I’m 22, been watching you guys since 2014. Remember that the recession and the housing crisis happened when gen z were children. I’ve seen everyone around me struggle all my life. I go to school and have a full time job and still can’t afford a nice apartment. I’ve been working side hustles on top of my regular job for a while now and I’m constantly asked to do more and more without any sort of raise. I’ve told my boss but they always say “we’ll have an evaluation” or “we can’t afford it at this time”. Meanwhile, getting constantly disrespected by customers and choosing then at the end of the day having to choose between food or bills. I’ve applied to many jobs but get ghosted more often than getting a single interview. Places get a tax cut for having a skeleton crew, especially after Covid. And they’re still laying people off without a notice. We’re not lazy and it’s not a “fear of being a loser” thing. It’s a corporate greed problem. If I didn’t have to work everyday to survive I definitely wouldn’t because no matter how hard I hustle inflation keeps getting worse. We hear companies say “we had record profits” but no one but the CEO and the upper management will ever get the bonus. How can anyone have time to actually live and find a spouse and have children if we can’t even afford time off, let alone the cost of raising a child? Not to mention social security will be gone by the time we’re older and most of us aren’t getting covered by our works insurance. Also, for that last part. How would you get dopamine from a hard days work if you know that it will never be enough to progress? Unless the minimum wage is raised and a cap on rent increases is imposed, I don’t see how those who comes from a poor family just getting started in the rat race will ever be able to be secure financially. Love you guys and absolutely no disrespect (y’all helped me through a lot of tough times) but too many media outlets do coverage on gen z to paint all of us as lazy or snobby and you may have fell for it. Gen z “ being lazy” is the new “millennials are killing (insert business here)”. it’s just media catering to the boomers who are addicted to what I call “anger porn”. What better way to capture an audience than by having them think that they are better than every other generation.
If you truly put in the hussle, I suggest you look into a commission based sales job. Yes you are right, making minimum wage, you will never be able to afford to buy a place. But commission sales will. Not like selling knives, but something like insurance, or mortgages, etc. I would offer you a job interview, but I’m in Canada. Getting into commission only is scary because you don’t have the security of a guaranteed pay cheque. BUT if you are as hard working as you say you are, you will make much more then a pay cheque and you will have more freedom to do things you love because you’re not tied to a desk 9-5. This freedom comes later obviously. You probably have to hussle harder then a 9-5 job the first few years to get to that point. But it will be well worth it.
This! And most companies treat u like a number and nothing more. Doesn’t feel good being just another replaceable body ya know.if I’m gonna spend so much time at work I’d like to be able to live alittle but life is expensive. There’s no loyalty for working years at a job anymore either.
@@megaMasterTimmahhh if you were to own a business, wouldn't you do the same? i know most of you would say you'll pay everyone a living wage but i wonder how true that is. like the boomers and gen x, my generations (millennials) have just as much survivor bias as anyone before them and i remember hearing these people complain about not being able to find a job in 2010. these guys grew up, built themselves a business and pay just as unfairly as the ones before them. with this knowledge, you guys are probably going to do the same thing, despite complaining about it now. you'll own a business through "hard work". call the next generation or the people you're hiring "lazy" and "unwilling to work for a living" and repeat the same crap everyone before us says, "i pull myself up from the bootstrap and you should do the same". you might not say it like this but you know what i mean. the same survivor bias bs.
I agree with a wage increase but what is the increase. The problem is with Gen Z is that they want a crazy number. You have to understand that businesses have to survive to hire and pay workers.
I think Steve hit the mark. I don’t think it’s mostly laziness or feeling like they’re above those jobs but people have already given up before starting. The price of living is so high and we’re pressured to hit milestones but now we can’t because of it. People want to buy a house, get married and have a family but it seems so out of reach and not being able to reach that makes people feel depressed and anxious. I think it’s collective depression and anxiety because of how expensive everything is and how people feel like they’ll never achieve their dreams without slaving away.
The fact that "work" or "working hard" is something that the corporations have made the public think is the way of life is crazy to me. I get that it's needed for society to function, but to think that life should be mostly you working your ass off to have a meager living is beyond sad.
Hard work is what brings meaning to life. People did not start working hard after corporations told them to. You think Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel because a corporation told him to? Stop with the excuses.
@@mohmj6815 nah bro. it brings meaning to YOUR LIFE. your empty, pathetic life. i have so much more to live for than work. with that being said, i do enjoy working hard, but it does not bring me meaning. friends, family and hobbies should bring you meanings. if you don't have this and all you have is your job, in my opinion, you failed!
We are at that point in the game of Monopoly where there’s one person that is winning and owns everything; but then all the other players start rage-quitting because no matter what move they make, they are losing every single turn. So what’s the point of playing the game if there’s no chance to win or survive?
