Use the Cloud; Just Don’t Rely on the Cloud
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- ☝️ Online services, aka "the cloud", are often treated as if they are invincible. They're not. They represent a single point of failure that could cost you your data.
☝️ Don't rely on the cloud
Cloud services, while convenient, are a single point of failure. Relying on them alone can lead to data loss if your account is compromised, misconfigured, or the service provider experiences issues. The solution is simple: back up your data separately to avoid losing it permanently.
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0:00 Don’t Rely on the Cloud
0:25 You’re using it, whether you realize it or not
1:00 The cloud is someone else’s computer
1:40 It’s only in one place
2:55 If it’s in only one place, it’s not backed up.
3:20 The most common way to lose everything in the cloud
4:40 A frustrating way to lose things in the cloud
6:50 A rare way to lose things in the cloud
8:00 Cloud services have backups, but…
8:40 Back up
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We are completing the full circle and arriving at the same point. Backup. Backup. Backup. How we don't realise the importance of that and take things for granted until calamity strikes of kinds.
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Many corporates RELY on cloud - the other day an undersea cable went down and it took down the whole country here in South Africa.
Many years ago I used a cloud service that decided to change its plans and no longer offer service for the home consumer and focus only on business. They did give users several months to save all their data before they shut down
Have experienced similar. Very frustrating.
When I had an iPhone 4S my contacts were synched to the Apple cloud. Apple had a problem one day that deleted all of my contacts on their cloud (which they admitted was their fault). These deleted contacts were then synched to my phone - deleting all of my contacts on my phone. That day, I went out and bought another brand of smart phone and never used an Apple product ever again.
Sadly this can happen to any cloud provider be it Apple or Google or Microsoft. You should keep your own backups.
Store on device , SSD and/or HDD . So 2 backup is cool especially contacts is small size wise
don't put all your "eggs in one basket" or keep your data in just one place. Have you data backup in multiple places.
I use Thunderbird POP so I have saved on my computer.
I was an early adopter of hotmail, before Microsoft.
I neglected it for a year or something, and - poof! - all gone.
What about the data generated by some apps that are run out of the cloud? You end up having a mini ERP running on the cloud - your Books, CRM, DMS etc that one might be using. Some applications don't have a sync mechanism to your desktop or native backup features and operate natively from the cloud via browser.
My old xioami phone died suddenly, there I lost almost all my 2FA codes. No backup. Then like a snowball I lost access to all my other cloud accounts, mail, games, work, documents. No 2FA, no cloud.
Fortunately, most of my account providers were able to override 2FA and give me access when I provide some other authentication method, some need to delete some data or start from scratch. Unfortunately, about 20% of my data was lost, there was no way to override 2FA.
That data is gone forever in accounts that no one will be able to access. I was so dependent on the cloud and wanted to look so much like a tech savant that I forgot to back up to a physical disk for example. I learned the hard way.
Back up your most important data, like, right now.
Maybe want accounts that you can use or reach through a laptop or desktop computer?
It's a good idea to keep a backup offline such as on an external drive. If you violate Microsoft's or Google's rules, you could lose access to your data, so keep a backup copy. I recently read an article online where a person lost access to her documents on Google Docs/Drive because Google flagged her for a violation
That is why I don't use Google Docs, it's all online and saving it locally requires a work around, just to save it locally. I now use LibraOffice because I can save my work locally much easier. Just hit Con't+S, et voila, it's saved, or Con't + Shift+S to save as if a first save of a project, and it's on my internal drive under documents. I can then backup from that at a later date when I do backups, speaking of, need to do an incremental, now that I have a full backup done a couple of weeks ago, using EaseUS ToDo.
Created two email accounts on encrypted services, planning to use a dictatorial google less and less, moving most of my registrations elsewhere.
I follow 4 “tech” channels and you are my favorite because you don’t talk over my head. Even with my degree in office systems and applications, things evolve quickly in this area. My next “tech” purchase is a new laptop but I plan to go with Apple over my usual Windows (once Win XP and Win7 went away, I’m very unhappy). I’m considering a good SSD external drive for storage to cover the backups from both my Windows and Apple products. Online backups make me very anxious!😬
Get two drives and double backup, at least. I have a third one that is updated regularly. If that gets encrypted by a ransomware I have two more with the majority of my data, minus the most recent changes. Never going to pay to the criminals, ever.
