Odell Beckham Jr. brings 'championship pedigree' to the Dolphins | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Mike Florio and Chris Simms discuss how Odell Beckham Jr.'s production declined with the Ravens and analyze how he will fit in Miami alongside Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill. #NBCSports #NFL #MiamiDolphins
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Odell Beckham Jr. brings 'championship pedigree' to the Dolphins | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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He's the WR3, he was on the lowest volume pass offense in the NFL last year and an extra year off his ACL injury. I like the move. $3 million is low risk/high reward.
*low production/high injury
As a ravens fan, I was outraged they signed him for the amount they did. Money well spent for the dolphins
I mean shit, I don’t know who wasn’t shocked when Baltimore spent $15M/year guaranteed for 1 year for OBJ last season, considering he took a year off from that Super Bowl injury. Like $7M with a lot more incentive opportunities to get to that same $18M potential was my guess for what he would’ve signed for last year. I thought he was gonna push for more this year because he had even more time between that injury to continue his strength and conditioning to get right and he might not have been great last year, but he also wasn’t playing in an offense that promotes any of its receivers to be great. That’s just not the kind of system Baltimore runs. The TE gets more favor in the passing game in their offense.
As a Rams fan I would say the same, he was key to our Super Bowl LVI road to victory
@@HawgWyldFishing They only gave him all that money because Lamar really wanted him
For 3 million the locker room vibes and knowledge are worth it.
He's come such a long way, cause a few years ago the reaction would be locker room vibes as huge, huge, negatives.
Can't complain about 3 mil at all
Justin Beiber might disagree
LMAO, people want to forget about that video @@joec8942
That video bruh🥶🥶🥶🥶
In 2021 when the Rams got him, he was then the 3 or 4 WR behind Kupp, Woods, & maybe Jefferson. Then a day later Woods torn his ACL & by Super Bowl LVI he was the Rams deep threat. He was key to our 2021 championship 💍
In the first half he was tearing the bengals up. Before he got hurt he was on his way to being Super Bowl MVP.
I believe they agreed to terms weeks ago, and the Dolphins chose not to have him sign the contract until after May 1, so it would not hurt their potential compensatory picks next off season.
OBJ was released so he wouldn't have affected the comp picks formula no matter when he signed.
@@MrSuccess84that's not how it works. If you lose a key player on your team and find a replacement before may 1st it will affect comp picks. It doesn't matter how you aquire the player. What matters is when.
@@Nick_Gir Go research it today. I would have before trying to correct someone. Players who’ve been cut or traded do not affect the compensatory pick formula. Public knowledge and the framework for how Miami has operated this offseason.
@@Nick_Gir Also, the deadline to sign qualifying players that affect the picks is June 1st.
@@Nick_Gir players cut don't affect comp picks... that's why the Dolphins signed Shaquil Barrett and Jordan Poyer early
I think He and McDaniel were smart enough to discuss / think through the angles you guys put up as issues.
HE'S BEEN THROUGH THE dIVA PHASE OF HIS CAREER AND IT TAKES ALOTT OF ENERGY i'M SURE HE WOULD ADMIT~
Sorry Caps~
Miami looks like a perfect spot for OBJ - on his day he was one of the very best. I hope it goes well.
Tyreek and Waddle take breaks during games to stay fresh . So OBJ will get his touches. 🐬🐬🐬⬆
This was a great move for OBJ. We will be the #3 receiver, covered by the #3 DB. He will have a great year. It will be pick your poison for the defense. They either double #1 or#2 which means that two of the three will have a great chance of getting open. This group will have over 4K yards this season, if Tua stays on the field.
