People need to understand that gupta Empires (which were Buddhists) and todays Gupta people has no connection.. today's gupta people just stole their name for surname. In British Era ✅
vimoh's video in short A controversy arose involving Keerthi History and Audrey Truschke, who wrote a book on South Asian history. Truschke, in a lecture, mentioned she doesn’t focus on dynasties like the Gupta or Chola because many other historians already do, preferring to explore what life was like for ordinary people. Keerthi History cut a clip from this lecture, presenting it out of context to suggest that Truschke dismissed the Gupta dynasty’s achievements entirely. Keerthi History then highlighted the Gupta period’s accomplishments, such as the invention of the decimal system, in an attempt to refute Truschke. Two main issues with Keerthi History’s video are: 1. Attributing achievements like the invention of the decimal system directly to the ruling dynasty is misleading, as these developments often reflect broader societal progress rather than just the rulers’ actions. 2. The video misrepresented Truschke’s lecture by taking her comments out of context, potentially driven by personal bias against her.
Guptas were as important to India's history as Tang or Han dynasty of Chinese history. Sanskrit changed from Vedic Sanskritam to Dhrupadi Sanskrit. Trade roots were expanded, agriculture flourished, decentralized civil administration came to existence, Nalanada Baudh Bihar strengthened study of Buddhist philosophy, Hindu philosophy and astronomy. Trigonometry with Bhaskara 2's sine approximations were derived. Courts were divides from district to province level. So yeah Guptas are important. As an indian atheist who loves his nation than any religion, I will say that Guptas have importance in indian history. Similarly we must keep in mind that Guptas enjoyed prosperity as the Muarians and Shungas strengthened agriculture and rule of law. But some evil practices like Varna discrimination, Sati came into existence in late Gupta period which was not cool at all.
I think comparing Guptas to Hans will be an overstatement because Hans were remembered long after their decline in China and their Empirical and Ethnic legacy continued, while after the decline of Guptas, nobody remembered them up until their Signs were rediscovered by the British.
@@basantprasadsgarden8365 In China, there were no large scale destruction of infrastructure or foreign attacks. After the Mongol attacks when the Mongol Yuan dynasty ruled China, they repaired and restored many buildings. Same is case for Japan. The Ashikaga Shogunate rebuilt structures of Kamakura Shogunate and Hojo Clan even after defeating and destroying their clans. Same was case for the Tokugawa... they didn't destroy all castles of their enemies... infact Tokugawa Hidetada rebuilt many of those broken castles. So the later kings didn't remember Guptas that much because their inscriptions, mansions everything were nearly destroyed by the late Pushyavuti and Maukhari dynasties.
leave it... vimoh's audience is hell bent on believing what they think is correct.. They are not so much of a "rationalist" as they make themselves to be
@@combinatorics1224 even in that context, Guptas were just a major dynasty in the unstable landscape of the later ancient period. Their contributions are significant, though not that much as they are credited for.
Upper castes enjoyed luxurious life under Mughals from being their commanders to advisors. So yes,he was not cruel against them but upper castes were cruel against their own fellow lower castes. Upper castes cruelty >>>>aurangzeb.
It's funny how you're ready to defend a tyrant our of hate for people of your own nation, sure do that you'll still be considered a kafir. @@RAMTA_SLAYER
@@PropioniBacteriumShermanii go and ask the low castes why they are availing reservations and you will get your answer. Now,you wanna defend those oppressors just to make someone villain? So cool.
Exactly this video was needed .. Dynastic history is the whole history !.. No socio political history , socio- economic , administrative history , religious history etc there are so many aspect of a particular time period in history.. but we always go only for Dynastic history . The problem is we don't question " why , how and from where the person who is spitting something " ... If we do so every question can be answered.
😂😂 U seriously study history from school books? We've records of scores of women Sanskrit scholars from that period & Varna too was by merit back then.
@@ayushgupta4376 but why you didn't give any women scholar name and you didn't give any source of your argument. May be there was 1 or 2 scholar women . But as you know Exceptions are not rules. I think you only study history that's why you don't know the exceptions and the rules concept. Exceptions are everywhere but it can't become rule because of their quantity. Read science and other subjects as well.
They don't condense the entirety of indian history, only the basics or important periods of it. I mean to be fair, our history books do it worse in school
What else did you think the short was about? U really thought it had anything to do with Keerthi History? 😂 My brother doesn't know how manipulation and propaganda works.. ❤
You are doing a great job Vimoh sir, you are showing the blind followers the path of truth. I am also an atheist like you, please keep making videos about the reality of religion, whether anyone supports or not, I will support.
sir can you reccomend some good books on history in general, voh google pe toh sab baiased reccomendation hote hai i need some real to truth history books of world, spesificaaly on eurasian civilization
There is no 'true' history books its always a gray area. As far as I understood history varies depending on who is saying it so read more than one book on a subject. For example read more than one book on Eurasian civilization and come to an conclusion by yourself. I would like to recommend 'A Political History of the World' by Jonathan Holslag its a good start have been reading for the last 8 months its good one(Though American history is discussed very less). He has given some book recommendations also based on each chapter.
