Reaction To Dutch Systems That Might Just Be The Best
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Reaction To Dutch systems that might just be the best
This is my reaction to Dutch systems that might just be the best
In this video I react to Dutch systems that make Netherlands one of the best countries in the world including paternity leave, Health insurance, Kraamzorg, Agriculture and farming, Paris agreement and Recycling.
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Kraamzorg, as a freshly minted parent in the Netherlands, was an amazing support. It’s as if a whole community is standing by making sure your little one, the most precious thing, is getting everything it needed. I wasn’t aware this service existed untill I became a parent myself. I felt heard and seen, without having to ask for it.
The after birth care is having a person in your house for 8 hours a day, taking care of everything during a week or 10 days. Cooking, laundry, taking care of baby, cleaning the house, what ever needed.
That was for me also the most important thing i missed in her explanation about the Kraamzorg, because that's so much more worth and helpful, especially for a first time mother, than just only checking up on her and the baby! 👌🏼👍🏻✌🏼
Yes 👍🏼 excellent
I Find myself very lucky to be born and living in the Netherlands. Of course it is not perfect for everyone all times but the system is finetuned all along so that everyone can and should benefit. I feel we have a great combination of capitalism and socialism over here.
The population is very critical and involved in how things are running. An often heard joke is that the Netherlands consist of almost 18 million prime ministers. Partly true and that mutual commitment brings a great feeling of involvement. It is a real society.
As a greenhousebuilder who build these all around the world we are now take over the US and Japan with a new kind of greenhouse so i say goodbye to my homecountry over 4 weeks for a couple of years.
2nd biggest agricultural exporter in the world... Sure, but that includes everything we import first. That's a bit of information a lot of people seem to fail to mention... We are still an impressive agricultural powerhouse though. With the use of modern technology we can grow crops with minimum resources while still getting impressive yields. I'm sure there are some videos out there about how we farm in The Netherlands and how Wageningen University is at the forefront of developing new technologies.
Casey made very nice videos, like this one, and some years ago turned silent. Nice to "see" her again via this route.
Great change in paternity leave to 6 weeks! Maternity leave is great as well with a total of 16 weeks off and you are obligated to stop working at least (I think) 2 weeks before the baby is due. Most women stop working 4 weeks in advance and enjoy 12 weeks after the baby is born.
France has a great kraamzorg system too so and families are helped out after the baby is born with everything that needs to be done around the house. Here in The Netherlands, we had the best help we could wish for. She looked after my wife and our baby but treated us with great fruit shakes and if it was needed, she would even cook for us (which is not normal by the way). We loved her and showed it to her! She got a big present when she left!
We pay (me&wife&3y old) €390 (thats basic ensurence plus an addon ensurence were more is covered) excluding the 'own risk' fee of €75 a month
The Dutch have a good reason to be concerned about climate change. If the sea level rises enough we will drown. 😉
There are already a whole lot of money spend on this crazy thing.And it will not be any more now,because the government that is is now wil not spend a gulden anymore on co called Climate Change,because there is no climate change,thats just a fairy tale off the left and it has costed us already a enormous amount of money and that wil do NOTHING!
Oh please you know we'll go Waterworld or make a new Atlantis...😊
The kraamzorg nurse will also make coffee etc for visitors and kicks them out when the mom and baby need their rest.😊
I as a father found it also helpful, because she also taught me, how to take care of our daughter, bathing her, showering with her, changing diaper, learning how to get to our daughter drink out of a bottle when my wife would start working again. She made me get fruit and made the best fruit salads. Lastly telling us both to go upstairs and sleep, because in the rush after the birth you forget to take care of yourself, at least in our case.
A former colleage of mine wanted to emigrate to a warmer country (for example the southern part of the US) for his health (because of stomach problems that seem to disappear in a warmer climate) and in the year they wanted to go they got a son born with down syndrome. They cancelled their plans, because there’s no better place in the whole wide world than the Netherlands (educationwise, healthcare and overall chances in their son’s life). I myself have health problems and I probably wouldn’t be alive if I lived in another country than the Netherlands. So yes, the healthcare is very good.
Funnily I watch you both sepereratly
everyone needs a mandatory insurance, wich will set you back 140 ish a month and an own risk of 385 euro. thats the base insurance, on top of that you can add premium packages for dental etc.
