The Disappearance of Dylan Koshman - The Fifth Estate
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- It's one of the oldest unsolved missing person cases in Edmonton's history.
Dylan Koshman disappeared on October 11, 2008 after leaving his house, following a fight with his roommates.
The fifth estate talks with family, witnesses and police and this Friday we bring you a significant development in the case.
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He was murdered by his very own relatives and his parents are living in denial.
making them morally complicit
Parents are stupid.😞
If they found lots of blood soaked paper towels, someone was bleeding and it seemed cops cared about everything except that this young man vanished , and they moved on.... I can see how awful it would be and it would tear a family apart to see proof one of them had killed a cousin and other family members helped and covered it over for years. Devastating to have lost a son and now hes killed by his relative. Just sad for all of them.
I believe so too. As for the family's denial, we can't even begin to fathom what they are feeling/going through. Realistically speaking, that has got to be one of the most difficult things in the world to accept. This whole thing is horrible, to be betrayed in the absolute worst way imaginable by the people in your life that you trust the most. What's heartbreaking is to think what Dylan's last thoughts must have been.
Steve Jones
PianoGesang
I wouldn’t blame the parents for trying to ignore the obvious probable solution. Can you imagine what such a situation can do to your psyche? You have to live with the suspects on a daily basis, you can’t believe, that such a horrible thought can actually be a reality, this solution would damage the family once again irreparably... If you know anything about how our brains work... - your mind wants to protect you from hurting at all cost... Their behavior is very easily explicable and they deserve more understanding than this :/...
Next time I have a murder mystery, instead of calling these detectives, I'll just contact Scooby and the gang to help me solve it!
Thank you and Scrappy too!!
Yeah. It’s terrible.
In many cases the last known person to be in the company of the missing person is often the perpetrator !!
Right??!! It was a joke not an investigation.
Agree
The mother even said herself "its gonna hurt a lot of people." She knows. They know. We all know.
We always know, so much wasted time in da nile
Denial is such a weird mechanism, isn't it? They may know, but their conscious mind seems not to be able to deal with it, so even though the reality is staring them straight in the face, they can't see it, just the narrative their subconscious has chosen to cause them the least pain. Hey, Christmas dinners must be fun, huh? What a family!
Denial cause of so many additional loses to come, so sad.
@@paytonfossa7864 denial is one thing but understanding someone who u love and loves your son killed him is another thing.
thats not a real mother
My brother is one of the cousins. His name is Cameron St.laurent. He has NEVER been fully questioned by the police, and he was there that night and lied about calling the police.
Dylan was MURDERED. The police need to question the cousins again.
they haven’t done anything at all!!!! He’s in an out of jail constantly and he’s never been re questioned.
The whole situation is messed up! My brother and the rest of the cousins need to re questioned. I bet stories have changed
@@palanie9694 go to the police yourself!!
@@glendamcclure8506 oh? Because I haven’t in over 10 years right? I live in a seperate city, I would have to travel to Edmonton to give a statement they already have on file. It’s not that simple!
@@palanie9694 Thank you so much for speaking out!! I can't imagine how difficult ALL this must be for you...having to carry this around for all these years!! God be with you. R.I.P. Dylan...
Please do something. I'm from France and I feel outraged and sad for Dylan. He deserves justice
I dont think Dillian ever walked out of that house.
He did not. They need to do luminol tests in that house.
I agree.
He literally said something about him being dead and in a construction sight
Did I miss the part when they searched inside the house?
Wonder how long it took before they got a new oven.
Absolutely, he did NOT!
The cousin definitely did it...when the girlfriend wanted to come to the house and get her things the cousin said no... and the cousin wouldn't even file a missing person's report.
POShit!
Deeb Yes there’s way too many stupid things that the cousins did and didn’t do. Why can’t the gf get her things? Why not call police? That’s the two biggest right there.
Tangela Marshall morning pp
Deeb he was probably cleaning up.
@@AthanasiaOrtholady cleaning up the mess
Beaten to death by his own cousins and the rest of the family being in denial... If they went into that house with luminol even now, I'm sure it would light up like a Christmas tree.