But that doesnt discount her statement about her saying they werent important in terms of changing the course of history. That is where the disagreement is being shown. u missed that part
I'd recommend Jay Vardhan's youtube channel for those who want to know how & when the Empires grew & declined in Ancient India. He's pretty Honest to the analysis based on authentic evidence available till date. Plus I wanted to know that don't you think the ruling Empires of a significantly large region have an imapct on the social, economic & cultural life of the people within the region. Don't you think that the Success of the Nalanda University had anything to do with the then Ruling Empires who provided good enough atmosphere for it's growth. So how could she neglect a powerful ruling Dynasty covering almost entire northern India at it's peak by saying that it's not that important at all and that too when Science & Mathematics boomed in that time.
Hello bhai. Can you please make a video on Beerbicep bringing archeologists like Nilesh Oak with some proofs ? I am even not sure he is archelogist as per his linkedin account.
@vimoh History of the people vs History of the rulers. How much will it(dichotomy)be relevant during british rule or mughal rule in india? Need to resolve that first and then we can go back thousands of years.
Thank you so much for addressing. Keerthi history tends to time and again lose context and nuance. I frankly do want to believe what she says for pride and ego sake " we are so great" trope. But then unfortunately we also have a logical mind.
Whatever the name of this lady (foreigner) Once i saw a video where she was poking her nose in Indian history and blaming Indian to be the most cruel in past that somewhere true also but she was exaggerating and a man stood up and show her true position😂😂
Hi bro, Can you please make a video mythology of Indo-European languages family? For example scholars say Indra, Dyaus pitr, Surya, Agni, ashwin are all common in Indo-European language speakers.
Hey vimoh so as we debate, we respect other's opinions and don't force them to believe us, right? So in our (atheist's) imaginary ideal world, where everyone will be happy and in good position, will religious opinions exist?
Hey uncle! She wasn't giving all credits to Guptas, she was stating that all that happened during the Gupta's 'period' (Period) (literatures, all the inventions, art & architecture), Travelogues of Hiuen Tsang(xuanzang) & Faxian are important to know the history of India, and it happened during Guptas 'period' , and even if you want to focus on 'ground level social changes' then Xuanzang & Faxian's travelogues are more important. She wasn't giving credits what I mentioned above to Guptas but stating that the 'period' was important.
Vimoh what do you think about the allegorical view of religion some theists present for example in abrahamic faiths the Adam and eve part is not True in the literal sense but is allegorical like eve forming out of Adams ribcage signifying that a male and a female are dependant on one and another. Same could be said of the Mahabharata like everything written there is one big allegory or moral dilemma. But still they claim through this allegory the divinity had tried to guide mankind to a stable and ordered society. There are also those who argue that religion doesn't create morality but rather it enforces morality to all because a common folk is not literate enough to contemplate the moral dilemma and thought.Thus they claim religion is completely different from science as it is a tool to express philosophy, simple moral guidance to dilemma and general way of living life and establishing stability and social relations in the society. I know this is very rare inainstream religion but I still see it happening. A hindu once said to me that he takes mahabharata and ramayana as philosophy and not literal history or literal truth. I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter.
If I would have to learn or hear about ancient history I would prefer to hear it from the Jay Vardhan Singh. His videos sound professional and he also quotes the Sources , both primary and secondary in his videos regarding the subject. Unlike Kriti History who only knows to create Strawman and Manipulated arguments.
I agree with ur view on most part except considering Truschke and Thapar as a reliable sources of information. They writes biased version of past and hence is unreliable. Read books by scholars who do not mix their politics in their works.
If you don’t think this video has as fine a point, do watch other videos on the topic of the propagandizing of history and caricaturing of historians by South Asian right wing CZcamsrs. This video was not meant to be the first or last word on this topic. Please watch other, perhaps more substantial videos by Vimoh or even other even-keeled commentators on this topic (Science is Dope, perhaps). Or, even better, go read Romila Thapar’s book.
For anyone wondering y conservatives always likes Gupta empire. During the Gupta Empire caste system become official. Officially mixing caste become sin. Manu smriti like casteist rules become part of government laws.
If Keerthi thinks history should only be told from the native's point of view (which is not really a bad thing), then we'll have to take the Itihaas and Puranas literally. You know... the books that talk about Samudramanthan or a large scale war between Devas and Asuras or an army of humanoid monkeys or any other such mythological stuff. And the fact that she doesn't even considered historians like Thapar or Habib as "natives" is kinda hypocritical.