If you low income teh goverment pays like up to 100 euro per month max going down as your income goes up. own risk is teh amoutn you pay for healtcare cost other then you house docter. If you do not pay you will be forced to pay if you have not payed for like 6 months you will be forced to pay the goveerment then you pay more with a fine on top. only if you have payed the open amount you can apply for a regular insurance again
Our healthcare is very cheap, even though the quality is amazing. Not everybody will agree with this, but if they would look at other countries, most of them would agree. I have lived in NYC for 6 months, the healthcare is very good, but the prices you pay are insane!
I think our government tries to make healthcare as accessible as possible for everybody. The longer health issues get ignored, the bigger the problem will become.
You said: "Everything is free". Only the sunlight and the air are (still) free.
The north sea level hasn’t increased for many decades.
I'm a Dutch grandfather and a socialist. All that I'm afraid of is that all bad habits that are American will finally come to the Netherlands.
I might be the wrong person to reply to this... but as an American who hopes to retire to the Netherlands... I plan on bringing exactly zero American 'habits' to NL, and hope to instead insert as many good Dutch habits into myself as possible. The Dutch, besides all kinds of particular issues that the internet loves to apply to them CARE ABOUT making their society safe and secure for all. There's so much behavior in the US that gets excused away as 'freedom' from wild driving to reckless gun ownership to not safeguarding consumers or employees from abuse... it's just crazy when you add it all up. My goal, is to become a good Dutch neighbor. I hope I can accomplish that.
she says the people all pay a share and the government also pays a share, but where does she think our government gets its money from?
the actions of the government towards climate has direct influence to everyone in living in the netherlands.
due to limiting carbon emissions there are set ceilings put in place that has influenced the max speed in highways from 130 to 100kmh, but it also limits how much farmers may expell and that has influence on the business they run.
that was the main reason for the farmes demonstrations.
also it limits how much can be done were every project has to calculate the emissions and therefor many building projects like housing are prosponed or canceled what has direct influence on the housing shortage and therefor the rising house prices.
so houses get even more expencive so less people can affort to buy a house.
I am born en living in the Netherlands. I think we pay to much for out health insurance, since years ago it was privitized. Years ago you only payed between 40 a 40 euro's a month. And if you did not go to a doctor or specialist the whole year you got money back at the end of the year. Nowadays you pay 160 euro's a month, plus you have an own risk of 380 euro's. This means if you have to go to a specialist you have to pay firts 380 euro's by yourself. Why am I than paying 160 euro's a month?
To ad, if you have to go to different specialists you have to wait minimum a week between appointments, I live close to the Belgium border. We are alowed to go to a hospital in Belgium. Differance there is that they do all the appouintments with the different specialists in one day
precies !!! idioot ! 😫 Exactly !
40 euro's a month. Now you are talking about decades ago. Back than everything was way cheaper (salaries were also way lower). No one will go broke if they have a cancer treatment. Only disadvantage according to me is that dental care is not included in the basic health insursnce.
In the US, I have a neighbor who had to cover a $20+K hospital bill for his mother when she needed a multiple day (not week) hospital stay. I owed $6K for staying an afternoon after getting heat stroke on an overly optimistic fietstocht. I have 'excellent' insurance from my job in financial services. Older people who are retired, can have their life's savings taken away over medical bills. It's madness. Apologies for gaslighting your complaint, just adding some perspective.
€ 40 per month is ages ago. Have you never heard of vergrijzing? More and more people uses healthcare so that is why is more expensive nowadays. Without eigen risico of € 380 the monthly fee would be much higher.
I saw your video and I'm really proud of my country. Yes, I am from the Netherlands! Our system is not socialist, it's social. Socialist means that the means of production are owned by the collective and people are only working for this collective and all are treated kind of equal. Not 100% correct but pretty close. That would never happen here.
With politics going sideways in the US, I keep trying to open their eyes what a better country they can have when they make different and better decicions, and I show them what life in The Netherlands looks like .. here it comes ...
For Americans: With a more social (not Socialist - something completely different - find the definition) government in a capitalist country, which went way too far actually (it's all about the money), you can have a much better life. Not just a few, but all of you. When is enough money finally enough and will your government do more for the people? I think Democrats are brave enough.