@@Dave_of_Mordor The globalists and elites in our country. The head of the cia, the people who bribe the senators, the sames ones who keep who killed JFK secret after all these decades. The ones who make sure you'll never be rich if you do what society tells you. That's who.
I agree 100% with Steve as a 23 year old with a bachelors in kinesiology I’ve worked so many jobs boba, restaurant, bakery, ups during college and I have nothing to show for it. All I have is debt… we are pushed so hard to get a good education and you’ll get a nice paying job but how without more education and more debt. Not to mention college is at the highest it’s ever been in history. Let’s say I make 70k in California where does that go? I can afford a 350,000 mortgage but what can I buy? Not even a decent condo so it leads to the mentality of what’s the point for many of us. I’m lucky enough to have supportive parents to let me live without paying rent so I’m back in school getting another degree that will pay decently, but how about the rest of us who don’t have that support system. Just food for thought
Felt this same degree and the only reason I’ve “used “ it is for powerlifting and coaching I used to do . Other then that still in debt and still going to college for another degree . That they probably won’t asked for at a interview or etc
I was seriously thinking about continuing school, should I still do it? My mom had a stroke during my senior year of high school (2014) so I stayed home to take care of her after high school and never went to college. The reason I wanted to go back now was because an event hit me hard recently that showed me how powerless I really was if my mom was to pass away. I am my mom's care provider, I get paid by the state to provide care for her (like a nurse). After my mom passed away I will have almost nothing on my resume. My family is super dysfunctional. I won't be able to rely on anybody. Should I still go back to school?
As a gen z male who dropped out of collage I personally have never had peers make fun of me for working a grunt work type job. I worked in multiple restaurants/service industry jobs. And multiple people I went to high school with actually respect me for it. Most of my town are minorities who’ve seen our parents work hard to provide for their loved ones. To be fair NJ is full of some of the most hardworking assholes out there. I can totally understand why most states don’t like us 😂
I think the not wanting to be a loser thing was more prevalent a few years ago. Now I think people don’t want those kind of jobs because they’re next to impossible to live off of. I had to work 2 jobs for years working in food and retail because I just wasn’t getting paid enough.
I was at a park during the day enjoying nature and realized the only other people who could do the same would be the wealthy and retired. It's crazy how much of the day is spent trapped, whether at a shit job or inside of a car in traffic
then study automation. automate our world so we no longer have to work. you'll be the hero of humanity. our champion. you will be remembered long after your death. I'll tell my grandkids about you. I'll even exaggerate some parts to make you more heroic in their eyes.
@@maYTeus we can't do that. Even if I were to stop, the majority of my neighbors would not. You can't just tell us to stop doing what we've been doing for thousands of years. I was just messing around but your response was pretty immature
Some truth to what you said, but also, the cost of living does not meet earnings of minimum wage jobs. Hell, even some people with "steady" corporate jobs can't pay rent or buy a home in many cities. And rent is not the only monthly payment to be owed.
Very true it's scary seeing even some people that are very qualified working "stable" jobs being only paid 50k...yea its a lot but compared to the cost with school and even just basic necessities of life it's hard to justify that you live to work and not the other way around of working to live.
Also, most of us weren't able to just stay home during the pandemic. Working during the pandemic was straight up traumatic for a lot of us. We did years of that just to never get a break while everyone else got to stay home for months and start new hobbies and start new businesses. Students didn't get those big checks everyone else got because we were our parents' dependents on taxes. We weren't given any aid during the pandemic at all. Everyone was freaking tf out about covid and arguing while we just had to go into work and risk it regardless, hoping that people would be respectful and not get us sick.
Depending on what year you were in college, if you working while you were a student, you could have done your own taxes and gotten that money also. If I were you, I’d do my taxes before March so that you can apply for financial aid. Deadline is March 2! Plus financial aid gives more than enough money for school. And then if they decide to give out more stimulus checks, you can start receiving them. If you’re in college and not getting enough money from work I would apply for food stamps, you can be single and still receive food stamps.
I agree with you one thousand percent my daughter is older she's not a gen z, she worked during the pandemic, while co-workers didn't come to work and made more off the government then she ever could. She dealt with everyone's bullshit during that time as well.
@Dennis Xiong my daughter, went to work every day to support her family. My point is don't be lazy and just want to collect from the government and not get off your ass and work. All this time later, they still aren't at work, so NO, that wasn't the point, and you saying it is, is ludicrous.
@@GYSMelanie5 So it’s people’s fault for being lazy and not that their work place treat them like shit by over working them and under paying them. Could it be that maybe people have worked hard but is sick and tired of how they’re treated?
