How I Add Refrigerant to an Air Conditioner

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • Hey HVAC techs! Since so many other CZcams techs show you how to add refrigerant to an air conditioning system, in this video I thought I'd show you how I add refrigerant to an AC.
    I wanted to expand on our recent AC troubleshooting series by going into each part of its sequence of operations. This week, we're going to talk about how I add refrigerant to an A/C system. How do you get to the point where the air coming out of the registers isn't cold? You need to add Freon R-22 or Puron R410 refrigerant to your air conditioning system if the temperature difference between the return air and the supply air coming out of the registers is low. We want this temperature split to be betwen 18 and 22 degrees. Ideally a 20 degree split would be perfect. But to get there you'll need to add refrigerant by using refrigerant gauges and a digital scale in order to put in the right amount.
    Watch this video to get a better grasp on recharging your hvac system and get your subcooling to the right level. Charge the 410a or r22 refrigerent the right way, and you wont be in the situation where you AC doesn't cool enough. Because if your air conditioner is not cooling, it can be tough to stay comfortable on a hot summer day. I hope you get something out of this video.
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  • @Lionscall111
    @Lionscall111 Před 3 lety +38

    This should not be try it at home without supervision if you don’t know what you’re doing you can have a serious accident and burn yourself. Refrigerant is no joke and nothing to play around with. Sorry that’s the truth this is one thing you don’t want to make a mistake with.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +3

      Very true!

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +3

      Just pinned this message to the top so everyone can see it.

    • @hornet224
      @hornet224 Před rokem +3

      It's OK to handle Freon for your car or truck, but not for your home A/C?

    • @thetruth7839
      @thetruth7839 Před rokem

      Not if it was never adjusted properly when installed

    • @original2858
      @original2858 Před rokem

      I need to add Freon. I have an inside unit in my basement. I finally was able to use my unit for first time and after three days it was frozen. It got colder for a couple days so I let it melt. My landlord said it might need Freon. There’s duct tape around unit that’s falling off. So I’m going to change filter and reapply duct tape around. See if that works first. If not, then I’ll have to call someone. What’s an estimate for Freon ? I’m a woman and no nothing about units. Only basics

  • @scrambler350
    @scrambler350 Před 3 lety +8

    As a tech that learned everything either out in the field or on CZcams when I started, I distinctly remember when things finally snapped and became clear in my head when it came to refrigerant - from then on I always referred to the charge(especially the suction side) in terms of TEMPERATURE - not PRESSURE when communicating an issue to someone else or while figuring out the issue.
    Trained a few other guys at the first company I worked for and would always try to get them to think in the same terms (Blue gauge TEMP, Red gauge Pressure) - it makes understanding Superheat and Subcooling (and what it means in the system that much easier).

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety

      Great info! Good to hear others doing the same! I have an experienced refrigeration guy who only wants to talk pressures when he's talking to others. everyone's different but can't bag on him since he's such a good tech. Thanks again

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před 3 lety +8

    I don't do residential HVAC but in managing my own automotive HVAC I learned one thing. Well, a few but this one too. If I think the system may be under charged ALWAYS leak check the service ports BEFORE touching them with ANY tools or equipment. You will not find a leaking schrader valve with gauges attached and you will not have a definitive diagnosis if the reseating that takes place "fixes" the problem. Thank you for doing what you do here on CZcams.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for your input 😊

    • @Froggability
      @Froggability Před 3 lety +1

      Hallelujah, speaking my language, it shocks me that every single hvac channel does not mention this critical juncture

    • @travischaddock4826
      @travischaddock4826 Před rokem

      This is a good first step. When I get a no ac call it's the first thing I check. Check for power, check for leaks at valves. I'd say 20% of the time in the last 4 months I has been one of the valves.

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před rokem

      @@travischaddock4826 And how often did the valve leak because some numbnut didn't tighten or even bother to reinstall the caps and it got dirt and corrosion in the port? It never leaked before untill YOU went and stuck your tool in it and let all the crap into the seal. Some people automatically change out the valves whenever they are going to enter or have entered a system.

  • @PenaR85
    @PenaR85 Před 3 lety +1

    Going into my second summer and really am understanding these systems is becoming increasingly easier to understand. Really appreciate the video for folks like me.

  • @THETIMINATORTHETOOLMAN
    @THETIMINATORTHETOOLMAN Před 2 lety +1

    Great video
    I am a 54 year old maintenance tech and also do and still learning HVAC. Your videos are very informative

  • @chancecooper4006
    @chancecooper4006 Před 3 lety +3

    Greg, you have killed it as a small business owner. Most of you guys put out alot of great stuff on HVAC technical stuff. That's awesome. I would LOVE to hear more about the actual building of the business and growing it. Thats very inspiring!!!
    Keep doing great things brother!
    Chance from Myrtle Beach SC

  • @armandprovost384
    @armandprovost384 Před rokem +1

    New HVAC/R Tech in the game and this is the best I've seen it broken down for me. Thank you.

