HENRY CAVILL Was Back As SUPERMAN! What Went Wrong?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Henry Cavill was back as Superman but that all changed when 2 people came into power. A year later, fans are still angry and upset but what actually happened? A year ago yesterday, Henry Cavill announced to the world that he was back as Superman and official Warner Brothers and DC social media pages welcomed him back to the DCEU.
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We want Henry Cavil as Superman!❤️
Ditto
YES !!!!!!!!!
#BRINGBACKHENRYCAVILL
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
And why black Adam didn't make money and flop
So as we all.
The DCEU was on track with Snyder's SuperCut!
Whose we?
I will NOT be watching WB's Superman without Henry Cavill
Pathetic 🤡
Grow up. He’s never coming back and it’s time to move on. You aren’t special. Christopher Reeve Superman fans felt the same about Routh’s Superman.
Cavill was my favorite Superman. So sad will never see another film with him in it.
You Hopefully Still Will
@@user-sp2ty9mq5f😂😂😂
Never happening unless they do some multiverse angle where DCU characters get stuck in the Snyderverse.
I was so happy to see Henry cavill back as Superman because that was amazing, but man oh man the second we lost him i was so disappointed in my opinion.
Me too 😭
@@adrianguillen4719 indeed
I wish they would have followed the original plan to make all these movies... 😢
@@redhulkultra155 i wish so too
It's not just your opinion. :)
That man deserved better!
I was in my car durring my lunch break driving back from a pizza place when I saw this Cavill news and video. Now every time I drive in that road I remember this moment and it is sad for me. Thank you James Gunn.
Blue Beetle is the first DCEU movie that I didn't watch in theatres and still haven't seen to this day. I wanted to keep supporting DC because I grew up a DC fan but I couldn't bring myself to keep financial supporting them.
I'll probably watch Aquaman but I can't promise anything more after that.
Happy for those who will still watch and maybe one day I'll be back.
Until then I'll probably just stick to the comics and animation.
If you wanna know my thoughts on _Blue Beetle,_ the best movie I can compare it to would be the first _Ant-Man._
In the sense of it's pretty much EVERY superhero film ever made, feeling like a hodgepodge of other superhero properties such as _Iron Man, Ant-Man, Ben 10,_ and _Venom_ (if you see the movie, you'll know how it references all of those), but what makes it remotely work is the charm and performances of the actors, as they're giving it their all and really breathe life into what is a pretty predictable script.
Take all that as you will.
Don't bother with Blue Beetle, it's a gigant pile of horse poo.
Seeing the video of Henry announcing he’s not Superman anymore still hurts just as bad as it did a year ago.
I can’t forgive WB for how much we’ve been robbed.
Hurts?? You nerds need to go outside more for real
As a fan I stand for something I and others believe in. You clearly don't, which is why no one's in your corner. Smh.@@pfftwhut7638
@@pfftwhut7638 being emotionally invested with a story isnt that bad, maybe you should try having some feelings and opinions of your own sometime soon
@@mohawho8251 you're fkin kidding right? SMFH LOL. i actually live life with real feelings, not just your nerd addictions to fake characters. also, i've never heard anybody saying you nerds need to be less invested in your "entertainment" like it's a fkin identity. so yeah you need to go outside more too
Way to break my heart DC and Warner Bros. No Superman could ever be comparable to this here Mr Cavill
I think you've captured all our feelings, the ups and downs in this one video and articulated it all wonderfully. I'm still gutted about Henry.
It all makes me laugh. The Snyder Bros deserved this outcome 😆😆
@@Knightfall182 how so?
@@Knightfall182Wow, this the kind of thing that makes you laugh ? How cool it should be to chill with a guy like you... I guess trolling is a life goal !
So am I
I agree. I have nothing to comment about because this video said everything I felt about the situation. I mean I love Henry Cavill. He was born to play and literally looks like Superman in real life. BUT for me, I am first a SUPERMAN FAN no matter who plays the character. I support the best and the worse of Superman. I'm one of those Superman fans where the character can do no wrong, just those who wrote the story or those who act his role in whatever media you put him in. So I am open to Superman Legacy because in my mind it won't be Superman who messed up that movie (because Superman can do no wrong in my mind) it will be James Gunn and David Corenswet playing Superman.
Hollywood doesn't like Zack Snyder for some reason and they love James Gunn for no reason at all. So Henry Cavill was seen as Zack Snyder's man and that's why he was treated that way.
Gunn leans towards the woke narrative with his humor. Snyder is much more serious,realistic, action packed, not pushing ideologies and identity politics and is darker which I like.
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@@johncap6495 Yep, Snyder doesn't wanna go woke, he's old school, the males are tough, masculine and 'toxic', the females are tough, feminine and hot af. Old school. Just the way we like it.
Probably because Snyder doesn’t diddle kids like Gunn
@@johncap6495Gunn's humor isn't woke. It's just DUMB immature jokes
The best part of Black Atom was literally when Henery came in at the end. Only part that gave me goosebumps. Tom Welling is probably the only other person I can see as Superman.