Yes I agree because islamic emperors gave them penal court and personal court to solve their issues, so that pandits made their own religion for ruling .
a guy science journey also claim that but i think we still more and more evidence to reach to this conclusion because this statement is very bold and pathbreaking in itself even our ncert is teaching us about rigveda yajurveda etc
Hinduism as religion has came into existence during british period. Otherwise word Hindu used to mean person living east of river Sindhu or broadly between Himalaya and Hind mahasagar. Brahamavad developed after 8th century as a religion and replaced Budhism and Jainism due to royal patronage maybe.
I said to my grandmother that god doesn't exist. She said that"abhi tak aisi ko machine bani hai kya jisme ek seed dalo to bohot sare seeds aur crops bahar ate hai" 😅.
There are different ways to approach history, but i dont agree woth the view that history is solely about the natives. Afterall, you won't find the history of red Indians in American history, or say, the Australian aborigines or New Zealander Maoris, would you ? It's equally important to study who ruled the country. There are two ways a society changes: one way is bottom up where change starts from the ground root upwards, for example the spread of Buddhism or for that matter, any religion. Then there's another change that is imposed from top down. Like institutionalising the caste system within state by the 1871 census and state employment policies of British, or the Mansabdari and Zamindari system of Mughals. Without understanding the background and influences of the rulers, you won't be able to understand what actually caused a top-down change in society. Now whether Guptas were great or not, i leave it to the individuals to decide. But as far as cultural renaissance and achievements are concerned, Guptas have contributed much more to our tangible anient heritage than any other ruling class. The reason why everyone knows the name of Kalidas or the existing ancient ayurvedic texts, it's because of the Gupta's patronage. They may not be the sole contributors to Indian heritage, but let's not belittle them by discrediting their achievements.
Just read your University Undergraduate History course if anyone is fascinated with history and you will be covered Social Political Economic Monarchic scientific literature Art and Architectural form of History Regarding Nanda's Maurya's Gupta's Chola's Pallava's Vatakata's Tripartite Struggle Rajput Dynasties Delhi Sultanate Mughal Empire and British India Post world war - 2 Nationalistic movements and Independence post Independence all in One Go You can just download resources from DU websites of all semesters 1-6 of History and there you Go and then Read all the Authors and their Views if you think that our Curriculum is influenced by Marxism or left ideology read them thorolgy by buying there books or from kuku FM audio version and then if you want to read Right leaning then that also after consiming so much time you will finally have a mixed take regarding History at some places Right leaning people are correct and at some places left ideolgy is better to approach the history so that you can clearly see through all the biases that's the best way you can go up with.
Mauryans literally 1. Defeated Alexander's army (headed by Selucus Nikator) 2. Made Akhand Bharat (largest Indian Empire) 3. Largest GDP contribution Indian subcontinent ever gave 4. Highest Indian global influence (spread of Buddhism from Afghanistan to Thailand)
Keerthika Govindhasamy ( content maker of keerthi history) is a good person overall...but the problem is she seems to be a paid RW activist like many or an active member of BJP IT cell... With the mission of propagating RW propaganda...
Hindi's isn't india's national language. There are many indians like me who are interested in his videos but don't know hindi. It is better for him to make videos in english
The person who didn't study say Physics after 10th grade, usually doesn't pretend to be a Physicist publicly. But the problem with History is even an engineer by training can publicly pretend to be a Historian! History is a serious subject and it has its own methods of study. Any person who is interested in History should first study Historiography. Otherwise they will be confused between Literature and History. History tries to model the past of human civilization as Economics tries to model the present. As Economics does not always have to be normative, History also has no obligation to be inspiring. But contemporary politics always tries to mend the native history in a way that suits their purpose. This is a trap. We need to free the study of native History from politically motivated ambitions of its natives. It is true for every society, not only for India.
Watched video & disliked straight away for no research or facts. Imagine accusing some 1 of misinterpreting history while yourself quoting a serial history faker.
U call yourself atheist but most of it videos on Hinduism why not Islam n Christianity. I agree every religion has drawbacks but make videos on Islam n Christianity. Let's see your courage😅
@@vimoh but not the way u do about Hinduism deep digging n scrutinizing about each in every minute things of Hinduism. Because even u know that u may get death threat when u criticise Islam deeper. U criticise Islam in the shadow of Hinduism saying that it's applies to Islam also. U r pseudo atheist just here to criticise Hinduism. I welcome if u criticise n scrutiny also religion according to their religious text. Hope u do it. Have some courage.
Many claim that we knew about the fundamental nature of universal thousands of years ago, is this true? They say natraja is the universe, he creates and destroyes the universe with his tandav dance, Just like subatomic particles dance, They say shiv is the matter and shakti is energy. If this is false Then why does it resembles the nature of universe? Is there any logical fallacies in it? 🙏
@@vimoh Many claim that we knew about the fundamental nature of universal thousands of years ago, is this true? They say natraja is the universe, he creates and destroyes the universe with his tandav dance, Just like subatomic particles dance, They say shiv is the matter and shakti is energy. If this is false Then why does it resembles the nature of universe? Is there any logical fallacies in it? 🙏
keerthi is playing with indian sentiments, regardless of the facts
because that’s how you can get views
Well even this guy is doing the same thing in the name of fake atheism.