I agree. As a Rams fan he started as the 3rd or 4th WR behind Kupp, Woods, & maybe Jefferson but after Woods' ACL injury & as the playoffs started then OBJ was our main deep threat WR
The top 2 guys went from playing 59% of snaps together in wk1-13 to 16% in wk14-18, and these 2 clowns think there won't be enough snaps for OBJ..lol
I'm surprised they Ravens didn't try to match that offer. They need his help. IMO their playoff loss was due to them a) not running the ball and b) waiting until the 4th quarter to involve OBJ whatsoever
I'm sure it was a different number for different teams situation. These two talk like the most he could make was 3ms and that is flat out speculation and most likely wrong. I'm sure a 1 year 5m deal got thrown out by someone
Am I the only one who watches Florio and thinks, "Why do you care so much about another man's career?!" If I were Odell and his agent, I'd say the same thing.
You can always not watch
@volt91997 And I can always watch and criticize. 😉
@@templehillsfunk who does that?
Love how Rams organization revives careers
I cant believe there arent any WRs that would be a better choice than OBJ. That roster spot is worth more than $3 million.
OBJ needs to realize he's 6 years removed from his last top 10 WR season
Irrelevant on the field for years now. Running purely off his branding
Dolphins don't need him to be a top 10 WR and he signed for 3M I think he knows he isn't a top WR anymore
@@jrmiami4035 I'm referring to the contracts he's been seeking
I love going to Miami for vacation during the winter and early spring seasons. Otherwise, I stay away from that place because of the unbearable heat and humidity. 😂
Ravens brought him in to be a #2 , he proved thoae days are over but as a # 4 option, he's gonna do wonders for miami great locker room guy now and days as well
He's our clear number three and should completely eat!
@@MrSuccess84 I'm sure there is a better option at 3 for you guys
@@oaklandtraphouse He's actually the perfect fit for the offense we run and he fills a need we were missing last year. People don't like the guy and it bleeds into their evaluation of him (or lack thereof). OBJ can still play and the film proves it. He's not prime OBJ but he's still a damn good receiver.
Actually he was their second most targeted player, and second in yardage. So how was he the #4 option?
@luke7834 he was 2nd most targeted because he was all they had to throw to , he was constantly hurt the load was way too heavy for him
Remember when OBJ’s Daddy was online trashing an injured Baker Mayfield? I’d like to hear his opinion on why his son is now barely able to fit on a roster
Barely fit on a roster?
Or, OBJ gets a lot more balls thrown at him because teams are locking down Tyreek and Waddle.
No state income tax in Wyoming either. PFT, broadcasting live from Wamsutter....
Is a south Florida guy, I’d absolutely love to live in Wyoming
Have you considered that signing him after the draft means it cannot be counted against Miami in the compensatory pick calculations.
Come on Florio, this about winning a SB, not about touches! All the touches and yards don’t mean squat if you don’t win a SB! You should be smart enough to realize what they are doing in Miami. Also, it’s a 1 year contract, you either show your stuff or your shown the door.
Why the hell would anyone actually want to live in Miami??? It's humid there. Humid weather absolutely SUCKS.
lol. If you live here you obviously get comfortable with it
Night life my guy. It’s all about the night life. They make air conditioning so it’s the exact same temperature and feel as anywhere else in the world when you’re inside. Which is where most people spend most of their time.
I live in Fla… other coast of Miami… not just hot & humid, but the bugs & mosquitos make staying outside hard… and hurricanes… Irma then Ian slammed us hard and the house next to me, just started rebuilding it almost 2 years later after Ian…
How can I report this video for BS? OBJ chose to sign in Miami. Obviously he’s fine with Tua
Supposedly Kansas City and Buffalo were also interested. QBs more likely to find you down the field instead of 1 read Tua. As for him not getting the attention because of Tyreek and Waddle here is a interesting stat. TD receptions: Waddle 3 Beckham 3. Waddle has a hard time getting in the end zone.
Im a little surprised the Steelers didnt try to get ODBJ with a clear hole at WR but maybe its for the best considering his injury history.
Mike florio is still alive ? How old is this guy …?? 😳
best three WR corp in the league. This offense will roll. great landing spot for OBJ. He’ll get targeted and I think he gets over 600 yds and 6 TDs. He has sure hands, which is a great thing for Tua who is constantly victimized by drops of passes that hit the receiver in the hands. Frustrating! Hope he hits his incentives. Mc Daniel has a habit of feeding players the ball to get their incentive money. OBJ is someone Tua can rely on.