And not reporting him missing bur making excuses instead
It’s weird how the family is in denial and act friendly with the cousins that killed him and seem worried for the cousins!Crazy
Because they know they all know.
One needs proof n not feeling/opinion to bring names
You aren't guilty unless proven otherwise!
Right?
Isn't it the moto all democratic and legal system having countries uses? 😌
I am not on cousins side, but just saying that you need to understand those parents too.
Right?? I'd be out for blood for my child, even family blood!!!
Remember...that's either mom or dad's siblings'children. To admit to believing the cousins were guilty is severing ties to family.
I believe it's Dylan's dad's siblings children as he was steadfast but the wife knows & is unable to express that because a divorce may entail
911 a man is being beaten! The police didn’t show up. Unbelievable
Probably eating donuts or something!!
Why have police when they dont do there job thats so annoying. Unbelievable indeed
doesn't matter, mom's vampire teethe ate him by then
@@augustuscrow1799 "why have police when they dont do there job"
You do know that police across Canada are separate organisms, right?
Let's get this to "911 LIKES"
COPS COULD'VE STOPPED THIS BY RESPONDING WHEN THEY WERE CALLED THE FIRST TIME. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Canadian Justice System is a joke.
Yah, the cops asked the family for new information, isn't that a little backwards.
cops don't help unless you pay them to.
I wouldn't go to the extreme like that, if cops weren't here we would be overrun with crime, that's just an obvious fact
Exactly!
Ok but the “blood soaked” paper towels weren’t tested or??? Like wtf
I was thinking the same...
I concur. I just think an hour program does not mentioned the reason. Sadly these are those unsolvable ones.
Most detectives would dream of a case this easy to solve with this much evidence! Yet, these definitely dropped the ball. It’s blatantly obvious that Dylan never left the house after that fight. He was killed by his cousin and everyone in his family knows it or is in major denial. Rest In Peace Dylan.
family members can be just as evil as any stranger
At times more then a stranger
dollilolli8 sometimes even more evil 😒
dollilolli8 if not worse cause it can be personal
He was a handsome guy. Wonder if his family was jealous that he was serious about life, working, learning and improving himself. Guys can sometimes be a weight on your shoulders.
dollilolli8 WORSE
I think the mom knows it was the cousins....she just doesn’t want to accept it.
I think the same!! Probably because she denies that he is dead! She doesn't want to face the truth!! 😔😔
I’m hoping she comes to her senses on that, I hate to see family that naïve
maybe it's alien abduction : dad
It really annoys me when they are asking the mum and dad about it at the end they don’t mention the 911 call.. I wanted to see what the parents said about that. Obviously they beat him to death.
She doesn't even have tears when she cries. She tried it but nothing came out.
The parents don’t want to know the truth, sadly.
They killed him because they were jealous, drunk and angry.
What a JOKE Stevie Wonder can see Dylan was killed by his cousin's... Smh
cousins.
@@momsterous no it's cousin's
@@horstebreedow8608 Okay, then that means it is a possessive... Killed by his cousin's what? If they meant cousins in general - as a group, it's "cousins". The way that is written we're left hanging as to what, belonging to the cousin, killed him...cousin's hammer, cousin's fist, or cousin's what?
duhh
@@horstebreedow8608 No! not no.
Dylan is still missing because his parents refuse to believe that his cousins killed him and dumped him at a construction site.
Agree and that is why the cops are not going there either. Will never be solved because we all know murderers do not have families.
Justice true justice eye for eye or in this case
In denial. Holding vigils cousin never attending
could be that the cousins are those shady type cousins that created ruckus in the town or area like the mob or gang an the police dont wanna get involved or even the family is scared of them cuz those pics the cousin Colin looks disturbed to me. ijs
Until I started watching true crime, I wouldn't have believed anyone in my family could do something like this. It's only because I've become aware of how many people get murdered by someone they know (including ex-boyfriend/ex-girlfriend), that I'd even consider such a possibility. Fortunately (or not), the only family members who have died have been from cancer.
Anyone else hear the screams in their heads “Cousins did it?”
