Putting KLM’s new Premium Economy to the test!

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  • čas přidán 15. 12. 2023
  • Curious about KLM’s brand new Premium Economy product, aka Premium Comfort? I flew it for 10+ hours from Amsterdam to San Francisco with the goal of finding out whether it’s worth the extra money, onboard a brand new 787-10 Dreamliner. Also included is an atmospheric early morning departure from Stockholm Arlanda onboard the 737-900 in “Economy Comfort”, which is somewhat confusingly just the extra legroom economy class product, and I test out the Crown Lounge at Amsterdam Schiphol as well. So come along for this detailed trip report and review with some really nice views along the way plus plenty of KLM vibes of course. And let me know what you think!
    Flight information:
    KL1104
    737-900 PH-BXO
    age: 22 years
    Flight time: 1h40m
    KL605
    787-10 PH-BKM
    age: brand new
    Flight time: 10h18m
    Watch the LAX-CDG return in Delta One: • The perfect transatlan...
    How I booked it:
    I bought a paid ticket outbound in Premium Economy and returning in Delta One business class via CDG (video coming soon) for $1,800. Routing: ARN-AMS-SFO / LAX-CDG-ARN.
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    Shot on: Sony FX3 & iPhone 14 Pro
    Music: Epidemic Sound
    Shot, written and edited by Gabriel Leigh, a.k.a. Gabe Leigh.
    SECTIONS:
    00:33 Trip to airport (3:50 a.m.)
    01:10 Pearl Lounge Arlanda T2
    02:34 737 to Amsterdam
    04:13 737 cabin and service
    05:07 Landing AMS
    06:47 Crown Lounge AMS
    08:39 First impressions onboard the 787-10
    09:41 Takeoff AMS
    11:34 Seat and amenities review
    13:11 Lunch service
    13:59 Lavs and economy comfort
    14:36 South Greenland views
    15:09 Mid-flight snack
    15:35 Pre-arrival meal
    16:03 Moving map details
    16:30 Captain’s announcement & descent
    18:05 Landing SFO
    14:20 Conclusion
    #premiumeconomy #KLM #tripreport

Komentáře • 288

  • @airedition
    @airedition  Před 2 měsíci

    Support my work directly! www.buymeacoffee.com/gabeleigh

  • @MBNeal
    @MBNeal Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thank you so much for this review. Your's is the best I've seen for this product. I'll be experiencing it for myself this summer.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks that’s great if you found it useful!

  • @FRANCISCARUSOworld
    @FRANCISCARUSOworld Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very nice review and well edited also. You deserve to grow bigger on CZcams! 👏

  • @abrown4169
    @abrown4169 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video, looking at premium economy choices to Athens this summer, very informative, thanks and KLM pajamas!

  • @BenjaminBolliger
    @BenjaminBolliger Před 5 měsíci

    Great review, filming and music on point -- totally want those pajamas!

  • @daniello1
    @daniello1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    another excellent video, thanks!

  • @rk6483
    @rk6483 Před 6 měsíci

    I always love flying with KLM. Your videos are such good quality, I just discovered your youtube channel. And I'd love a KLM pajama lol

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you, glad you discovered it!!

  • @jahag
    @jahag Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! I'm flying KLM from AMS-SFO in a month (business there, premium home) and was great to see your review! Also, pyjamas!

  • @joosefr
    @joosefr Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for a good review! I will fly with KLM for my first time ever i March GOT-AMS-IST. Hanging out in my old pyjamas while watching this.

  • @douglewis7067
    @douglewis7067 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Nice review! I'm glad you called out the real metric in choosing Premium Economy: "how much more than Coach would I pay for this?". That really helps in deciding whether or not to spring for an upgrade (or a cheaper upgrade to Extra Legroom Economy).

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks! Yep it’s a useful way to look at it.

  • @F1travels
    @F1travels Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! Love KLM, will be flying it YYC - AMS in June. Pajamas!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thank you! I've been considering YYC-AMS for this summer myself, let's see!

  • @mchaelwhale
    @mchaelwhale Před 13 dny +1

    I'm going to fly KLM from Amsterdam to Los Angeles in eco comfort this summer. Now I know what to expect. Thanks!

