OLD STEAM POWERED MACHINE SHOP 28
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- Video number 28 in the series depicts what running a small job machine shop under steam power in 1925 might have been like. This episode involves starting up a 1880s vintage stationary "mill" engine that will be used to run the shop. Bearing housings for the line shaft hangars that will run a Racine power hack saw in the shop are also being made on the 1925 American Machine Tool 18" lathe. All comments, questions, stories, and discussion concerning flat belt drives, steam power, old shop jjjjjmachinery and machine work are always welcome here. Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy it.....Dave
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Dave I was watching the segment where you were showing the line shaft hangers that you had casted. On the one part that hangs down and you said that you just wrapped it with tape to make it thicker so you had material to machine off and to cut the threads. How did you set that up to turn it and thread the shaft portion that you adjust up and down. I've been trying to figure out how you set that up to turn?
Hi Scott: That was done before I became interested in CZcams. I chucked it by the stub end, center drilled it in the "Y" and then turned and threaded it between centers. IF I do another one of those, I'll show it....Dave
David Richards Dave, sometime after I wrote that I remember you talking in another episode about turning between live centers, something that's not done much anymore you said, and thought, "I bet that's how he did it" " he chucked up the round end and center drilled with a starting drill to give a center to hold against, marked out the center on the shaft end and drilled it then turned it between centers!! It's not much but I was proud of myself as a non machinest for figuring it out, your a good and natural teacher. I hadn't touched a lathe since high school and yet the other day out at my brothers house who recently bought an old South Bend from the thirties that's been converted from belt to electric belt I felt comforts tinkering with it and showing him a couple things, especially how to change the gears for threading. That was awesome because he turned to me and asked rather amazed how do you know this stuff? Which I responded " I had machine shop my senior year!" The look on my brothers face was priceless! But it's really neat to understand how the machine was originally set up to work and you can see how they converted it to an electric motor. How the motor drives a V belt to a big sprocket which then drives a flat leather belt which was the original belt. It's just neat to recognize how all these machines worked. Thanks Dave, I've learned and relearned so much watching your videos that once I actually get my shop purged of all the junk that's accumulated I'm going to go shopping for a lathe and mill.
BTW: Where could someone ever find a drill press like your large one, the one with the square table. I'd love to have a press liked that one with power feed that you can reduce to such a slow speed that you can tap with it. An you know it's a commercial grade machine I can pass on, because it's sure as hell going to out last you and I! I know finding one is probably a long shot. Anyway thanks for everything and have a great turkey day, Scott
@@scottpecora371 They turn up. I managed to snag one complete and great shape off gov deals, with a motor for $160. Had to totally restore it, but it was well worth it. Keep an eye peeled so you can get them before dealers like BlackSmithTools buys it and jacks the price up 6x.
David Richards Hi Dave I wish you would invest in a taller step ladder, you make me nervous on that short ladder.😀
This video made me really miss the 2 old geezers in my neighborhood, Ed and JIm. Willing to take a little time to show interest in what I was doing, and pass on a little encouragement and humor. Both had been around, Ed was at the Kaiser shipyards in WWII, and Jim Had been a certified pipe welder for about 40 years. I miss my old friends, but they were examples of a life well lived. Thanks, Dave!
Good to hear the old girl run... She'll outlast us all just the way she is...
My father grew up in the 1930s in the UK and was a huge fan of steam, and was an avid trainspotter in his youth. He would have really loved your channel. We lost him 10 years ago, and he was never very "internet savvy".
There is something about these old machines that is pure magic.
I just love steam engines.
And the rest of your workshop is spectacular.
People like you keep history alive wich is a very good thing.
I thank you for that.
:))
Just worked out what makes this type of workshop unique, it is in 3D, stuff going on up down and sideways, not just at floor level where we focus on. Makes it more alive.
Thanks guys for all you do. Glad you were able to meet up with your viewers.
Nice work David, the new engine will take care of the extension when you build it..... Now imagine doing the same thing with a 3,000ihp engine, absolutely no difference apart from scale and I know how it feels when you get the first run out of an old engine after you have rescued it. More of the same please. (Your videos are so well made as well...... A pleasure to watch.)
