Miles Morales vs Peter Parker Boss Fight - SPIDER-MAN 2 (4K 60FPS) Ultra HD
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- Miles Morales vs Peter Parker Boss Fight - SPIDER-MAN 2 (4K 60FPS) Ultra HD
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#milesmorales #peterparker #bossfight #spiderman2 - Hry
Peter is so relatable in this game, the world keeps beating on him and he ALWAYS keeps pushing through because people need him. But the symbiote makes him feel like he can finally catch a break and feel good, but it only consumes him, like a bad addiction. I honestly felt like insomniac was trying to give us a deeper message, its to absolutely never give up on anyone but most importantly never give up on yourself.
A common complaint I've been seeing about the game's portrayal of Peter was that him needing to be saved cheapens him and makes him look weak, but I can't agree. The whole point was that Peter was standing all alone for so long and it took its toll on him, the game goes out of its way several times to drive that point home.
@@kartikayysoladesculpa boba
Been through that
I think it was definitely an allegory to drug addiction
@@thevagabond1314 i mean, the symbiote basically acts like an addicting drug throughout the whole plot
Everybody’s talking about how awesome Yuri’s voice acting is, but what about Nadji Jeter too? The way he totally projects Miles’ care for Peter and his utter desire to get his friend back, combined with his understanding of both Peter’s desperation and his grief is incredible.
Facts
He's always done a good job at Miles, but he really impressed me in this game. Bro was doing his thing, especially any scene with Martin Li.
Facts
Nadij and Shameik are just the perfect actors for Miles at this point.
Yuri and Nadji better get nominations for best VA istg their work in this game was spectacular.
Peter: “You just want the suit for yourself!”
Miles: “I already have a black suit.”
Miles: “All I WANT is to save you!”
Miles took peters n word pass
@@TheScribe1.0One of my favorite lines in this game.
Miles: “I don’t need a black suit. I already have the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.”
@@quackquackquack8913 Miles revoked Peter his pass
People who struggles with addiction would probably relate to this fight more. Peter wants to leave his addiction yet he can't, but with miles acceptance and support he finally did it. It's so touching to see miles never berrates peter or blame him, he just accepts it and let peter anger and frustation all out. Miles is essentially giving peter a shoulder to cry on, no matter how much it hurts. This is why miles is worthy of the title of spider man, he's got a genuinely good heart.
Well said
TMI but as an addict, yes. This scene and the entire symbiote arc hit fucking HARD. I think that was the subtext that Insomniac was going for because damn, I actually found myself relating to Symbiote Peter a lot. They did a great job.
@@generaljesus7669 i know insomniac has said that the symbiote story is a form of addiction, but I didn't think they would nail it this hard. It's almost too painful to watch how real it gets.
@@dantederi5062 dude I'm glad they did. It's real. I genuinely found myself understanding Symbiote Peter and could totally get where he was coming from, even if it was bad. THAT'S addiction.
@@dantederi5062get him miles ring bell
2:35 to 3:00 is so heart breaking. You can literally hear the anguish in Peter’s voice. He almost sounds like a hurt traumatized kid as he screams “BUT I’M NOT ANYMORE” it’s heartbreaking to see the voice shift to venom as well
Seriously that part is so damn good. Yuri did an excellent job making Pete sound so broken there. You can feel the pain, heartbreak, and isolation he feels not only in losing May. But losing the trust of the city he's working so hard to protect.
His angry talking voice sounds like Sasuke's angry talking voice from Naruto anime series(English dub version) mixed with Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man's angry talking voice from The Amazing Spider-Man movie series
Or maybe my ears having hallucination?
This spider man is the same voice actor as sasuke
I learnt that from yt not from hearing I watch naruto in spanish
@@LilJMooreLosing the trust of the city he have protected for 23 years
(P.S in Marvel spiderman Ps4 he protected the city for 18 years in 2018 plus 5 more years 2023)
@@Joyboy903nah Spider-Man is 8 years into his career in Spider-Man ps4 and Spider-Man 2 takes place 10 months after Miles game
I love that every fight with the Symbiotes become so emotional and real, it’s not quips and jokes, it’s two people genuinely connecting and it’s beautiful
its just monkey vs monkey from here
This battle made me like Miles immensely more than I already did. The way he doesn’t give up on Peter, and the compassion he shows him is inspiring.
Yeah I love how he doesn’t take what Peter is saying to him to heart. He knows it’s not peter talking and just wants to help him
It’s why he’s worthy of being a Better Spider-Man
@@DarkClassicGamerPS5 agagag woring sorry next day PS4 sorry I’m win
@@BlazeCooprI'm sorry, gfs? What are you talking about?
He dislikes the character but can’t think of something specific so he’s throwing everything to the wall and sees which one sticks
2:52 “You think I’m the problem? I’m the solution” that line gave me goosebumps
Same that was not a regular peter voice, that was not a regular venom voice...that was a hybrid of the two. THE MAN SOUNDED POSSESSED
@@donkeymonkey2518 Venom has always been two voices in one mind
Fr fr fr fr
He went straight Candyman in that moment
i am not in danger, miles.
i am the danger!
Yuri’s voice acting was INSANE! The rage, the pain, the aggression… Reminds me of Sasuke back in the old days; vengeance against Itachi and Danzo. Goosebumps and chills.
