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  • čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
  • AirAsia flight 8501, carrying 156 passengers, is cruising high above the Java Sea when the aircraft is suddenly rolling sharply to the left.
    The aircraft has taken on a life of its own, climbing higher and higher while the pilots struggle to regain control. Then, inexplicably, they start to drop altitude. The aircraft is plummeting from the sky, speeding toward the Java sea below. It seems the pilots cannot do anything to save their aircraft.
    This story is about human error, training deficiencies, and miscommunication. This is the story of Indonesia AirAsia flight 8501
    🔔 Don't forget to subscribe via this link: / @aviationaccidents Thanks for watching!
    Final Report - www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/fil...
    DISCLAIMER: Our team created all animations featured in this video. The photos are not owned by us and have been used solely to illustrate and clarify the story. While efforts have been made for accuracy in recreating the scenes, complete precision may not be achievable due to inherent limitations in the recreation process.
    This video discusses the incident involving Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501. Due to simulator limitations, a Thai flag is visible on the aircraft depicted. Nonetheless, the rest of the livery, including the red color scheme and "AirAsia" branding, is accurate. The only discrepancy is the flag near the cockpit.
    #aircrash #aircrashinvestigation #airasia8501
    00:00 Intro
    01:16 Three Days Earlier
    05:46 Background Information
    07:33 Pushback
    07:51 Take Off
    08:05 Cruising Altitude
    08:40 Anti Ice
    09:03 First Signs of Trouble?
    09:41 Rudder Travel Limiter Animation
    10:22 Bad Weather Ahead
    11:32 Contacting Jakarta Air Traffic Control
    11:12 ECAM Message Keeps Returning
    12:50 Captain Flashback
    14:00 RESET FAC 1 + 2
    17:34 Stall Animation
    18:09 DUAL Input
    19:17 Highest Altitude
    19:30 Plummeting From the Sky
    21:20 Aftermath
    22:13 Investigation
    23:31 In Memoriam

Komentáře • 740

  • @Aviationaccidents
    @Aviationaccidents  Před 2 měsíci +64

    This video discusses the incident involving Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501. Due to simulator limitations, a Thai flag is visible on the aircraft depicted. Nonetheless, the rest of the livery, including the red color scheme and "AirAsia" branding, is accurate. The only discrepancy is the flag near the cockpit.

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab Před 2 měsíci +2

      Very well narrated and supplimented by the excellent animations. 👌🏼💙🤍👍🏻
      Long time subscriber already🙂
      Since English is not my native tongue, I usually find it a bit tacky to always understand other accents, but in your case.. the pace of speaking and the clarity of diction is perfect.
      For this reason itself, wish you would also include more details of what the final report was like or what the recommendations were oe the post report changes brought in.
      Although I am just an amateur and do not understand many of these things, overall it adds to the documentary.
      Also, you gave away the suspense upfront😛 by disclosing that the fault was not with the computer but with the rudder limited PCB.
      Often in storytelling it is the suspense that keeps one hooked even more.
      But i still appreciate and respect your creative choices

    • @ianoliver3879
      @ianoliver3879 Před 2 měsíci

      Pictures quite good, but some of the narration is in the present tense. Oh dear!

    • @andyvan5692
      @andyvan5692 Před 23 dny +1

      I prefer the real life Air crash investigations, or the Mayday series, this animated stuff is a bit childish, and doesn't adequately depict the situation, just a Representation only, in 3D not real life.

  • @pilotactor777
    @pilotactor777 Před 2 měsíci +645

    " I have control.!!! Now get your hands off the fu#king stick!!!" ....correct captain response.

    • @mmontgomery383
      @mmontgomery383 Před 2 měsíci +23

      FACTS!!!

    • @ShaunieDale
      @ShaunieDale Před 2 měsíci +19

      He should have long-pressed the red button on his stick! Easy to be correct after the event though.

    • @katieell4084
      @katieell4084 Před 2 měsíci +55

      Exactly. It is so frustrating that so many of the crashes we learn about could have been prevented by such an obviously necessary action. It also blows my mind how so many pilots seem to forget they have a display that shows the plane's orientation. There are three of them, for heaven's sake.

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Both pilots seemed to have completely failed at basic cognition and communication, especially the co-pilot.
      I can get stressful situations and distractions, however pilots have safely landed their planes or at least done their best to save as many lives as possible numerous times in horrific situations.
      This was clearly a case of lacking essential training and perhaps not being psychologically up to the job.
      Planes are perfectly safe and routine *when they work* but pilots should always be ready for the worst.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard Před 2 měsíci

      and maybe dont yell "PULL DOWN" like a fucking moron. If anything say "NOSE DOWN" or something. Terrible pilots.

  • @peterj5751
    @peterj5751 Před 2 měsíci +423

    It’s incredible to me that such an experienced captain who appeared to understand the problem and what was needed to save the plane never uttered the words “my airplane”

    • @bigwaidave4865
      @bigwaidave4865 Před 2 měsíci +42

      Same as Air France Rio de Janeiro. Highly experienced Pilots forgot how to fly an airplane.

    • @noir8976
      @noir8976 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Nice to hear from one of the survivors.