Sellout .... Henry Cavill or superman is dead, no one out there would even come close.
Henry Cavill IS SUPERMAN! A movie with him as Superman against Black Adam is what we all hope for!
And I was thinking they should’ve done a Dr. Strange & Dr. Fate movie! Some of these duo’s should’ve been planned already!!
Henry Cavill was waiting in the wings for a long time to return to the role, DC gave him a middle finger, pretty much giving the fans the same thing! All those years we could have had at least two Superman movies, but DC has no vision or guts!
I'm so sorry for The Rock. He had his heart in the right place and wanted to bring the snyderverse back. It's a shame his movie didn't have the response studios expected, even though it was a better reponse than any other subsequently DC movie. I guess it was already too late for a reaction, DCEU was already a terminal sick patient.
Even if it was just brief, The Rock deserves credit for getting Cavill back. Not Hamada or Emmerich or Kevin Tsujihara or even Jason Kilar or Ann Sarnoff. The Rock made that happen and, like you said, his heart was in the right place.
He literally tore the last strand. Dwayne Johnson is obviously toxic and purely in it for money and fame. Not because he cares about these characters....
It's a year later and I still feel sick to my stomach thinking about it, like one of the worst sadnesses i've felt in a while. I know that sounds kind of lame and all but I was SO SOOO overjoyed when I saw Henry Cavill back and I rewatched the whole snyderverse and it may have its' haters but I was a hardcore fan all the way from the start! I still can't believe how bad the timing was and I don't even hate Gunn I just don't wanna stick around and see anymore DC movies 🤥
I agree not watching any more too
All James Gunn had to do was bring back Zack Snyder and let him finish his trilogy and then seek out other directors and writers that would have continued the DCEU and Gunn would have been the CEO of the year and then after some time he could have introduced his new DCU. This is Simple and would have made the studios a boatload of money. But now he has the weight of the world trying to create a Superman movie from scratch with a new actor and everything is riding on this movie’s success. Such a bad move. It’s very frustrating knowing we had a universe in place and it never got the development it deserved.
I KNOW, RIGHT !?
WELL SAID 👏👍👏👍👏👍👏👍 ! Because of James Gunn's incredibly infuriating & dumb decision to fire Henry Cavill and prevent us from seeing him appear as SUPERMAN again in future DCU films in addition to denying us any sequels to ZSJL... I, for one, refuse to support anything with James Gunn's name attached to it !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
Gunn is thinking more about his own opportunity to do his own stuff and not about what fans want. As co-CEO of DC studios he should've considered the fan backlash even if his personal preferences were against Snyderverse.
The majority of fans liked his films. The critics...not so much. But that's an elite made up of 500 people max, and they're often wrong. As they were in the case of Carpenter's The Thing, or Ridley Scott's Bladerunner. But when a fandom has a positive majority opinion about someone's films (75/ 63/ 94% for the Snyderverse trilogy respectively...a majority) and back it up with healthy profiting ticket/ vod/ disc and merchandise sales where allowed, you should probably avoid pissing those fans off. Otherwise your audience shrinks catastrophically, as it did from Shazam til Flash (and no doubt soon for Aquaman 2) and the only way to make profit is to make low budget films like Shazam that hardly anyone wants to see. But no, rather than staying the course, or making a slight course correction after the highly lucrative BvS, WB decided to butcher Justice League and then take Superman, Batman, the Flash (until this year) and Aquaman (from 2018 until this year) away from DC fans...and ruin Wonder Woman in her sequel. Six years of low tier characters and disconnected action comedies no one asked for. Now Gunn's dumb reboot announcement has made sure the last few redundant DCEU films bring the total amount of flops (including his own disastrous TSS) to...eight? But sure, Snyder ruined the brand, and Gunn is apparently going to be its saviour. 😂
@Comicbookfanboy31 majority = most
All those are majority numbers. That's not up for debate. A minority of people disliked them ...the smaller number (25/ 37/ 6%) in case you can't grasp the concept.
Gunn's egotistical way of announcing the redundancy of the last crop of films, and his firing of Cavill is responsible for the abysmal box office of all these films. He should've kept quiet until the last film finished its run. Why would anyone, especially a DC fan, be a Gunn apologist? Madness.
@Comicbookfanboy31 for someone who doesn't understand the meanings of 'most' and 'majority' you sure are persistent....
They should've given Cavill a good send off. Instead Gunn couldn't wait to announce himself as the saviour of DC with a reboot. By doing that they doomed every DCEU film after, and the DCU will suffer because of his impatience and ego for years to come. So many dumb decisions made by WBD....
Absolutely 💯 agreed 👍
A lot of people, myself included, still remember all the controversy with Gunn and those very appropriate tweets. I only stayed with him to see the end of the Guardians story, but won't be continuing especially after the disgraceful manned he treated Henry Cavill.
It’s hard to watch the video of him announcing he’s back. Cause it serves as a grim reminder that he’s not coming back at all.
That video should be released at the beginning of Gunns Legacy trailer.