Well Dave, all I can say is WOW and double WOW! Liked your golfer buddy too! Yall did a super job!
Great video!! Lots of work to get the old steam engine running. Great job. Thanks
love that drilling put the bigger drill in for clearance for the smaller drill to go deeper, simple why haven't I been doing that.
This is really magnificent. So much torque, even under minimum steam. Greetings from Missouri.
Wow, almost silent what a beautiful machine.
all that hard work paid off.It's a masterpiece
Love every bit of it. Probably the most difficult thing to remember about this old shop equipment is that they are work horses, not race horses. Patience has a big roll in getting good results out of them. A bit difficult to remember after seeing more modern equipment at work. It usually takes burning the tip off of a high speed tool bit to remind me to slow down.
My Sea Bee Uncle always used the term about the work horses and show horses. He was a firm believer of using your head and not your back and your feet had to make up for what your head forgot. Sure miss the good ones.
I think that term is one I got from my Father. He served (at least at the beginning) in an Engineer Battalion in the Marines. That's probably where he heard it used. I know for certain that "thinking with your feet" came from the railroad.
He would also say "the man pushes, the mule pulls." Personally I think the mule had an easier time with his work.
Could very well be. He said someone could holler or point to something and he'd go run it. He also said I was just like he was. Talking about blowing me totally out! But so far, so good. And I'm with you about the mule.
I was going to add I've been around some Gravely walk behinds and if you try and push them, they will stomp a hole in the ground and fill it with you. They work at their own pace and you might better get used to it. I had to, and quickly.
I would say CONRGATULATIONS and I know you've put a lot of hard work in getting that engine running. GREAT JOB!
Machinery in motion, feel the machine ,the love of it, man an machine
Congrats on the almost completion of the new to you engine. Closer every day. Thanks for the video.
'Im sorry you were interrupted but we must be kind to the ederly.You have a kind heart and that's more important than anything else in our brief lives.Thank you for being kind Dave
That was my next door neighbor, Paul. He stops by quite often to check things out. His wife grew up around a machine shop many years ago and stops in too....Dave
All i can say is STELLAR Dave. The lily is a one of a kind and steam is where it's at. koodoos buddy.
Nice to see the new engine brought back to life . And ditto on the motorcycle racing wouldn't trade it for anything.
Love the power down feed on the drill press.
David,
Your work is impeccable, and your skill is undeniable. It's truly inspiring to watch you work.
Thanks for making these videos for our enjoyment.
Mr. Richards you are doing some great work reviving these once beloved machines. Please keep up the good work and looking forward to more videos!
My grandfather worked as a machinist for the railroad in the roundhouse in Springfield Illinois for about 45 years. He died when I was about 10 so I didn't get to know him. Now in my late 70's I have found an interest in steam engines and a desire to learn machining, I was surprised at the elation I felt when you started the old steam engine. Great. Thank you.
Hello Paul, Glad you are aboard our channel.....Dave
Excellent job on the rebuild. Thanks for the videos.
Hi David Nice sound from "new" old engine, nice that someone checks up on you from time to time, keep up the good work, Getter done
poetry in motion,Ilove it thankyou
I kick back and watch the vid and the rhythmic sound of the belt driving the machine just puts me to sleep!
Fantastic. Really pleased for you Dave. That new/old engine runs a treat. It was our steam rally last weekend. Took the Nuffield. Only a brief video this time of the 100plus steam engines as I've got most of them before.
Looks like a great show....Dave
Resurrection Day!. New life for a grand ole machine.
Good job Dave, I learn something every time. You are a great teacher weather you know it or not!
Congratulations on getting the old girl running, Dave. It sure looks and sounds sweet. Paul
Great stuff. So cool to see that engine run!!
Jim
great job ! I would love to see this shop in person.
What a beautiful piece of machinery.
One word: awesome.
I was glad to see a little video on the line shaft
Love the "new" engine!