    • @fredspofford
      @fredspofford Před 2 měsíci +31

      "What was the main cause of the crash?"
      "Another First Officer stall"
      "My gosh when's the NTSB gonna finally address that?"

    • @Thorz74
      @Thorz74 Před 2 měsíci +20

      Stress can do this to the brain. It doesn't matter how skillful and experienced a pilot is.
      Live mechanical feedback on what the other stick is doing could really help. Relying on one of the pilots yelling "my airplane" has already cost too many lives

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Před 2 měsíci +15

      Also pressing the override switch on the side stick might’ve helped

  • @AluminumOxide
    @AluminumOxide Před 2 měsíci +212

    As an aerospace engineer studying at university, I really appreciate your coverage of the finest details of flight systems such as the computer and related components, how it works and its contribution to the flight. All of which can be easily understood intuitively.

  • @Deadbeatbeats
    @Deadbeatbeats Před 2 měsíci +317

    The voiceover is giving me nostalgia from the old discovery channel crash investigations, so good

    • @Aviationaccidents
      @Aviationaccidents  Před 2 měsíci +37

      :)

    • @Deadbeatbeats
      @Deadbeatbeats Před 2 měsíci +21

      @@Aviationaccidents I just really like the format you are using, so im commenting in hopes you never change it. I usually lose interest in these type of videos after a while, but not yours. These are very entertaining as well as educational, cant wait for more🔥

    • @FireStriker_
      @FireStriker_ Před 2 měsíci +2

      It really is

    • @android584
      @android584 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Can you tell if it's text to speech or human?

    • @Eyeballpaul84
      @Eyeballpaul84 Před měsícem

      Ai​@@android584

  • @misch2
    @misch2 Před 2 měsíci +619

    That big "Now everyone can fly" sign on the aircraft makes a pretty nice summary of pilot's abilities and confidence level.

    • @ObsidianFrog
      @ObsidianFrog Před 2 měsíci +12

      Hey, we're all the same now, remember comrade!

    • @TheLordreigns91
      @TheLordreigns91 Před 2 měsíci +20

      I don't think it means everyone's a pilot lol😂just means that airline cheap and affordable to all

    • @issaposter
      @issaposter Před 2 měsíci +44

      @@TheLordreigns91the original commenter knew that, it was just a joke pointing out the irony

    • @TheJurnalyst
      @TheJurnalyst Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@issaposter Ikr? 🤭

    • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
      @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Oof... The irony of ironies.

  • @lurpy.
    @lurpy. Před 2 měsíci +164

    most underated aviation channel on the internet

    • @Aviationaccidents
      @Aviationaccidents  Před 2 měsíci +13

      💛✈

    • @bingbong5106
      @bingbong5106 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Just be glad we found it before it takes off (pun intended)

    • @HealyUnit
      @HealyUnit Před 26 dny

      @@bingbong5106 I feel pretty up in the air about your comment.

  • @lukethomas.125
    @lukethomas.125 Před 2 měsíci +233

    This is really well done. Also, it's creepy how the first officer's inputs matches the inputs of Pierre Bonin on Air France 447, an Airbus A330

  • @AutopilotAndChill
    @AutopilotAndChill Před 2 měsíci +116

    I’m typed on the 320 here in the USA and it always blows me away that some pilots just refuse to scan their instruments. If it’s not on the checklist, don’t do it. Absurd the captain attempted an in flight circuit breaker reset that was not directed by the ECAM, QRH or supplemental procedures. Then the fact the FO couldn’t fly his way out of a wet paper bag. Absolutely ridiculous.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Před 2 měsíci +10

      I guess he was getting desperate at that alarm going off. I bet even if he knew the consequences of turning off the FACs, he'd just tell his FO "No, I got a better idea. Prepare for manual flying the autopilot will disconnect for a momment" and do it anyways in an attempt to silence the alarm.

    • @katieell4084
      @katieell4084 Před 2 měsíci +3

      As is all too common for crashes like this, it seems obvious to us that the pilot should have diverted when the problem wouldn't go away. This is why airlines have no-fault diversions and go-arounds, is it not?

    • @charlesc.9012
      @charlesc.9012 Před měsícem +6

      Their airmanship was on par with 20-hour newbies. The Captain's actions really do reflect the things fighter pilots do in mechanical trouble, along with the lack of communication

    • @jsmirnoff77
      @jsmirnoff77 Před 29 dny +2

      First of all, if it's not in QRH and you have no idea what it does, stop pulling circuit breakers. Second of all, they were what... FL310? That's PLENTY of altitude to trade for speed. If only they actually understood sidestick priority. Also... was it -61C as SAT? Why would they turn on anti-ice at that point? That's WAY outside the range.

    • @cpgoef6
      @cpgoef6 Před 17 dny +3

      Unfortunately the Airbus is nothing like other types of Boeings, MD’s, and Lockheed’s that other pilots flew in the past. Many of these pilots don’t understand the Airbus systems and logic and thus do things that might work in an older airplane but not the Airbus. I had to completely re-cage my brain to learn, understand, and speak Airbus logic when learning to fly it.