Oh everybody
Just days after his disappearance I was walking along Calgary Trail at the intersection on 34th Ave., his mom was putting up posters. It breaks my heart that they don’t know what happened. Devastating.
This is such a sad joke. A group of kindergarteners could solve this case better than these weirdos.
What weirdos? Knowing who did it & being able to prove it are two different things. The police suspect the cousins too, but you can't be arrested with 0 proof.
Amanda Dercole trust me the police know he did it too but they don’t have any evidence they can’t prove anything.
Yes! Thank you!
@Joe M with the candlestick!!
Agree
They all beat that cousin to death ….then covered it up...
Exactly what I was thinking, turning on him like some street fight . Sad & sorry .
Detectives should of went into the cousins kitchen and sprayed Luminol which shows blood when uv lighting is exposed..These cops didn't do anything smh
Yeap. Envy and jealousy. Had it been an accident, they would have said it, no problem. They're covering up and the advice comes from the father of the deceased.
Agreed
Yep. I understand it's hard to swallow for the family but it's very open and shut from an outside perspective.
So he's been dumped in a construction site according to his cousin Colin. Listen to what he says, he's telling you what really happened.
I believe the cousins had everything to do with it... deep down inside the family know... & because they're in denial they'll never know what happened..
The point is, don’t be a victim of a crime or go missing in Edmonton because the police there are utterly incompetent. This family and dylan deserves better
true!
Or, be a criminal in Edmonton as the police are incompetent there.
Agree
Sounds like police corruption. Weird lack of response & concern. Wow. Pray for Dylan’s parents & for the truth 🙏🏻
Bruceolee Not just Edmonton🙄
I'm from Edmonton and saw the flyers everywhere. For me, the first red flag was when Collin did not call the police. Hello????
They did something to him..omg I can te'er ll just by the looks on their faces 👮🏻need to get on it...bet if his fam was rich they be looking.
I totally agree!
And then not join in the searches and go skydiving?? And then that strange statement about people getting murdered and buried and then not attending the memorial services each year except that one and denying talking to the media... cindy holloway There's either a big family secret or an inheritance involved and his family don't want to lose it by accusing the cousin. That's the only thing I can imagine which would make them behave this way.. Even the brother, vehemently denying any suspicion on the cousins. 🙄 Also the girlfriend had something off about her... Very smiley and laughing about such a serious matter, when she was kind of involved in him getting into trouble in the first place. Could be on drugs or a little sociopathic.
It's a shame that the family refused to fight for their son because the killers are family members. The irony is that those cousins don't give a flying F and keep sleeping soundly, even in the below comments someone pointed out that one of the cousins who was there that night is being in and out of jail.
Who are these parents trying to protect?
What a weird family. You would think the family would want justice for Dylan.
So many stupid people involved in this case from family to the cops. Sad for Dylan. RIP
Absolutely pathetic police work. For shame, Edmonton Police. FOR SHAME.
Josh Popichak
You would think they would change their tactics or strategic measures, for all the 1500 beings who go missing, every year...
Unbelievable....
I believe it was the cousins.
GOD ONLY KNOWS, THE WHOLE TRUTH.👣🌏😇🌈⭐
I LOVE THIS COMMENT! I rarely hear for shame used in context anymore so this made my day.
FOOORRR SSSHHHHAAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEE
Jose Martinez And busy charging people for exercising their free speech.
Those parents should be ashamed of themselves too. Zero true interest in finding him. But plenty empathy & understanding for the cousins. What a travesty…
That father is driving me nuts. It’s like DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUS
The Edmonton police are shockingly incompetent! So Sad. My Sympathies to his immediate family.
WOW... The family is really in denial.
He left the house in below zero weather in jeans and a t-shirt and there has been no activity on his phone or bank card....
It must of been a alien abduction then.
You right denial denial denial!!!
It's obvious the cousin killed him.
that was obvious from only seeing the pic in the beginning of the 4 of them... he has a murderers look =(
I hope you never serve on a jury... “No, really, I do not need to attend the trial. Within the first glance I can see the guilty verdict is the only verdict for this person, as you can simply see they look like a person that has committed murder.”