I'm 24 spent my whole life working towards becoming an engineer. Graduated end of 2019, and decided to take a 6 month break as I was working basically full time throughout my studies since 15 and was burnt out. Then the pandemic happens, so I applied for 2 years with no luck now no one will hire me for my field and I'm working a shitty job.
I graduated with a bachelors degree too and the struggle to find a relevant job to the degree is hard. However, lots of jobs (not related to your degree) will accept you because you completed it. And you’ll get compensated more than if you were fresh out of high school. That being said I went back to school because a masters degree is the new bachelors😂
I’m the same broski, just so hard to even get foot in the door without experience. I really learnt the meaning of its who you know and not what you know. Especially in these industries, just so competitive and you can be no different compared to the other 100 they interviewed for the role. Fuck it though just gonna keep going, see what life has for me.
( 30 years old here ) Jobs nowadays offer no value to us. 9 hours is a waste of time for so little money. If they took away 3 -4 hours of the time and for same amount of money. You will see people flocking to jobs. People value times now, since we know we won't get that dream of owning a house or maybe get on top of the career ladder. People want some control over their life. We also have dreams, hobbies and needs. Just shorting the hours down would release amount of stress and be able to do stuff while the sun is out. I'm tired of getting up 5am and coming home at around 6pm and head to bed because I don't want to feel terrible at the workplace. This is tiredsome.
As a currently unemployed 19 year old (starting my first job next Monday). I can say that for me, I saw how unhappy my friends were working average jobs like fast food. Knowing I don’t want to put myself in that type of environment (angry customers and toxic managers) I went ahead and grew my resume on my own agenda by joining school clubs, doing side hustles and helping my parents. That same resume got me a spot on the job I truly wanted, police force. Granted I’m starting off as a police cadet because I’m not 21 yet but it’s definitely helping me step my foot in the door. As a now adult, I was scared of having that miserable 9-5 job my parents did and so I decided I could skip that part of I played my cards correctly
14:25 this is why gen z or any young generation is aversive to the older generation and thier viewpoints. They have this attitude of "you don't know any better". Just because someone doesn't agreee with your way of life doesn't make them stupid. They did live through it when they saw their parents go through it and contrary to what you might think, seeing a life you don't want to live is enough, you don't have to "live" thorugh it.
you cant deny experiencing something is completely different than watching it which is where the "you dont know any better" attitude stems. thats the problem gen z is facing, they are scared of going through hardship because social media makes people assume everyone just magically became these e-celebrities overnight so they believe you dont need to go through struggle to become successful. Young people try to adhere to the "work smarter not harder" mentality without realizing working smarter doesn't mean working less. I also blame first-world countries for becoming less religious/spiritual which makes gen z very short-sighted and focus more on instant gratification rather than working towards a larger goal knowing there will be struggles to get there. Another big issue faced by gen z is having main character syndrome which is a whole problem in it itself. the reality of life is you need to have lows in order to have highs. you have to do things you dont like in order to learn and persevere, gen z can call themselves hard workers but it does not mean anything if they haven't done work. If I had to pick between a resume where one had work experience as a cashier and the other had no work experience, I would obviously pick the person who was a cashier because it means they have experience talking to customers than the person with no work experience who watched their parents go through that and got scared of doing the same thing.
@@copboom555 You're missing the point. Gen Z are weary of trappings of materialism and struggling unnecessarily. They're facing hardships all the time like people from any generation. The difference is they can't afford the stability needed in life to recover from a hard time or take any chances. And don't say "how can they know about ___? " because that's truly ignorant. Think about people that grew up around their parents being domestically violent or abusing substances. Do you think kids witnessing hard times doesn't effect their outlook? How would the know that heroin or an abusive partner wouldn't motivate them to become kings and Queens of industry? Sounds dumb, don't it?
@@Ludosukehero Quality of life is increasing and has been increasing, "...they can't afford the stability needed in life to recover from a hard time or take any chances" is simply untrue we literally live in an era where we can turn nothing into something with little to no capital and a ton of information is at our fingertips for free. Whether a person can recover or not from a hard time or take any chances is purely up to the individual, the difference is gen z has much more tools at their disposal. I'll reiterate my point briefly since it seems like you missed the entire premise. Experiencing is different from observing, it takes experience to truly understand something, and undergoing many experiences builds a work ethic that gen z fails to recognize. There are tons of scholarly articles and statistics about active learning vs passive learning if it's still difficult to understand. The point you're making about kids who experience broken households is true that it affects their outlook, I would go even further and say it affects their entire life. We typically see children either toughen up from those scenarios and build the drive to better themselves from it or see them fall into depravity and addiction and repeat the cycle again. I believe we should normalize the behavior that children in those situations toughen themselves to pull them out of that situation or do the best they can not the latter. Although, we are now talking about children who experience traumatic situations, not gen z.