  • @FlyRightInsights
    @FlyRightInsights Před 5 měsíci

    Awesome to see you review KLM! You should definitely try out TAP on both their short/long haul flights.
    Wish you lots of safe miles in 2024 :D

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much! True I have flown TAP in Europe quite a bit but never on long haul. Will try to do so soon!

  • @kaspasgmail
    @kaspasgmail Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the detailed review. I am flying in 5 days same class / same plane to NY and I was very curious to hear your point of you. I am not coming from that regular business class experience and I am not that spoiled 😅😅😅 and I really hope to enjoy the trip.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Glad it was useful! If you’re used to economy it’ll definitely be a nice trip!

  • @driver288
    @driver288 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for reviewing premium economy for us regular folks. Seems to be a welcome trend among aviation reviewers nowadays

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      It is an increasingly relevant cabin class for sure and in many cases the price is right, so yeah, it's an interesting one to review!

  • @renok12
    @renok12 Před 6 měsíci +1

    really appreciate for the video! the price you paid for the flight is soooo good!! i am now comparing front economy and premium economy, and as you said, it's seems wider if it's not too crowded in front economy seats. maybe i will try both of them in my next flight!! thank you

  • @fabian_k3674
    @fabian_k3674 Před 3 měsíci

    Amazing views and great review. I´ve only ever been in the pride lounge in Nairobi and the KLM one just looks stunning compared to it. Those Pyjamas sound great :D

  • @emz9688
    @emz9688 Před 4 měsíci

    Montanan here! Loved the little fun facts you got on your screen lol

  • @danieleregoli812
    @danieleregoli812 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Agree with the Eco Comfort tip. It's all about legroom for me. I'm a small, compact, lean guy, and I don't need a lot of shoulder space.

  • @baddwarf
    @baddwarf Před 2 měsíci +1

    nice vid. Very informational to see what premium economy exactly is about.

  • @urielisaacs4754
    @urielisaacs4754 Před 6 měsíci

    Love that FR24 jacket!… not sure what I wish I had more, that or those SQ PJ’s you are giving away.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      It’s true the jacket is pretty fun!

  • @andreasb913
    @andreasb913 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the report! Pyjamas on airplanes are always nice 👍🏻

  • @FA-DK
    @FA-DK Před 5 měsíci

    Nice report. Useful to know about the seat comfort or lack of it. Also like your mentioning the pajamas, though that's not a feature in KLM Premium Economy :)

  • @shilakalloe9506
    @shilakalloe9506 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanx for sharing this video
    Beautyful aircraft i love to fly with klm always with them good service and the cabin crew is very polite.
    ❤❤❤

  • @aocsqsp
    @aocsqsp Před 6 měsíci

    Your voice is so relaxing to listen to, I should slip on my pyjamas next time.

  • @rishabhshukla4290
    @rishabhshukla4290 Před 5 měsíci

    Definitely would like to expand my pyjamas collection. Great video!

  • @SiannieMarianne
    @SiannieMarianne Před 6 měsíci +3

    Hej hej! Hope it ended up not being too bad sitting next to a stranger 😁 Super cool to have a video I can look back to of this flight I was on, and extra cool that I was able to witness the "behind the scenes" in real life haha!
    Goodluck to everyone entering the giveaway!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Hey! I’d meant to send you the link so I’m glad you found it. And glad you enjoyed it 😃. I realize now the one thing I left out of the video was an update that I definitely lucked out with my seat neighbor that day! 😂

  • @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles
    @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles Před 4 měsíci +2

    we flew LAX to AMS March 2023 with Premium/Econ.. fantastic! we tried the same product with Air France 777 CDG to LAX, not very good. United Prem/Eco is righ in the middle. Later this year we are trying Virg All Prem/Econ LaX to LHR using the A350-1000. Best plane for has been the Dreamliner. subscribed to support your channel. You need to reach 5k soon! pajamas

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for subscribing! And thanks for your thoughts too. I'm curious how you find Virgin on the 350, the product looks really great to me and I've heard good things. Agree Air France's looks among the worst!