About The Netherlands for Americans to see: Our government takes care of us with a social safety net and much more. That's why we are the 6th happiest country in the world and the number 1 country for kids to grow up in. And we gladly pay the taxes for it. WE ARE ONE! Socially speaking :)
For me, it's really unimaginable that, when you as Americans live in the richest country in the world, you say that something that would make people's lives easier and better, is TOO EXPENSIVE. HOW?! It's about how you spend your money! We pay a lot of taxes in The Netherlands (although a family in the US and The Netherlands have about the same net income) but our government's income is spent largely directly or indirectly on our citizens (Indirectly, for example, by creating a great investment climate for companies to create or retain jobs). On making people have a good life, without too many troubles and with many rights. Those hundreds of billions spent on your military is never looked at. It's normal. But there is also money from other sources that can be spent more wisely. With that budget, you can pay for family tax credit (kids are the future) or universal child care so people can keep on working (or don't take it and enjoy your kids growing up). Your money can help you get great education throughout the country which is much cheaper (about 15,000 Euro here to get your Masters Degree at University), a cheaper but better healthcare system with hardly any out of pocket costs (here between 3600 and 7000 Euro for 2 adults with 2 kids below the age of 18 per year, depending on your additional insurance on top of basic (basic is mandatory) - you'll never go bankrupt on going to a doctor, having a baby, or being in hospital to get surgery), paid sick leave, a minimum of 21 days of paid holiday without your employer interfering (I have 28 days now, working for an American company in The Netherlands), a better work-life balance (we 'work to live' instead of 'live to work' and we're proud of it - we are number 1 in the world with 93 points out of a 100 here; information from the World Economic Forum), higher efficiency and productivity while working less hours, so more time for your family, and much more.
I really wish you had that too. You deserve it ... All of you!
Dutch farming is indeed shocking. When the weight of farmed animals (cattle, pigs, chickens, goats) is divided by the average weight of a Dutch person, the total equivalent population of the Netherlands is about 78 million. Not 17,671,125. That's the real shocker.
And why is that a shocker? It's about Weight.
That's a totally uninteresting measurement.
What is the amount of pollution? How can we fix that?
That's the problem. We are a really innovative bunch of people. Especially the agriculture. There are so many great innovations but who's gonna pay?
Farmers can't get loans from Banks, the gouvernement is too slow or not interested.
The latter i can partially understand. Why do we as a small country have to make so much effort while others don't care.
It's complicaties and I don't have an answer but for instance. Huge chicken farms produce a lot of fine dust but compared with more animal friendly ways the amount per chicken is way less.
Pfff a lot of work to be done. I hope the gouvernement is more willing to sponsor new ideas.
Oh I'm not a farmer, I'm a doctor but with interests in the subject.
The Dutch agricultural sector may be performing very well. But the balance is gone. The Netherlands has the worst quality of surface water in Europe and the highest percentage of pesticides in the soil.
That is not okay and that is currently a major issue in the Netherlands. The agricultural sector appears to be over-stimulated, which is to the detriment of nature and the environment.
Het is wel vreemd dat ons water zo slecht schijnt te zijn als het net over de grens in België het oké is met dezelfde waarden. Nederland heeft zichzelf (de regering tenminste) veel te hoge eisen gesteld.
Wat de pesticiden betreft is ook een groot deel te danken aan de regerings maatregels. Er mag steeds minder mest gebruikt worden dus worden boeren gedwongen kunstmest te gebruiken. Die veroorzaken juist meer problemen.
Nederland is veel te klein om het voortouw te nemen in het Parijs akkoord.
Het resultaat dat we krijgen als de doelen bereikt kunnen worden is wereldwijd zelfs geen druppel op een hete plaat.
Ondertussen worden boeren kapot gemaakt en de burgers op zoveel kosten gejaagd zodat er geen geld meer is voir boodschappen...
Klimaat is belangrijk maar niet ten koste van alles alleen om het beste jongetje van de klas te zijn in Europa.
@@user-pm1ji1vd2s Terug naar school jij.
Geen enkele boer in Nederland word "gedwongen" om kunstmest te gebruiken, maar aan het ongeremd uitstorten van immense hoeveelheden drijfmest te danken aan onze buitengewoon grote veestapel zijn volkomen terecht de nodige grenzen gesteld.