  • @BlackheartCharlie
    @BlackheartCharlie Před rokem +2

    Thanks for making this video - best one I've seen on how to properly add refrigerant to a system. Helped me to top off my boat's A/C unit.
    Best regards from Key West,
    Capt. Blackheart Charlie

  • @luvmechanix
    @luvmechanix Před 3 lety +1

    I'm just a guy who fixes his own stuff but you taught me a lot thanks

  • @automatedcomment
    @automatedcomment Před 3 lety +6

    I took out all the freons from my unit, then I added propane. System is way colder I would say. Thanks for showing me how to do this and what tools to buy on craigslist

  • @AmateurSuperFan
    @AmateurSuperFan Před 3 lety +3

    i literally didnt understand a single part of this video, but something about listening to a guy who knows what he's talking about with visuals is so awesome

  • @watermanone7567
    @watermanone7567 Před 3 lety +3

    Very nice explanation, thanks for the video.

  • @ronhudson1161
    @ronhudson1161 Před 3 lety +2

    Great explanation. Thank you

  • @scotttimmins5297
    @scotttimmins5297 Před 3 lety +6

    The first conversation you should be having with a customer once you determine the system is low on charge, is finding and repairing the leak.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +1

      for sure. hard to keep my videos short enough though. plus I already did a video on "how to handle a refrigerant leak". Let me know what you think of it!

  • @jovelitoola9322
    @jovelitoola9322 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice.. and clear explanation.. thanks much😊

  • @zesty2023
    @zesty2023 Před 3 lety +4

    Very well explained sir.

  • @Saulgr
    @Saulgr Před 3 lety

    Thank you sir, very informative and great explained

  • @jfdesignsinc.innovationsid1583

    Your the man. Thank you for the knowledge

  • @johnwalker890
    @johnwalker890 Před 3 lety +1

    You did a good job explaining why and how to properly charge a system by temperatures instead of gauges, and really sounded like you know what you are talking about and seems like you went to trade school or learned off a educated teacher (instructor).

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +1

      I appreciate that. I actually learned all this in the field, as I started this trade from scratch as a helper and worked my way up. Thanks for the comment. I really appreciate it

  • @DreamLand20
    @DreamLand20 Před 2 lety

    Was very useful. Thanks a lot

  • @jessiegodinez1544
    @jessiegodinez1544 Před rokem +1

    Great video more videos im trying to make my own ac company

  • @wasimedoo1506
    @wasimedoo1506 Před 3 lety

    Very good nice information thanks

  • @The.Lone.Wolf.
    @The.Lone.Wolf. Před 3 lety +1

    This company is awesome, very great info

  • @andygalindo8978
    @andygalindo8978 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @chadsmith8561
    @chadsmith8561 Před rokem

    fantastic explanation. Do you have a video that talks specifically about subcooling?

  • @raymondhui2598
    @raymondhui2598 Před 3 lety

    thank you very much!

  • @JasonEmery9
    @JasonEmery9 Před 2 lety

    Very informative. I have a somewhat different situation. A friend bought an abandoned building, and will soon tear it down and build a new one. I can take whatever I want before the demolition, such as the AC and furnace components. I believe the AC has not been turned on for over five years.
    Is my first step to check the high and low side pressures at the compressor? If there is decent pressure at the compressor, would it make sense to try to get the AC running in the building? Or would it be better to disassemble everything and check the components individually, prior to reassembly at the garage I'm building? If there is pressure in the system, is there an easy way to capture the freon and reuse it at my new location?

  • @afghvacr
    @afghvacr Před 2 lety

    Thank you...

  • @jerrylockhart3069
    @jerrylockhart3069 Před rokem +1

    This is a course with perfect airflow that’s not a high static duct work situation. This is also with a perfectly clean filter and a perfectly clean coils and the appropriate size line set. Not to mention perfectly good capacitor as well as contactor outside can also affect the refrigerator. All these need to be done before you start adding refrigerant unless you know that system and are you just checked it all.

  • @mikezeh2859
    @mikezeh2859 Před rokem +1

    I am glad that you mentioned to add liquid refrigerant a little at a time, because here's what nobody mentioned is: when you add to much liquid Freon at one time, the chances are , that it will carry some of the compressor oil with it it and it will take a while to equalize again.

  • @jassvirk4228
    @jassvirk4228 Před 3 lety +1

    great information about charging,
    before charge i would try find leak first, open evap coil panel, look in drain pan for any trace of oil, most of the time thats where it leaks, if its is leaking, most coils have 10 year warranty, get it done when its under warranty.

  • @d.e.brenner2930
    @d.e.brenner2930 Před měsícem

    thanks

  • @reliableservice3886
    @reliableservice3886 Před rokem +2

    When I teach about gauges and pt I try to get them to use temps instead of pressure it is the best way to simplify

  • @wardtp1
    @wardtp1 Před 2 lety

    How do you treat a system with an "R410-Flo-rater" metering device (Aspen DX-treme C-Series)? Like a piston or a TXV?