The Bills And The Chiefs Offered Him More
There going to Need more than obj to actually be competitor for the play offs.
I think he and Mcdaniels most likely discussed everything yall said might be problems for him and then agreed to the terms. I think he always knew he’d sign there because if he was gonna sign for $3 mill he could’ve stayed with Baltimore. I think he genuinely likes the fit. I think McDaniels schemes his receivers as wr1s so it’s kinda like whoever gets open is wr1 on that play.
All kinds of receivers want to play with Tua.
Are the Miami Dolphins really going to be limping into the season without two guards and maybe a DL ? Seems suicidal to me at the very least the dolphins need a rg to replace Robert Hunt and probably a DL to replace Wilkins unless tart is enough but they still need two guards and are trying to use backups and last year we had Conner Williams and Robert Hunt and they replaced Hunt with driscal and nobody to replace the injury proned Isaiah Wynn. Are they really that crazy to not replace Wilkins and Hunt or is tart and driscal enough and who replaces Wynn just more and more backups.
Thumbs up for an RS4 👍👍👍
He is ok on the cheap but is more name than substance nowadays. Will he make any real difference?? NO
They can’t complement Tua. They have to say system. There has to be a guy throwing the ball to the . He threw 4700 yds last season. Could have hit 5000, but got pulled in three games because the lead was so big.
@@ccrr8029 also leads the leaugue in passes of 15+ air yards
@@ccrr8029 The Dolphins are not among the leaders in yac yards. Tua is always among the leaders in air yards. Also our line is the second worst in pass block win rate. So there’s that.
Right the 3 games he wS pulled and the games waddle amd hill missed and the games they weren't 100% TUA will hit 5000yrds and 45 TDs this season GO PHINS
@@ccrr8029how is that a fun Stat the truth is your a hater and jealous because TUA is goma get PAID and is our franchise QB so stop hating
@@ccrr8029STOP HATING
What kinda vibes did he bring to the Ravens for 15 million Florio should try something different
We don't have state taxes, that's another reason why he came here😢
Mike missed a Simsium. Warm and Cozy instead of Warm and Fuzzy.
Would be spelled, Simms-ism
What about the Dolphins defense and their personnel?
Have the best DE group in the League,.
Just have to wait a month into the season for them All to be Playing : )
Maybe he doesn't want to be a very top tear wide receiver. He wants to stay in the league and make plenty of money. Being thirty one years old and getting hit all the time, you're not going to last long. I believe he's gonna be in the critical plays.When waddle and Hill are covered and another option in the red zone.
What made Florio go with the Alfa Romeo?
He realized there’s an negative association with Audi drivers being pricks?
Alfa’s look amazing and have that “thing” that makes you tingle, just as long as reliability isn’t high on your list or you just really love having your car at the mechanic?
Or if you are a spare time mechanic and love spending more time fixing your car from the last trip to town, than you spend going to town and back in the car. lol 😂
Cheap doesn’t matter if he can’t get the job done!!
Keenan Allen had 1300 yards and missed 4 games last season
Diggs, Dell, Collins> Hill, Waddle, OBJ
Florio is such a clown. Lol
4:39 who cares if he had any other officers or not he's in Miami that's all that matters who gives a shit about a receipt
OBJ’s time is OVER. Last season should have proved that. I don’t care where OBJ signs bevaue I’m now worried about him.
Does this mean that for two seasons, he averages 9 million?
This acquisition doesn't say much about the value the Phish place on Jaylen Waddle
Please elaborate.
Like, I agree with what Floria's saying a little but, he's making it sound like Odell pushing pension
He's washed up but he was cheap; however, if I was a Fins fan my excitement level would be a 2 out of 10.
What championship pedigree?
Baltimore was the odds on favorite to win it last year and he couldn't help them to get there
They also are a running team. You acting like they are slinging it around every game lol
He helped them win a bunch of games, including a playoff game. All or nothing much?