    • @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles
      @relaxingsilentfilms-LosAngeles Před 3 měsíci

      @@airedition 🙏🙏

  • @royvankan2723
    @royvankan2723 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice review. The plane in the beginning of the video was an Embraer E-195 E2, landing on 18R, you were landing on 18C. Greetings from an afgeek. ;-)

  • @littleraven28
    @littleraven28 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As a KLM platimum member ( not for life ... yet) and living near AMS it's my preferred carrier, thou I also often fly Delta because of their Delta one Suites. KLM needs to get those if you ask me.
    I flew this class last time I came back from Suriname when they didn't have any business seats left. I am with you on this one. The extra space is nice but it didn't recline enough to be comfortable for me and after about 5-6 hrs I was exhausted trying to stay seated ( I kept sliding doen as the seat angle stays the same when reclining) It's better than economy - at least on this flight as it is always overbooked - but on a less busy flight I would probably fly economy in the hope that you can get some extra seats that are empty next to you. (but only if there is no Business class)

  • @adbp473
    @adbp473 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the review, we are thinking about taking KLM from Toronto (YYZ) to AMS an overnight flight , then onto Genoa, Italy in a next few weeks and was looking at Premium Economy as an option (we'll be taking two checked bags each). BTW: Pyjamas

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      I’m really glad when the reviews can help people make decisions!

  • @stuartjgarland
    @stuartjgarland Před 6 měsíci

    Pyjamas, interesting to see how it's spelt in different places, I've flown Premium Economy on KLM but never long haul so thanks for sharing the insight,

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +1

      And you've won the giveaway! Send me a message on Instagram @gabeleigh and let me know an address to send to!

  • @AnnCannon-bt1yx
    @AnnCannon-bt1yx Před 17 dny +1

    Thanks for this. It helped me make a choice, although I don't have any pyjamas!

  • @jaydawg2023
    @jaydawg2023 Před 5 měsíci +5

    P.s. I had a KLM comfort plus bulkhead seat a while back. Leg room was way better than on any Premium Economy seat. I believe it was a 777

  • @alant8327
    @alant8327 Před 2 měsíci +1

    MEal presentation looks solid!

  • @thetudors9875
    @thetudors9875 Před 5 měsíci

    Great Report, Thank you. Pyjamas !

  • @ljacobs357
    @ljacobs357 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Nice report. In ny experience, KLM always has good service. Actually, there are a number of airline lounges that have pay restaurants. The food in Lounge 52 on the first floor is free and is usually good.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the comment; curious to know which airline lounges have pay restaurants in them because I don’t think I ever came across one!

  • @jmgrahit26
    @jmgrahit26 Před 4 měsíci

    I would love the pajamas, Gabe!

  • @Vromiaris778
    @Vromiaris778 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice review - I won’t be giving up Economy Comfort any time soon and my April KLM flight doesn’t’t even offer the Premium Economy Class. I am not a frequent enough flier or wealthy enough to get the supreme platinum and gin filled bottle class, so extra leg room is my luxury!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      Economy Comfort seems to a smart choice!

  • @TheVaughan5
    @TheVaughan5 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks for your review, overall I like KLM. I think P.E. on most major airlines is fine for long haul up to around 7/8 hours. After that I go for Business because the chance of getting a genuine sleep in a lie flat bed/seat for at least 6/7 hours is magic My regular long haul is around 11.5 hours and it’s so good to arrive feeling great and not jet lagged .😊

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 3 měsíci

      Totally agree! 11 hours in PE, while better than economy, is something I try to avoid.

  • @disneyprincess820
    @disneyprincess820 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video, was debating this class, I had images of it being better, for the price, thanks for sharing, all planes should I've out comfy pajamas and slippers, would be great 🤣

  • @Mountje1985
    @Mountje1985 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! Greetings from Amsterdam. Pyjamas 🤪

  • @garciatunion
    @garciatunion Před 5 měsíci

    I flew with KLM from Bali to Singapore and also from Buenos Aires to Santiago, great product and vibe! Pijamas

  • @Minhaos
    @Minhaos Před 6 měsíci +2

    The color palette of the cabin looks amazing!
    I wonder KLM supply pajama in their business class.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah it's really nice!

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 Před 6 měsíci

      No pyjamas at KLM World Business class.