  • @davidandalexflores2644

    Would this apply to R22 although focusing on the green temp ring?

  • @RiceRiceBaby54
    @RiceRiceBaby54 Před 3 lety +1

    Great videos for new techs. Wish I worked for you when I was a new guy, I think my life would’ve been a bit easier, great leadership my friend!

  • @sajjadawan8691
    @sajjadawan8691 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks very informative but one question @start if you are talking about td or approach temperature it shouldn't be return air temp ‐32 or 35 = coil temp

  • @mark.r8900
    @mark.r8900 Před rokem

    Hi, my r410a with txv unit. The suction saturation temp is about 33F and suction line temp is 48F giving 15F of superheat. But why is my liquid line saturation temp is 97 and my liquid line temp is also 97. I tried adding some refrigerant but nothing changes. This is a high velocity system air handler with a slab coil. I think my suction saturation temp is also too low. Both coils are clean and txv valve is new. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

  • @HappyLife-vh2ey
    @HappyLife-vh2ey Před 7 měsíci

    What do you think of replacing txv with a piston ?

  • @amtrakusa1
    @amtrakusa1 Před 5 dny

    I'll just add to be sure both sets of coils are clean with a new filter installed before moving forward with anything else.

  • @amohvac27
    @amohvac27 Před 3 lety +4

    This better be good 😄

  • @williamkanipe9073
    @williamkanipe9073 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for the video! One question... Wouldn't you want to find out where the leak is? 5 lbs. is a substantial leak, I would think you would be back there soon.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety

      for sure. hard to keep my videos short enough though. plus I already did a video on "how to handle a refrigerant leak". Let me know what you think of it!

  • @garyoconnordbaairrepair7775

    I have a set of test gauges. That way I do not automatically take too much from the system. With test gauges I take minimal refrigerant from a system.

  • @TitaniumZX
    @TitaniumZX Před 3 lety

    Good info...thanks!

  • @peenopiani7209
    @peenopiani7209 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi dear sir:im really complicated about charging liquid to suction line,for example 2 lb liquid refrigrant to suction line dosnt damage the comppresor? As ive been thought that liquid will damage comppressor in suction line and the reason that we sgould have sh at suction line is that to prevent liquid gas return to compresor.please explain.yours sincerly :peeno

  • @robertkattner1997
    @robertkattner1997 Před 2 lety +5

    You never have to add refrigerant unless there is a leak. First find the leak, repair, then add refrigerant.

  • @manintoynenam
    @manintoynenam Před 2 lety

    How much do u charge per lb of freon. Let me compare to beutler and bonney.

  • @teknisibdg-mohdraziqaufa9519

    please,when exactly we need to chage or add refrigerant?,,and what is the standard?

  • @mamumonkan
    @mamumonkan Před rokem +2

    Great video Fox !!! How would you charge up a system that does not let the compressor come on because of the Low Pressure Switch preventing the contactor to close ? ( would you use vapor first as to not to hit the compressor and fill it just enough for the compressor to come on or would you fill with liquid right away ??? ) Thank you so much for taking your time and trying to answer my question !!!

    • @humphreydchen
      @humphreydchen Před 11 měsíci

      what did you end up doing? I ask since thought vapor shouldn't be separated out. I have the same situation happening currently since I can't get my Dave Lennox XC21 edition compressor to turn on even though it is calling since the low pressure switch is preventing it.

    • @mamumonkan
      @mamumonkan Před 11 měsíci

      @@humphreydchen sorry to hear man! And also sorry that I don't have a solution for you - I just left the whole thing for now while suffering Miami temperatures every day

    • @mamumonkan
      @mamumonkan Před 10 měsíci

      @@humphreydchen after calling 4 AC guys in the past 11 months I now found one (through a friend) that did not try to extort thousands of dollars and actually fixed my AC ... I can not tell you how I feel ( my 4.5T TRANE was basically empty needed 11lb of 410A) and everything I diagnosed as in perfect working order - did not check out/work at all when he checked it - so he checked for leaks with nitrogen,filled the system,rigged the control board inside the air handler, fitted a new contactor and it works now ) so don't give up : good things come to those who wait, even in 108ºF ( pun fully intended )

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew Před 10 měsíci

      @@mamumonkan I am confused by your description. What did you think was wrong and what was actually wrong according to the technician?

  • @arzhangsadeghi
    @arzhangsadeghi Před 3 lety

    Hi
    I have one of these Micro DC Air Conditioner Kit, DC 12V 450W R134A Refrigerant . how can I Add Refrigerant to it please???

  • @Eluderatnight
    @Eluderatnight Před 2 lety +1

    Seems like some schools say add liquid, some vapor. I have seen both work and understand the phase change is the magic. What is your thinking in liquid over vapor?