  • @pablorubio8287
    @pablorubio8287 Před 2 měsíci +182

    Incredible how fast the lessons of flight 447 were forgotten

    • @stephennettles2309
      @stephennettles2309 Před 2 měsíci +10

      I watched that video and this one back to back and they were eerily similar.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard Před 2 měsíci +5

      really stupid design by airbus

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @GooseGumlizzard How dare Airbus assume the pilots won’t be imbeciles.

    • @timothymarchant
      @timothymarchant Před 2 měsíci +2

      Literally the same thing.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard Před 2 měsíci

      @@zephyr8072 what do you work for Airbus or something?

  • @xcifer
    @xcifer Před 2 měsíci +130

    The mere fact that the captain didn't hold the red button and took priority is mind blowing.. There was so much incompetence in this cockpit.

    • @jornalnumero125
      @jornalnumero125 Před 2 měsíci +14

      Under extreme stress and fear of death you simple stop thinking. Both of them were fighting for their lifes. No time to talk or understand the situation, just act. This is why the airplane has callouts for simple things like stall or dual imput: to make clear to the pilots the gravity of the situation. It's hard not to, but i try to not blame the pilots for their last actions. They were just scared.

    • @angrya1po290
      @angrya1po290 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Also how the first officer didn’t see the connection between him pulling the flight stick all the way up and the subsequent stall warning…

    • @tomekk.1889
      @tomekk.1889 Před 2 měsíci +33

      ​@@jornalnumero125If you're scared then you shouldn't be a pilot period. You're a danger to yourself and others. Flying is not for everyone

    • @JJFX-
      @JJFX- Před měsícem +5

      ​@@tomekk.1889Anyone would be scared man. I'm not justifying anything that happened but even the best pilot would be once a plane this size seemingly goes out of control in low visibility conditions. That's not to say many wouldn't perform better under stress but once confidence is lost in the ability to control the machine you're going to get tunnel vision. The video makes it seem like this went on for a lot longer than it did. In reality we're talking about just minutes between trying to get control and being at the bottom of the sea.

    • @MisterHowzat
      @MisterHowzat Před 29 dny +4

      ​@@JJFX- Nope. It's pretty basic to
      1) look at the artificial horizon
      2) have only one pilot take over the controls in a critical situation.
      And as someone else has pointed out, if you can't keep a cool head under such circumstances, then don't be a pilot. And be mindful that the captain used to fly fighter jets. He should have been cool under pressure. Just say to his first officer: "My plane, I'm taking over." And look at the instruments, damnit - the artificial horizon! And the airspeed!! This is so damn basic!!!

  • @karlfriedrich7758
    @karlfriedrich7758 Před 2 měsíci +150

    The number of air crash incidents I've seen where dual-input has caused an accident makes me wonder why Airbus sticks aren't directly linked. I'm not an engineer, but combining inputs and averaging them out seems like a terrible way to do things because both pilots inputting opposites will be thinking their inputs aren't enough and not completely clear on who has control.

    • @ruslanasnaumovas7781
      @ruslanasnaumovas7781 Před 2 měsíci +17

      The sidesticks have priority switches that let a pilot take control, any of the pilots could push the button and have full priority of the aircraft.

    • @Thorz74
      @Thorz74 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@ruslanasnaumovas7781 If I am not mistaken pressing the priority switch doesn't immediately transfer control. I think that specialists said after the AF447 crash that it takes 40 seconds of continuous holding of the button for this to happen. I have no idea why the time is so long if you ask me.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Thorz74 I think it's more like 20seconds, but the idea is that less than that may be an inadvertent input... which would be a bad thing....

    • @karlfriedrich7758
      @karlfriedrich7758 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@ruslanasnaumovas7781thank you, I do know about the priority switch, but it still allows for dual input when not selected and in the heat of the moment that can unfortunately be easily forgotten, along with simple things like "I have control" or agreeing on a course of action together.
      I can't think of a good reason why the sticks shouldn't be directly linked at all times like the yoke on a Boeing.
      Imagine having two controls for your car and the passenger doing the exact opposite to you while you're trying to navigate an icy road. .
      I can

    • @tagtag-connected5263
      @tagtag-connected5263 Před 2 měsíci +22

      The media would let you believe only Boeing aircraft crashes. The dual joystick with independent inputs in airbus is the dumbest design ever. Terrible design

  • @khalid3425
    @khalid3425 Před 2 měsíci +73

    You’re a master at this. 24 mins is like 24 secs. Excellent job my friend. 👏👏👏

    • @Aviationaccidents
      @Aviationaccidents  Před 2 měsíci +7

      Thanks! ❤

    • @JET7C0
      @JET7C0 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah - I just finished a couple, including this one and his vids are all excellent - surprised they don't have more subscribers, but I imagine that will change soon enough.

  • @user-nk9qo3fc2x
    @user-nk9qo3fc2x Před 2 měsíci +43

    From a non specialist point of view: when an unexpected incident occurs, the corrective actions people feel compelled to take without fully understanding the consequences cause an annoying but manageable problem transform into a catastrophic and irrecoverable one. I’ve seen that countless times in IT operations (fortunately with less tragic consequences).