  • @mvhsm
    @mvhsm Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome video! And pajamas! lol

  • @austinparagas1371
    @austinparagas1371 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Pajamas! You had a similar trip as I did ARN>AMS>JFK! Definitely felt the same about the quality of the hard product but overall the crew is some of the best and lovely to spend time with on a medium range trip.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci

      Glad to hear you had a similar experience!

  • @joz2458
    @joz2458 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks Gabe, miss your Flight Radar reports. Have you now gone solo? Good luck as you’re the best in my humble opinion.
    Downside of using an excellent airline KLM, is having to transfer using Schipol - I would agree it’s always super busy with very cramped gates for departures.
    I travel from UK to Scandinavia quite a lot but tend to use SAS because of convenience ie direct routes from Manchester UK but I would agree the service doesn’t compare to KLM - apart from a cup of coffee, you get no water or a snack.
    Also KLM airline crew seem to go the extra mile even in economy. On a return, very busy flight, from Helsinki to Manchester via Schipol, airline crew went out of their way to individually notify me of the transfer time and connecting flight. I thought that really nice and efficient.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks for your thoughts and the kind words! Yep in your case I would opt for direct flights if possible too. I’m still doing tons of Flightradar videos, just not doing as many trip reports over there, have moved those over here and dedicating the FR24 channel to cockpit and behind the scenes!

  • @Norwegian.Flights.And.Spotting

    The aircraft you saw on approach into AMS is the Embraer E195 E2 😉

  • @hannesk.1470
    @hannesk.1470 Před 6 měsíci

    Food looks spectacular! What a nice, big salad and you did'nt even mention😮. Singapore Airlines PE food looks medicore aigainst that.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting! I only took a short leg in SQ PE

  • @driver288
    @driver288 Před 5 měsíci

    That is an excellent point! Water should always be free on flights. @SAS listen to this!
    I had a weird experience last fall where I missed my flight from Oslo to Stockholm by a hair and had to get an SAS flight instead. It cost more than twice my original return ticket one way and my flight was leaving straight away. I had to run through the whole airport to not miss this flight too and got I boarding panting like crazy and started coughing cause of the dry air. Had to pay 35SEK for a bottle of water even though the flight attendant saw I was having problems coughing. Finished the bottle in seconds. And it helped but still. 35:- for a little water. Not great SAS!
    You have the nicest voice to listen to in your adventurous videos by the way. 👍🏼

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot! And yeah it's experiences like that that really stay with passengers (re the water price gouging)

  • @bomcabedal
    @bomcabedal Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks, that was interesting. I never consider paying anything more on flights of 2 hrs and under, but I was recently bumped to Business (without asking for it!) on a KLM flight to Detroit and wow, the whole experience makes such a difference in the state you arrive in at the destination. Options like these sound like a good compromise.
    Having said that, it also feels as though Business has now become a degraded 1st class (especially when 1st has been abolished), and Economy Plus (or whatever it's called) a budget Business. I know of a big company my brother works at, who used to let their staff fly business on Atlantic flights, but now habitually puts them in Economy Plus.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      Ah interesting, yeah that's rough if you go from being allowed to book business to only getting economy plus!

  • @pedrocooper
    @pedrocooper Před 6 měsíci

    I took KLM premium comfort to AMS back in August, Great crew, I didn't get pajamas though :)

  • @geegab5178
    @geegab5178 Před 6 měsíci

    Your pyjamas offer is great for me. Cheers.

  • @shikharpilania3290
    @shikharpilania3290 Před 5 měsíci

    Would love those pyjamas!!!

  • @jingchen9047
    @jingchen9047 Před 6 měsíci

    Pajamas will be nice. Traveled economy comfort from AMS to JFK last month, good recline compare to regular economy seats.

  • @wizardkoer782
    @wizardkoer782 Před 6 měsíci

    Great trip report as always. I assume you go through passport control using your Swedish passport in Amsterdam and then enter US using US passport?
    I'm curious what passport do you show while checking in? Airlines typically give me a pretty difficult time and annoy me with visa checks with my AU passport and ask for return tickets until I show them my EU passport lol.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Correct. The airline only cares about your admissibility to the destination, so I check in using the American passport, then exit Schengen on Swedish. Basically just always show the airline the passport you intend to enter the destination with! Thanks and glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Noclue0601
    @Noclue0601 Před 5 měsíci

    I love klm just went to la and sfo last October so I flew with klm and im from holland myself. I would love to fly business class but cannot afford it. im already happy with the service in just economy but thats just because thats luxury for me

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Seems like they are a nice solid airline in every class!