According to Yuri himself, his Sasuke voice was the driving force behind the “symbiote” voice for Peter.
@@TomTom2997 That was awesome. Scary, but awesome
Literally, he is the male version of Cherami Leigh. Cherami went from this softly spoken character like Makoto to female V, who is widly viewed now to be in the same realms as Doug Cockle (Geralt) in terms of voice notoriety.
Yuri is in a similar sphere. He voiced Ben in Ben 10 to Peter Parker.
The range on these actors/actresses is just phenomonal.
Yes I like it and I’m glad he don’t just sound like assume it’s the same VA but he sounds like Spider-Man not just him playing Sasuke Yuri is incredible
@@cbgg1585I wish the male voice of V, Gavin Drea, got more credit, he was fantastic too.
When Peter said "I can't!" in sheer anguish and agony after Miles told him he had to save himself, I honestly really felt that. Peter went through a lot in his life and at that moment all the man needed was a shoulder to cry on or a hug yet the symbiote was poisoning him and corrupting the control out of him, and he had no way to fight it. It was like he said later on, he almost lost himself and he was clearly terrified of it happening in front of Miles, the one guy that had his back 100% of the way and the one who was filled with the hope he needed to finally break free and gain control of his life again. Peter believing himself was restored all because of Miles' courageous heart and perseverance in not giving up.
Losing aunt may worst moment for Peter. That’s a rough life for anyone fam
When Miles said Peter was going to have to save himself, I couldn't help but remember when Peter said the same words to Otto.
Reminds me of the scene from Spider-Man 3 which Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man accidentally hit MJ while fighting with the club bouncers & MJ felt disappointed of him became aggressive then he go out of the club & start to feel the suit is corrupting him & go to the church tower to rip off the black suit
Keep in mind this Peter Parker is 25 years old. That's 10 years of being Spidey, ten years of having to assume responsibility for the death of his Uncle and being Spidey. Ten years of crime fighting and balancing his social life. Ten years of MJ and May possibly worrying about him when ever there's a threat. And then two years of almost losing the city to a virus that ended up killing his Aunt and be betrayed by two people that he cared about and learning that his friend wasn't in Europe but fighting for his lif medically. That's so much for one guy and I love how the suit just says "let it all go and be selfish for once"
Miles embodies what it truly means to be Spider-Man. Peter may be the original Superman and he’s a great one at that, but Miles is becoming one of the great Spider-Man so far in how he’s being portrayed he deserves the title.
Yuri was gunning for that Voice Actor award. He didn't have to go THAT hard
What are you yapping about? Cringe boy.
Man it's yuri, of course he had to!
Yuri always gives me goosebumps his performances are astounding 🙌🏻
Insomniac gave us more than just a fight between two spider men. They gave us a fight between brothers and the constant struggle that we fight everyday on the inside. Peter has been fighting to protect not only his city but his own life as well and the deaths of those who he lost. but luckily he had his brother to help bring him back
Miles represents the still cheerful Spiderman that hasn’t been broken down and Peter represents a man wanting it to end
This is exactly why I disagree with people who think Miles and Peter should have separate stories apart from one another. In this game you can see how much of a strong bond they have and how much they make one another better. Having two different Spider-Men with their own stories to tell interwoven with one another has so much story potential, and I’m glad Insomniac sees that.
@@ethansolorzano5989Yeah, and it's not like Peter retires as Spider-Man at the end. He actually just takes a break, a well deserved one
A heartwarming fun fact that I love sharing is Yuri actually calls Nadji his little bro!
@ethansolorzano5989 we clearly see in Miles' mind he too feels immense guilt for his past and even pushed his hatred onto Martin Li. It's only when he accepts and tells Li the truth he realises it's no one else holding him back, it's himself and when Li realises he's become the man he swore to kill(Norman Osborn) he gives Miles the chance to kill him yet he says no. Perfectly placed imo. Given the fact Peter was at his lowest point when they next met.
Symbiote Peter at some points was legitimately scary. This game is incredible man
Agreed. One part in particular is when MJ tased him in his sleep and he “Run” in Venom’s voice. Creeped the hell out of me. And the chase scene that followed scared me even more. Felt like I was playing Resident Evil.
@@TheScribe1.0 The scene before the Kraven fight where he has that one Hunter on the ground is terrifying too, the way he creeps up on the guy and goes "WHERE?!!!!!!!" and lifts a jeep over his head.
@@TheScribe1.0Needed more of that honestly
@@chazo1367 I think that guy peed himself a little.
@@demi-fiendoftime3825 Probably so, but I’m still happy with what we got from that.
Around 2:43 is really powerful delivery. Not only do we hear peter's rage and aggression but it was nice touch to have venom speak through peter to show how far the symboite has corrupted him at this point.
That voice acting is fantastic, I could feel the anger and sadness
“Now the city thinks that I’M the problem”…so GOOD
@@DarkClassicGamer*YOU think I'm the problem!*
@@creeperplayz5742 I'm the solution!
Powerfully crappy.... these writers clearly don't understand Spider-Man and want to make him play second fiddle to a literal ripoff woke race swap version of himself
I wasn’t fighting for the sake of the game, I was fighting to save my childhood hero.