    • @mihaiceclan9849
      @mihaiceclan9849 Před 2 měsíci +2

      True, but why did the pilots did not prioritise to solve the stall, which was the biggest issue at that time. Regardless of the language barrier, it should come naturally to push the stick so you can recover from stall, even though the captain said pull down (a mistake). When you are falling you can feel it especially at that rate of 20000 feet per minute so the stall is obvious and the procedure to recover from stall should start immediately. So sad these things happen. 🙁

    • @fredspofford
      @fredspofford Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@mihaiceclan9849Some people just should have never become pilots.
      As for op I'm guilty of this very thing, as a fellow IT guy. If the thing belongs to me anyway lol. Once I start taking it apart, consider it gone.

    • @stscc01
      @stscc01 Před 2 měsíci

      Sounds familiar to me... in 30 years of IT Service I've seen people doing the weirdest things under stress. Pilots sometimes seem to be no better...

    • @ralfhartmann8601
      @ralfhartmann8601 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mihaiceclan9849 I think, you cannot feel falling. But of course you must have knowledge how to detect and then how to use an Airbus in alternate law (it is then more work, but this is not everyone thing...). Or you should not be allowed to pilot an Airbus.

  • @shnizekreeg7098
    @shnizekreeg7098 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Great job! I love the style, the cinematography, the narration and the straight facts with a touch of drama without being overly dramatic and lengthy. I think another minute at the end of telling us what changes were made or lessons learned within the airline and within aviation after the accident would be some nice icing on this delicious cake. This just might be the best aviation channel on youtube.

  • @Infinite_Ouroboros
    @Infinite_Ouroboros Před 2 měsíci +75

    Why TF did the first officer continue to pull the nose up despite the stall warning? Should be instinctual to push the nose down during a stall to gain enough speed to recover, regardless of what someone's telling you... Not seeing the horizon as a reference shouldn't have been an issue, too, since they still had instrumental flying. The captain should not have been fiddling with resetting systems he's not 100% familiar with in the first place, should have kept doing the normal reset procedure, no matter the annoyance, since it wasn't affecting the actual flight. It's totally human error.

    • @X1erra
      @X1erra Před 2 měsíci +5

      It's quite easy to forget all of these things when you're basically falling from the sky. Imagine like it's your first time skydiving. You probably struggle to even do the most basic of things and cling to your parachute know-how for dear life; nothing else matters. I think this is what happened to him.

    • @Infinite_Ouroboros
      @Infinite_Ouroboros Před 2 měsíci +22

      @@X1erra It's not easy to forget, especially when all pilots train to the point where primary controls are instinctual, especially from stall recoveries. What happened was that the first officer prioritised the captain words over his instincts, to blindly follow his command which he also misunderstood. In high pressure situations, people tend to deligate decisions to those with more authority or rank then carry out whatever order is given without thinking.

    • @murathankayhan2312
      @murathankayhan2312 Před 2 měsíci +21

      @@X1erra nah bro. That's what pilots are trained for. Not an average skydiver geek is prepared for. They dont have right to forget all of it when they're mid air.

    • @user-pl6si3jn9d
      @user-pl6si3jn9d Před 2 měsíci +1

      Because he was Black.

    • @MyProjectsTV
      @MyProjectsTV Před měsícem +10

      @@X1erra I have almost no idea how to fly a plane and I know that when I get the stall warning I bloody pitch the nose down! And they were pilots they should be trained 1000 times better than me at this.

  • @jgiza8888
    @jgiza8888 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Why did they think they could reset the breaker in flight? Heck, I don't even like rebooting my remote work computer at home with zero chance of losing my life.

  • @nite82hawk
    @nite82hawk Před 2 měsíci +30

    One of my new favorite channels on CZcams.

  • @prusaudisisill5644
    @prusaudisisill5644 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This is my new favorite channel. Please keep making more. The quality of these videos is so much better than any other channel in the same genre! The competition isnt even close

  • @sirotem
    @sirotem Před 2 měsíci +14

    The plane crashed due to one mistake of the pilots - the operation of the joystick by both pilots at the same time, due to the lack of a disabled instruction from the captain. He had to declare "I control the aircraft", and then the co-pilot would leave the joystick and the captain would stabilize the aircraft with ease.

  • @jackt883
    @jackt883 Před 2 měsíci +22

    It seems absolutely crazy to me that having both sticks operating at the same time is A) Allowed and B) Combines the input!!

    • @danielkaufmann15
      @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +9

      None of the pilots pushed the button to get the control of the airplane.
      In this case the computer calculated "his own" interpretation of the commands. This button doesn't exist for fun.

    • @LittleMew133
      @LittleMew133 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That's Airbus. Unless one side presses the priority button, the computer averages out. Boeing, the Yorks are linked.

    • @agps4418
      @agps4418 Před 19 dny

      @@LittleMew133 *yokes

  • @howdan1985
    @howdan1985 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Thank you for another absolutely world class air crash investigation video - fascinating, informative and incredibly well produced. The similarities to the AF447 incident are staggering. Huge fan of your channel and an even bigger fan of the narrator's voice.

  • @PokemonParadise2010
    @PokemonParadise2010 Před 2 měsíci +20

    you have a perfect voice for narration! well explained!