@@D.von.N Thanks! I’ve been looking at a couple of options that have 4 bays for external drives. This is long overdue. I have 1 drive holding backed up data from 2020 I think, but from then to now, only cloud backup. I’m going to prioritize this little project. Again, thanks.
My (half) brother lost photos as a result of a cloud service getting shut down
And ive also had to help a different family member download their photos from a photo printing service
I do have some files on a cloud service (not Google Drive or OneDrive, a different one), but i have copies of all of those files on my main desktop PC (i have 4 desktop computers, as crazy as that sounds (athough one of them is more like half a PC as it is so slow)), and most of the data on my main PC is backed up to a NAS, and also a USB HDD
And that NAS came in handy when i was copying files between computers recently (even though i couldn't figure out what i had set the password for that user to (on the NAS), so i ended up having to export the saved credential from the other laptop so that i could import it onto the new laptop (i didn't want to faff around with resetting the password), the new laptop is one i purchased for a family member that i live with, and even though i had set the password for their user account on the NAS, i couldn't figure out what i had set it to)
I had never heard of a Desktop Email Program before. Which one should I get? Would you show how to synchronize it using IMAP.
thanks for this video. is google drive delete data from one drive without any message that u need to upgrade the capacity if its needed? google love the upgrade accounts - thay how they make money. isnt it?
I tell people have a backup of your data online....
You didn't mention the case of the service itself deleting your files. Like last year it was widely reported in news how Google Driver users lost files and Google couldn't find a way to recover all of their data. This same thing happned back then for iCloud. So it can happen to them again and to other providers. So keeping your own backups are necessary from a privacy perspective and also for data ownwrship. If you upload stuff to Google then it's them who own the data not you - it's written in their T&C
They do not own your data. Please cite the T&C that you believe says they do. And as the video points out, you should never place your date ONLY in any online service. It's your responsibility to keep backups.
@@askleonotenboom Leo, a year or so ago, I pointed out that the cloud service owns whatever data you upload to them. I believe it was related to OneDrive. You asked me to cite the language, and I did.
I am not going to hunt it down again, as the services do not place it on page 1, and they do not write it in layman's terms. They intentionally obfuscate it. In fact, the one I found on Microsoft's site was an image of that section's words. An accident, that they posted it as an unsearchable image? But I did provide it when you asked. I am kicking myself for not noting down where it was -- but I did not expect to be revisiting this.
Since it was an image, I had to type it out in the comments (no copy/paste due to it being an image, and these comments support only text).
By the services owning your data, they protect themselves with lawsuits. It allows them to scan your uploads, and allows them to benefit from any data that their scans identify as being useful to them.
A year or so ago, I owed it to you when you asked me to verify or cite my assertion that the cloud service owns your uploaded data. So I took the time and effort to dig up the language in their terms of service. I do not relish repeating that exercise.
How did I know that they own your uploaded data?
A host on a different channel showed examples of the cloud service's terms of service stating as such. But finding that host's video is also next to impossible. But I did post the exact language on one of your other videos, when you asked for it.
@@NoEgg4u EVERY language I've seen in T&C's gives them the permission to store your files, **because that's what they need to do to provide the service**. People constantly conflate that with ownership or other nefarious/conspiratorial intent. Nowhere have I ever seen ownership given. If you ever run across it again, let me know.
@@NoEgg4u They do not OWN your data they need to get your OK to store your data. This is per an attorney friend of mine. I spent quite some time on this issue a couple of years ago and realized that I wasted precious time in this rabbit warren.
From Microsoft Terms of Service: Your Content. Many of our Services allow you to create, store or share Your Content or receive material from others. We don’t claim ownership of Your Content. Your Content remains yours and you are responsible for it.
From Google's:1. Your Content
Google Drive allows you to upload, submit, store, send and receive content. As described in the Google Terms of Service, your content remains yours. We do not claim ownership in any of your content, including any text, data, information, and files that you upload, share, or store in your Drive account.
"Use the Cloud; Just Don’t Rely on the Cloud"
That is stupid effing advise! As soon as you upload anything to "the cloud" you give up you right to that data! What you upload will never get erased!
You do not give up your right to your data.
yes i use email hotmail aka outlook and gmail i also use mediafire