This….this is the feeling I felt, thank you !
I’ll drink to that brother.
Ok
Same!
Facts
Miles trying to find his place in the world while peter was trying to help everyone.
I love this game.
Same, this game is a masterpiece.
@@kijanajenkins2546Don't be a clown. It is called Spider-Man. Not Spider-man and his amazing friends. You forgot to mention the terrible missions that has nothing to do with Spider-man. 😂😅😮
@@SkykunDAthe game is great. Shut up you didn’t even play it
@@SkykunDAbro what are you even on about
@@SkykunDAJust go back to your Spider-Man 2 roleplay in starfield.
“IM THE HERO! I DONT GET SAVED!!!” Gah DAMN I felt that!
That's a line Homelander would say
@@shottathakid1898"you know what miles? Jump"
@@dirtydan4519everybodys gangster untill the symbiote tells you to run 😂
I'm the one who knocks
Fighting the guy (Peter) that you’ve been controlling these past 2 games feels so refreshing. I like how you can do the moves you normally do on NPCs like, swing kicking, venom dash, web yank, etc , plus the new moves on Peter. By far my most favourite boss battle. Definitely a step up from just dodging and spamming square in the first game
And his movement is mostly things you can do when you're playing as him so it's like fighting another player
You can also do the wall kick barrage, but you have to time it with the bell or with the help of ricochet web. It was glorious whe you land it.
Take notes naughty dog this is how you have your 2 main characters fight 😂
@@dantederi5062 really? Dang. Cuz I tried doing it but the animation would only play for a split second then he would parry or push me off. I did it with Scream/ MJ tho
@@jc_hills1540 that's why I time it with ricochet. You know how ricochet staggers him for a bit? It's like a 5 seconds stagger window if you're hitting him with a fully upgraded ricochet. Then do the move while the ricochet is still firing.
I actually predicted this when I finished the first Spiderman game. But this really exceeded my expectations. One thing I noticed is that you can tell Pete is still hurting from May. When he says her name, it sounds painful.
Pretty sure everyone else predicted it too
@@yourefatmom6159yeah lol as soon as the venom was announced we knew that this fight would go down
Yeah ngl I figured Miles was gonna be able to help Peter fight off the symbiote. Nonetheless they did it perfectly.
@@spongebobsquarepants2981tbf he had a bell
This fight ended up being ten times better than Pete’s fight with Otto.
In terms of gameplay, but emotionally, they’re both strong entries.
I feel like Peter vs otto was sadder, there was a higher chance of saving Peter than otto.
@@heshotfirstPeter was very close to ending up like Harry
The Phin theme made me more sad
Lol cap no one cares about igger-man
"I'm the hero,I don't get saved"
Coldest line I've heard in a while.
The thing I like the most about this boss fight is that it isn't meant to a difficult boss that takes you multiple tries to beat. It's meant to be emotional because without this suit he feels useless that without he's nothing. But with this symbiote Peter feels powerful and thinks he can finally protect everyone he loves. But the symbiote was taking over his mind and he started doing more harm then good. The voice acting in this almost brought me to tears tbh
I played it on the hardest difficulty and it definitely took me a few tries to beat
I was playing on Amazing difficulty and it took me a couple tries on the 3rd and last stage
Every boss took me a while, but I liked the challenge. I thought the other games bosses were too easy so I liked having to learn from my mistakes.
The fight literally everyone was dreaming of... And it ended up being better than we imagined!
Not really. Feels like major PIS on my side. Like that Trigon losing to Bizarro fight
@@aranha6285I think this is more of a fight to fans that like Spider Man
@@aranha6285no
@aranha6285 Another idiot mad because “Peter lost to Miles” even though Peter WANTED to take off the suit and Miles was exploiting BOTH of its weaknesses but okay. If anything is stupid here it’s you
@@aranha6285Peter was weaker than normal because of his fight with Kraven, intentionally holds back throughout both fights, and Miles used the bell to his advantage.
When Peter started talking in Venom’s voice, absolute chills…
Yuri's voice acting reminds me of Tobey's. His screams etc...
