortunately they have almost zero parts availability outside the uk ☹️ been looking and asking forever on that
I would consider it as good option if it came with a charger and a 2500mAh 3s lipo. 1:12 with a gyro which seems to work well. But as it is: too expensive.
for sure.
hey when are the boats back on the channel
its winter here in the UK but in the summer i will try and do boat week or something haha
@@beyondRC i bought a boat yesterday!
needed to have it
euh boat? its a udirc jetski
If it came with a battery and a charger with that price people would probably buying it all day long. But since it don't come with the battery and a charger I think people are going to let this thing alone. The people who will be buying this don't struggle with money I'm going to tell you that much.
I don’t understand how this is too expensive at the same price of the Gorgon and Arrma boost. Both of which are brushed, 2WD, no lights, all plastic and the bodies are known to not last, while this one has body protection, it’s brushless, sweet lights and is 4WD. Love your reviews and will continue to watch but I disagree on this one. I think it’s well worth it
that's fine and i fully appreciate that but as mentioned in the video cheap Chinese RC cars where just that.. Cheap. This is not cheap and spares will not be readily available compared to the Arrma cars. I may be wrong but anyone with a £200 budget will favour a well known brand.
Yeah like I said someone that don't worry about money can buy the truck for a whole lot of money and then go around and have to buy the battery in the charger. My point taken if you don't struggle with money this is a good option for you if you struggle for money just stick with your MJX hyper go.
That doesn’t stack up to a new HPi maverick2 flux where you know you will be able to get parts easily
the new maverick is a very solid option and yes parts will be everywhere. For slightly more money people can have that safety.
No battery or charger that’s terrible esp for the price. It does look like a decent truck
they either need to drop the price or include a decent 3s battery and charger to make the price slightly easier to justify
@@beyondRC agreed
I've bought a second hand 3s senton off eBay for £185
exactly why justifying something like this becomes really hard. 😎👍
It looks like a HOSIM rc..
Rlaarlo AM-D12 Gold 1/12 RTR Brushless RC Desert Car £150
Used to buy Chinese rc car knowing that i will broke it and i may end up with a useless car..BUT IT WAS HALF THE BRANDED PRICE!
I remember those days! they are getting just a bit too expensive now to justify when you have the likes of the arrma gorgon and mega 4x2 range and the second hand market
@@beyondRC this is the only truth..time will tell about their pricing policy .. and i have to say that i have not ordered a single rc for the last 3 months..this is my new record..
Body looks like it came from Walmart not that that's a bad thing but ye price is high
It's actually 225$ now
I think they made it cheaper 🥴
...price makes it junk...wait 1 or 2 years and buy it for 1/2 price like always oh and we just now getting a hold of bad manufacturing
Bad manufacturing has always been a thing and it’s a problem we cannot solve. I can call out quality control issues all day long but if the next channel isn’t.. who’s going to listen
✌🏻😎🏴I’ve never rated cheap Chinese RC’s like WLTOYS. I’ve always disliked them & their practices. I also said that they would increase prices when tons of people are pushing them on CZcams. Shame they never increased the quality. Still junk in my opinion.
40mph is a nice speed for the size of that thing. Shame about the price. Does it feel strong? Or does it feel flimsy & cheap?
when they where priced at £60 odd i think they were immense value for the money but now they are £100+ absolutely not. It does feel strong, durable and tough very comparable to the HBX range of vehicles in terms of plastic feel.
depends on the xhinese brand and effort they put on the models. Where do you think parts of the top rc players are built? china is the main supplier of almost everything and we have to accept reality that they can and do as well as europeans and americans. in the 80s japanese cars and eletronics were the famous JAP CRAP and then they became known by the extreme quality and reliability of cars, bikes and eletronics. I own 2 hbx 16890 and i could never ask for a more reliable and tough rc car. When i was a kid, not even in my dreams i could aspire to such quality rcs.
why buy this overpriced rc when we have mjx the best in the market in budget with quality
some people are looking for something bigger. The MJX hyper range is 1/16 to 1/14 and not suitable for everyone. This is for people who are looking for more than the MJX although I do agree the MJX is hard to beat for value.
@@beyondRC yes I get it
"promosm" 💦
Cheap & Chinese go hand in hand but 𝙉𝙊𝙏 anymore as they getting greedy nowadays. My late grandfather always said to 𝙉𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙍 buy from China and he was spot on decades ago now.