    • @pokerpleb4707
      @pokerpleb4707 Před 2 lety +1

      add as a liquid 400 series refrigerants like 410A are a blend, when its a gas some of it separates and you may add more of a certain part of it, scroll compressors can take a small little bit of liquid

  • @Mustang7995
    @Mustang7995 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Can you tell me why you turn the 410A upsidedown? I hear you are to keep the R22 right side up. Does feeding liquid shock the compressor when you turn 410A upside down?

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +1

      No it's just the way you're supposed to charge a blended refrigerant like 410. I actually just turn 22 upside down too. Scroll compressors are much lore resilient to liquid refrigerant than recip or piston compressors of the past.

    • @Mustang7995
      @Mustang7995 Před 3 lety

      @@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 thanks, that makes sense,one more question, is there any other blended refrigerant out there like the new one that replaces R22 or the new one that will replace 410a? Thanks.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Mustang7995 we use 407c for R22. But we remove existing R22 before doing so. As for 410a no one is using any alt. refrigerant for it as far as I know.

    • @FatManDoubleZero
      @FatManDoubleZero Před 2 lety

      @@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 As of January, 2022, COMSTAR has perfected a "DROP IN REPLACEMENT" FOR R-410-A. This new "blended refrigerant" is called RS-53 (or R-470A). It's supposed to allow existing 410-A air conditioning systems to operate to factory specifications without any "modifications." All of the old R-410-A refrigerant needs to be removed from an existing system, and the NEW refrigerant (R-470-A) added back in. The GWP of this new product is more than 50 percent less than the GWP of R-410-A. This should satisfy the EPA, but who knows what our politicians in congress will allow. If this new product is successful, all of the HVAC equipment manufacturers can continue to make and distribute the same equipment for many more years into the future!!

  • @davntelisha19
    @davntelisha19 Před 2 lety

    Can I add freon using one hose

  • @adamspears3819
    @adamspears3819 Před 3 lety +3

    & if the liquid line temperature (make sure the sun or your hand, or other heat source is not warming the area where your temp probe is mounted) is cooler than the outside ambient temp, then suspect a restriction up stream for that measured spot of the liquid line....i.e. a liquid line filter drier.
    Take a Delta-T across a liquid line filter drier, if it happens to be located up stream from the measured spot of the liquid line.
    If there is a temp drop of (I think) more than 3 degrees, I have been told that the liquid line filter drier is the source of the restriction, & would need to be replaced with a new one.

  • @StevenSchoolAlchemy
    @StevenSchoolAlchemy Před 9 měsíci

    to the point!

  • @hughramirez7463
    @hughramirez7463 Před rokem

    The further the distance between both units dictates the amount of time for a full cycle. A system that is charged will feel beer can cold. Always use your gauges and get valve extensions with cut off. Then you can bleed most of the refrigerant back onto the system before disconnecting.

  • @bettershooter
    @bettershooter Před 2 lety +3

    Hi, boss, why not use digital gauge which can give you either superheat or subcool right away, easier & faster.
    (One more thing, I think R-410A is a blended refrigerant, it can only be added as liquid in suction side, you'd better mention it to use a nuzzle or throttling method.)

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před rokem

      Not needed, his gauge works...all he has to do is add 10 to the cold side and if it matches the hot he is done. I can deduct that equation faster than clamping on the sub cool wire.

  • @danieldelano9892
    @danieldelano9892 Před 3 lety +2

    You have to start this trade young and as a helper and work your way up..

  • @user-cs1yn9qt5u
    @user-cs1yn9qt5u Před 4 měsíci

    good mr fox..

  • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696

    I hope you are able to take something away from this video. Let me know what you think of it below. I'd really be interested in hearing your opinion.

    • @MrBen527
      @MrBen527 Před 3 lety

      It's a very good video. If only most techs would follow it.

  • @AACoolAir
    @AACoolAir Před rokem +1

    Do you need to bleed the suction and liquid hose?

  • @m.konwin8372
    @m.konwin8372 Před 3 lety +1

    What about piston charging? Subcool is for txv only.

    • @zesty2023
      @zesty2023 Před 3 lety +1

      will need a different video for dat.

  • @mark.r8900
    @mark.r8900 Před 2 lety

    With the system off and liquid line and suction line service valves closed. Is it ok to add liquid r410a into the high side? Thanks

  • @steve0826
    @steve0826 Před 2 lety +2

    Hello Fox Family, a question, when adding refrigerant, how do I know my refrigerant tank is empty? By looking at the small rounded window on the manifold?

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 2 lety

      A scale will tell you that info. But if you shake the tank side to side (don't go overboard!) you will feel the liquid refrigerant inside. A tank starts out around 25 to 30 lbs. The tank itself weighs just a few at the most. This should give you good info.

    • @steve0826
      @steve0826 Před 2 lety +1

      @@foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696 , Thank you! I am using the tank from few years ago. I cannot find "tare weight" info on the tank.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před rokem

      One day when a tank is empty...weigh it. Remember that weight and the next tank you are using needs to weigh more or its empty.