I despise WBD
Frustration doesn't even come close with a situation like this. Look, I really enjoy James Gunn's movies, i even own most of them, including some of the harder to find ones that were originally released only as a web-series, but this time round, I legitimately have no clue what Gunn's thinking by doing what he's doing. It's like he's your opponent in Naughts and Crosses, constantly just avoiding the clear spaces where he could win, but instead would rather troll you so you can't see a proper game being played or even get finished in a satisfying way. The fact that he's doing everything in his power to ignore the fans is just madness to me.
Exactly right here. Cavill was in it for ten seconds and we all found out after the fact
Its the fever, the rage, the sense of powerlessness that turns good men cruel. You're on point about the context. They didn’t have that China bump, the movie was still pretty good though. Not as good as it could've been but still, Black Adam was good.
Nah, it was a vanity project, through and through.
The Rock had over ten years to make this story as good as it could be and the only thing he worked on was his physique. If he had put have that effort into the story itself, there would have been a much more entertaining movie.
@@julianseguin2748Nah. The movie was just fine. As usual, you people are just hating...😒
Thank you very much for this video. This was professionally done and very truthful. I am one of those who loved Cavils Superman and of course Snyders movies. This was a joke and absolutely one of the most unprofessional maneuvers a Hollywood studio has ever made. It’s really amazing that a studio who is looking to change their image immediately makes a move that seems to be exactly in line with what they’ve done over the past 20 years. A time in which they have embarrassed themselves in this genera. I sincerely hope things work out but I will never forgive them for what they did to Cavil.
Thank you and I agree with you
The tale of WB(D) blunders will be told for many years to come. The biggest fiasco in cinematic history.
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Yes very well stated I totally agree
I do think the Henry Cavill situation is tragic for fans. I'd love for Snyder to continue is work but at least they could have done the Superman vs Black Adam, etc with other directors. I'm trying to be objective about the DCU but the interest is just not there. I loved Gunn's GOTG but the rest of his work is just okay to me. Hopefully when Superman Legacy trailer comes out it will change my mind. I don't really have any interest in the other projects released for the DCU. I'm just waiting for Reeves The Batman 2 now.
Still sucks what they did to that man, i hope he will get the chance to come back even if its for a crisis film but the damage has been done and it is what it is
Nah DC is down the gutter man. Let it rest for a few decades and then see if your grand kids are forgiving enough of the brand name
Thank you for the update. I am 63 years old and growing up for me superman was George Reeves. Then came along Christopher reeves who did a great job with it. And now my kids get to watch Henry Cavill who totally won me over as Superman. I would like to see the bright colored suit again, I was never a fan of the darker colors. But for DC to do what they did to Henry Cavill was just plain wrong. Superman from this point forward is always going to be Henry Cavill! Gosh he looks great and he did such a wonderful job with the character. He is a fine actor!
Bring back Henry Cavill Superman!!!!!
i also heard that man of steel 2 not only would of had Sasha Calles super girl in it but her and henrys superman would of gone up against Brainiac
WB meddled way too much #restorethesnyderverse
EXACTLY ! They are meddling morons who are destroying the "DC Cinematic Universe" !
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Cavill deserved better, not interested in what Gunn is selling. It’s too late to legitimately compete with Marvel.
Facts, I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮 #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
They didn't need to do Cavill the way they did. Disappointing.
@@popeyeandthejeep7459 or Snyder, or Nolan, or Burton, or Nic Cage, or Ayer, the list goes on. WBD killed DC.
I really enjoyed Henry Cavill's portrayal of Superman. I didn't think much of Black Adam as a movie , but I was delighted and ecstatic when Cavill was back. Then, news that Snyder would be allowed to make Justice League 2 with all the original cast .. I was absolutley over the moon. I'm also a big Batfleck fan. Then, the shit show happened and Cavill was gone, followed by all our hopes of JL2 and Snyderverse finishing what he started..
The Flash movie was awful, the best part of it was actually Batfleck doing his bike chase at the start of the movie.. even the great Michael Keaton couldn't save that shit show..
and George Clooney at the end? wtf ? I cringed. Cavill - you're a gem, you deserved so much better. I also loved you in the Witcher. I look forward to your next project.. respect.
Getting rid of Henry Cavill's Superman and not letting him continue in the role as part of DC Elseworlds is the worst first impression James Gunn could have made.
EXACTLY !!!!
#FIREJAMESGUNN
👏🏼 facts.
First impressions count, Gunn failed. I wont spend a penny on Gunns DCU. 🚮
@Comicbookfanboy31 Gunn isnt rebooting anything, Waller, Peacemaker, Harcourt and the child murdering rodent continuing is proof its a Pick&chooseboot. DOA 🚮
@Comicbookfanboy31 its a pick&chooseboot stop spinning lies like Gunn. Gunn isnt capable of being original and starting fresh. HACK.
I mean Henry's Superman was mediocre thanks to Zack Snyder's awful vision and terrible writers he should've played a Superman like Tyler Hoechlin's it would've been way better it's not James Gunn's fault it's Warner Brothers fault James Gunn is just trying to fix a messy coherent universe that Warner Bros and Zack Snyder made
Black Adam was the last DC film I saw in theaters and the last time I was excited for what was to come. I have zero interest anymore.