  • @georgeross9834
    @georgeross9834 Před 19 dny +7

    “I have control “ by the captain would easily have saved all their lives

  • @jarfan8571
    @jarfan8571 Před 8 dny +3

    After watching this video, it brought back familiar memories of an incident I experienced a month ago with Indonesia AirAsia. I was flying from Bali to Bandung. Just as the plane had pushed back and started its engines, it returned to the gate, and we waited on the plane for about 40 minutes. Several technicians came and went into the cockpit. The pilot only explained that there was a technical issue, and we had to go back to the starting point. After that, the flight went smoothly, and we reached our destination.

    • @jarfan8571
      @jarfan8571 Před 8 dny +2

      It seems like they’ve learned from the past. Quite a few technicians came, and some entered the cockpit. It looked like there was a serious issue with the plane, as this was my first experience of something like this in all my years of flying.

    • @Aviationaccidents
      @Aviationaccidents  Před 8 dny +1

      @@jarfan8571 Good to hear that!

  • @22BIKS
    @22BIKS Před 2 měsíci +38

    One of the best youtube channels for plane crash documentaries!

  • @sensiblewombat
    @sensiblewombat Před 2 měsíci +11

    I've recently discovered your channel and absolutely love your content. Your videos are beautifully made despite covering some pretty harrowing aviation disasters!

  • @sam512
    @sam512 Před 2 měsíci +12

    What even is this channel?!?
    Didn’t exist until recently, yet the production quality of each video is very high. How??? Where did you come from?

    • @Aviationaccidents
      @Aviationaccidents  Před 2 měsíci +6

      Thanks! It's basically because I 'work' 24/7

    • @ReaperX27-01
      @ReaperX27-01 Před měsícem +2

      Likely one of those channels where the actual owners pays multiple freelancers to create videos. Great business model and works on niche videos like this where all you need is to understand air accident reports which is pretty hard, but doable as a job.

  • @PALZYT
    @PALZYT Před 2 měsíci +11

    i know that flying is incredibly safe these days and that pilots are incredibly skilled, who deserve all the cred but when the unthinkable like in this case happens and you as a passenger are sitting in the plane completely powerless and about to crash it's just unimaginable and heartbreaking 😮

  • @nurrizadjatmiko21
    @nurrizadjatmiko21 Před 2 měsíci +38

    As an Indonesian avgeek myself, this was a very sad and unnecessary accident because Indonesia AirAsia is the airline that i've flown the most when i was a kid with no serious accident until 4 days before the New Year 2015. When the investigators told the public that the A320 stalled at high altitude, i immediately remember Air France 447. In the case of Air Asia Flight 8501, the captain decided to make a deadly solution that would resulted it's Airbus Protection System to also be disabled and lead his First Officer to experience spatial disorientation that resulted a stalled at terrifying 19.000 feet per minute until the A320 hits the sea.

    • @focusedfox7167
      @focusedfox7167 Před 2 měsíci

      Average Indonesian incompetence 😓🤡🤮

    • @agps4418
      @agps4418 Před 19 dny +2

      why do you have to tell the story of the very video we're watching?

    • @focusedfox7167
      @focusedfox7167 Před 19 dny

      @@agps4418 attention seeking, typical of most Indonesians

    • @focusedfox7167
      @focusedfox7167 Před 19 dny

      @@nurrizadjatmiko21 attention seeking

    • @focusedfox7167
      @focusedfox7167 Před 19 dny

      @@nurrizadjatmiko21 Excuse me. Who asked? 🤓☝🏿

  • @LeeStewart
    @LeeStewart Před 2 měsíci +10

    This has all of the similar markings and red flags of Air France Flight 447. If this were a Boeing aircraft, based on how they use yolks rather than sidesticks these accidents could’ve been prevented.

    • @user-cn6df6jn4v
      @user-cn6df6jn4v Před 4 dny

      Or a better system to determine who is in control. Dual input is all you hear.

  • @danielkaufmann15
    @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Well done Sir, this was a really good explanation of this tragic accident. 😢

  • @danielfox9461
    @danielfox9461 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I got to be honest, this one pisses me off more than most, the FOs panic freak out and the captains freeze up and not taking over when he knew what to do, makes me feel like the planes are doing too much of the flying and the humans can't handle when things don't work by themselves like they are supposed to but im also smart enough to realize the equipment didn't fail here and if the humans hadn't messed it up in the first place they wouldn't have needed to be able to fix it, is that a catch-22?

  • @TheRevv
    @TheRevv Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just recently found your channel and holy shit I love the way you make the videos. Also love the voice, I grew up with similar voices from all these documentaries I watched with my dad. Nostalgia definitely kicking in. You also keep a very good amount of detail without going overboard, so people with no depth knowledge about aviation like me can follow along very easily. Hopefully more videos will come, I will be here to watch! Thanks for this

  • @caiphaskakumba751
    @caiphaskakumba751 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I subscribed to this channel a day back. I do appreciate. Nice voice, explanation and most of all, I'm getting to know more about flights and cockpits

  • @nigelbond4056
    @nigelbond4056 Před 2 měsíci +31

    A tragic case of panic in the cockpit with confusion and poor CRM. It must have been a horrifying last few moments for those poor passengers.