@@tomvanaarle2622typische dat je alleen reageerd op het commentaar op de kunstmest. Zoals ik zei dat het grondwater met dezelfde waarden in België en Duitsland oké bevonden worden.
Sommige Nederlanders denken dat ons kleine landje de klimaat problemen kunnen oplossen terwijl onze veel grotere buren met dezelfde waarden er niets eraan doen.
Klimaat is belangrijk maar we kunnen onzelf niet de zwaarste eisen opleggen terwijl onze veel grotere buurlanden, die op natuurlijke wijze hun water in ons land lozen, dezelfde inzet niet hebben.
En dan hebben we het nog niet eens over wereldwijd. Wij zijn veel te klein om ook maar enige impact te hebben op het klimaat.
Dus misschien moet jezelf je kennis van topografie opfrissen om te beseffen hoe belangrijk Nederland kan zijn.
1. Also in The Netherlands the healthcare system has gone downhill since they opened the door to private insurers. Now there are co-payments, limits and restrictions. Decades ago it was really "free" and covered everything. 2. Having children is a choice. For us it wasn't a point. 3. Since 2016 the Dutch railways run on 100% renewable energy. We plan and execute.
That’s not entirely true. It was free up to a certain salary. If you earned more than the Ziekenfondsgrens (a sort of MedicAid or NHS salary limit), you had to take commercial health insurance, which was very expensive. And children weren’t free insured like in the Ziekenfonds. My father earned just above this limit and had to take commercial health insurance and had to pay for his four children also, and for my mother of course. He was left with lots and lots less than someone under the limit with the same amount of children. It was an unfair system because of that. And the Ziekenfonds (literally translated as Sick Fund) wasn’t really free, it was payed through taxes, not out of pocket. The new system is much fairer. But I agree that the new system gives the insurance companies an enormous amount of power and they use it. They closed (almost) all regional and small hospitals and merged many city hospitals to enormous health factories and are now starting to close emergency rooms to concentrate them, because it’s cheaper and it guarantees higher quality. Amsterdam, our capital has only three hospital companies with only five hospital buildings. Driving times of ambulances has got longer and it has caused some casualties, but it is a economic calculated risk. For visitors the travel times are also longer, so if you ever get accidentally or planned into hospital, the amount of visitors is probably lower than it used to be. And visitors have to pay for parking at the hospital too. But it also has good sides, like lower healthcare costs than neighboring countries, lower health insurance premiums. So this system has a dampening effect on rising healthcare costs, short waiting times for treatments and operations, low medication costs. But it also has downsides.
Food is so important.
I’m proud we feed the world.
Now that’s I’m proud of.
Wat i see lately in articles is that the healthcare is getting worse and worse in the UK People waiting for a day in the emergency room.
Lake of doctors and nurses etc. the NHS is crumbling.
11:30 The Netherlands has great farming techniques yes. We invented ways to harvest wheat twice a year instead of one time for example. But we also are the biggest producer of GMO's even tho GMO's are not sold in The Netherlands as they are forbidden. It's all for export.
I SOOOO love your accent. I have Scottish friends from Aberdeen. They dont sound like you at all......
Love her Aussie accent as well. Cant do it. They do an ooh or someting when saying an R.
16:00 trust me....i cant even remember the last time we had a white snowy christmas in the Netherlands. the summers are CLEARLY getting hotter and the winters...well they arent doing pretty good either. When i was a kid we could go ice skating on the lake near our village every year for months at a time, the last time i went ice skating with my old man on a natural lake was back in 1997.
Moral of the story.: yeah climate change is VERY real 🙂
a lot of babys are born at home in the Netherlads
Watching videos like this one makes me want to make videos myself, just to show and explain how some things work in the Netherlands. It's just that we have the privacy law which would complicate filming certain things but oh how it itches. Seeing you ask questions and wanting to answer them in a video of my own...
Hello reason why in the UK they are not copying what we do is because of the ‘Not invented here’ mentality in the UK. Love the brits though forever one of our liberators ❤
16:00. i dont understand why you asking that question...
the whole world feels the affect of climate change...!!!!!
i can't even remember when we had the last WHITE x-mass in The Netherlands...
we used to have had very strong winters aswel, now its just rainy and dirty weather..