Same. I wont be supporting Gunns DCU going forward. I despise WBD.
SuperCavill 🦸 Always
SnyderVerse
#DCEU
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
#FIREJAMESGUNN
I feel bad for Henry. He clearly loves the character and always wanted to play a hopeful and joyful version of the character. But instead was given to a director who hated everything the character stood for and made Henry play a cynical, depressed, and jaded version of Superman (ironically Henry acts more like Superman in real life than when he played Superman). Then got the chance to redeem himself was taken away. But I'm still excited for Corenswet
Zack Snyder didn't write the script for Man of Steel dummy. Have an original opinion of your own and stop regurgitating the bs from James Gunn fanboys.
When we luv something so much, people will get jealous and try to sabatoge it in any area, don't matter what it is, people hate on others happiness, what other fandom loved the directors vision so much they raised half a million for charity and got his original cut of the movie released, how is Gunn going to compare to that, so just hate back with a smile! 🙂
Facts WBD and Gunn Guzzlers are haters. I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮
We raised over $1 million for AFSP 😉
watching this video brought back very bad memories
I'm still not over this decision yet.
@@AhamedMohammed507 cool for you 💥
@@AhamedMohammed507But who asked you tho?
Just like Cavill, we fans got screwed over.
Never forget, I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮 #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
I really hope Universal realizes the demand for continuing the Snyderverse.
Nolan is at Universal, once Aquaman 2 and Creature Commandos flops, Zaslav will Sell 2024.
@Comicbookfanboy31 🤣 When Gunns DCU flops starting with Creature Commandos who will you blame 🤣. The ignorance from Gunn Guzzlers to think its a minority fanbase 🤣🤣. Gunns TSS was DC's biggest flop in 10yrs prior to the flash and his DCU will be the same.
@Comicbookfanboy31 the 'toxic' fandom, you mean DC fans who dont like WBD. Gunn Guzzlers are ignorant.
@Comicbookfanboy31 No, DC fans are boycotting a toxic studio, thats the reality. No amount of trolling or spinning will change that.
Cuz of behind the scenes drama. Gunn canned him after he took over.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse to at least just give us Justice League 2 and 3 on Max or some other streaming service.
Gunn constantly being dishonest to fans is going to lose him any goodwill he earned over the years.
@@AhamedMohammed507Rock was part of the behind the scenes drama 👍
Funny, James Gunn did nothing to Henry. Gunn just didn't hire Henry.
@@juniorfandy8796 funny, you missed the part of the video where that turned out to be a lie 😜
Lol No, Henry had no contract before James Gunn. James Gunn could have hired him or not and he chose the later. Henry just didn't fall along with James Gunn plan so he didn't hire him, its as simple as that. Moreover, if Henry had a contract and Gunn terminated it then that would have been different.
@@juniorfandy8796I see you missed the part of the video that shows how that dumb excuse is basically worthless
I love this video. A great comprehensive look in detail of what had transpired. I think it's important that folks are reminded of these details.
Folks today have short memories and forget a lot of key elements, and just why this studio sucks and keeps sucking. My words.
But teasing Henry Cavill's return and not actually doing it was a HUGE missed opportunity. The support and majority of the fandom was there. This was the ultimate time for DC to truly shine.
It would have been a great turning point for DC as this new DC slate was truly exciting, and no one was super excited about Marvel's next phase. Many heads would likely have turned and looked upon DC as the new leader of comic book movies.
Again, it was a huge missed opportunity. My opinion. An opinion, I think, many share with me. -OG
Just to remind you too marvel currently sucks
@@Nyota..e Agreed. -OG
Big facts. Marvel’s new phase is not delivering and it would have been their time to shine. I agree.
I'm not a comic or anime fan, but I loved Henry as Superman...with respect to Christopher Reaves, Henry was believable, and way more classic, and classy. Also so many of my peers agree. They would get their cake and eat it too. By getting a not so hardcore comic audience as well as the usual comic crowd. So to sum it up....I for one am pissed 😤
Just do an Elsworlds movie that is Zack Snyder's Justice League 2 & 3. And allow Ben Affleck's Batman/Deathstroke movie. Then after those movies are done, we can all move forward together as a fandom. They need to bring back Henry Cavill.
Exactly I have no idea why this was never considered. If audiences are willing to accept that Reeves!Batman is in a different world than Affleck!Batman, and he's in another separate world as Bale!Batman then they can accept that Cavill!Superman operates in a different world than Gunn!Superman.
For god's sake, DC has INFINITE EARTHS in their universe for this very reason so that different kinds of stories can run concurrently. There were several multiverse movies and shows coming out around this time so it's not like audiences were unfamiliar with the idea.
"Flash" gave them a perfect opportunity to set up that the worlds were split and that would have provided a gateway for a cinematic "Crisis on Infinite Earths" adaptation which brought in both DCEU and DCU characters, uniting the fanbase finally.