I said that the first time I heard him scream Harry’s name lol
I had the black Tobey suit on and it genuinely felt like I was watching a Raimi Spider-man movie lol
It’s the nostalgia talking. Tobey’s performance pales in comparison
@Moth590 What? Tobey's screams have always been great, and he did amazing with the symbiote. I actually feel that Yuri overdelivered his lines a lot, and it, frankly, made me cringe quite a bit. Tobey's anger felt way more believable than Yuri's, it's almost like the only way Yuri knows how to portray anger is by talking like Batman
All I hear Is the last uchicha/ emo sasuke 😂
I can’t express how f*cling happy the way this fight turned out. Peter having lost so much in the first game but still pulling through and putting the safety of everyone before himself then comes the suit to ease his pain away to avoid feeling powerless. The symbiote is a perfect metaphor for addiction since Peter makes it seem like he can’t live without it and it’s so human and relatable… if anything, this fight is just someone telling their friend to get their sh*t together and not give in and man, this game had the balls to pull off a bigger risk with the character of Peter Parker since Spider-Man 3 and the Spectacular Spider-Man. 👌
I felt a lot of emotions of the line of " I was just trying to save everyone, MJ, May, the city thinks I'm the problem, You think I'm the problem?! I'm the solution!" Because I deal with this too when it comes to trying to be there and save everyone. Feeling like you aren't there when they need you and you won't dare to comfort them is one of the worst things ever. He feels so alone and abandoned He feels so alone and abandoned That he uses the symbiote to just protect people and feel good about himself and feel like the hero but the symbiote is consuming him and making him more depressed and angry and sad. I can tell that he was trying to hold back his tears and just was mentally and emotionally breaking down of anger, sadness, regret, guilt and shame, and with the symbiote it doesn't help at all. And I love how miles is here to help him. He isn't trying to steal the spotlight and try to become a better hero than he is And at the end I wouldn't say that miles won This wasn't a fight to see who can defeat the other this was a fight between a Peter who needs to get the symbiote off him and he even stopped ringing the bell knowing that Peter is more stronger than he thanks and he was able to remove off the symbiote, Showing that he's not alone and He doesn't need symbiote to make him feel like hes strong and hes a hero and feel confident and maybe even self-centered at moments. It's about being here and doing the right thing and being good. Spider-Man it's just a superhero title. But the person behind the mask is really the person with the emotions and the person has feelings too. And for Peter that's no exception. And miles says it best he thought that the suit and the powers would save everyone but it doesn't work like that at all. Myles wants Peter to know that a hero isn't invincible when it comes to emotions that they're here to talk and to just be there. To not feel like you're just a big screw up. To actually feel human instead of a superhero. And I really do like the symbiote to represent a drug That Peter is using to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel stronger but when that drug Changes his mind and emotions and changes the way he acts and thinks and feels he becomes more Violent and more attached to the suit since he like he said he can be everyone's favorites and best Spider-Man so you can protect everyone at the cost of himself and his relationship with others. And I want you to know if you're reading this that if you're going through something like Peter there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You got this you can break through This addiction of things like drugs or alcohol and know that you're way more nicer and more kinder than you think. This is a great game if not one of the best games of this year and I believe in all of you. I want you to know that you're not alone and that YOU'RE A WORK OF ART 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!!!
Thats a long ass comment 💀
@@subject9669 Because this game is that great! Story and all!
@@scarletlion1318Agreed. 🕷️🕷️
Amazing essay!.
I’m glad you wrote this because I couldn’t figure out the best way to describe how I was feeling during this scene and why it hit me so hard. Thank for this bro! You don’t understand how much your comment means to me❤
What I really love about this fight is the fact, that it is still mostly Peter who is talking. Venom just strengthens his emotions, his pain and anger. That is what makes this fight hit hard on an emotional level.
I love how not only both of their themes play throughout the fight, but they've been altered to fit this fight perfectly. 10/10 boss fight
I'm so proud of this kid, man. Taking down an enhanced Peter Parker by himself is insane. The city couldn't be in better hands.
The venom blast powers definitely helped. Venom vs venom.
That bell and his venom powers helped tremendously.
yeah its amazing people are forgetting that detail or most likely choosing to ignore it@@tony9622
Thanks to bioelectricity and bell sounds
Without it I'm not sure it'd be a fair fight
The sounds absolutely was a game changer for miles. Without it this fight would've ended
Literally just did this fight. It was absolutely brutal on Spectacular Spider-Man Difficulty
Ong lol spectacular mode was fking hard lol
Nah its not that bad, once you master parrying
Honestly this whole game was so much harder than the other 2, and I really liked it for that
@@Gary31045it’s hard when they switch between a parry and a attack you can’t block 😂
@@darkpromeathean937okay I know "skill issue" let's get that out of the way, but I find the parrying in this game so damn difficult. Which is wierd to me cause I've played games like sekiro where parrying is so essential and it was rarely a problem. In this game parrying just feels wrong to do in my brain, I automatically want to dodge any attack no matter what. Maybe cause the first 2 games or maybe cause dodging just seems like the more Spidey thing idk.
This fight had me in tears man!!!! 😭😭😭The way it was just presented and the music that fit this whole thing. Miles wasn't just fighting Peter, he was fighting the demon inside of him. This has to be my favorite part of the game hands down. The student fighting the master to realize his wrong doings. I don't think any other game is gonna achieve this much greatness than this one boss fight.
6:15 *“I… can’t…!”*
Christ, the way Yuri delivers that line… he sounds so hopeless and hurt.🥺😢😭
Really love Peter’s dialogue. Even if it’s just the Symbiote warping his mind, there’s some merit to what he says.
“All I wanted was to save everyone!”
“Now this city thinks I’M the problem.”
Can’t help but feel this one runs in the back of Peter’s head even without the Symbiote. My only wish was that Yuri or Li were able to be written in a way that they helped Miles in this fight because
A) Miles beating a Symbiote spider-man alone feels absurd
B) It would feel like they’re repaying Peter. He saved them and now they get to save him.
EDIT: Figured I’d say that personally if it was up to me, the Peter boss fight should’ve gone a lot more like Nightwing vs Batman in Batman Bad Blood. Miles gets folded in the physical confrontation, but his words are what bring Peter back. While the gameplay has Miles winning, cutscenes clearly indicate he’s getting stomped.
Wraith being in the main game for something like this would have been neat.