  • @fr89k
    @fr89k Před 11 dny +2

    If only there was a callout to notify the other pilot that you took over control, idk. Maybe "I have control" or so... Maybe we can additionally put a button somewhere to override the other pilot? Maybe a button on the sidestick? Maybe we can also make it red, just to be sure?

  • @_Giorgio_
    @_Giorgio_ Před 2 měsíci +30

    flying is like nuclear energy. Accidents happen very rarely, but when they do, its pretty dangerous/deadly

    • @danielkaufmann15
      @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +7

      But when an airplane crashes, an area around 1000 miles of the crash site won't be devastated by radiation.

    • @LuizDahoraavida
      @LuizDahoraavida Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@danielkaufmann15and yet less people die on nuclear accidents

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard Před 2 měsíci

      @@LuizDahoraavida fewer*.

  • @TaylorKay619
    @TaylorKay619 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Love this channel. Wish there were more uploads

  • @Skecys
    @Skecys Před 2 měsíci +12

    How can experienced pilots pull up during a stall warning. Boggles my mind every time...

    • @machintrucGaming
      @machintrucGaming Před 2 měsíci

      It's what was instructed for a long time I believe. The pilots were being graded on altitude lost. Mentour pilot explains this on his RIO-PARIS video I remember

    • @comfortablynick1
      @comfortablynick1 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@machintrucGamingStall recovery is the same whether you are in a Cessna 152 or an Airbus A380 … push the nose over and trade altitude for speed. They had plenty of altitude which makes this all the more tragic. All the captain had to say was "my airplane." The FO would have taken his hand off the stick, and everyone would have lived.

    • @charlesc.9012
      @charlesc.9012 Před měsícem +1

      Older pilots were trained in an era obsessed with 0-loss stall recovery, especially in America, where this practice stayed for a long time. It was clearly stupid, but not enough people died back then to change the rule.
      The truth is that it might have worked with smaller prop-driven aircraft, where propwash provides airflow over the wings and control surfaces, but modern aircraft are too heavy and require too much airspeed to make that feasible.

    • @user-pf6qq2pi1q
      @user-pf6qq2pi1q Před měsícem

      they literally didnt know they are stalling, they thought the whole computer is broken...

  • @nathalia65157
    @nathalia65157 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Did they speak to the engineer after? And how could there be miscommunication about pull up or pull down- I would’ve thought it was obvious that the way you pull takes you the opposite direction. Man what a tragedy!

  • @jotnaur
    @jotnaur Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love this channel honestly, thank you for creating quality videos. Seeing your notification makes my night !!

  • @beatsx
    @beatsx Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nice, a new episode! Lekker bezig jullie en ga zo door!

  • @ChristySarpong
    @ChristySarpong Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thanks guys I love the narrators voice..nice choice..we need more videos 📹 😀

  • @MidnightPodcast
    @MidnightPodcast Před měsícem +4

    The 3 Golden Rules: 1. Pick a great airline. 2. Fly over land as much as possible. 3. Break up your trip.

  • @Hendika
    @Hendika Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wow this is some high quality documentary stuff right here. Very well put together!

  • @shane5431
    @shane5431 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Such a great channel, need more videos🙏🏾

  • @xavierdoctor
    @xavierdoctor Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's Air France 447 all over again. Damnit i thought we all learned from that flight. The same damn dual input warning and another first officer pulling back. RIP to all who were lost

  • @josephconnor2310
    @josephconnor2310 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I'm familiar with this accident yet your video on it is top-notch. Great work!

  • @frostdash-aviation
    @frostdash-aviation Před 2 měsíci +5

    I really thought you would have 5M subscribers. Keep going! You will definitely succeed!

  • @bobbymunyavi5357
    @bobbymunyavi5357 Před 2 měsíci +15

    The First Officer was quite the dummy.

    • @0BV1ANGEL1CA
      @0BV1ANGEL1CA Před měsícem

      Eerrrr, no. The Caption should not have reset the breakers mid flight

  • @yzzl91
    @yzzl91 Před 28 dny +1

    Great channel! Keep it up! Subscribed!!😊😊

  • @peterdevreter
    @peterdevreter Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is now together with mentour pilot my favorite aircraft channel! I think you've just started? Your channel should have way more subscribers than 50k! Keep up the good work!

  • @WingWarnings
    @WingWarnings Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great content

  • @blackseifer10
    @blackseifer10 Před dnem

    Thank you for this video. My friend was one of the victim and I never really knew what happened to the plane. Everyone around me only keep saying plane accident but no really thorough explanation. Now I can rest easy knowing what happened.

  • @HongNaw-jx2sv
    @HongNaw-jx2sv Před 2 měsíci +4

    You have such a good technical knowledge of flight.

  • @ValeryVASAN-lz5cx
    @ValeryVASAN-lz5cx Před 29 dny +2

    Great job on this case! More technical point of view 👍

  • @danieldusentrieb5788
    @danieldusentrieb5788 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Why did the first officer keep pulling the nose up even though they were in an active stall? It makes no sense whatsoever. This is piloting 101!