Let's go Chiefs
this is a game changer !
Championship pedigree? Ty Hill actually has a ring yo. What has Odell ever done but have a highlight catch against the Cowgirls... smh
Um fam, you can delete this shit. OBJ got the same number of rings as Tyreek
@HawgWyldFishing I forgot, he did get one with the Rams. Too bad he got hurt, he was looking like he might have a big game. Still, he's an idiot for not doing everything humanly possible to get to KC. I don't call what he brings to the table "championship pedigree"
Championship pedigree?
Come on, he got lucky to be traded to the Rams and got injured in the SB. He was getting Fed cuz Kupp was on the other side but that was years ago. He is not the same player and Dolphins system and Tua is a much different QB than Stafford in.
He won't get more than 40 targets in Miami unless Hill or Waddle miss games. Tua loves to target Hill who has like 340 targets in 2 years. Tua will force the ball to Hill which led to many of his INts which he was like 4th in the league in INTs. OBJ might start running his mouth if Tua doesn't try to get him the ball because Tua gets rid of the ball in 2.1 second....
YES SIMMS!!! Finally called out Florio again for being a selfish prick and texting and typing on his phone and laptop while his cohost is talking. So selfish. So inconsiderate
Kardashian curse.
Tua is going to be just fine with OBJ you guys said the same thing when Tyreek Hill came to Miami. SMH!!! By the way Tua lead the NFL in PASSING YARDS!!! LOL Steven Ross isnt changing anything for 2025 LMAO!!!
Fins Up
Prima Donna character lacks character when things go south, just like Jalen Ramsey & Tyreek. The Dolphins are a glass house again
I like how you hate the Dolphins but I keep seeing your negative comments all over pages a fan would peruse.
24 minute video, and these two have trouble saying anything positive about the Dolphins organization. It's all about taxes, and cars and blah blah. Whatever.
obj needs to lose weight just like how Ronaldo did to prolong his career.
Red flag in this segment. Out of respect, I won't be specific.
There tone would be so different if he went to the chiefs lol pff just hates the Miami Dolphins
He isn't relevant anymore, & his best wr days are way behind him.
That's why he'll be our #3 wr on the Cheap
Better than Berrios and Cedric Wilson by a mile and CHEAPER : )
F****** love him or hate him but the obj signing to the Dolphins is the f****** steal of the decade... Are you analyst and social media trolls.. obj is an ass to come into the Dolphins and be like he was with the Giants.. facts... But with him compared to Waddle and Tyreek Hill who the f*** you going to cover.. Batman still has juice in the tank a super bowl ring and he is going to light it up this year... Believe me when I tell you everybody can go the whole NFL can go sleep on obj until he bust a 60-yard touchdown.... And if you ask me in the NFL draft this year we got a couple more steals Camaro the defensive end man every team that passed on him just lit a fire under his ass you better watch out for this dude
Wen Beiber?
lol Big Hate
Ahhh no he doesn't
Don't understand why teams still sign him. He'll play eight games.
OBJ makes nigerian scammers look like angels
Still eye balling bruthas money $$
Obj just wanna go on a boat again in Miami he don't care about football anymore
He robbed the ravens last year now he just wants to party.
To be brutal about it. All the 3rd and other slot receivers could not get open or create space. When they did get open; could not catch the ball consistently. Odell can do all three, easily. His skills fit what the Dolphins lack. Two new WR draftees will be on team as slot WRs. Odell does not have to play every down. Most importantly, Odell and new draftees fit Tua skills perfectly. Allows rotations to succeed. Lastly, vets like Barrios now have compettion. Why? Inspired by Tyreek's injuries and mistakes. McDaniel team call out of Hill reflects the necessity of new players who play team ball. Not me ball. Hill will be gone 2025 or next year. Business decision. Table has been set.