Keerthi has a problem with everything, except with her jingoism.
She's a 'problem child' ! 😂
Keerti history is the worst history channel
Edit : Keerti history is the worst channel in the history
You consider her channel as a history channel
Its not history channel its a propaganda channel
@@sandeepsuman6381 i think he wanted to say, "worst channel in the history", but typo got him😂
Exactly, just a propaganda channel
@@SugaNuna-pw7dv😂😂😂 thats a good one
Keerthy History is the Reason I subscribed to Vimoh 😂😂
Lol yeah. I love seeing people diss her.
Yes, we're in the same boat 😄
the first video I watched of Vimoh was about her
Even this guy is lier and he is also biased
@@hasanraghibEven this guy is also lier
@@piposcatEven this guy is lier.He is defending the historian who praised aurangazeb.
Keerthi is like a female avatar of Praveen Mohan.
😂😂😂
🤣🤣yaad dila di tumne uski, abhi dekhta hun kya chal rha h uske channel pe
bhai abhi dekha, uske videos ki length ab 45min ke aas paas ho gayi hai, launda kafi mehnat kar rha h
hey, do you think Praveen Mohan has a fake accent?
Humko lagta hai Praveen ka pura game foreigners ko attract karne ka hai, tabhi toh channel ka revenue badhega
I blocked keerti history since she used to make her videos sitting diagonally to the camera.
Now that is not forgivable!
People need to understand that gupta Empires (which were Buddhists) and todays Gupta people has no connection.. today's gupta people just stole their name for surname. In British Era ✅
There are some Gupta's who are claiming that they are descendants of the Gupta rulers? 🙄
Haina ! And we Budhhists too agree that they weren't all that important
Guptas were Buddhists? 😂Another product of failed education.
@@YuezhiTribe You're most probably psuedo-Buddhist Ambedkarite, who has nothing to do with Buddhism.
What the F Gupta consider they self Kshatriya 🤣
A group of people beating drums locked up inside an echo chamber and claiming that the only sound in the world is of beating drums.
She is an actual historian while keerti is simply a youtube historian .
If Audrey is historian, I'm God & u r a f00l.
Keerthy history's all claims for Gupta period is taking from a competitive book called "Lucent"😅😅
😂😂😂 100%
Yess ., 😅😅 should check even if its in the same order
vimoh's video in short
A controversy arose involving Keerthi History and Audrey Truschke, who wrote a book on South Asian history. Truschke, in a lecture, mentioned she doesn’t focus on dynasties like the Gupta or Chola because many other historians already do, preferring to explore what life was like for ordinary people.
Keerthi History cut a clip from this lecture, presenting it out of context to suggest that Truschke dismissed the Gupta dynasty’s achievements entirely. Keerthi History then highlighted the Gupta period’s accomplishments, such as the invention of the decimal system, in an attempt to refute Truschke.
Two main issues with Keerthi History’s video are:
1. Attributing achievements like the invention of the decimal system directly to the ruling dynasty is misleading, as these developments often reflect broader societal progress rather than just the rulers’ actions.
2. The video misrepresented Truschke’s lecture by taking her comments out of context, potentially driven by personal bias against her.
Thanks, man.
Guptas were as important to India's history as Tang or Han dynasty of Chinese history. Sanskrit changed from Vedic Sanskritam to Dhrupadi Sanskrit. Trade roots were expanded, agriculture flourished, decentralized civil administration came to existence, Nalanada Baudh Bihar strengthened study of Buddhist philosophy, Hindu philosophy and astronomy. Trigonometry with Bhaskara 2's sine approximations were derived. Courts were divides from district to province level. So yeah Guptas are important. As an indian atheist who loves his nation than any religion, I will say that Guptas have importance in indian history. Similarly we must keep in mind that Guptas enjoyed prosperity as the Muarians and Shungas strengthened agriculture and rule of law. But some evil practices like Varna discrimination, Sati came into existence in late Gupta period which was not cool at all.
I think comparing Guptas to Hans will be an overstatement because Hans were remembered long after their decline in China and their Empirical and Ethnic legacy continued, while after the decline of Guptas, nobody remembered them up until their Signs were rediscovered by the British.
@@basantprasadsgarden8365 In China, there were no large scale destruction of infrastructure or foreign attacks. After the Mongol attacks when the Mongol Yuan dynasty ruled China, they repaired and restored many buildings. Same is case for Japan. The Ashikaga Shogunate rebuilt structures of Kamakura Shogunate and Hojo Clan even after defeating and destroying their clans. Same was case for the Tokugawa... they didn't destroy all castles of their enemies... infact Tokugawa Hidetada rebuilt many of those broken castles. So the later kings didn't remember Guptas that much because their inscriptions, mansions everything were nearly destroyed by the late Pushyavuti and Maukhari dynasties.