Beautiful shop love steam power and its history great videos keep up great work thanks
Congratulations on the engine !
Congrats on your luck in finding an engine that wasn't worn out. She's a sweet runner.
Yeah, how about that...Dave
Man I would die for a quill that free that is magic.. Great video and keep them coming..
When I put on that heavier wheel from a Lodge-Shipley it just did that....Dave
Excellent work guys!
Looks beautiful
Really like the whole video, especially the engine and description on the line shaft.
Great work!
another great video. Your choice of music to lead in is just perfect!
Omg waoo beautiful rebuilt like new life given with lots of new parts. And sould vey smooth less congregation mr david
The sound of the big engine is really nice. Quiet! I am thinking of making a endless loop of your engine to go to sleep by--aahhh! ZZZZZZ!
Thanks Dave It is raining here in Texas so your update is greatly appreciated today.
Looks like you really might get hit, take care of yourself.....Dave
With pleasure I watch your video about the workshop on the steam drive, though I do not understand a word. You do a good job of teaching patience, taking care of the creation of your ancestors.
With a bow, Edward from the USSR
КБ Морозов use google translate
Amazing work! Don't know what else to say, Greg.
I like your serie. I have been looking at many episodes. It's nice to se that more peoples has interest for steammachines.
Thanks for the comment Terje, I'm glad to have you along......Dave
Good little tip on going to the larger drill to get a bit of clearance for the smaller one
Yeah, long holes can be a pain, thanks for watching Ted.....Dave
Watching that steam engine start up again after all those years works better than Viagra!
Bob Korves
I'm gonna have to watch that part again.
Excellent first steam up ! Always enjoy your videos
This was the high point of my week. After non-stop hurricane and floods this was a nice change of pace. Thanks for your videos Dave.
Absolutely amazing, keep up the good work!!!
New/old engine sounds awesome! Liked watching the big 18" lathe, chips falling, smoke rolling and the sound of the engine working out in the background! Really enjoyed vid! Thanks for taking us alone Dave. Life on Machinist retired
Thanks for the video and for bringing back memories from the late 40's!!! We kids would horrify the adults because we would not stay far enough away from the belts as they fascinated us! We kids had nary a clue as to how much work went into keeping those machines going but now I know! You all are hard working, smart, clever people! Again, thanks for the video and best of luck!
Great video as always. It's nice to see old machines come back to life again.
Love watching your videos Dave, your style is so relaxing and enjoyable to watch. Keep up the great work.
Great day for you run nice and slow too well done
I really enjoyed viewing this video. Thanks!
Enjoyed very much.
Man that engine just looks like it loves to run. Great work on bringing it back to life! Really love the videos.
Nice work good to see it running !
congrats! sounds wonderful! beautiful rhythm
Always a pleasure to watch you shop videas. Thank you from the underside of our world for sharing this with us again.
Another one right out of the park Dave! That engine runs sweet. I really enjoyed the video where you re-worked the crank shaft. Looking forward to the next installment.
HOW SWEET David How sweet !!!!!!!!
Great job Dave the engine sounds great.
Very cool heavy drilling , Engine is running great ! Enjoyed Dave..
Another interesting video. Thanks Dave. That new engine is a beast! Lovely to see one restored for use not just to look pretty. Keep it up. Thanks again.
Awesome! Very nice to see some of the process of troubleshooting a live engine.
Hi Dave thanks for letting us visit you again and thanks for all the great steam work too, maybe you will have the oldest junior shop man to come. shows that you are a good guy all around
have a good day and a better tomorrow
That is the coolest thing I ever saw for steam power!!! think what you can do with that endless [ so cool ]
really cool stuff.
looks like a torque monster. nice to see it up and running. sounds like you are having great summer. sure the fall will lots of events for you to enjoy. thanks for sharing
Nice job on the engine.
Great to see the engine running, it's have a wonderful sound, I enjoyed seeing the clock in your last video, enjoyed the video very much 👍😊
Needs a few things tightened and adjusted but It will come around very nice I think.....Dave
Congratulations on getting the new engine running ...I enjoyed watching all the moving parts ,,,when it was running slow It really showed up well on camera
You have every right to be proud.