  • @PrescillaMalayter
    @PrescillaMalayter Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video! I’m flying KLM in May ORD-ARN to see Taylor Swift 😝 and currently have Economy booked and paid for an exit row seat. Just saw that PE saver space opened up so I’m debating if I should upgrade for 16,000 pts + $150. Or should I stick with exit row or bulkhead in Economy? Thoughts?

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 2 měsíci

      This would be a tough decision for me, and might depend which seats were available for selection in the PE cabin (also, are you a window or aisle seat person? and are you traveling alone?). The cost to upgrade looks pretty reasonable, but I like a window seat so if I couldn't get first row (bulkhead) of PE, I probably wouldn't bother. That's because from an economy exit row window I'd be able to get up easily, whereas that wouldn't be the case from a non-bulkhead window in PE. Also, I didn't find the PE seats super comfortable for sleeping. Since ORD-AMS will be a pretty short overnight run and I'm pretty sure I'd sleep uncomfortably anyway, I'd most likely decide to stick with economy. Hope that helps!

  • @user-ko7mi6sl3i
    @user-ko7mi6sl3i Před 4 měsíci +1

    Incredible that there are no separate toilets for Premium! Legroom is maximum 96 cm (so maximum 17 cm more than economy and only 8 cm more than comfort).

  • @nlgaudette
    @nlgaudette Před 5 měsíci

    Pajamas!!
    Thanks for the great review of PE. Booking made and we're off to AMS in Sept.

  • @EGO0808
    @EGO0808 Před 6 měsíci +21

    Being a Platinum for life on Flying Blue, I used to fly business class, economy comfort, but now I find the Premium Economy the best bang for the buck. I sleep as good as I would in business class, but I pay far less. And I found ways to still get my nice KLM houses (….). Living in SE Asia, I always fly KLM when going back to Europe every 2/3 months. Still one of my favorite airlines.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Interesting that you sleep well in the seat. I don’t think I would, though I didn’t try it on a night flight!

    • @paullewis2413
      @paullewis2413 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You’re lucky being able to sleep. My regular long haul is over 11hrs. and I used to find it difficult to get more than just a couple of hours sleep at most in P.E. so I switched to Business.

    • @tangoelcorte
      @tangoelcorte Před 5 měsíci

      Klm houses? How?

    • @EGO0808
      @EGO0808 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@tangoelcorte haha! No KLM houses indeed in premium economy.

    • @rob99043
      @rob99043 Před 5 měsíci

      You would be surprised when you try another business class on a premium airlines like Singapore Airlines, Eva Air, ect. KLM is a joke, getting served by 60 year old cabin crew and the prices are just to laugh about. 😃

  • @lucchese20
    @lucchese20 Před 6 měsíci

    Pygamas! You’re lucky. When I booked the same flight AMS-SFO in Premium Economy, my wife and I were downgraded to Economy via LAX due to aircraft change so never got to try what I had paid for. Bummer. 😡

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci

      Oh that is rough. Did they offer a refund?

  • @dc-travel
    @dc-travel Před 5 měsíci

    Well done, thanks for that review. I also use to fly quite a lot with KLM. I like there reliability and good standard. Airlines should stop making seats reclining like that in the premium eco.

  • @gropiusBar
    @gropiusBar Před 5 měsíci

    I recently checked KLM for business class flights to Singapore and found that they charge an additional €85 per way per business class seat if you want to reserve a seat in advance.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah that is a very unfortunate new development. AF and KLM are doing this for non-elites. Sadly seems to be becoming accepted as the norm in Europe now.

  • @nikkiredfern4515
    @nikkiredfern4515 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Like you, I'm a fan of KLM! I wish they provided pyjamas along with the Delft houses! But I do appreciate the professional service levels provided by their great crew.

  • @carlosezetagomez
    @carlosezetagomez Před 5 měsíci

    ¿Wich backpack you use in the video for flight personal item? Looks nice

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      It’s a brand called WANDRD. Best backpack I’ve owned!