Then why are they fixen to restructer hills contract BECAUSE they want to keep him at least for 2025 it don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out
@@gregoryrogers473 Fins did NOT ask Tyreek to restructure this ending season. Telling . First out.This year ending. After June 1 cuts. Tyreek is not trust worthy. Said I love my wife. Wasn't married. Married. Then filed for divorce over no pre-nup. Denied it. Blamed lawyer. Thirty this year. Bye-bye.
@@pauldelray5839 thers talk of them restructuring his contract ther not gona cut him when he puts up almost 2000yrds and 10tds that be insane amd it's also hilarious to even think it lmao
@@gregoryrogers473 Tyreek said last year, will play forever. This year wants to retire as a Fin.Tyreek cannot be trusted. Will not match 1,700 yards. Dolphins have four new slot WRs and a new TE. Plus Odell. Ball will be spread around. RB room stronger. Hill needs to play well. He is auditioning for another team. Hint. Dolphins silent.
He is a has been he hasn't been good for years I can't believe anybody would waste more than 30 seconds talking about him
Mike why so arrogant to Odell chill bro 😎 relax who cares
He has RARELY shown his unlimited skills since his Giants days, maybe his Rams Super Bowl year. I like his skills, but I have never liked his attitude, quite honestly.
His "attitude" is very mild as far as NFL WRs go
Bieber sucked the explosiveness out of him
Tip your hat Odell has made a career out of 1 catch. He'd been either a little above average or terrible his whole career. Take away that one catch and what is he? A barely average WR.
He should be studied in every brand marketing course
The most casual fan ever. LMAO!!
Lamar must be pissed 😅
Probably but for 15m he is not 1WR no more and we need a 1 and a less injury prone one
It’s been a long time since I’ve witnessed this much hating. Just wishing and hoping that the Dolphins suck
I want to hang out with Chris Simms. He seems like a real dude.
The ONE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR,.
The FA STEAL of 2024 : )
Odell’s good days are over.
No i don’t think Tyrek, Waddle, and an old OBJ are the best trio of WRs. The Bengals still have that with Chase, Higgins, and the rookie phenom Jermaine Burton. And they got Mike Giesiki, 2 great rookie TEs and Trenton Irwin, Charlie Jones, and the phenom Andrei Iosivas.
He also brought diddy to the dolphins he already in Miami with the kids!!!!
LMAO, hasn't won anything
“Championship pedigree”??? He brings a left the championship in the second quarter with a knee injury and did not return vibe if you ask me.
He’s getting too old
That's why we signed him CHEAP with incentives,..
$3 mil won't pay his Bills ; )
The Perfect Contract~
Why is Odell going anywhere still a headline? He's going to be a very minor factor for the Dolphins, but we'll see.
Simms knows that WE KNOW he just makes ish up...doesn't he?
I think Mike is very very prejudice when it comes to black athletes making money. I feel like he talks more about this off-season than he does during the season and this year is no black quarterbacks in him to talk bad about and this is crazy. I watch this show consistently for three years and it's like I don't hear him. Talk about Daniel Jones the way he talk about black athletes and is crazy and I only only one that feels this way.
no he doesn’t, he sucks
When you went over his film from the last two stops, you came away thinking he can't separate anymore?
Championship pedigree? 😂🤣
NO FUC’N WAY THATS BETTER THAN DJ MOORE, KEENAN ALLEN AND ROME ODUNZE AT ALLLLLLLL!!!!! THATS 3 #1 WR’S OBJ IS A #3 WR AT BEST NOW SO YEAHHHHHHHH DISAGREE WITH THEM BEING A BETTER BIG 3 THAN THE BEARS BIG 3!!!!!! 👎🏾😂😂😂😂
Tyreek is better than DJ Moore
Waddle is better than Keenan Allen
Rome Odunze is an unproven rookie.
Turn off the caps lock, and take a beat to think it over.
your caps lock is broken
@@chrism6880waddle is not better than Keenan Allen lmao
@@nrg6245 he is, and it's not close.
@@nrg6245Keenan Allen is an excellent player and has had incredible longevity, but all 32 NFL teams would take Jaylen Waddle over him. People seem to forget Jaylen Waddle is really good for some reason.