On the recycling, larger cities have underground trash containers and not plastic containers that have to be put at the side of the road every Thursday evening, for emptying on Friday morning, like is the case in most of the country.
I tried to get underground containers installed in my area, the answer to that request was that such underground containers, required a different type of truck to empty them. Further, they reasoned, such collection points quickly turn into garbage everywhere.
I find these reasons fetched or 'well then change it' for that truck type.
In the larger cities in the country that do have those underground containers, do they have to coop with 'garbage everywhere' ?
I don't know, but I somehow doubt it.
I live in a town and we use to have them here and ther 10 years ago, but about 3 years ago they are now everywhere, the old trucks are gone. It might be that your town will do it as well, try forcing them to start, these things are so amazing, no stinking garbage bags in my home waiting for a single day in the week.
@@Volpij Tell me some more, are the area's around them, littered with trash, as my county house told me was their fear ?
@@Jila_Tana not a lot tbh but you will always have those who throw trash next to it, the same people who throw their garbage out on a day the old garbage trucks didn't collect
Health insurance in the Netherlands is privatised. So there's a bunch of different competing companies that each have to make individual contracts with all the hospitals and clinics every year. So if you need some more specialised care, you need to pay good attention that your insurance company actually covers it. And just because they had a contract with your clinic this year, doesn't mean they will next year. It also just keeps getting more expensive.
Also, the waiting lists are very long. Especially for psychological healthcare.
Our system may be pretty good compared to other parts of the world, but it has definitely fallen off
Yep and it is moving from good to okay to not okay.
Most insurers cover all hospitals, only the price fighters don’t
We have water too merkt haha
Yeah, well, we're probably not the best, but I'd say we will do. Maybe I'm a bit too Dutch to put it like that..
The healthcare in Netherlands is very expensive. I pay ervery month 215 euro's. U also have a Own Risk from about 360 euro's
De zorgverzekering in Nederland is spotgoedkoop.
Why pay € 215? Insurances of € 130-140 are very good.
Now the world population is at the point of going down, "karaamzorg" is a benefit to all any countries having a decreasing birth rate is in dire need of "kraamzorg". (except the USA they are antisocial ... for the Republicans reading this , antisocial is an insult to everyone outside the south if the USA.)
Back to f1 u defo need to watch something on the 2021 f1 season! considered the most tense and dramatic ever verstappen vs hamilton
Give us Dutch the space of the USA and we can feed 4 planets, ;-)
It's not as nice as a foreigner would think on first sight. The healthcare system is overly complex and only a shadow of the old 'ziekenfonds'. The (indeed crazy big) agriculture industry is the most polluting in the country and bites the Paris agreement, so something's got to move and it is not the Paris agreement. Recycling and 'statiegeld' are no where near to where they could be. So yeah, lots to be done.
De bekende azijn zeiker!
Hij is zeker een azijn zeikerd, helemaal mee eens@@51bikerboy
@@51bikerboy inderdaad, fijn dat je jezelf herkent in je eigen typering. zelfkennis is een groot goed!
How is it complex? You go to your doctor (for free) and he/she will help you further. It might become more complicated, but that’s rare, right?
Kraamzorg is basically a midwife system.
No it's not. That's a verloskundige. Completely different.
@@lidewijvos Only if you focus on a literal translation of a sigle word. Try figuring out what a person says, before taking things out of context.
@@lidewijvos It seems that some people get lost in translation. I said "midwife system" not midwife. Translation deals with terms not singular words. Though it is true I could have added the word care "midwife care system" but it would confuse people like you even more. Literal translation is the only thing most folk can do, as they barely understand the technicalities of the profession. So try again, instead iof using a bad dictionary to read first of all what is said, which terms are used and ask someone who is capable of translating to do this for you. The terminology stands, as there is no other proper wording in modern English, nor as far as my knowledge goes in Middle or Old English.
Also midwife is NOT verloskondige but vroedvrouw if you want to be exact !!
For those that might read this, Janus is an annoying contradictory dictionary definition troll.
If they claim they aren't, they might start to write with more context, instead of falling over other people.
verloskundige = midwife, a HIGHLY trained person that guides the birth either at home or at a hospital if that's the choice of the mum in the case of a low risk birth.