  • @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864
    @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing. Ill be flying KLM 'first class', from AMS to GLA. Unsure how the 'first class' experience will be on that short trip. I am thinking it will be more like the premium economy. Thanks again for giving me a glimpse of what to expect. #pajamas

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      Glad you found it useful! KLM doesn’t offer a first class so I guess you mean business class. On that flight it’ll be an economy seat with better service, possibly a bit more legroom! I think it’s adequate for a short hop 🙂

    • @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864
      @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864 Před 4 měsíci

      I was thinking the same thing. Will find out next week! my flights are with Virgin Atlantic but partnered with delta one on the long hauls then with klm on the shorts. Thank you!@@airedition

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci +1

      This video will give you a good sense of what to expect on KLM's 737 Europe business class czcams.com/video/cVxWZ2dG66w/video.html @@maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864

    • @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864
      @maladyhawkemaladyhawke8864 Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for sending that link. I have 2 different aircrafts with KLM and I was hoping to get one of those houses! Doesn't look like it based on the videos but still grateful for the trip@@airedition

  • @FRANCISCARUSOworld
    @FRANCISCARUSOworld Před 6 měsíci

    07:20 The original Blue café is actually a very nice café in the center of Amsterdam with a great view over the city. higly recommend! But its no surprise to me that they make you pay even for the lounge... 😅

  • @4700_Dk
    @4700_Dk Před 2 měsíci

    I use to fly KLM but now choose Delta or American out of Copenhagen direct to the U.S. Your right about SAS, I stopped flying them as well due to cost and service. Premium Economy on Delta and American are pretty good. The seats are wider than KLM by the looks of it.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před měsícem

      I think the width depends on the aircraft to some extent. Should get out the measuring stick next time, get more scientific about it! Thanks for the comment.

  • @manualflight
    @manualflight Před 5 měsíci

    Pajamas! Demand for Premium economy seems to be high for most airlines. Sometimes i dont understand why they cost more than business class. I assume a lot of people manage to upgrade based on their status.

  • @ganymedes62
    @ganymedes62 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Being Dutch, flying KLM and/or Delta is my general choice for getting to the US. My usual route is AMS-ATL-TPA as there's no way to get to TPA directly from Amsterdam. Of course, having entered the Global Entry program made the whole travel experience a lot more easy :-) The only thing I'm not happy about is KLM no longer offering free seat choice on their 'Standard' flights like they used to.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 2 měsíci

      That is a shame yeah! I hear you on global entry, that’s a game-changer!

    • @ganymedes62
      @ganymedes62 Před 2 měsíci

      @@airedition Yep, when you travel to the US on a regular basis, having Global Entry is basically a must 🙂 I was lucky in that I could actually do my interview at Schiphol, Amsterdam.

  • @SahirAsadi
    @SahirAsadi Před 5 měsíci +1

    Let me win those pajamas so I can feeeel this comfort in my never ending night shifts 🏥… enjoy your flight ✈️ ❤

  • @Littlething41
    @Littlething41 Před 4 měsíci

    Is it too late to mention Pajamas? 😂 You still have them? Any idea what food is served in regular economy? Nice video.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      Too late yes, sorry! Stay tuned for future giveaways! No idea about the economy menu.

  • @christianeduardo1
    @christianeduardo1 Před 6 měsíci

    I’m amazed that you didn’t fly in your pajamas 😅 (waking up at 03:00 am!)

  • @laksi0505
    @laksi0505 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Everybody can see the rubber by the window, This is the quality Boeing delivered POOR POOR POOR

  • @michaelfeeney8437
    @michaelfeeney8437 Před 5 měsíci

    Crazy. Having to fly south to fly all the way back to SFO. Aren’t there any direct flights from your place ?

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      There are no direct flights from Stockholm. But this is far from a crazy routing. A bit south, adds maybe an hour. I’ve done far worse!

  • @FRANCISCARUSOworld
    @FRANCISCARUSOworld Před 6 měsíci

    What camera do you use, btw?

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Sony FX3 with some backup from iPhone 15 Pro Max and a DJI Action II

  • @etoiledemer99
    @etoiledemer99 Před měsícem

    Any thoughts of how it compares to Air France's premium eco? I need to fly to Berlin from Toronto, and cannot decide which airlines to choose :)

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před měsícem

      If it’s the older AF premium economy that’s on most aircraft, I think the KLM is way better. AF does have a new one, not widely available yet, that I haven’t tried yet!