Well, Miles was the only one to really defeat Peter and get him to really come to his senses. With effects that Mister Negative's powers had on Miles, he actually became stronger that Peter. Even Li said that the symbiote was in fear of his power
Well I think of it as I don’t see it really impossible miles beating a symbiote Peter cuz Peter is holding back significantly. If he didn’t then miles would surely be dead
Miles beating symbiote spiderman is pretty possible when he has the bell on his side.
@@Bloodhurl67 that’s like saying Batman should be Superman in a random street encounter just because he has kryptonite. Miles beating Peter doesn’t bug me. It’s just the way it’s handled. He already (presumably) got beaten by Kraven and yet he’s capable of beating a Symbiote Spider-Man right after?
I was so proud of Miles in this fight. Miles bossed up and held his own. I love that they call each other Spider-Man in the game. Its clearly a respect thing.
I agree but I think it's also a don't reveal identities thing haha
@@EatingPie24 Ahahaha of course! 👍🏾 But I mean like...He's not called another code name like Webs or Silk or Scarlet Spider ya know?
@@OmegaBlaccWhich is bad in my opinion
@@aranha6285 You would prefer that Miles receive his own code name?
@@OmegaBlacc Yup. The problem is coming up with something cool
What makes this fight so great is what peter says at the beginning of the game "well stress sometimes sounds like anger" this whole game peter has been put through the ringer, lost a job, loosing his best friend and a powerful villian coming along to just add insult to injury. Meanwhile miles is so concerned in the past by him hard focusing on li. But by miles facing li and miles personal demons he is able to overcome and move forward. With miles being in that state makes him the perfect person to bring peter back. Miles knows peter is stressed, see the effect these past few days/weeks/years has been affecting him. Then adding the symbiote turns a stressed out peter into an angry and overall selfish peter. Miles sees what he went through with li in peter and how he deals with kraven. Showing how far miles has come by bringing his mentor back from the brink and becoming his own hero/man.
The soundtrack, the themes and the voice acting conveys so much to the viewer! This is just a fantastic game!
I knew there’s a gonna be a fight between Peter and Miles.
I’ve been dreaming of the day where I get to deliver the most badass ass-whooping on insomniac Peter Parker in the symbiote suit. Once I get the game, I won’t hold back in unleashing all of Miles’s power and strength on him!
It was super obvious is gonna happen
@@ZombieN8YTur not lol ur miles fighting Pete
@@hotmcfly9247 That’s what I meant bro
@@ZombieN8YT then say that u put all that extra shit miles beat Pete miles is a lot stronger than him aswell
I think that people seeing this fight purely as some power scale battle between Peter/Miles are missing the point. There’s no need to justify Peter losing to miles when the fact Miles actually prevailed shows how strong of a mentor Peter is. Miles encapsulates all of Petes BEST values, bestowed upon him by Pete. Miles defeating peter is TESTAMENT to the ladders teaching prowess. There’s no need to look at it purely from a comparison of physical strength, when Pete “losing” still shines light on his character
It would be fine if the whole rest of the game didn't have peter getting his ass kicked and miles excelling in every cutscene
@@Skywalker-lz5qj Miles is kidnapped by kraven and disappears for at least 3 missions, I think your overblowing the imbalance between these two
@@ColonelCosmology That's the one instance miles is portrayed as not being able to handle everything and its not like he even loses an onscreen fight kraven beats him offscreen and when he is kidnapped he is stabbed in the back by a person whom he just saved. You cherry picked the one one section in the game where peter is found helping miles and not the other way around and even then the sections of miles being out of his league aren't even shown.
@@Skywalker-lz5qj Miles nearly got his ass eaten by Sandman? Got whooped by Kraven? Fought Symbiote Peter and in the end had to spam the bell to win? Then had to get Peter’s help to beat Venom near the end?
I totally agree!!!! That's why I love this fight! It's not for Peter or Miles to win or lose, it's for miles to help Peter get rid of the Symbiote!
I like how sometimes the subtitles change to Spider-Man to Peter. Sometimes it's the symbiote who's talking, sometimes it's Peter with Venom's voice
ikr
Oh shit, I didn't notice that!
This fight is literally Spider-Man at his breaking point, and the only person around to pull him back from the edge is his plucky mentee who'd already gone through the struggle of overcoming his feelings of grief & powerlessness
Lots of people mentioning peter's va but i also love how throughout the fight miles sounds desperate, struggling and emotional, those exchanges of dialogue were amazing
That's our boy!!!!
Miles Morales came a long way, leave it to him to break Peter free of the Symbiote. Had a feeling it would play out this way but that doesn't take anything away from this fight at all. Epic!!!
Honestly it’s better to have it be epically predictable then to subvert expectations that only hinders the writing
@@jordantalbot6344miles should have lost and had peter about to kill him and then peter is able to get venom off as he cant kill miles
@@meshman4236nah miles won this version is better
@@meshman4236cope
@@meshman4236 in retrospect miles is technically stronger than Peter
Pete just has the experience edge
This fight was both incredible and heartbreaking!!! But I’m proud of Miles, he never gave up on Peter ONCE! EXACTLY how Spider-Man is: He NEVER gives up, even when the odds are against him
the developers made Peter weak, in fact Peter > Miles
4:24 man just wanted pete to answer his calls man
The fact that Miles looks up to Pete so much makes the boss fight more painful
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
7:52 Spider-Man 3 reference
Fr!!! Felt like watching spider man 3 all over again
Except this is a more awesome version of the spiderman 3 movie scene with the bell tower
Best scene ever
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
Except miles is not in that scene and Peter is saving himself
"I NEED this suit! It makes me a better Spider-Man! You just want it for yourself!"