  • @nazarbarabash6381
    @nazarbarabash6381 Před 2 lety

    Can you help me with following math?
    * AC unit on the attic, ducts insulated.
    * R410A,
    * out door temp - 93f,
    * low(blue) pressure/temp - 160psi/55f,
    * high(red) pressure/temp - 340psi/105f,
    * return pipe temp - 100-105f.
    * (out side temp) - (high(red) temp) = 12f what is less than expected 15f.
    * (high(red) temp) - (return pipe temp) = 0f (sometimes 5f) what is less than expected 10f.
    * (supply temp) - (the nearest cooling grill temp) = 7f up to 10f what is at least 9f less than expected.
    Note: AC documents/labels do not have any suggestion regarding subcooling (Goodman GSX130301B*)
    Math with 15f difference between outside temp vs (high(red) temp) and 10f difference between (high(red) temp) vs return pipe temp does not work here. I have 12f (very close) and 5 to 0f (big difference).
    Questions:
    1. did I get it right the system needs charging to hit 115F on (high(red) temp) gauge, so there is 10f difference with return pipe temp?
    2. To hit 115f on gauge I need to add 40PSI. What is approximately amount of refrigerant I need? if I buy 5 lb would it be enough or should I buy 10 lb to be safe?

  • @davidtodora6173
    @davidtodora6173 Před 2 lety

    Almost new unit in our second home. Heat works. A/C blows good, but no cool air. I think it’s needing Freon. Not sure. I’ve heard you can do it yourself. Any tips? Thanks’

    • @flavorman9159
      @flavorman9159 Před 2 lety +3

      You can’t do it yourself (legally) unless you are licensed. If it a newer unit and it’s Low on refrigerant, theres a leak that needs fixing. You can’t buy refrigerant without a license.

    • @flavorman9159
      @flavorman9159 Před 2 lety +2

      So... call an ac repair tech because you probably don’t even have the right tools

    • @tonymiller6255
      @tonymiller6255 Před 2 lety +11

      Um I bought r22 without a license and charged my sysyem my self with correct subcool and superheat...... So yeah. You can buy refrigerant without a license and charge your system correctly as long as you have a normal functioning brain.....🤙🤙🤙

    • @kiteboarderx
      @kiteboarderx Před 2 lety +1

      Check the label on your A/C. It probably takes R410a refrigerant which you can buy on Ebay but that said a nearly new unit shouldn't be low on refrigerant unless it has a leak. It might be better to call an AC tech in that case.

    • @boywhohadatiger
      @boywhohadatiger Před 2 lety

      @@tonymiller6255 that’s an illegal purchase you need a EPA for r22 because it contains chlorine and is ozone depleting only refrigerant you can buy without a epa is 134a

  • @felipesolanet7469
    @felipesolanet7469 Před 2 lety

    Are you adding liquid refrigerant into the suction line? You placed the tank upside down. I thought we want vapor to go into the compressor.

    • @nunyabusiness6746
      @nunyabusiness6746 Před 2 lety +2

      Never charge vapor with a blend like R410A, you will compromise the blend as the different refrigerants evaporate at different temperatures, in fact, I have never seen anyone comment on this but I always make a habit of shaking the cylinder to mix everything up before charging.

    • @pokerpleb4707
      @pokerpleb4707 Před 2 lety

      compressors in residential can handle small amount of liquid, open the suction valve on your gauge a little bit as you add, creates some flash gas, like how a fixed orfice metering device works

  • @walou3917
    @walou3917 Před 3 lety

    Is going to hvac school worth it or should i try to find some apprenticeship program?

    • @paulsmith7717
      @paulsmith7717 Před 3 lety

      How old are you? If you are young and or can afford it go to school. It will pay off in the end. Also make sure you in your state that going to a trade school is not a requirement for apprenticeship or journeyman. You will have a easier time getting the jobs you want.

    • @danieldelano9892
      @danieldelano9892 Před 3 lety +3

      You should find a apprenticeship program with a hvac company, they need new hvac techs. Going to school won’t help you if you’ve never laid your hands on a hvac unit.

  • @Davidsavage8008
    @Davidsavage8008 Před 3 lety +1

    This guy just got out of school you can TELL.

  • @user-ik4br3nk2w
    @user-ik4br3nk2w Před 3 lety +2

    125 PSIG on the low side?
    But the data plate on my condenser says 410A PSIG LOW: 236 HIGH: 446

    • @andreeriner811
      @andreeriner811 Před 3 lety +2

      What your looking at is test pressures I believe. That can confuse you.

    • @tonya.2645
      @tonya.2645 Před 3 lety +1

      My 2015 410a Lennox systems show no subcool on the plate. They show 236 low, 446 High. Low was 75 PSI and bedroom vent to bedroom ceilings Diff was 10F deg. Added 410a refrigerant slowly while running bringing low up to just over 100 PSI and High just under 300PSI. We keep Thermostat at 76F. Bedroom vent to ceiling diff is now 20-22F, two floors down from system in attic. Is this ok or overcharged? Or, can it do even better if I bring low up to 125PSI?
      Also, Do better SEERs result in larger vent to ceiling diffs or same but work more efficiently?
      Did not touch my 3rd AC for 1st floor which runs great with a new A-coil last year. It runs at 125 PSI low and about 325 Hi.
      I assume different tonnage units use the same pressures given its never mentioned in tutorials.
      Please excuse my HVAC newbie homeowner questions. Thank you.