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like KLM they are a reliable airline. It’s important to remember that Premium Economy is still Economy so the difference isn’t going to have any wow factor. On my regular long haul (11.5 h) I used to fly P.E. (B.A.) however they once upgraded me to Business and as they say, the rest is history. No more P.A. for me 😁

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +2

      It’s a good point! We shouldn’t expect too much from a product which is still essentially “economy”. For me increasingly the real appeal of PE is that it will mostly have seats in pairs at the sides, meaning if I’m traveling with someone and want to actually have a conversation or work on something together, it is more appealing as a result than most business classes for that purpose, and I don’t mind the more cramped conditions. Now if it’s a night flight and we need to sleep that’s another story. And yes when I’m solo, if at all possible I’ll be sticking to business! 😁

    • @TheVaughan5
      @TheVaughan5 Před 5 měsíci

      @@airedition Agreed. My flight is overnight and I really appreciate the lie flat bed that gives me a minimum of 6 hours sleep, sometimes nearly 7 hours. I don’t care about the airport lounges, they seem to be getting more and more overcrowded so I often give them a miss.

  • @mohamadkhubaibkazi1865
    @mohamadkhubaibkazi1865 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have always been loyal with Start Alliance, majorly AC and LH. Have done P.E in AC and P.E & Business (Surprise upgrade) on LH. LH Business doesn't offer pajams :(
    Never flown KLM in the past.
    I am looking to book a P.E again with AC to JNB, but this time Star Alliance is not providing me good enough options in terms of transit times( 12 in YYZ & 14 hrs in FRA) as I start my journey from a very interiror aiport in Northern Canada (YMM). KLM is the only one that is giving me super low transit times (YMM-YYC-AMS-JNB & Round trip). Still contemplating if I should do this route in P.E on KLM? It is a lonnggg journey.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před měsícem

      If I were you I would break it up and stop in AMS a couple days!

  • @Renanleandro18
    @Renanleandro18 Před 5 měsíci

    I fly both and to be honest, the premium economy seat is more comfortable than the Business seat.

  • @sandravanos2012
    @sandravanos2012 Před 2 měsíci

    Are the seats also wider than normal economy? That would be a huge plus for me

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 2 měsíci +1

      They are yes, that’s a big plus for them because 787 economy seats are very narrow.

  • @Ksandur
    @Ksandur Před 6 měsíci +2

    Something about KLM charging additionally for meals in the lounge doesn't surprise me. 😅 There's something so dutch to cutting costs, in the same way they likely minimize cost on the seats. The Dutch won't have a penny gone to waste, which isn't necessarily bad! But damn not even on a pair of pajamas...

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah interesting. And yet KLM are generous compared to other airlines in some respects (like free food, beer in euro economy).

    • @ljacobs357
      @ljacobs357 Před 6 měsíci

      There are a number of airlines having paid food in their lounges. The food on the first floor is free and usually good. In my experience, very few airlines provide pajamas on transatlantic routes.

    • @FRANCISCARUSOworld
      @FRANCISCARUSOworld Před 5 měsíci

      That’s why I always fly with Asian or Middle Eastern airlines whenever possible. The service is a thousand times better and you don’t usually have to pay for extras.

  • @dustyverhoeven
    @dustyverhoeven Před 5 měsíci

    pajamas!. i flew premium economy in October aswel, but towards Osaka Japan, the difference in price between economy and premium economy was only around €90,- more so it was and easy decision. we flew airfrance older premium economy back and KLMs was way....WAYY... beter. definitely will do it again.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Ah that’s a great price! And yes the older AF version definitely looks pretty bad.

  • @aletoro58
    @aletoro58 Před 5 měsíci

    I agree that Economy Comfort on KLM is much more worth the price than Premium Comfort. I paid just € 128 AMS HKG and had plenty of space. Premium is usually way more expensive. KLM staff is lovely.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Good to hear that you agree! Thanks for watching!