Bruh thats some straight up addict shit. This games writing is peak, no idea how they topped the first one.
Mile : iron Man was right, if you are nothing without the suit then you shouldn't have it
I absolutely loved the MHA reference at 4:30
I had the biggest grin on my face when I caught that. Such a good fight.
that scream at 7:34 sounds so genuine that it hurts
I like how Miles started stuttering when Peter looked at him. Like, dude, you're about to fight your hero.
You can just feel the fear.
When Miles said Peter was going to have to save himself, I couldn't help but remember when Peter said the same words to Otto.
yes peter chose to save himself by getting rid of the suit ive seen alot of people say peter is weak in this one but i think he's strong
Look at the later scene where Peter lands on the Oscorp tower’s roof, right before the birth of Venom. He pauses and gives a look at the destroyed antenna from the first game’s final battle. The battle against Otto. He fully realizes that he almost suffered his mentor’s fate.
My favourite thing about this is how none of this darkness originates from the symbiote. All of it is Peter’s frustrations and anxieties twisted and warped through a horrific lens to produce the worst result possible.
That has the same vibe as Vader and Obi-Wan's duel at the end of Kenobi
The dark side and Venom are the same. Drugs that can control your soul and give you severe God Complex
I was so happy that this was a boss fight. I thought another cool boss fight they could've added would be like in the Spectacular Spider-Man, when Peter as Spider-Man fought a symbiote version of himself. That would have been amazing.
I mean, that’s what this is. Miles represents both himself and the best part of Peter.
I REALLY wanted this to be in the Game mainly because of how I feel it could show how Miles contrasts with the Symbiote, and by Jove it delivers. The dialogue and the action is exactly what I was hoping for this kind of boss fight.
Had a feeling this was gonna be a boss fight, Im a peter parker fan more but damn miles has proven his worth to me as spiderman these past couple years.
This is much better then the movie when he had to deal with parasite by himself i think its a nice reminder that no matter how strong he is peter is still human and he even needs to be saved at times and thats why he had loved one to save him😊
This fight was so fucking hype
If your 5 yeah
@@buttertoast1146 I guess I’m 5 🤷🏾♂️
@@buttertoast1146x box fan
2:17 that head tilt is so creepy I love it, and just the voice acting is so superb
The emotional weight of this fight was beautiful “I just wanted to save the city, May, MJ, EVERYONE! And now they think IM the problem” you can literally hear the pain in peters voice. Impeccable voice acting from Yuri and Miles character really shined as the best friend Peter could ever ask for in this situation. It’s so good. Keep it up insomniac.
This is a far more impactful and emotional way for Peter to overcome the Symbiote than what we've seen in most other media. This ties with Spectacular Spider-Man.
The fact that it's Miles who brings Peter around, especially since Miles JUST faced Mister Negative, is so fitting.
no at all, this is Peter’s humiliation, they made it weak for the sake of the plot
That word choice is so important in what Peter says "I'm the hero I don't GET saving" not I don't need saving
4:48 i love the music in the part u can hear getting higher as u think miles is about to save peter but when peter screams NO it falls back into sadness and despair
2:42 when peter says that and venom speaks for him, i imagine that he both means that he is the solution of the city and when venom speaks, it feels like he is telling that he is the solution to Peter. That makes it so badass for me.
That’s the difference between Peter and Venom hosts, Peter saw the symbiote as power while symbiote truly believed at kin with him but they were never compatible.
Because in his normal voice symbiote is synchronizing with him
Something that I love Insomniac does is make certain scenes, if paused, look like perfect comic panels/cover pages, especially at spots like 2:08, 2:30, and 4:14
2:30 was 🔥
The entire second phase, the music, the dialogue, the intensity it’s perfection. First time I played it I had chills and it was hard to actually focus on the fight
7:20 this scene is just beautiful
7:21
@@aidencano5410the scream
@@aidencano5410yuri really went for it man like I got chills
50% This is so touching
45% The voice acting is incredible
5% Why doesn't Miles just keep hitting the bell over and over?
Because he’s incredibly uncomfortable with how it’s making his best friend/mentor screech in absolute agony.
Also, Peter web the bell if you hit it to much
I dont think anyone would like torturing their friend by putting them in uncontrollable pain, just listen to Pete’s screams 7:20
I always knew Miles Morales is the only one to save Peter Parker from the corruption and addiction of the Symbiote suit.
Peter got rid of it by himself already... what an imbeciIe thing to say.
No
No.
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Yes
0:21 Ngl, I actually felt bad for Miles when Peter gave him that look. He’s about to get killed by his mentor, someone he’s looks up to and taught him how to be a hero
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
0:42 I like how he says “always in da wae”
😂😂 I see that reference!