@@basantprasadsgarden8365 I am not comparing Hans with Guptas, sir. I am comparing their importance.
leave it... vimoh's audience is hell bent on believing what they think is correct.. They are not so much of a "rationalist" as they make themselves to be
@@combinatorics1224 even in that context, Guptas were just a major dynasty in the unstable landscape of the later ancient period. Their contributions are significant, though not that much as they are credited for.
Keerthi history girl looks so extremely insecure
@@annupriya7875 acharya prashant ko suna bhi karo
Glad you are uploading back on this channel vimoh, do make Stream highlight's or the best moments from stream available here.
That American Historian is the same Historian who said Aurangzeb was not cruel or he was Good king or something .
Upper castes enjoyed luxurious life under Mughals from being their commanders to advisors.
So yes,he was not cruel against them but upper castes were cruel against their own fellow lower castes.
Upper castes cruelty >>>>aurangzeb.
@@RAMTA_SLAYER still can't blame Mughals? Lol only upper castes were the bad guys
It's funny how you're ready to defend a tyrant our of hate for people of your own nation, sure do that you'll still be considered a kafir. @@RAMTA_SLAYER
@@RAMTA_SLAYERDefending a tyrant out of hate for people of your own nation? So cool.
@@PropioniBacteriumShermanii go and ask the low castes why they are availing reservations and you will get your answer. Now,you wanna defend those oppressors just to make someone villain? So cool.
she may be talking about subaltern part of history.
Exactly this video was needed .. Dynastic history is the whole history !.. No socio political history , socio- economic , administrative history , religious history etc there are so many aspect of a particular time period in history.. but we always go only for Dynastic history . The problem is we don't question " why , how and from where the person who is spitting something " ... If we do so every question can be answered.
Okay. What was the context of Audrey calling Rama a misogynistic pig?
Offended? Great! Well, she said it because he denied to accept her as his wife after rescuing her! He compared her to the food touched by dog.
@@fazer79 Cool. Is Prophet Mohammed a pedophile?
@@HRC294prophet didnt existed
Nor RAM
@@36KACRE Hhmmm
Give citations for your claim please @@fazer79
And also in gupta period women condition not well and castism increases. Source - tamil nadu class 11 book
Every historian knows this
😂😂 U seriously study history from school books? We've records of scores of women Sanskrit scholars from that period & Varna too was by merit back then.
@@ayushgupta4376 but why you didn't give any women scholar name and you didn't give any source of your argument.
May be there was 1 or 2 scholar women . But as you know
Exceptions are not rules.
I think you only study history that's why you don't know the exceptions and the rules concept.
Exceptions are everywhere but it can't become rule because of their quantity.
Read science and other subjects as well.
@@ayushgupta4376 Just because ur a Gupta ur defending here...lol
What is this obsession of historians to condense indian history in a single book ?
They don't condense the entirety of indian history, only the basics or important periods of it. I mean to be fair, our history books do it worse in school
Ummm, what is the problem?
It's irony that she has history in the name of her channel
She is a good business woman😂She has her product and she knows her buyers and how to advertise it. Even won awards because of her strategy
Everything is OK but if you're defending so called "historian" like Audrey, then you're literally cooked🕊
As someone who doesn't know who this white lady is... After watching the cut out vimoh's clip ... what's your take for defending keerthi here ??😅
Have you read her books fully? Or it's just that you're defending your favorite youtuber?
He is only defending one point Audrey made in that clip. That doesn't mean defending Audrey's entire work. You are mixing two different things here.
What else did you think the short was about? U really thought it had anything to do with Keerthi History? 😂
My brother doesn't know how manipulation and propaganda works.. ❤
chup singhi @@suryamkishore4797
I'll take this video as book recommendations.
Did you understand which book has this lady written on which this whole debate started?
a bengali reading romilla thapar is nothing new
This Keerthi history girl is basically a professional victim
You are doing a great job Vimoh sir, you are showing the blind followers the path of truth. I am also an atheist like you, please keep making videos about the reality of religion, whether anyone supports or not, I will support.
sir can you reccomend some good books on history in general, voh google pe toh sab baiased reccomendation hote hai i need some real to truth history books of world, spesificaaly on eurasian civilization
There is no 'true' history books its always a gray area. As far as I understood history varies depending on who is saying it so read more than one book on a subject. For example read more than one book on Eurasian civilization and come to an conclusion by yourself. I would like to recommend 'A Political History of the World' by Jonathan Holslag its a good start have been reading for the last 8 months its good one(Though American history is discussed very less). He has given some book recommendations also based on each chapter.
@@montechristoJr thanks
@@jack76thegamer30 👍
Yes no true history books. Just ask for concrete evidence, else accept it as one plausible explanation and stay open.
Doesn't matter if they're biased. Just be aware of your own biases, so that you can evaluate those texts critically and analytically.
Very aptly explained and rebutted!