  • @connorduffy8620
    @connorduffy8620 Před 2 lety +1

    How much should a compressor replacement cost??

    • @amtrakusa1
      @amtrakusa1 Před 5 dny +1

      I paid $1400 for a Trane scroll compressor and $1200 for labor. The teck knew exactly how to do it. $2600 vs $15,000 was a no brainer for me.

    • @connorduffy8620
      @connorduffy8620 Před 4 dny

      @@amtrakusa1 dude thanks for responding much appreciated

  • @HelnoIaint
    @HelnoIaint Před 2 lety +1

    You didn’t to purge the manifold and suction line

  • @fredware1324
    @fredware1324 Před rokem +4

    First of all I want to say I’ve only listened to half this video. The first half has huge gaps in no sound. Next I want to say everybody’s going about this the hard way. 410a is a blend of three separate gases. If one of these gases leaks out from the system everything that’s in The system is suspect. The best way to recharge a system is to see first of all if you can find a leak. If there is no obvious leaks the next thing you should do is to change the valve cores on the access ports. The next thing you should do is evacuate all the refrigerant that is in the system. Read the data on the nameplate data and find out how many ounces or pounds and ounces your unit takes to operate efficiently. A digital scale is needed to put the proper charge in the system with “ The bottle turned upside down so that the shut off valve is on the bottom”. The refrigerant bottle should be upside down on your Digital scale. If you have evacuated the system, you should then put The liquid in the high side first. Once the system is equalized, you may now turn on The system so that it runs. Slowly put the liquid into the suction side. If you put it in too fast, it will wash away the oil in the compressor and cause compressor failure. Once you have the measured amount call for on the nameplate data in the system, check for proper pressures on the gauges and temperatures. You are checking for the return air temperature and the supply air temperature for the inside ( approximately 20 to 30° difference). For the outside, you are checking outdoor temperature versus exhaust temperature of the fan on the condensing unit. This should take care of your cooling problem. However, this is only if you have a small leak in the system somewhere. You could still have a metering device problem or other problems with the system. As in someone else’s post, the only way you can buy this refrigerant is if you hold an EPA certification. This is something that is not normally held by the homeowner. Unfortunately, the best way to fix your problem is to call a technician. I say unfortunately because you’re going to have to bite the bullet and pay the trained individual to fix your unit. This really is not a homeowner fix.

    • @fredware1324
      @fredware1324 Před rokem

      I didn’t go into great detail because this is for the trained technician. I will say this about leaks, small leaks are usually noted by oily patches on the coil or oily patches on the copper lines. You will usually need an OXY acetylene torch set to fix these kinds of problems. That is why I suggest a trained technician.

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew Před 10 měsíci +1

      As a self-professed expert, it would be expected for you to know that 410a has 2 gases, not 3. 50/50 blend of r32 and r125. A discerning reader would use this observation when judging the reliability of the rest of the write up.

  • @Davidsavage8008
    @Davidsavage8008 Před 3 lety

    Never add R check for supply air return air temps. If less that 21 degree split after 20 minutes check the entering air to outdoor coil temp entering air in shade. If liquid line temp is lower on liquid line than shaded entering shaded coil temp your low on R.
    If to high on liquid line than O.D. entering air (shaded) temp more than 11 degrees it's slightly over charged.

  • @magnito9811
    @magnito9811 Před rokem

    is he adding liquid to the low side?

    • @Dan-ej9iu
      @Dan-ej9iu Před rokem

      Yes with 410 you have to but feed it slow to fast will push the oil out

  • @phantom2226
    @phantom2226 Před 3 lety

    Where can I buy the fe on. I did not have the HVAC license.Thank you

    • @JC-hp3cx
      @JC-hp3cx Před 3 lety +1

      shop.chillercity.com they will give you

    • @JC-hp3cx
      @JC-hp3cx Před 3 lety

      Bay Area

    • @enlightenthis3749
      @enlightenthis3749 Před 3 lety +2

      Freon is a trade name.
      Correct term is refrigerant

  • @juanmacias4854
    @juanmacias4854 Před rokem +2

    adding refringent isn't the problem, low side of course but buying is. The main focus should be identifying the leak and then adding the Freon.

    • @leopoldbuttersstotch6060
      @leopoldbuttersstotch6060 Před rokem

      where can I buy the refrigerant? I have a portable ac unit that uses r32 coolant

    • @juanmacias4854
      @juanmacias4854 Před rokem +2

      @@leopoldbuttersstotch6060 depends on the Freon that you need, but most require a license - that’s how they screw you.