@@SonicFrozen_Fan2005_Officialknuckles
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
4:32 Miles pulled a move from Bukugo in the Deku vs Bakugo fight from MHA season 4. Pretty sick
After years of MHA referencing Spiderman now Spiderman references MHA.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788It's coming full circle. 🕷️⚡
Literally I was wondering if anyone was going to point that out
My first thought. So unbelievably sick
It's actually season 3 😅
Yes!!! I knew there’s gonna be fight between them!!!!
2:52 GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME
This part gave me goosebumps too man
Chills down my spine 😮
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
Peter: I'm finally everything everyone needs me to be!!!!
Miles: Yeah? You don't even answer my calls anymore, man!
I have a best friend that works full time, takes care of a house by himself with a wife and a child (another one is on the way). He works at an energy plant for 12 plus hours. He calls me everyday single day, just to talk or make jokes. I asked him why did he like calling me so much and he basically said that he just didn't want to feel alone or overwhelmed.
He taught me that sometimes, its not about being a hero, or trying to say the right things. Sometimes, its just *being there* that matters. Being a shoulder to cry on or a brother to stand with. When I got to this point, I actually cried for Miles because *I GET IT.* Being a hero means more than fighting darkness alone. Its about fighting darkness together.
The only reason why Peter lost is cause he wasn’t healing 😭
Nah he had 3 phases. His health went back up because he consumed a focus bar
Peter wasn't in control at this point, this was venom in peters body
@@youngsy4604yea so it's only the symbiote's brute strength, none of peter's fighting prowess and skill are present.
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037 I will say tho miles held his own and due to his sheer speed I could put him above black suit Peter, not entirely sure about anti venom Peter but I think it's very close. Miles has much more utility and whilst the anti venom has the healing factor, i still got my boy over Peter but it's very close and honestly interchangeable
@@youngsy4604Nah my guy, Miles had a whole big ahh bell. And the only reason Miles performed better than Peter against Venom
Is because the whole game is about Peter being at his worst. While Miles is at his best. And the final fight. Peter doesn't want to fight his best friend. Or even hurt or kill him. He almost did...
not gonna lie the boss fights in general are so much more fun and difficult (if you play it on spectacular) to play
Yeah I’ve been having a ball playing on Spectacular. Favorite boss fight so far has been against Kraven.
Venom in all his glory WITH WINGS. His boss fight(s) were the pinnacle of this game.
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 mine miles vs martin li
Dude it was so fun and but it was kinda hard once you get to Martin Ku the boss fights get challenging the only one that was easier was venom vs Kraven it was kinda op
@@thedarkestknight8381venom was too op while you played as him which is why the venom vs kraven fight was too easy
"You're in the way Miles!" - "If you're not with me then you are my enemy."
"I could have fixed everything! I'm the hero. I don't get saved." - "I've brought peace, freedom justice and security to my new empire!"
"Trying to mentor me!" - "Don't lecture me Obi-Wan."
"You're not better than me!" - "I hate you!"
"I need this suit. It makes me a better Spider-Man. You just want it for yourself!" - "I see through the lies of the Jedi."
"Why are you doing this?" - "I should have known the Jedi were plotting to take over!"
"All I wanted was to save everyone. MJ, May, now the city thinks I'm the problem! (Symbiote: You think I'm the problem.) But I'm not anymore! (Symbiote:I am the solution.)" - "All I wanted was to save everyone. Padme, my mother, now you think I'm the problem! (Vader: You think I'm the problem.) I found a way to save them from the nightmares! (Vader:I am the solution!)"
2:31 that shot thoo!!!!
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
8:21 the soundtrack here made me emotional, plus hearing peters real voice, it felt good having our kind hearted peter parker back
No one commented on this, but the song that plays is called “Sacrifice”, it first played after Peter was stabbed and killed by Kraven. The Symbiote saves Peter, but in turn turned him into a monster. Now playing a second time after Peter removes the Symbiote and he returns… this is his proper return as he defeats the monster. In a way, Peter was more of a walking zombie and still truly dead UNTIL he got the monster off him. The symbiote saved Peter but turned him into a villain, while the real Peter died but returned as a hero
The music throughout this entire boss fight was phenomenal. I think it might be my favourite tune in the soundtrack, this and Midtown Madness, that’s the music that plays throughout the first fight with Venom with Peter at Midtown High.
What's the name of this soundtrack tho? I tried searching up but found nothing lol
@@sammyboy_samik3554 it’s called “Fighting Back.”
Need to know the name of the track
@@mdr1973 I just told the other guy what it was called.
@@sammyboy_samik3554”Fighting Back”
“You think I am the problem? I am the solution!” Great line with tony todd!
This fight ended exactly the way it should. Miles may have given him the push but it was Peter himself who tore off the symbiote.
2:46 top tier emotional voice acting right there. The venom voice is too fire
"I stopped pulling my punches, I got ragefull.... I got bitter"
My favourite part of this whole sequence is the bell. Before this, when fighting Kraven, he uses the bell constantly to stun you, and it’s so goddamn annoying. But in this fight, you remember the bell still exists, and remember that Peter is weak to it, and so, you try the bell. And it works. Intuitive game design 10/10.
4:24
Miles: You don't even answer my call anymore, man!
This feel like he took it personal 😆
I knew this had to be coming. But I was so hyped when that health bar showed up. And my God, John Paesano’s music is so emotionally raw and makes the dialogue hit harder.