The cousins need to be looked at more closely. They did it . Think they should look into where they worked was it a construction site .?
yea but u need concrete proofs in a court of law, suspicion alone isnt enough.. and yea the cousin seems guilty af..
your just saying that because you yourself have 'that murderers look". Perhaps the police need to start investigating all the people that have gone missing in a 2o mils radius from your residence!@@laurapalmer3403
The way the cops laughed off the family having a command center after they're son's been missing for a week. That's F'ed up...
This episode should be called " the MURDER of ...
so here's what most likely happened: the cousins were fighting and either accidentally or intentionally killed Dylan. none of them wanted to get in trouble so they disposed of his body in a construction site probably far away and now there's a building over it. it makes me wonder how many people are buried under buildings now and will never be found.
USA and Canadas Carpenters union was created by the chicago Mob. not only is it massivley profitable you can also discard someone and make it look like an accident.
Dylan was gorgeous. His cousin was super Jealous of him. So obvious. He did it
my exact thoughts!! jealous their whole lives!!!
Kyle Lowery she said jealousy and that happens a lot.
Yup!
@Kyle Lowery When someone already has hatred for another person, physical appearances fuel the fire. Attractiveness is seen as an advantage. Someone who is already disappointed with their life and angry at someone who is doing better than them will definitely form a hatred for their physical appearance too. It's all basic human psychology.
yeah he did it cause Dylan was better looking than him... he should've aswell went outside the house and killed every man he saw... you are projecting, men don't get jealous over such trivial things like women do...
8:29 - when the cops smile (almost laugh) while saying they had a command center setup. Sad. Horribly sad. That cop is laughing at the family's attempt to find their son...
This case has always bothered me. Dylan NEVER left that house. His parents are in denial and the truth is so obvious.
"I'm not his keeper"?!!! Um. That's what Cain said about Abel after he MURDERED him
Exactly.
The famous words of Cain when he killed his brother Abel.
The same darkness that was worming its way through Cain's heart was/is in that man too
Krystal A There’s no evidence that Cain or Abel ever existed.
@@deltanovember1672 Whether they did or did not, the allegory is chillingly applicable
So, the cops get a complaint about domestic violence and don't bother to show up for several hours. The mother phones to report her missing son but because she lives in another province she is told she can't report him missing. So the mom calls the "possible" killer and asks him to report her sons disappearance, he ignores her request. Family gathers and sets up a search. The last known person to see the victim alive refuses to help in the search and goes skydiving after making a comment that the victim may be buried in a construction site. The cops show up at the families search and ask for news. The cops say with a stupid smirk on their face that none of Colin's actions make him a suspect. This is the real reason why this crime has gone unsolved for 9 years, because the cops were lazy from day 1. Moral of the story is, don't go missing in Edmonton because the cops don't care. Look at their statistics. Pathetic.
@Sherry Dyck - you gave the best summary of this story in one paragraph! Mistakes made all over the place in this case. When they finally DO figure out what happened and find Dylan's remains, I think a lot of heads are going to roll for those mistakes.
You summarized all the absurdities in this case. I had to scoff in disbelief at every stage of this investigation.
You forgot Collins own mom suspects him, even when Dylan family is in denial. Parents know their kids and for a mother to get that feeling about her own child especially when parents first reaction is to save their kids not suspect them. Yea Collin killed or had some involvement and his own mom got that gut instinct.
15.000 a year? How many People live in that town. Thats not normal so many
@@sikhnation1990It amazes me his Mom doesn't want to believe it it was the nephew, the sister JUST KNOWS it was her son. That is one messed up family.
He was so darling when he was little and his mom was filming him. My heart goes out to his parent’s.
This is the highest hope I have ever seen and heard of that Dylan will come back. It sounds crazy how the father is denying the truth trying to save his relatives and letting his son rot somewhere unknown. 🙄🙄
No decent human being would kick a person out in that weather wearing That clothing under any circumstances never mind a family member.thats disgusting behaviour.
they didnt kick him out THEY KILLED HIM
You are soo correct! I could never do that!