A GOOD VIDEO THANKS FOR CREATING A GOOD KNOWLEDGABLE VIDEO THAN OTHERS
But that doesnt discount her statement about her saying they werent important in terms of changing the course of history. That is where the disagreement is being shown. u missed that part
Tum karo to leela !
Dusre kare to chedkhani ?
I'd recommend Jay Vardhan's youtube channel for those who want to know how & when the Empires grew & declined in Ancient India. He's pretty Honest to the analysis based on authentic evidence available till date.
Plus I wanted to know that don't you think the ruling Empires of a significantly large region have an imapct on the social, economic & cultural life of the people within the region. Don't you think that the Success of the Nalanda University had anything to do with the then Ruling Empires who provided good enough atmosphere for it's growth.
So how could she neglect a powerful ruling Dynasty covering almost entire northern India at it's peak by saying that it's not that important at all and that too when Science & Mathematics boomed in that time.
Hello bhai. Can you please make a video on Beerbicep bringing archeologists like Nilesh Oak with some proofs ? I am even not sure he is archelogist as per his linkedin account.
Vimoh sir plzz wrote a book on Atheism ❤️⚛️.
Guptas are Hindus??😂😂😂 That influencer is totaly insane
They weren't?
Gupta's were Buddhists
@@rommelbengali they were Buddhists
@@rommelbengali they all are buddhists. Even the Chanakya was a imaginary character.
@@TheOggy1988Fr?
"Rocky ne rock pe rocket rakha" bolo 💀🤌
@vimoh History of the people vs History of the rulers. How much will it(dichotomy)be relevant during british rule or mughal rule in india? Need to resolve that first and then we can go back thousands of years.
Sushruta lived during Gupta's period?? He lived in 7th century BC
Thank you so much for addressing. Keerthi history tends to time and again lose context and nuance. I frankly do want to believe what she says for pride and ego sake " we are so great" trope. But then unfortunately we also have a logical mind.
Whatever the name of this lady (foreigner)
Once i saw a video where she was poking her nose in Indian history and blaming Indian to be the most cruel in past that somewhere true also but she was exaggerating and a man stood up and show her true position😂😂
First basic fact is that you know the most recent history best and it declines as you go farther past
Why is this important to us???
Wdym? Why history is important?
@@adityabansal7809 where is history????
"Misinformation is killing india"
@@manujohn99 indian history wrote by white dudes
Keerti is so insecure.
Hi bro, Can you please make a video mythology of Indo-European languages family? For example scholars say Indra, Dyaus pitr, Surya, Agni, ashwin are all common in Indo-European language speakers.
🙏Please make a video on why there is a shiv natraja statue at cern lab
Hey vimoh so as we debate, we respect other's opinions and don't force them to believe us, right? So in our (atheist's) imaginary ideal world, where everyone will be happy and in good position, will religious opinions exist?
Hey uncle! She wasn't giving all credits to Guptas, she was stating that all that happened during the Gupta's 'period'
(Period) (literatures, all the inventions, art & architecture),
Travelogues of Hiuen Tsang(xuanzang) & Faxian are important to know the history of India, and it happened during Guptas 'period' , and even if you want to focus on 'ground level social changes' then Xuanzang & Faxian's travelogues are more important. She wasn't giving credits what I mentioned above to Guptas but stating that the 'period' was important.
Oh. And one more point. Romila Thapar is a "native".
Keep it up 🙏
Abki yoga controversy pe aap kya kehna chahenge aur iske liye samaj ko kaise sudhara ja sakta hai aap ka kya ray hai pls ispe video banaiye
Vimoh what do you think about the allegorical view of religion some theists present for example in abrahamic faiths the Adam and eve part is not True in the literal sense but is allegorical like eve forming out of Adams ribcage signifying that a male and a female are dependant on one and another. Same could be said of the Mahabharata like everything written there is one big allegory or moral dilemma. But still they claim through this allegory the divinity had tried to guide mankind to a stable and ordered society. There are also those who argue that religion doesn't create morality but rather it enforces morality to all because a common folk is not literate enough to contemplate the moral dilemma and thought.Thus they claim religion is completely different from science as it is a tool to express philosophy, simple moral guidance to dilemma and general way of living life and establishing stability and social relations in the society. I know this is very rare inainstream religion but I still see it happening. A hindu once said to me that he takes mahabharata and ramayana as philosophy and not literal history or literal truth. I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter.
If I would have to learn or hear about ancient history I would prefer to hear it from the Jay Vardhan Singh. His videos sound professional and he also quotes the Sources , both primary and secondary in his videos regarding the subject.
Unlike Kriti History who only knows to create Strawman and Manipulated arguments.
Vimoh you should read books by dr mubarak ali on history
I agree with ur view on most part except considering Truschke and Thapar as a reliable sources of information. They writes biased version of past and hence is unreliable. Read books by scholars who do not mix their politics in their works.