But instead....they just trashed it along with the excitement of many fans.
Exactly just do JL 2, 3 and allow Ben Affleck's Batman movie and Man of Steel 2.
Gunn is scared of Snyder, he wouldn't allow a Snyderverse Elseworlds because it would be superior in ever way to his crappy DCU.
Boycott and WBD will Sell
This is one of your best videos I've ever seen! Thank you for not having revisionist history on the events that took place to lead us to this point. It's very understandable why a lot of fans feel jaded and won't be supporting future DC projects. This was very much passed the straw breaking the camel's back
Wow, thank you!
@@OurMovieNewsyou're welcome! I've followed your content for quite a while and your IG page! 🙏🏻
Thanks!
Never forget what #JamesGunn took from us.
#HenryCavillismySuperman
#HenryCavillSuperman
#ManofSteel2
I HATE JAMES GUNN !!!! ESPECIALLY after he fired Henry Cavill as SUPERMAN among other incredibly idiotic & dumb decisions that has destroyed the "DC Cinematic Universe" ! I, for one, have NOT forgotten everything that Gunn took from us !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
Never!!
@@AhamedMohammed507 When Gunns DCU turns to ashes, who will you blame?
Never forget how he took the trash out.
I am really hoping that James Gunn's movie flops and they get rid of him the same way he got rid of Henry Cavill. It was wrong what he did and the way he did it. He didn't think of the fans at all.
Lmao, James Gunn didn't get rid of Henry.
SAME !!!! James Gunn's dumb decisions will bite him in his @$$ ! Getting rid of Henry Cavill as SUPERMAN was the BIGGEST MISTAKE of his entire Hollywood career ! I, for one, refuse to forgive that clueless clown 🤡 ! I will NOT support anything with James Gunn's name attached to it !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
WBD lost the trust of DC fans a long time ago. The flops will continue into Gunns DCU 🚮.
Thank you my friend.
You are so welcome!
This one decision killed all interest I had in the DCU.
Same here.
@@AhamedMohammed507 Don't care what you think.
@@AhamedMohammed507 Not really.
SAME ! There is NO DCEU nor DCU without Henry Cavill's SUPERMAN among other things !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
@@pedropulido2352 Yep. I know. 😄
Reading between the lines here I think what happened was: Gunn was promised something when he was hired, then the studio (or someone) went and did something without consulting Gunn. Realizing that Gunn could play the "breach of contract" card (and he would not be wrong), had to make things right before it got out of hand. Plain and simple. I think there's a communication problem at WB.
WBD dont deserve DC. It's time to sell. Until then #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
If you go back to 2019, gunn said he were offered to do superman or the suicide squad and he choose TSS. Then in 2022, he were offered to be DC co-CEO right before Black adam released. Seem suspicious.... Its like someone Who works inside WB tried to destroy DC by stabbing anybody Who try to create DC universe
This happened to snyder when geoff John took over, then Matt reeves stole the batman from geoff John then Walter hamada took the job by replacing geoff john and now they fired deluca and Dwayne planning by making James gunn leader. Its all politics inside wb.
I have so much to say in regards to this. People make fun of us and expect us to move on but fail to see why we're pissed off in the first place. From an underwhelming 2017 JL movie, to being dragged around for a few years with b-list characters, until finally, the real Justice League movie in 2021. All the stuff in between is part of what pissed us off, but also with how these so-called professional business men treated ZSJL by not marketing it, denouncing any continuation the weekend of it's release, hiding the numbers, and lastly, uploading THEIR 2017 version trailer when advertising the bluray/4k release of the movie...yeah that'll piss fans off. Do you know what else will piss fans off? Having Cavill announcing his return and later, announce a hard reboot and recast. I blame Gunn. I also blame Zaslav. I am not going to condemn them like most people will. I am just one of the people that will not watch any DC movies going forward. I am tired.
Facts, WBD has lost the trust of DC fans, to think we will just happily accept the slop Gunn is serving is disrespectful. That studio doesn't deserve DC.
I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮 #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
Great video, and good discussion on the context, around Black Adam. WB, and a lot of people fail at understanding context when discussing their opinions on the DCEU, as a whole. The whole 'Snyderverse DCEU films didn't do well, so course correction was needed' argument is proof of that. The box office numbers are out there, anyone can look them up, and use maths to compare. The Snyderverse DCEU films did a lot better then the MCU's initial films at the box office. Over $800 million with four films than what the MCU received with five films. It's also something crazy like the first three DCEU films (Snyderverse) made more than the last eight non-Snyderverse DCEU films.
Them course correcting from the Snyderverse just did more damage i think
@@jammygamer8961 Most definitely, especially in regards to box office numbers. Not one of the non-Snyderverse DCEU films has been able to crack $400 million at the box office. Even Zack Snyder's lowest earning DCEU film, MOS ($668 million), made like $200 million more than Superman Returns. It took six films for each franchise to get that billion dollar payday on a film, but on average the Snyderverse DCEU films made a lot more, at the box office. All while the MCU was at its peak, and while WB butchered three of the films
Thanks for this accurate synopsis of events. Too many people think that Gunn and Hamadaverse 2.0 are great, despite no profits nor viewship level to compare with the original DCEU.