  • @seanregan2249
    @seanregan2249 Před 5 měsíci

    Great report and who doesn't like pyjamas :)

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Hi @seanregan2249, congrats, you've won the pajamas! Send me an email at gabriel-at-airedition.com or a message on Instagram @gabeleigh and let me know the address to send to!

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      Hi @seanregan2249, I haven't heard from you; last chance to get in touch or I'll need to pick another winner!

  • @oteuferth
    @oteuferth Před 3 měsíci +1

    Well, if I win the PIJAMAS, how are you getting them to Venezuela? Love your videos. Saludos.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hehe thanks! The pajama giveaway has already closed but stay tuned I will be doing more in future videos!

  • @The777Man1
    @The777Man1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    KLM to me is usually a bit below average when it comes to hard product and food but their Flight attendants are very friendly. I guess that's why they have an undeservedly good reputation.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci

      Friendly flight attendants can go a long way toward making a flight good!

  • @borns6337
    @borns6337 Před 6 měsíci

    I totaly need a new Pyjama.

  • @user-ou9bx3er3v
    @user-ou9bx3er3v Před 3 měsíci +1

    Would love those pajamas!

  • @mrmysticman1954
    @mrmysticman1954 Před 6 měsíci

    Pakamas! Do you plane to fly domestic in Norway with Wideroe? Fly to all the remote places, and all the bad weather it comed with the airports

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Making plans for that as we speak, yes!

  • @joeriuffink5033
    @joeriuffink5033 Před 4 měsíci

    The biggest disadvantage of premec is hou have a bulky arm rest, so if you have an empty row, you can not stretch out over that row whereas in econ you put the armrests up and you have a econ business class bed

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      True that is definitely a potential downside. However I almost never have an empty long-haul flight these days, so I don't generally take it into consideration.

  • @reidhauke3389
    @reidhauke3389 Před 6 měsíci +1

    As en Eurobonus member, I look forward to KLM. However, paying in the lounge... I will wear pajamas when I go there.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Should be interesting to see how that partnership develops!

  • @nicoprabowo
    @nicoprabowo Před 6 měsíci

    I just finished cooking rendang for dinner tonight😁

  • @chrisstevens8723
    @chrisstevens8723 Před 4 měsíci

    Foot rest was stuck because you had stuff in pocket above, I find this in a lot of these seats, you need pocket empty for it to go high enough to allow you to lower it, odd as that is to write

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah you are no doubt correct - bad design if you ask me!

  • @Alex-yy8ng
    @Alex-yy8ng Před 5 měsíci

    Premium economy is a tough one for airlines. It has to be worth the money for economy passengers to want to spend the extra for a better in flight experience, but if they make the hard product too comfortable they run the risk of losing highly profitable business class passengers who may be more willing turn to premium economy to save money and/or air miles.
    PE has improved over the years and I think there some more innovations to come, but ultimately I can't see airlines making their PE cabins that much better than the current industry standard today which is a recliner seat with 18-21 inches in seat width, 37 - 40 inch seat pitch, 8 inches of recline and possibly slightly better food.

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Very true! All I know is by the rate at which we're seeing PE spread, it must be proving a nice moneymaker for most airlines.

    • @Alex-yy8ng
      @Alex-yy8ng Před 5 měsíci

      ⁠@@aireditionYeh for sure, they’re making big profits from PE. I did LHR - SIN last year on their 777 which is a premium heavy route and roughly 60% of the entire plane was taken up by first, business and PE. Airlines make very little profit from an economy passenger but they have to it available. However, they can make huge profits from a single passenger travelling in first, business or PE.

  • @Mizuidk
    @Mizuidk Před 5 měsíci

    Does anyone know where I could find the flight radar fleece he has I couldn’t find it on eBay or anything

    • @airedition
      @airedition  Před 5 měsíci

      You won't find it, only a select number made for people who work with them!

    • @Mizuidk
      @Mizuidk Před 5 měsíci

      @@airedition thanks!

  • @jch636
    @jch636 Před 6 měsíci

    KLM should up their game and provide pajamas in Premium Comfort!

  • @TheKoiPartner
    @TheKoiPartner Před 5 měsíci

    PIYJAMASSSS! 🎉

  • @chrisflier
    @chrisflier Před 6 měsíci +2

    Who's that screaming like that at 03:50 in the morning!? :p