I really enjoy watching your videos, I have a love for the older machines. I am currently restoring a 1916 Pratt and Whittney and have a old 1870s New Haven sitting in the shop waiting to be put back in some type service
Great Mike, the New Haven probably has a stepped pulley flat belt drive on the feed. I had one similar years ago, but fooled it away.....Dave
I on occasions use a lathe dog on drills that spin--that works pretty good...Good content Dave, keep them rolling..
It's alive! It's aa.live!!
You've done it! It's aliiive!
Nice work Dave. She sounds happy.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
It seems like I have been waiting forever for #28, thank you, thank you, thank you!
It always amazes me how quiet steam power is!
Been away for awhile. Glad to get back and watch vids. Watching that engine run is one othe most relaxing things I know of. I would like to get a set of prints for a model of an engine of that type. Thank you.
WOW thats a monster steam engine
Congratulations on running the big steam engine. I was surprised how smooth and quiet it runs. Of course it had no load on it yet. Why are these steam engines so fascinating to watch? Is it because of their slow motion and relative simplicity so that you can see and understand them when they run?
I have one topic that I would like to hear more about and I am sure you know quite a bit about it: What were the different steel types they were using in the steam era? On which part of a steam engine would they use which type? Were they standardized? Or did every steel mill have their own flavors? What would be corresponding modern steel types? Maybe others are also interested in this and you might mention it sometime in a video. It probably applies to most of your videos.
rol eic I know what you're saying about what seems to be a universal fascination with steam engines. I think there are several small reasons that come together. First you but rarely ever see this form of power being used in our world today. Second, steam is very quiet there is no sound of combustion unlike combustible fuel engines. Third steam engines can run at almost a stand still, because their not dependent upon internal combustion. Fourth, although steam doesn't generate a Lot of horsepower, they generate tremendous amounts of torque. If I remember correctly on one episode of Daves he was calculating the horse power and torque of the O&S 5x5 engine that was used to power his shop. If I remember correctly it generated something like 6hp but 126ft lbs of torque. To put that in perspective a 6hp Honda gas motor will generate somewhere around probably 8-12ft lbs of torque @ 3000rpm (you can get the exact specs on Honda's web sight I'm sure). This is what made steam the perfect power source to power the emerging industrial world of the 19th and early 20th century. Because the main building material was cast iron weight was always tremendous making internal combustion difficult without a Lot of gear reduction. Steam was perfect. Fuel was varied and abundant, combined with fire and water. This is what made steam the perfect choice for trains for over a century until diesel and electrical generation were perfected on a mobile level. But steam is like a living creature, hissing, groaning, smoking and mechanical sounds, making it almost magical!
Thanks for showing the line shaft transmission at 17:27 I always wondered how that actually worked..I guess there are a lot of ways of doing it...But that seemed simple with the free spinning pulley, How it just lets the belt glide over to the drive pulley . I always look forward to another installment!
Great job on the new engine Dave. Nice to see it run after its long vacation. Was waiting to see your neighbour get a slick of oil down his nice shirt. :-) regards from the UK
david cool video.
Wunderfull.
Lovely engine ..
And again you made my day.
Greetings from the Netherlands
Henk Van Der Wal `
Wat up Peter pjj
Wish I had known that you were at Rough and Tumble. I spent the day there on Thursday. Just posted some video of the Line Shaft Machine Shop to my You Tube Channel.
The young apprentice did a fine job on the oil pump linkage. Maybe you should start letting him sleep indoors.
Nice !!!!
I was browsing thru one of my beside readers "Lathe work for machine shop practice"1941 edition and it's got a picture of a big lathe dog around a drill shank in the tailstock with the offset "L"resting on a tool bit in the cross slide,to prevent the drill from spinning when she grabs.Simple ,but neat
It works like that, if necessary...Dave
Im requesting an interview with your neighbor. Someone that old always has great stories to be told!!
He does have....Dave