From what i gather from the family its not curiosity that killed the cat but being so comfortable to there naive behavior
that being said, I couldn't agree with you more, by the way, Canadian police took an unconscious native and dumped him in the alley behind the police station, wearing light clothing at best, in the dead of winter where he died of exposure. No charges.
@Shorne Pubique i would have to agree with you.
"Frank Paul was picked up by the Vancouver city police in December 1998 for being drunk in a public place. After his arrest, a sergeant at the city “drunk tank” refused to take him in. As a consequence, he was dragged to a police wagon and transported to a nearby alley where he was dumped and abandoned. Mr. Paul subsequently died in the alley from hypothermia. Mr. Paul was a New Brunswick Mi’kmaq native, who had a lengthy history of homelessness and alcoholism." Source -> bccla.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/20101123-McAllister-Report-Police-Involved-Deaths-The-Failure-of-Self-Investigation.pdf
The parents know it was the cousins. They're just scared shitless to admit it in public because his cousins are obviously psychos.
They know.
LOving sOUL or are scared to accept the fact that a family member she watched grow up would kill her son.
makes them orally complicit IMHO
No, it was the police.
There's no proof. I'm not saying he's innocent, but believing in something doesn't hold water in a court.
Yeah....the mother seems terrified.
They say that guy's brother Derek is still awkwardly chewing that same piece of gum till this day. He won't spit it out or stop showing it to people he's talking to on live television for no one!
Hes tweaked out
Such a very sad story. Not sure what's more disturbing, what happened to Dylan or his mum's lack of awareness or acceptance that her son's killer is among the family.
Obviously that kid never left that house alive, shame the family is in such denial.
I agree, a fight broke out at 4 in the morning in the house and then one of the people living in the house suddenly disappears, you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out that he was killed and his body disposed of!
That’s a hard pill to swallow. She is protecting herself.
I believe it's Dylan's dad sibling, as he was adamant the cousins weren't involved & the wife did but couldn't admit it.
To admit to believing the cousins were guilty instantly sever ties with family. The saddest part is, the wife cannot admit it as it would possibly end in her divorce.
colin not calling the police, not participating in the search, giving these statements-how is he not the prime suspect and investigated further?
Gee lucky Colin, the father of the victim and the police both helping Colin get away with murder,What did this poor Dylan do to deserve even his father choosing to be loyal to a murderer
Edmonton police didn’t do enough ..this case should’ve been solved within the 48 hours
What is wrong with Canada and their police depts? Dylan died at the hands of his own cousin. It's obvious . This family has been through so much! Thank you Fifth Estate for bringing these cases to the forefront.
Smug little cop "They had a command center set up" as he smirks. At least someone was doing your job.
Edmonton AND Calgary police remind me of Sacramento in the seventies when Sac. had a blank check to bang people around, throw kids in jail white or black, confiscate cars, and being a state capital they could do anything. Yes, the black muslims were a big problem, but the whole police culture was raw.
Exactly
Definitely seems like the first two detective dicks Mutt and Jeff thought the whole thing was funny in their interview. If I could have only reached though my screen...😡😠😡😠
Lol that one rubbed me the wrong way too.
Disgusting. As officers holding a license to kill, if I was his mother I would suspect them!!!
Who wants to bet that he never even left his house (alive)
Painful. Frustrating. And yes...it's obvious that Dylan was murdered by his cousins. DUH
I agree I’m sure the police could have had some way of searching that house
Here you have a seasoned detective at the end saying that he believes that it is a homicide and the father is absolutely sure that the cousins had nothing to do with it...weird family.
The family obviously knows each other better that any of us on the outside ever could but I also believe that they’re (especially his parents and siblings) genuinely good people who don’t want to think that a blood relative could have done this. With that said sometimes a stranger with no ties to a case has a better perspective and in this instance I would heavily lean on the oldest cousin, there’s a reason why he didn’t answer the door when the police later arrived at the house, and it’s the same reason why he wouldn’t allow Dylan’s girlfriend to come over to get her things, Dylan’s lifeless body was still there because the cousins was terrified and didn’t know what to do with the body. He also never reported his cousin missing because he wanted no connection with the police whatsoever, it’s like he was hoping it would all just go away if he ignored it, and thanks to absolute terrible police work that’s exactly what happened, that combined with the immediate family not suspecting that he could have done it, since the family didn’t push for it the police didn’t pursue it, plain and simple. After this much time the chances of getting answers is slim to none now, especially since his body has never been found and more than likely never will be found, at this point you’d need a miracle to get the truth.