  • @shark11175
    @shark11175 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Best plane channel on CZcams

  • @toiletpapermerchant9310
    @toiletpapermerchant9310 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Goes to show no matter how expensive or fancy your aircraft may be, they still use simple and cheap solder for PCBs which are not durable in the long run.

  • @spruce14
    @spruce14 Před 2 měsíci +2

    what flight sim do u use? its pretty realistic! also keep up the high quality work

  • @halimrahman
    @halimrahman Před 2 dny

    On this day, I was on another flight from KLIA heading for Doha on my way forward to Barcelona. 2014: there was no WiFi onboard and I wasn't on roaming either. I remember how frantically friends and family were trying to reach me and only get to read/hear messages once I landed in Barcelona.
    Prayers for the lost souls.

  • @nanattechi
    @nanattechi Před 2 měsíci +2

    you're so underrated. i hope your channel gets more views !!

  • @marianostarosiliz
    @marianostarosiliz Před 2 měsíci +1

    Incredible! Thank you for portraying disasters in so much detail.
    You could do LAPA flight 3142. Its a story of bad training, fatigue and corruption that ended fatally. Give it a read. The recordings are available in youtube. Cheers from Argentina! 🇦🇷

  • @lindabarrett5631
    @lindabarrett5631 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Im glad I found this channel!

  • @vinci3965
    @vinci3965 Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome video, great

  • @halstonheap6531
    @halstonheap6531 Před 2 měsíci +1

    this is the only incident I’ve seen that seems so intentional it’s mind blowing

  • @user-ur8yk5yr7q
    @user-ur8yk5yr7q Před 2 měsíci +2

    Your animations are so realistic and awesome to watch. Great job 👍

  • @Stuart.Branson.
    @Stuart.Branson. Před 2 měsíci +4

    There has been a few vids I watched where the FO was pulling back and not understanding that this was the cause of the problem, and crashed.

  • @QueenKennaofStormholt
    @QueenKennaofStormholt Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love aviation accident videos and this channel is great, well done.

  • @Marconkols
    @Marconkols Před 2 měsíci +2

    How does this guy have only 52k subs… amazing content, keep up the quality

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke Před měsícem +3

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501

  • @harrishariadi9329
    @harrishariadi9329 Před 2 hodinami +1

    Next time flight schools should consider training the pilots to fly fully manual besides autopilot. Also, flight hours should be divided into manual and autopilot flight hours. Pilot with more manual hours means better trained.

  • @rukuryukami338
    @rukuryukami338 Před měsícem

    great work
    reminds me of pre yt documentaries
    keep it up

  • @kamakaziozzie3038
    @kamakaziozzie3038 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Haven’t we heard a very similar scenario with Air France 447?
    FO continuing to pull up on side stick all the way through a stall until impacting the sea. Why..just why

  • @Aaron-rv7el
    @Aaron-rv7el Před 2 měsíci +3

    Really like the 20mim run times of your videos. 40+ min is too long imo, which seems to be the case for other channels.

  • @bigwaidave4865
    @bigwaidave4865 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Seems like airbus has to get its shit together with these side sticks. Same exact situation happen with Air France on the flight from Rio de Janeiro? Hopefully they have resolved this horrible engineering defect.

    • @GBOAC
      @GBOAC Před 2 měsíci +3

      WIth tens of thousands of planes flying with sidesticks everyday and 2 incidents you may be drawing an exaggerated conclusion here.

    • @pppooppoo7763
      @pppooppoo7763 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@GBOACand linked controls have never been a factor in a crash. Clearly, averaging controls can cause confusion in an already tense situation with a bad crew. Only causing two crashes does not mean it cannot be problematic.

    • @ralfhartmann8601
      @ralfhartmann8601 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The horrible defect were in both cases the pilots, which does not understand how to fly the plane without the (full) help of the computer. It resolves automatically...

  • @documax123
    @documax123 Před měsícem +2

    Awesome narration and graphics.

  • @michaelmarmion648
    @michaelmarmion648 Před 24 dny

    Amazing, great video.

  • @ranapratapsingh3416
    @ranapratapsingh3416 Před měsícem

    Great animation and great story telling.

  • @HalimWander
    @HalimWander Před 2 měsíci +3

    most safest transportation..and yet you couldn't survive the impact whenever a plane crash on land neither on the sea

  • @Armor_of_Torrent
    @Armor_of_Torrent Před 2 měsíci +4

    I don't have any experience with air stuff but even I know and computer reset during a flight might not be the best thing to do

  • @StentorCoeruleus
    @StentorCoeruleus Před 2 měsíci

    Great video

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 Před 2 měsíci +8

    The first officer must have got his licence from collecting vouchers having bought the required number of Big Macs..

    • @mmontgomery383
      @mmontgomery383 Před 2 měsíci

      😅😅😅😅😅😅 collecting vouchers!!! LMAO!!!!

    • @ralfhartmann8601
      @ralfhartmann8601 Před 2 měsíci +4

      so the captain, but one voucher more

    • @piotrmirek25
      @piotrmirek25 Před 2 měsíci +2

      diversity hire

    • @samhhaincat2703
      @samhhaincat2703 Před 2 měsíci

      @@piotrmirek25 Wow, no need to be a racist a**hole. ALL people fuck up, we're humans. Jeez.