It's very fascinating to me that there are some who still claim that Snyder's DCEU "failed" yet no film after his departure other than Aquaman has made anything close to the box office numbers while he was there.
If people really weren't connecting with Snyder's direction wouldn't the box office numbers skyrocket once he was gone?
And if his three movies are "failures" what do they call all the flops that have come out recently?
@@Syryuits called hypocrisy of media and studios. They Just hates snyder because snyder refused to copy MCU. Thats why they tried to bring joss whedon but failed and now they tried again with James gunn
This is why I left DC too after what WBD and Marvel James Gunn fired Henry Cavill after he announced of his coming back as Superman again! WB has not been a very honest and trustworthy company for a very long time and distance themselves from the DC fans and trying to get rid of zack Snyder and his followers and starting a new DCU followers and new fans from marvel James Gunn fans!
Old regime dont listen to the fan... new regime not listening to the fan
Same same but different
And the flops will continue.
#NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
Honestly, I think Henry & Ben Walked away from gunn because they didn’t wanna be part of his fart & poop jokes. Henry keeps getting hired everywhere else🤷🏽♂️
Henry Cavill embraced Superman so much he became Superman no other actor has portrayed the man of steel like Henry Cavill did, he is tall, big and muscular, the perfect jaw line Henry look exactly like Superman should look, and the studios screwed him, you have Henry announcing he is back and then you take the role away, that is nuts, and a very cruel thing to do to not only to Henry, but to all the fans that love Henry, shame on you, we want Henry Cavill back as Superman so go away and figure it out, stop screwing around with our Superman hero.
I had heard the guy behind this channel was very optimistic about the new DCU and James Gunn, it's nice to see he also hated the fact they decided to reboot everything when they were starting to put the DCEU pieces back together.
I’m more hoping the dcu will be good than optimistic I think. I don’t trust Gunn but I hope he will do a good job.
Now I Jus Hope Universal Is The Only Studio Who Can Bring Back Dwayne, Ben, W Smith, Henry, Gadot, Ezra, Zachary, Ray, Zack, David F, Patty N Ayer ...
The Rock is a better Businessman than anyone at WB...let that sink in.
@Lordhavok507 you didn't watch the video did you?
HELL YEAH ! "The Rock" was listening to the fans ! James Gunn continues to listen to himself !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
Give the people what they want, the Rock was right.
Gunn will learn, nobody wants his DCU.
Henry Cavill the best Superman ever period.
🌽sweat will flop, blame Gunn.
@@user-fm3xr9yz3i He doesn't have a chance and yes it will be because of Gunn. I can tell u I'm not going to see that garbage s##t of a movie Superman Legacy.
@@mikeseibert4889 same
You mean what went wrong with Gunn. Answer:
EVERYTHING!
Zaslav and Gunn killed DC.
Boycott is on.
The Rock jumped chain of command and forced Cavil to be in the end credit scene and the new regime didn't like that so the Rock got canned and so did Cavil, Cavil got embarrassed that's why he left the Rock's company and management team.
We will miss Henry Cavill Superman , My best live action Superman
WB are just a bunch of fools!
@@AhamedMohammed507 enough of u f00l
They most certainly ARE ! James Gunn, David Zaslav, and the other tone deaf WB execs are a pack of fools for letting Henry Cavill go & NOT allowing us to see more of him as SUPERMAN and all !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE
Walter Hamda I believe is the reason why Cyborg was removed from another JLU movie. Hamda and the guy who played Cyborg were at odds, this is what happens when you have these executives who have no knowledge or vision of these characters producing these movies. It makes remember when Kevin Smith was talking about coming out with his version of Superman back in the day, the executive producer at that time did not want superman to fly only run and he had to fight a big giant spider ??? The movie was dead at that moment, and Kevin Smith turned it down...
The sad part is that there are more haters than anything else. They destroy everything on social media. If you don’t like or hate what they want they belittle you. It’s the worst of humanity. If you enjoy something keep it to yourself. It’s a sad state of affairs.
They committed a huge blunder letting Cavill go and scrapping the long term plans with him. My interest in DC-WB fell off a cliff because of this. Regardless I'm still subbed to your awesome channel.
WBD signed their doom with Gunn.
#NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
I seen several of Gunns movies. where either he wrote or directed or both. My thoughts is they have less than a 50% chance of getting better with Gunn behind the wheel. The Rock said it best listen to the fans they know what they want!!
The fans that let Black Adam flop?
Walter Hamada is the biggest failure in Hollywood. How he got hired by Paramount after WB baffles me. Honestly, what value does he provide? He is a franchise destroyer.
If you think that's bad, Gunns TSS was DC's biggest flop in 10yrs prior to the flash and they gave him a spin off tv show. Insane.
Then they gave him the keys to the whole of the DC empire. Lunacy.
Henry Cavill is the Best looking SuperMan character that has came out of Hollywood Big Screen can we please keep him as SuperMan !!!