"I'm not his keeper" is basically what Cain said to God... He did it.
evidence?
That's right!!!!
Lol...that sounds more like resentment at having to play the role of parent to a grown adult man who liked/was used to sponging off others. Not a motive to kill...motive to claim 'I don't give a crap...I am not going after him' ...b/c Dylan is not his responsibility. If Edmonton is a place that people frequently go missing, then it's entirely possible that someone offered to give him a ride then tried to get cash from him or something then leave him for dead somewhere.
colin absolutely did it. case closed in my opinion
Sad and so true.
Cases like this where it is so blatantly obvious who did it drives me crazy
Same! 🙋🏼♀️
1.) How long after the neighbour's disturbance call did the police find Dylan's wallet?
2-3.) On which neighbour's yard was it found, and from that point, how far were the K-9 dogs able to track his foot path?
4.) How long had the wallet been there?
5.) Were the police able to check it for fingerprints?
6.) How well known to the respective community were these five young adults?
7.) What kind of reputation had that house?
8.) What kind of vehicles did they drive/ride, if any? *We need to know more about Colin and his brother's tracks since the time of the 'disturbance.'
9-10.) As for the neighbour who called police about that disturbance - how well did he know the occupants, that house?
11.) Who, in the community, has a favourable view of that house? 12.) What do they "think" of that house?
13.) Had anyone else witnessed the disturbance?
14.) Have police ever needed to visit the home in the past, in response to a complaint or disturbance? If so, who made the call(s)?
Those are my questions for now. There's so little information. I'm going to watch it again. It might be Colin who is responsible for this, otherwise, it might be that someone "enticed" Dylan in to their home, or into their car: "Are you sure you don't want a ride?" or "Are you sure you don't want to come in?" He might have even been found unconscious, or in some way vulnerable. It seems that Colin does not want to be held to account for this. He and the others might have been really drunk; done something really bad. Or, it might be that they sent him off in a really bad state, impaired, injured, vulnerable. And he would have been naïve, only 21. Of the remaining four: one of them by now would have said something; blown a whistle.... I don't know.
Aunt Gaylene is the only person in that family not living in denial, sadly the fam are having those cousins at gatherings including remembrances for Dylan, not sure how long she'll be able to keep being civil to them all without losing her sanity.
At minute 1 you realize Colin the cousin killed him and discarded his body
Please, the cousin did it. Even after 9 years he wouldn't be interviewed. There is something more sinister brewing there. Why is the family afraid to call him out? The cousins days are numbered. They're coming to him
He was such a handsome young man and from what the family says he had the personality to match. Sorry to the family for their loss.
If you’re like me and have watched enough true crime documentaries or CZcams videos, it seems so painfully obvious what really happened here…
At 11:00 the police write off an extremely suspicious statement from the last person to see him alive... how do these guys keep their job?!?
Police neglegence😔
Do you think they even checked any possible construction sites around?
With a smirk nonetheless. 🙄
IM SORRY BUT THE PARENTS ARE A LIL BIT DELOUSIONAL , THE COUSIN KILLED HIM IMO...COPS DIDNT PRESS HIM ENOUGH..THE COUSIN WAS JUST JEALOUS OF DYLAN.
They were way jealous of him.....he had it all going for him...
I agree. ..n if they the parents esp the dad think that it was not a family member.....then all the best with finding who the murderer is. ..there'll be no closure for them.
@@aiseakonrote5381 YUP, EXACTLY!
why are you yelling?
@@passedtense436 HAHA, oh sorry I'm laughing out loud!
The cousin killed him and his body never went out the house and it will bared in the house .
My heart break how things end , it’s a really bad world .
I have one child and decided not to have more , I don’t want to hurt another kid with this aggressive world .