Average Sanghi - Let’s twist the history and take credit for things we have no idea about.
okay so what is the point of this video?
That Keerti is a lier.
If you don’t think this video has as fine a point, do watch other videos on the topic of the propagandizing of history and caricaturing of historians by South Asian right wing CZcamsrs.
This video was not meant to be the first or last word on this topic.
Please watch other, perhaps more substantial videos by Vimoh or even other even-keeled commentators on this topic (Science is Dope, perhaps).
Or, even better, go read Romila Thapar’s book.
that Keerti has played the game of victimhood once again
@@MischiefL0ki isn't that what vimoh did right here?
@@fushhiii Ummmm, when did Vimoh pretend to be a victim?
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Even if we don't want to do go through dynasties, even then gupta period is worth more than 2 Paras for the sheer cultural legacy it left.
I stopped watching her when she literally denied the existence of castiesm from Indian history n said Britishers n Mughals started casteism 🥴
😂😂😂that’s Ramta cooked up history
For anyone wondering y conservatives always likes Gupta empire. During the Gupta Empire caste system become official. Officially mixing caste become sin. Manu smriti like casteist rules become part of government laws.
both her and Ranveer use the same formula. roll out content that gets views. no matter how non credible it is
If Keerthi thinks history should only be told from the native's point of view (which is not really a bad thing), then we'll have to take the Itihaas and Puranas literally. You know... the books that talk about Samudramanthan or a large scale war between Devas and Asuras or an army of humanoid monkeys or any other such mythological stuff. And the fact that she doesn't even considered historians like Thapar or Habib as "natives" is kinda hypocritical.
Enlightenment is when you understand "There was no such Hinduism thing before 8th century".🙏
Yes I agree because islamic emperors gave them penal court and personal court to solve their issues, so that pandits made their own religion for ruling .
a guy science journey also claim that but i think we still more and more evidence to reach to this conclusion because this statement is very bold and pathbreaking in itself even our ncert is teaching us about rigveda yajurveda etc
Hinduism as religion has came into existence during british period. Otherwise word Hindu used to mean person living east of river Sindhu or broadly between Himalaya and Hind mahasagar. Brahamavad developed after 8th century as a religion and replaced Budhism and Jainism due to royal patronage maybe.
Why did Buddha praise Manu & call himself descendent of Shri Ram then, !d!0t Bhimte?
@@AmarjitSingh-dhaniAll Sikh Gurus called themselves proud Sanatani.
I said to my grandmother that god doesn't exist. She said that"abhi tak aisi ko machine bani hai kya jisme ek seed dalo to bohot sare seeds aur crops bahar ate hai" 😅.
There are different ways to approach history, but i dont agree woth the view that history is solely about the natives. Afterall, you won't find the history of red Indians in American history, or say, the Australian aborigines or New Zealander Maoris, would you ?
It's equally important to study who ruled the country.
There are two ways a society changes: one way is bottom up where change starts from the ground root upwards, for example the spread of Buddhism or for that matter, any religion.
Then there's another change that is imposed from top down. Like institutionalising the caste system within state by the 1871 census and state employment policies of British, or the Mansabdari and Zamindari system of Mughals.
Without understanding the background and influences of the rulers, you won't be able to understand what actually caused a top-down change in society.
Now whether Guptas were great or not, i leave it to the individuals to decide. But as far as cultural renaissance and achievements are concerned, Guptas have contributed much more to our tangible anient heritage than any other ruling class.
The reason why everyone knows the name of Kalidas or the existing ancient ayurvedic texts, it's because of the Gupta's patronage.
They may not be the sole contributors to Indian heritage, but let's not belittle them by discrediting their achievements.
Just read your University Undergraduate History course if anyone is fascinated with history and you will be covered Social Political Economic Monarchic scientific literature Art and Architectural form of History Regarding Nanda's Maurya's Gupta's Chola's Pallava's Vatakata's Tripartite Struggle Rajput Dynasties Delhi Sultanate Mughal Empire and British India Post world war - 2 Nationalistic movements and Independence post Independence all in One Go
You can just download resources from DU websites of all semesters 1-6 of History and there you Go and then Read all the Authors and their Views if you think that our Curriculum is influenced by Marxism or left ideology read them thorolgy by buying there books or from kuku FM audio version and then if you want to read Right leaning then that also after consiming so much time you will finally have a mixed take regarding History at some places Right leaning people are correct and at some places left ideolgy is better to approach the history so that you can clearly see through all the biases that's the best way you can go up with.
Science journey channel pe india ki history hai real
Keerti history is basically a CZcams version of WhatsApp University History.
Whenever I see Keerthi, I just exit youtube.
Gupta 's were Vishnu bhakts
The right to say "God doesn't exist" belongs only to those who have the answer to every question.
Says who?