    • @LBizKid04
      @LBizKid04 Před rokem

      @@juanmacias4854 yep

  • @azzasaadi9139
    @azzasaadi9139 Před 3 lety +1

    Adding réfrigérant as a liquid might damage thé compressor i think

  • @mikescott8050
    @mikescott8050 Před 3 lety +1

    410A is a blend refrigerant if 5 pounds leaked out you cant just add 5 pounds and expect it to work properly.

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +5

      Hmm. Assuming you were to take care of the leak or vacuum , I would say adding those 5 lbs back would take care of it.

    • @nhmike6890
      @nhmike6890 Před 3 lety

      It’s not that critical

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před rokem

      If 5 lbs of a blend leaks out why wouldn't adding 5 lbs of a blend work properly?

  • @barbaracollins667
    @barbaracollins667 Před 3 lety +17

    Remember, if you have to add freon, you have a leak somewhere.

    • @raymondreyes9901
      @raymondreyes9901 Před 3 lety +1

      This can be checking charge from new construction start up. This all depends on how far the line sets are.

    • @anthonyburrus2522
      @anthonyburrus2522 Před 3 lety

      Learned that this week

    • @f1reguy587
      @f1reguy587 Před 3 lety

      Finally someone said this...

    • @Ghostsamuari25
      @Ghostsamuari25 Před 3 lety +3

      Can be so slow a leak in my case a top of every few years and she keeps us comfy cool all summer long. 10 yrs now. Added 7lbs

    • @denzelwilliams6019
      @denzelwilliams6019 Před rokem +1

      Not always, it can also come from when techs out there guages on and off. Doing that over time you're losing refrigerant as well.

  • @bigmac375
    @bigmac375 Před rokem +2

    it only cost me $200 for a guy to come out for a couple hours and diagnose everything and fill the unit. just pay the guy with experience this high pressure stuff aint like fixing a sink drain.

  • @enlightenthis3749
    @enlightenthis3749 Před 3 lety +1

    1st thing everyone thinks, my system needs charged.
    Unless a leak exists and system was not probably charged during install, it should not be low on gas- refrigerant, freon is a trade name for dupont r-12.
    I will not be watching to the end, I assume you discuss bleeding has from the high side hose after disconnect.
    If not every time someone connects and disconnects you lose several oz.of refrigerant.
    Forget the rest, call the best

  • @yeungvincent3977
    @yeungvincent3977 Před rokem

    why you add Refrigerant using the high pressure side? @6:37 it is dangerous

    • @Dan-ej9iu
      @Dan-ej9iu Před rokem

      It's ok to add on high side if it's empty . With the unit not running. for few pounds then go to low side for the rest of it,but feed it just little at a time

  • @MikeSmith-nu9wt
    @MikeSmith-nu9wt Před 2 lety

    It's 2 am and it sounds like a water fall in my ac closet , low on freon again , non of the local ax companies can fix the leak , spent enough to replace it now , had them redo the drain also , they didn't get that right either ..guess I gotta do it myself , after spending thousands to have local professionals do it ..what a joke ..got my macs license, bought my own gauges , bought some freon , got the multimeter that does Temps and such , still don't have a scale , but at 2 am ...priceless ..fixed it in 14 minutes for now ...now where is that leak , dam Sulphur water ate the new air handler (everything is right by the bathroom door that we shower in ) is what there telling me ????

  • @danpan4425
    @danpan4425 Před 2 lety

    Just replace the TXV 😜

  • @William5394
    @William5394 Před 3 lety

    5:30 adding in the liquid form would cause more stress to the compressor from my experience. I believe the gas form would be better (not upside down).

  • @reggiepalmer6157
    @reggiepalmer6157 Před 2 lety +1

    A guy came out today to charge our system with refrigerant and he said possibly there was a stuck valve inside because he couldn't get the unit to take any refrigerant but he seems like a total f****** dork can this be true do I need to have a tech come out and look at the valve on the inside of the house

  • @snakeclaw
    @snakeclaw Před 3 lety

    I have a friend who is a licensed mechanical engineer in hvac systems and she says the ONLY proper way to add refrigerant is to pump the system down and add new refrigerant into the vacuumed lines. Is she wrong?

  • @tkw79
    @tkw79 Před 2 lety

    Try an average 120 degree day…

  • @thomasgarrity2226
    @thomasgarrity2226 Před 9 měsíci

    I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INSTRUCTION HOW TO FILL- ARE YOU TEACHING A CLASS?

  • @abcdefghi2175
    @abcdefghi2175 Před 3 lety +5

    leaks in systems means more money in my pocket dont add gas if you know its going to leak right back out TELL customer the only way to fix it is to fix it right!!!! FIX LEAK!! FIRST THEN ADD GAS

    • @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696
      @foxfamilyheatingandaircond4696  Před 3 lety +1

      for sure. hard to keep my videos short enough though. plus I already did a video on "how to handle a refrigerant leak". Let me know what you think of it!