The more 5th Estate I watch the more horrified at the amount of incompetence I see across Canadian law enforcement agencies 🤷♂️
That investigator with his smirk on his face every time he speaks makes me want to smack him
He seems to be part of the coverup
Me too maybe he ain't got any kids!!!
smack him if you wanna get murdered
Welcome to the Canadian police force.
Rosy Zepeda absolutely agree!!
I'm from Edmonton and this is just scary and sad! The cousin did it and the cops need to get on it already. There is no justice for victims in Canada, you're on your own.
Everyone knows it and the mom is culpable too with her denial. Put a blowtorch to Colin's feet and you'll find out in 5 minutes. THere's no mystery here except why Edmonton cops aren't worthy of the name.
How come so many people go missing there?
@@hightopv1352our government and police are highly incompetent. We can't even defend ourselves in anyway here without being charged.
Same here in usa. You're better off investigating yourself than waiting for police to feel like it
Unfortunatley very good EVIDENCE is needed for a prosecutor to file a case.... there is only ONE chance to convict... if there is lack of good evidence, the perp goes free and cannot be prosecuted for that criem again, not even if great new evidence is found afterwards
The original detectives are smiling and nearly laughing.
Everybody should be after the cousin asking him for answers. He knows what happened to Dylan.
That cousin said “ dropped at a construction site”. Why didn’t they start looking at those??
Simply With Sonya I said the same thing out loud lol 😂
Rudy Zamora I mean ...... am I dumb for thinking that?
I’m no brain surgeon, and even I came to that immediate conclusion. He gave them the clue point blank and they (willingly) looked right passed it.
Rudy Zamora thats my point. Its so obvious. Sometimes I think certain things are left unsolved to just be left unsolved. They say they look at every clue and every lead. Well... what was the excuse for this one?!
I just don’t know that they were thinking. And it still be unsolved 🤦♂️
Wake up Family .... the Cousins killed him !
He didn’t walk out... he was carried!!!
Yes i agree
I completely agree! At least one of them in that house know exactly what happened! How can the parents be so nieve to think that not one of them people including family members dont know. So sad, I hope they open their eyes and realize someone knows
Monica Garcia somebody needs an electric chair....
Exactly.
Poor police response, skipped right over live-in cousin and their reported fight! 🤦🏼
Why did the police not respond right away?? And also, I am shocked how Dylan's family refuses to believe that his own relatives could have harmed him. Violence & betrayal from family happens every day. It's hard to stomach, but it's the sad truth.
Obviously his cousins killed him & the family is in denial.
every 5th estate video is just about the incompetence of canadian police
Just finished watching the one about John Connelly. Also very sad case
Google "fifth estate meaning". That should explain why every video is framed this way.
Birdie B. I am starting to find that out as I just started watching Fifth Estate documentaries. I just watched the one about John Connelly in Toronto where they rules his death as a suicide but if you watch the episode so many things don't add up! I can't even say the investigation was sloppy because there was no investigation!
Yup pretty much... How about the Dellen Millard episode, when the boyfriend of the ex-gf came forward with credible points why Dellen Millard should be a person of interest, they ignored it. If only they had followed up with it Tim Bosman would still be alive, and probably Wayne Millard
Helps to dismis the implication that Canada is some kind of all-loving paradise.
What happened to Dylan, happened at the house. He did not walk away.
i cant even imagine the torture his parents must be living with!
The police really dropped the ball on this case.
I bet they killed him on accident and are covering it up, i dont think he left that house on foot, they wouldnt let the gf come there to get her stuff either cuz they were prob cleaning up the scene and gettin rid of the body!!!!!
that was my thought too about not letting the girlfriend come in
krissy hake they killed him out of hate not on accident
Agreed. Since they did not want her there, they would have very pleased to give her the items that belonged to her and send her on her way
Or his dead body was there too!!! They knew she was dumb and silly and would not follow up!!!
@@happydayz7857 "EXACTLY!!!"
*The brother chewing his gum makes me sick. Gee.*
So disrespectful to do this while talking to journalists and giving recorded interviews
I was thinking the same thing.