DO NOT confuse this role with a doula or any of the weird untrained people who might abuse this title in the US. High risk births are always done in hospital under a OB/GYN. I believe the Netherlands has the highest % of homebirths in the western world.
vroedvrouw = the old name for verloskundige, no longer in use since... ~30 years?
kraamzorg = the system of visiting maternal care nurses.
When you birthed your baby you get a set amount of care. People visit your home, they take care of you, your baby, the home & if applicable other children.
Their first priority is the health of mum & baby. To make sure no nasty infections set in after birth, to notice jaundice, etc. etc. The second is to help you learn to care for your baby. This is massive life change for new parents; how to bathe a baby, how to change a nappy etc. Then to protect your time, so any visitors don't tire you completely. And to do practical stuff: run a hoover, cook a family meal etc.
After you put a whole new being on this planet, you are entitled to a bit of pampering.
150euro basic healthcare
Nothing is what it seems
Yeah, let's not pretend our government did the environment thing voluntary . Environmental activists had to sue the government to live up to the Paris agreement. So they really didn't have a choice after the Court ruled in favour of the activists.
Important is to know that because of the immigration everything is changed about health care... The Dutch only go to the doctor only when they think they could die .. the original Dutch don't like to waste time on our house doctors... Most parents know from their parents some medical knowledge... Immigrants have a different approach to medical care... For nothing they go to our doctors... The house doctors as we call them get a big work pressure and they had to change their policy and this was not for the better... And still expats think we do a good job... Can you imagine when they visit our countries 30 years ago??...
Mert
Whats up with all those “dutch is better” videos in my feed lately?! As a dutchman, it makes me wanna throw up😅 very uncomfortable
Nothing is free here... Idfk who keeps telling this lie
That's why we have so many fortune seekers
the problem with a great system although defenitly not perfect, is that you get allot of unwanted immigration.. like her
There are worse looking English women
Unwanted by who? A few loudmouths. Dutch economy needs immigrants. We always did.
@@hardyvonwinterstein5445 no we dont. statistically, the people we import these days just cost more money than they add to the economy. we dont have housing for them anyway. and the more people we import, the harder it will be to hit climate targets. there is literally no good reason to continue having this system in the 21st century, except for very specific highly educated experts like the electrical engineers that work for ASML. those people have phds.
@@hardyvonwinterstein5445 Nonsense. What part of "Dutch economy" don't you understand?
The system is rigged in every country.
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She doesnt really know what shes talking about. The health insurance contribution only makes up a small part of the total cost of the healthcare system. The majority is paid by income taxes from people who arent sick. Same with natal care, child care subsidies, etc.
The result of this is that for people who work and arent a drain on the system, its much more lucrative to emigrate and go somewhere else with a lower tax burden, leaving all the moochers behind. Which is why the tax base is rapidly collapsing. Theres no reason to stay here if you are a net contributor.
You know when you living outside our country, then you will miss things that you always taken for granted, even on a holiday.
Please do leave. May i suggest the USA? It's the perfect choice for non-empatic, selfish a**holes like you.
Appelflap is another libertarian billionaire muppet who thinks taxation is theft. Taxation done right is solidarity, it’s building a society and security for the people. I’m very sure Appleflap will be a crying baby if he doesn’t get any health care, education or social security from the state.
Those poeple think that they are untouchable and never get sick. I wonder how they think when they need those services themselves
@@leonverdonschot3727 i would pay for my own healthcare with all the money I saved not paying taxes for other people
This is not good what you do!Not good for the people in the Netherlands. At this moment it could wel be that there are more foreigners in the Netherlands than people off the Netherlands. It could be in any time soon,that point is very near that there are more foreigners in the Netherlands than Dutch people!So please dont go here because the new government are getting things done to get this landslide off people who want to stay here far less than at this point in time!Foreigners will not get a house or room so easily as now.Everything will be focused on the Dutch self to get a house.The old government couldnt care who or why so many foreigners could get a house here to stay. That will be different from nou on!
Only 14% of the population is foreigner. Dus je loopt een beetje te bazelen, Joop.
@@EdwinMartin Well,that number didnt come from me,comes from people who now better..And it depends who you are counting as a foreigner..The people from the old colonies are now also counted as foreigners because they speak there own language now instead off Dutch.