Henry Cavill announcing he's out as superman is like John Lennon said to the three that he's out of The Beatles.
Gunn had to get rid of Henry because of who Henry was attached to.
Everyone seems to forget that DJ had announced that he was going to be a consultant to DC & that he had a vision & plan to make Black Adam the new leader of the DCEU.
As for the WB announcing Henry’s return, they did but they said “in Black Adam”, there was never an official announcement that he was going to be Superman moving forward other than from Dany Garcia, DJ & Henry himself.
James Gunn was not an over night hire as people seem to think, it had already been in the talks.
It was also known that no official contract was signed stating Henry was officially back, the contract was only the Cameo in black Adam.
Therefore, if Henry thought he was officially back & if he was advised he was back as Superman that would not of come to him directly from the studio, it would have been relayed to him by his manager Dany Garcia.
Look at the timing of the announcement, it all coincided with Henry’s premiere tour for Enola - therefore using that platform to talk about coming back as Superman. If you watch all of Henry’s interview, at minimum 30% of all the interviews focused on his return as Superman, announcing his leaving the Witcher.
Literally Henry tsunami all interviews for his own benefit on projects outside of Enola.
Why???
To stronghold Safran and Gunn into firming up a contract with Henry. But Henry was not alone, a huge “Rock” hung off of Henry’s neck.
Henry was let go & pretty much erased because DJ & Dany came along with it. That is the disliked, Henry was collateral damage by association.
Henry should have had a signed contract before making any announcement. Which he did not.
So blame Dany & DJ. They are the reason.
it was all because of that deal with JG for superman movie... Then he wanted his own movie rather than MoS2 and I guess Zaslav saw somthing in him and offered him a wheel of the DC to have some good number in near future. I hope it will fail as hell :)
Zaslav, Gunn and Saffran are 🤡s. I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮
Hiring James Gunn = was THE WORST mistake Hermada or ANYONE could've done to continue or spin off ANY movie character that was ALREADY on solid standing with fans!
Yes WE FANS of Henry Cavil's Superman (a GREAT homage to Christopher Reeve's Superman, personally I'm THE fan as I grew up in that era).
No Henry no views. Simple business. I for one will not be watching any superman without Henry. He is the best superman ever
It pisses me off so much that they had a man of steel and justice league 2 planned and just like that gone…. Smh
Huge fan of original films so having Cavil was a relief. I don't see why he couldn't continue in the current DC world and then have a significantly younger guy for prequals. I think people could get on board with that. But when you keep chopping and changing, no one can get invested. Gutted we will not see him again. I for one won't grace cinema for next one. Yes I will watch it but I'm not adding to box office opening figures. I think everyone should show there disappointment in this unfair treatment of Cavil.
Exactly the factual sentiment in this video, is that the Black Adam movie was to build a good story for the future, so in reality anyone that didn't see that and was unreasonably nit picking at certain details are extremely short sighted and have no long term vision.
My thoughts are that every DC project going forward is going to either under perform or bomb and we’ve already seen that 3 times this year & we’re about to see it a 4th time. also the DC comic book characters will never be treated with the respect & reverence that Christopher Nolan, Zack Snyder Patty Jenkins, David Ayer & James Wan treated them with until DC is sold separately from WBD. so long as DC continues to remain under WBD’s umbrella of influence we’re never going to see the comic book stories or characters we enjoy be taken seriously. Instead we’re going to continue to be force-fed a bunch of bathroom humor copy paste retreads of marvels style with DC packaging
The flops will continue into Gunns DCU 🚮. Zaslav may sell before Legacy even starts filming, when he sees Aquaman 2 and Creature Commandos flop.
Ah that's good to know Mr. Superman.
@Henrycavillprivaite GOD Bless for the reply!
Because of the low numbers in Back Adam, it gave James Gun a reason to convince David Zaslav not to keep Henry Cavill since the numbers didn't show that fans were interested in Henry Cavill returning as Superman.
I would argue the exact opposite. Black Adam didn't necessarily set the box office on fire, but was clearly a step in the right direction for getting fans back on board. It moved the needle and the pendulum was finally starting to swing the other way then WB threw it all away. It was and still is the only DCEU film since Aquaman to make anything remotely close to $400 million. The closest comparison I can make is how Batman Begins performed and then how The Dark Knight was the film that blew up. Would following the path of Black Adam and DCEU be more successful than rebooting? I tend to think so. Cavill as Superman is perfect casting and we had him back but WB always self sabotages at the last second.
It did those numbers without China. Best numbers of any post Aquaman DCEU film. WBD and Gunn seemingly not interested in increasing the audience for DC movies. Weird.
@@jtjdrums Best numbers of any post Aquaman DCEU film is not saying much. With a 260 million budget, Black Adam made 390 million, that's not good. In film terms for a movie to be successful it has to make more than three times it's budget to make profit. Now if black Adam's budget was 100 million than a 390 million earning is a hit movie but that was not the case.
@@General.Audience compared to what followed it's gangbusters. Guess they love a loss ...