  • @enlightenthis3749
    @enlightenthis3749 Před 3 lety +1

    1..you get E.P.A. certified

  • @beentheredonethat7572

    IMO you should be addressing the leak instead of topping off the system & you shouldn't be showing people how to top off a system. I have no issues explaining HVAC but you absolutely should not be doing any of this without proper supervision & or training

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před rokem +1

      Assuming the leak was fixed just prior to this video.

  • @tarasg3993
    @tarasg3993 Před rokem +2

    Dude you not talking to the lawyer. What’s with all of the disclaimers? Just make it short

  • @hunghua2012
    @hunghua2012 Před rokem +4

    Hey Dude, you can talk all day long. No once can learn anything from you.
    Make it short please 😮

    • @yodamanrulz176
      @yodamanrulz176 Před 10 měsíci

      Impatience is not a virtue…😂

    • @lisachristy170
      @lisachristy170 Před 10 měsíci +2

      The video is made as a refresher for people in the field with HVAC technical training. Greg Fox says that in the course of the video. You apparently have no such training under your belt, nor were you paying close enough attention to hear Greg state who the audience should be. Rather than criticizing him for his expertise, shouldn't you be looking for a video that's simple enough for you to understand? Or, better, yet, maybe you should hire someone to do this work for you... yes?

  • @dvoog817
    @dvoog817 Před 3 lety +3

    Piston? TXV? EEV? There’s so many things you’re glossing over. I’d assume being a company based in California, you’re selling mid to upper end systems, which would most likely have TXVs. Sub cooling is the value you’re looking for. Not superheat. If you’re a tech watching CZcams videos to learn how to do your job, you should probably find another line of work. Maybe flipping burgers or something.

    • @mikem5475
      @mikem5475 Před 3 lety +2

      So many assumptions from you, clown

    • @foxplaysroblox2866
      @foxplaysroblox2866 Před 3 lety +1

      Even on TXVs you should always check superheat. The TXV is designed to maintain a superheat range. Charge by subcooling and check to make sure the TXV is working probably by checking superheat

    • @jidsigler
      @jidsigler Před 2 lety

      Meh, I'd say going off of pressures is good enough for the diy guy. Too difficult to distinguish between piston and txv metering devices.

  • @yurdme4015
    @yurdme4015 Před rokem

    Follow the 10 commandments Christians and ask for forgiveness and repent from your sins!!

  • @brandonfields4927
    @brandonfields4927 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

  • @Artisan.HVACR1
    @Artisan.HVACR1 Před 2 lety +2

    Only EPA certIfied individuals can handle, work with, or even purchase refrigerant by law! Tnere is no "do it yourself" in this area. Also, an HVAC technician
    gains nothing from this video. As far as for a person who is not a formally trained HVAC technicisn viewing tnis video and then doing the work this video decribes, that is against the law! At first, I thought this video was for technicians, but then I quickly realized that no HVAC technician can learn anything at all from this video...Then, at the end of the video, it mentions that the video is for HVAC technicians in the field AND "others". Again, an HVAC technician can learn nothing from this video. It's like someone who knows calculus watching a video that teaches how to add and subtract. The person who knows calculus already knows how to add and subtract. That is why this video offers nothing to an HVAC technician. Again, the end of this video mentions it is for HVAC techhnicians and "others". That others part is disturbing because it is against the law for "others" to do what this video describes!

    • @batman88ironman
      @batman88ironman Před 2 lety +5

      You don’t live in the real world dude. In the real world everyone cheats on their epa tests to get certified and then watches CZcams to learn about AC stuff and then goes and does work. That’s how people in the real world do it.

    • @Artisan.HVACR1
      @Artisan.HVACR1 Před 2 lety +5

      @@batman88ironman my generation of HVAC/R service technicians came into the trade before there was even such a thing as the internet, much less social media. The EPA test was in its first year when I was in trade school in the early 1990s. We took it as a paper test in front of our instructors who proctored the exam. You either knew the material and passed or did not know it and failed. Again, there was no such thing as the internet. We studied by actually reading the material and doing our labwork, plus doing the work out in the field. Maybe you are right about how you and all of the technicians who you interact with go about executing the work, but as for me and the generation of technicians I came into the trade with, we did things the old fashioned way...we earned it honestly which took time and hard work. We invested sweat equity into this beautuful trade. As for your repetitive referral to the "real world", I do live in the world, sir. It is one where the work is done honestly because it is RESPECTED. That is how you not only earn an EPA certification, but also how you become a licensed HVAC/R journeyman and a licensed HVAC/R contractor. Respect the work by doing it honestly, even when no one is looking. Us guys in our late forties and beyond understand that principle. We understood it by living it. Good day, sir.

    • @allmight9840
      @allmight9840 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Artisan.HVACR1 sorry man but this just isn't the case.

    • @scaseysteve
      @scaseysteve Před 2 lety

      @@timusa3937 You are correct Tim. Knowledge is never bad.

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 Před rokem

      All of these people worried about EPA rules etc. yet no one is too worried about a system that is leaking when it comes to the atmosphere. Most customers will say "just top it off" and consider a more permanent fix some other time.