NOTE TO SELF - If you have a friend or family member going through an ordeal with someone that turns violent check in on them every day! If it's a concern and you don't hear from them for 24 hours let everyone know including the police. Pop in and do a welfare check... If something bad happens and you leave it too long you'll never forgive yourself!!!
This is my opinion after watching the first five minutes of the story, the cousins killed Dylan and told the story that he left in the middle of the night. you don't have to be a rocket scientists to figure that out.
gabrielanunez ! ..right
gabrielanunez ! Keep up the good work.
Icywolfe nah cops are just terribly inept here
Yep. Definitely solves the fact that his cousin didn’t seem to care or wasn’t cooperative and didn’t report him missing
Indeed
I really wish just one of Dylans killers would at least call and anonymously report the location of his body so his parents can bury him and find peace again...
The problem with that (in any disappearance case) is that when the body is found there's the chance of the perp's DNA being on it. Even if the remains are skeletal, it's safer for a perp to not fess up to anything, even anonymously, because legally if there is no body found then there is no proven crime . So yes, it would morally be the right thing to do, but would only create potential problems for the perp.
@@MatthewNY94 actually they can still put together a case based on circumstantial evidence. They don’t have to find a body anymore. People got so sick of criminals getting away with murder because they hide the body that we are not buying that anymore. (When we know there’s been a crime committed.)
They should’ve just taken cadaver dogs into that house and sprayed luminal everywhere and they could’ve put together a case that way. Then separate all of the housemates and question them until one of them cracks.Case solved. The cousins killed their own brother.
The fact that the cousins don't wanna be interviewed tells me everything I need to know and the family members are so delusional
The smirk on the detectives face the entire time is infuriating
I googled to see if there has been any updates and their has not. The cousins def need to be looked at.
I’d hate to live in Canada law enforcement is worthless!!
There, there has not been. Not their
My prediction...that investigator will retire (or already has if you could not find any updates on the case) and the next one assigned will not want to waste time on such an old case. Cases that old are extremely difficult unless someone confesses. The cousin(s) got away with murder.
Sad
I hope mom is just playing nice and one night she nails their doors shut and barbecues them all
I’m not a legendary detective and I knew it was a homicide
He didn’t walked out that house alive! The fight might escalated and presumably got killed by his own cousin.
The police didn’t do a thorough investigation to cover up their own incompetence.
"I'm not his keeper" way to quote the dude who had just killed a family member dude. You're not suspicious at all.
Sounds like the Edmonton police didn't really want to get involved.
Never living in Edmonton.
@@deborahxavier-velez1630 Darn thats too bad, we really wanted you here.
@@radclayson I was thinking of Nova Scotia or Victoria. I lived in Winnipeg once.
@@deborahxavier-velez1630 neat. I was being sarcastic btw
Not the first time...their priorities aren't straight at all.
It's always family members, some people don't even know they are being hated on by cousins until it's too late... I don't have that problem, I know I'm hated by family members, knowledge is power, but it doesn't hurt any less..
You just know the cousins had some jealousy of Dylan. A good looking dude with a cute girlfriend always at the house. When they were drunk it all boiled over and they killed him.
with family like this who needs enemies...
Exactly!
He should have move out. Jealousy doesn't hide.
Facts
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i bet if they do solve this one a) it's family (probably colin as primary) and b) it'll end up on Investigative Discovery or Oxygen.
So the feelings of others are more important than finding your son, seriously what kind of attitude is that to have when the last person to see him alive was his cousin who he had a fight with and the other roommates.
What a handsome young man, Dylan, and his brother, Dad, a beautiful mom, and girlfriend... Beautiful family.
I hope this wasn't a jeleousy issue. This is heartbreaking. I wish he went with his feeling of wanting to leave, and left the moment he felt that. His cousins are hopefully not involved, but it seems so obvious they are the cause of all of this. I pray he is found, and found safely, even if he has amnesia 💝🙏💝
Its sad..but the cousin knows what happened and is not saying a thing. So many clues...not letting the girlfriend collect stuff, comment about people disappearing all the time and ending up on a construction site, not being there to help in the search and going skydiving instead....That poor young man is not going to turn up..ever and that cousin is just gonna let his family suffer..no shame, no heart...disgraceful.