@@jtjdrums to what came after doesn't matter cuz it's getting rebooted
Simply put for DC, if the next Superman movie does/t have Henry as Superman, I won't be buying tickets or seeing it on release at MAX or Prime. They want to lose revenue, drop Henry.
WELCOME BACK HENRY CAVILL YOUR THE GOAT
WBD and Dc just shot themselves in their heads. Majority of people wanted this but instead they want to shove a Marvel copycats into our throats.
Dcu will fail, people will divert.
Facts, I'm a long time DC only fan and im completely OUT.
Zaslav and Gunn killed DC. #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮.
It was already dead, the general audience never embraced it.
@@shadysif6220 true. I would not. They screwed up and betrayed so many.
We want Henry Cavil as superman pls come back❤❤
With all due respect, James Gunn does for bullshit what rocks did for Stonehenge 🤷♂️.
I applaud you for wording everything straight from the heart towards the last minute or so of your video. It spoke volumes and resonated from deep within the souls of Henry Cavill fans. I will not forgive the betrayal that WB & Gunn did to him and the embarrassment of what he went through after his announcement. Which is why, even if I stand alone in this, I WILL NOT SUPPORT GUNNS DCU NOR HIS DUMPSTER FIRE SUPERMAN LEGACY MOVIE. I'm certain that once Gunns material fails at the box office, that the heads of WB/Discovery will cut off Gunns job and will hire someone more competent and beloved.
I'm with you...100%
It'd be super awesome if nobody in the world watched absolutely anything done by James Gunn and that he'd get fired, if he got fired, I'm sure Henry would be back on the spot 100%.
well it looks like snyderverse was restored for few weeks or regarding to some moves (cavill back as a superman, superman in black adam, batman in aquaman 2, superman and batfleck in postcredit scenes of the flash to announce MoS2 and knighmare future) we had it!!! daaaamn 😔
Gunn ruined things, that's why I will never pay a penny for a DC product with Gunns name attached.
Henrys Superman should have had 3 Supermans films end of story, he was the best Superman after Christopher Reeve.
In my opinion, the decisions that are being made by the DCEU executives will cause them to fail. They already failed with the Flash movie. It didn't turnout at all what they expected.Also having Amber Heard reprise her role as Mera, is turning fans against the movie. A great option for Mera would have been Emilia Clarke, since both actors already performed together in G.O.T. and had a great chemistry together.
Christopher Reeve is my gen-x Superman, but he is gone. Henry Cavil is AWESOME! he adds the attitude that we all want out of that beloved character..... we NEED HENRY!
mark my words, savron and gunn's dcu would fall short.... and they'll blame the fans for that....btw, great video as always sir... thanks
Thank you
💯 Zaslav and Gunn are either dumb or arrogant. The boycott will be brutal. I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮 #NotAPenny #DOA 🚮
WBD doesn't deserve DC, its time to sell.
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If they fail miserably, they'll be on par with the previous regime. Marvel's bench warmers were dunking on DC's first team all stars. BVS dropped the live action Batman and Superman i.p. to a low they hadn't seen in at least a decade or so. The general audience never embraced the questionable/ bad casting or the poorly written, extended universe.
Warners Bros abandons things too quickly. By doing this, they are able to blame directors and actors for their failures. Can't they read the script or story boards and get a feel for if it will be good or not?
Cavill wants to be the next James Bond If he gets the part the Bond producers won't and shouldn't let him do both
Henry był najlepszym" wydarzeniem" jakie przytrafiło się DC i filmom superbohaterskim na tej małej planetce na skraju galaktyki 💫👊💪👍❤️🔥🌌🇵🇱
Thank you for your video! It explains perfectly on how badly Gunn treated Henry Cavill.
I refuse to go see Gunn's Superman Legacy, nor will I spend a dime on any other DC movies he'll be a part of in the future.
BTW, Gunn, your new guy looks like he belongs in a men's underwear advertisement, not playing the role of the Man of Steel.
I wish nothing but the best for Mr. Cavill and ALL future roles he'll perform in, the movies I will pay to go see.
I agree with you
Superman is not something you should kick around with your fans. HE is our Hero and Henry Cavill is our true actor we want to see. I will not see your film without Our true Superman.
I too, i want Cavil back !
I'm broken up about losing Henry Cavill. He is the sweetest person and the perfect Superman. The bean counters at WB blew it big time. Whyyyy would you dump your most popular actor/character in your universe and keep the dude from The Flash (with all his personal baggage)? lol
I disagree with your position that "Cavill was humiliated". Not at all. He actually was approved to return as Superman and everyone at the time at DC were on board. He handled the adverse news with such class and grace that it was obvious none of this was his fault and he conducted himself like a true professional. 🙂
Please be back Henry Cavill!! ❤🙏
Nope
Dwayne Johnson has soo much kove and respect for Cavill as Superman. I have no doubt that in a head to head battle on screen, Johnson wouldve been willing to put Cavill over. Obviously it would be done in a way that doesnt sh@% on The Black Adam character, but i truly believe that Johnson would've happily done the job.