  • @Nobilangelo
    @Nobilangelo Před 2 měsíci +2

    Excellent detail.

  • @rc70ys
    @rc70ys Před 2 měsíci +3

    In hindsight he should have simply continued the off then on sequence.
    Amazing in this day and age pilots can simply reset a circuit breaker.
    Unbelievable

  • @hoteny
    @hoteny Před 2 měsíci +8

    okay i wanted to be an exchange student and now im not so sure anymore after finding your channel .-.

    • @rx3dn
      @rx3dn Před 2 měsíci +2

      Why are you unsure now?

    • @l3dukas869
      @l3dukas869 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Accidents are inevitable. Don't let that put you off from your dreams :)

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 Před 2 měsíci

      Choose a different career please

    • @awehellnah
      @awehellnah Před 2 měsíci +2

      airlines learn and develop from accidents like these to make sure they never happen again.

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 Před 2 měsíci

      @@awehellnah Yet still, they happen. That's why one should always choose a safer career when they have a choice.

  • @LumbridgeTeleport
    @LumbridgeTeleport Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well made video! 🎉

  • @tiemji
    @tiemji Před 2 měsíci

    Than ks for the vidéo. It's so sad it ended like this

  • @tfatalt176
    @tfatalt176 Před 2 měsíci

    I just watched another one of these where they also continue to pull up despite being an install. Is that like a default reaction? To try and cure a stall by stalling it more?

  • @greenerell484
    @greenerell484 Před 2 měsíci +2

    this is quite well put together

  • @mdmgreen
    @mdmgreen Před 2 měsíci +2

    AirAsia 8501 was flying to Singapore not Kuala Lumpur. It’s such an embarrassing and yet glaring error.

  • @slats8376
    @slats8376 Před měsícem +1

    This reminds me of Air France 447. First officer had stick back the whole time not known to the captain until the last minute. Amazing to think qualified pilots do not recognise stall characteristics and recovery. But in all fairness in the heat of the moment we will never know.

  • @rocsmithhoe
    @rocsmithhoe Před 13 dny +1

    I love the narration on all these videos

  • @Elementalism
    @Elementalism Před 2 měsíci +1

    Would it kill aurbus to add feedback on the flighsticks as an indicator to the flight crew they are inputting opposite? AF 440 had same issue the pilots were fighting each other while the olane fell out of the sky.

  • @akaluke1
    @akaluke1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It baffles me that they just replaced what they thought was a faulty part and then sent the plan on its way WITHOUT determining the root cause of the failure.

  • @George-xb5ey
    @George-xb5ey Před 2 měsíci

    Could it help if they paint the stick down the middle with for example white for down, orange up and just have a small led light on both ends of the face of the stick to indicate more easily which way the stick is being pushed if it's pushed down the white light activates once the colours on the stick go past a certain reference line next to the sticks maybe.

  • @doggonemess1
    @doggonemess1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You know, I've heard more than one of these stories and just think, if you're in bad weather, the plane is banking and you need to correct - wouldn't any pilot just look at the flight instruments to figure out when they were level? There must be a dozen of these events where a pilot goes into "gut feeling" mode instead of just looking at their gauges and getting the aircraft flying clean. It's destressing to think about.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard Před 2 měsíci

      they totally panicked, probably didn't look at the instruments at all. Incompetent boobs.

  • @pierreshi6102
    @pierreshi6102 Před 22 dny +1

    am I understanding this wrong or should every pilot's first instinct once they hear the word "STALL" issued by the computer is to push the nose DOWN??

  • @danielkaufmann15
    @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +17

    I missed an important point in my first comment. A stall allert or stick shaker activation means always, without any exclusion, to pull the nose down, not up.
    Even the dumpest pilot is knowing this.
    The only excuse would be malfunction of the pitot tube's.

    • @Deadbeatbeats
      @Deadbeatbeats Před 2 měsíci +3

      Sadly, panic can erase all kinds of knowledge and experience

    • @danielkaufmann15
      @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Deadbeatbeats yes. You are right. In this case can only more flight simulator training help, until you can manage this situation while you asleep.
      Both pilots failed hard, the 1st. Officer pulled up, (deadly decision) the Pilot pulled down, but never pushed the "priority" button.
      The flight stick in an Airbus is designed like in each other plane. Push forward means nose down, backwards means nose up.
      Stall means nose down. I'm still puzzling why this happened.
      (Didn't mean you in this case, we Germans say often "you" and meaning it only as an example)

    • @Deadbeatbeats
      @Deadbeatbeats Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@danielkaufmann15 the only pilot experience I have is from Arma 2 and even I know that pulling back wont make you recover from a stall. Flight times dont really count for anything If all your hours are smooth sailing

    • @danielkaufmann15
      @danielkaufmann15 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Deadbeatbeats
      Therefore I said, training, training and more training. You have to be familiar with this situations. With a flight simulator, I mean a simulator like the big airlines have. Not a software running on a PC. 😊

    • @MatyasArby
      @MatyasArby Před 2 měsíci +2

      push