This game has so many good boss battles
Seriously, all of the bosses in this game have been so good
@@Bloodhurl67 bro fr
Ikr, Insomniac know their shit. I hope they'll never stop making Spider-Man games.
God I love Insomniac so much. A couple of the boss battles in the last game were misses but so far (I’m at the scene here) there has not been ONE miss
@@Phasmaniathe rest of the boss battles after this one in the main story are just as good as the ones up til this point
After watching the Game Awards last night
Yeah Yuri Lowenthal was **robbed** of best voice performance cuz I mean
The video speaks for itself here
Yuri really deserved that award
Miles really felt like the heart and soul of this game
I absolutely LOVED this moment and the arc Peter went with the symbiote. I heard some fans thought it was rushed, but I disagree! We had some time with the suit showing it's pros and how it made Peter stronger, we had some times with it warping his mind and making him more aggressive, and then finally the suit nearly takes over with Peter forced to remove it. I know alot of people had a problem with Miles beating Symbiote Peter on his own....and this might be controversial, but...what if it's because Miles is simply stronger? Of course Peter has more experience and will always be the original, but Miles's powers just might out class Peter even with the symbiote. Heck Miles's venom stings already give him a much needed edge against the Symbiote. All in all, I thought everything was handled beautifully!
Anakin vs. Obi-Wan. Anakin's more powerful, but Obi-Wan has more experience.
Yet Obi-Wan won that duel on Mustafar.
This is an inverse of that duel.
It’s a Woke garbage moment. Peter is leagues above the cringe Milo, idk how this is even a discussion. Amazing game ruined by political bs.
@@worlds_greatest_detective6667 It's Miles, dude.
The only political crap I've seen in it are the Pride, BLM, and transgender shit seen in the streets and one of the side missions.
@@McFrozenNuggets Symbiote Spiderman literally obliterates him lmao.
Sorry but any Spiderman fan knows not only is Peter already stronger than Miles alone. the Symbiote Spiderman would literally kill Miles. It was a poor decision
Miles is the MVP of the entire game
True, Peter got carried too much in this game, hope he gets his redemption in the next game
@@chrissu441how did he get carried lol? If miles got the suit he would’ve probably died already. Let’s not kid outselves. Peter is still better lmao
@@Julian_14naw in the comics miles symbiote suit is Carnage he goes harder
@Julian_14 But miles didn't get the suit. Peter did. And Miles was the one that kept his cool.
Be realistic instead of being a fanboy. Miles was being the hero for the first half of the story.
Yea they nerfed Peter again, before miles came around peter never needed help and has beaten all these villains solo for 50+ years in comics games and films
This is my favorite part in Spider-Man 2. You can just feel the emotion as both Peter and Miles fight each other. Not to mention, I love how Peter took the suit off, it was very traditional.
I can't be the only one who thought "I made you" is crazy, I know it's not Peter talking but still, I never expected those words to come out of his mouth, also hearing Pete's voice when he was talking about how he wanted to save everyone,but the city thinks that he's the problem,it also sounded like a bit of him was crying, Yuri is just a God at this, now isn't he? 😢
idk why people are confused by miles "beating" peter, peter was exhausted and practically mindless thanks to the symbiote while miles kept hitting the symbiote with its main weakness (sound) and a lesser weakness (electricity) throughout the entire fight
that's like saying someone shouldn't beat superman after stabbing him with a kryptonite dagger and then blasting him with magic
edit: for reference, I say beating with quotes because Miles didn't actually beat Peter, he just weakened the symbiote enough for Peter to be able to rip it off. Peter was not left out for the count after their fight concluded
Right the dude still have a glimpse of humanity left in here to hold back during the fight 2. Note he doesn’t wanna kill miles and he’s explaining himself throughout the fight including ur points of fatigue and weaknesses. Note I love Peter Parker he my fav spidey ofc but ppl thinking miles morales someone who is almost identically relatable I’d say more in this game close to spidey. I don’t see no chance how neither one of them can’t beat each other.
Miles is more powerful and had an advanatage at that time .....plus kryptonite makes superman a 10 year old victim don't even compare that to venom's weakness ......i always knew miles is powerful than Peter paker because he got the lightning abilities
@@kumarsanu5724 I mean, that doesn't make Miles more powerful than Peter. if it did, Electro would have never lost to Peter at all.
@@fullmetal_3961dude stfu it does miles is stronger
Miles can beat Pete
HOW DID THIS NOT WIN GAME OF THE YEAR
4:11 is this a reference to ui goku vs kefla?
Everyone talking about the dialogues and the combat. But what about that amazing soundtrack. 5:20
Fighting back as a whole was a good soundtrack
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
It’s kinda cool how to me that the only reason miles had such an advantage in this fight, Was cause Peter was also fighting against the symbiote, this entire fight hit different cause it was practically miles fighting to help peter get it off.
This fight was my favorite one story wise, props to Yuri Lowenthal and Nadji Jeter for their amazing performances
2:09 I swear Miles always getting chocked slammed lol
He really is lol and its funny how he has a finisher where he’s the one chokeslamming
It's miles morales vs venomized spider man
Either way, why are people talking about who’s stronger than who anyways? It doesn’t fucking matter. Just enjoy the fight
Thank you someone who understands