Mauryans literally
1. Defeated Alexander's army (headed by Selucus Nikator)
2. Made Akhand Bharat (largest Indian Empire)
3. Largest GDP contribution Indian subcontinent ever gave
4. Highest Indian global influence (spread of Buddhism from Afghanistan to Thailand)
Their narrowminded approach to history wouldn't comprehend that
The Hunas caused their destruction. Yet you blame the Muslims.
Waha GDP kyu apply kar rahe ho bhai ?
😂 India is the most invaded land on the planet earth
There is no largest Empire that India content
Keerthika Govindhasamy ( content maker of keerthi history) is a good person overall...but the problem is she seems to be a paid RW activist like many or an active member of BJP IT cell... With the mission of propagating RW propaganda...
Keethi History
Is A Self-Claimed
Historian 😂
Please speak hindi please tbi to ham sb ko samajhane me asani hogi
Bhai English itni bhi kathin bhasha nahi hai.
Hindi's isn't india's national language. There are many indians like me who are interested in his videos but don't know hindi. It is better for him to make videos in english
The person who didn't study say Physics after 10th grade, usually doesn't pretend to be a Physicist publicly. But the problem with History is even an engineer by training can publicly pretend to be a Historian! History is a serious subject and it has its own methods of study. Any person who is interested in History should first study Historiography. Otherwise they will be confused between Literature and History. History tries to model the past of human civilization as Economics tries to model the present. As Economics does not always have to be normative, History also has no obligation to be inspiring. But contemporary politics always tries to mend the native history in a way that suits their purpose. This is a trap. We need to free the study of native History from politically motivated ambitions of its natives. It is true for every society, not only for India.
Watched video & disliked straight away for no research or facts. Imagine accusing some 1 of misinterpreting history while yourself quoting a serial history faker.
KEERTI is the Voice of Sanghis
Playing with people too much. Why is she telling people to care about empires while living in an independent country
Rathert then taegeting keerthy for views can you target ncert fragmented history 🙂
No IT cell would pay for that. He has to take care of his income! 🤡
She's a Tamil RSS face
U call yourself atheist but most of it videos on Hinduism why not Islam n Christianity. I agree every religion has drawbacks but make videos on Islam n Christianity. Let's see your courage😅
Already have
Where is the video about hinduism? Aren't we debunking misinformation peddler people?
@@vimoh but not the way u do about Hinduism deep digging n scrutinizing about each in every minute things of Hinduism. Because even u know that u may get death threat when u criticise Islam deeper. U criticise Islam in the shadow of Hinduism saying that it's applies to Islam also. U r pseudo atheist just here to criticise Hinduism. I welcome if u criticise n scrutiny also religion according to their religious text. Hope u do it. Have some courage.
Indian atheism and liberalism means shittin on hinduism for no reason and loving radical Abrahamic religions
hindi
decided not to get married is already a first sign of Intelligence and high IQ.
Thanks 😁
Vimoh ji aapki mrityu ke baad aapke shareer ka kya kiya jaayega?
Please expose Rajarshi Nandy also
hes deluded af
lmao he rajarshi could give less thn a flying fuck about what this nobody has to say
@@thestealth293who is deluded
@@buddha9715what are you talking about
@@ravi.thaker6039 rajashri ,of course !! whats the doubt ?
Keerthi is the ged version of Audrey both are worst
Sir 1 long vedio on J Sai Deepak hindutva activist
Godi media 😅
Guptas period is ofcourse the golden age for the Manuvadis.
Bhai in gapodiyo se history dekhne se achha science journey channel pe dekho real history of india with proof💯💯
Keerti talks such nonsense so much.....😂😂😂😂😂
Keerti is joke
she is so annoying
agar aapke youtube store me se
t- shirt buy kari or pehan ke nikla to log dur bhagenge mujhse 😂😂
Lol keerty is lol propoganda spreader
AI art has ruined everything.
Either you believe or don't believe..both ways it's related to GOD.. Can't escape GOD.. Aapke ghar bhi Bhagwan hi chalaa rahe hain...
Aastikon se zyada BHAGWAN BHAGWAN aap karte hain. nastik hokar... Irony.
🙏Please make a video on why there is a shiv natraja statue at cern lab
It was a gift from the government of India.
Many claim that we knew about the fundamental nature of universal thousands of years ago, is this true?
They say natraja is the universe, he creates and destroyes the universe with his tandav dance,
Just like subatomic particles dance,
They say shiv is the matter and shakti is energy.
If this is false
Then why does it resembles the nature of universe?
Is there any logical fallacies in it? 🙏
@@vimoh Many claim that we knew about the fundamental nature of universal thousands of years ago, is this true?
They say natraja is the universe, he creates and destroyes the universe with his tandav dance,
Just like subatomic particles dance,
They say shiv is the matter and shakti is energy.
If this is false
Then why does it resembles the nature of universe?
Is there any logical fallacies in it? 🙏
Yes. The fallacy is false equivalence. The natraj statue is just art.
@@vimoh but then why do even scientist acknowledge it?
A scientist has acknowledged this in his book the tao of physics,