Our generation prioritizes our mental health, work-life balance, & our time more than the previous generations. Life is short and passes by in the blink of an eye. What's the point of working hard & killing yourself for a company that doesn't care for you & being too busy to enjoy the 1 and only life you've got?
I agree and I’m Gen X. The only problem is there are no ideal jobs, opportunities, or ideas. You still need to pay for basics like rent or mortgage, food, clothing, utilities.
Sure. But what good would their mental health do them if they're broke and can't support themselves. And who do they lean on when that inevitably happens?
Great episode!! Also, Steve is right on the money in terms of how people do work hard but still not making ends meet due to inflation or the current economic status. It is crazy out there. 😅😭😭
As a millennial I am considering taking this type of leave because my mental and physical health is at risk after working for 6-7 years in corporate. I've always had a job as an adult but with the past 5 years I already have high blood pressure and I'm worried about the physical toll that my mental health is taking on my body. I know I'm a good worker and I think workplaces take advantage of that. I'm really thinking about taking a gap year, changing industries, or even working a "chiller" job while I explore other options on the side. Because I'll tell you what life is short and I'm not trying to have a stroke one day all because of a job.
@@OhGeeGanksta because after 2 months you already start to notice physiological changes and mental-emotional changes and if they aren't for the better then they need to go
@@OhGeeGanksta 1. Most of my close friends and myself are diagnosed so I was speaking on our perspectives a as ND peeps. 2. The people that I have worked with or near keep their jobs up until the benefits no longer outweigh the drawbacks, which happens very often nowadays thanks to the health and saftey risks growing daily. Plus the pay is usually not even enough to cover how expensive health insurance premiums are, so yes we would rather walk off and not take the job or quit then stress ourselves out just for it not to be worth it in the end
Old person these days be like I know like 2 people..all these other people I have no clue who they are. I checked my blood pressure other day, surprised it was really good lol.
Joe and Steve are right about the consumerism part... I'm an older millennial that started working at 19 and by 22 I started accumulating debt... and now I'm stuck in the cycle and it kind of sucks! It's too expensive to live on my own, so I help my family as much as I can, and when I date, I'm hoping for love of course, but also for a second income 😅
as a 21 year old gen z, we dont want to work because it’s literally all exploitive. minimum wage should be so much higher, ESPECIALLY here in california. we’re not being paid a living wage
Basically this. I’m gen Z ( 20 ) and feel the same. I want to go and contribute, but I want to do it in a none-exploitative and ethical way. I think most people are realizing that working is just that. We are doing it to pay rent and put food on the table. Nothing more nothing less. I’m doing what I’m paid to do. If I’m paid to stock shelves at a grocery store, then I’m gonna stock shelves. If my employer desires extra work outside of the agreed upon, my pay should reflect that. If I’m paid minimum wage, then my employer is gonna get minimum effort. Act your wage, it’s that simple.
I agree! 22-year-old here. Worked at a gas station while doing full-time college. 50+ hours a week, kept failing classes. Several robbery scares and didn't have a day off for two months. No, I couldn't even afford rent.
You are the reason we are fucking doomed you aren’t supposed to be living on minimum wage your whole life, work there a couple month and leverage the money to start a business or someshit. YEAH RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO DECREASE THE AVAILABLE LABOR TO SMALL MA/Pa shop Nice. 😂 Like buddy if you live in California you are already living a better life than 90% of people on this earth. and all you wanna do is complain. When I feel like bitching all I tell myself is there person who is willing to kill for my position. - as a 18 year old it is really scary seeing how people a little bit older than me are so lost within this money matrix. Like truth is buds if your income is not increasing faster than inflation YOU ARE POOR. And raising minimum wage is only gonna make it worse.
Here In Texas the minimum wage has been $7.25 for over 10 years, by those 10 years the price of everything has gone up because of inflation….except the minimum wage. I’ve worked both minimum wage jobs and more decent paying jobs, and any time I’ve had to take a job that pays minimum wage just cus I really need a job, i was making less than $900 bucks a month, I can’t afford to pay rent and a cellphone bill and a car bill and insurance with that. So why would I ever want to go back to a job that pays anything less than $18 an hour.
I haven't finished the video before commenting. But why y'all talking minimal here? Maybe if u studied harder you would've got into high paying jobs lol
I’m 18 working as a welder making 19 dollars an hour and I work my ass off too know everything I can about my job and how to push my self further and I’m starting to question if im even gonna make it in this world. just due to the fact that everything’s so expensive now an days I don’t even know if I’ll ever move out of my parents unless I move to a different province or buy a property way up in the middle of nowhere and build my own house. So I completely understand what the rest of my generation is feeling
It's not that Gen Z doesn't care. It's that they can't afford to live in their own space with lower paying jobs and almost like why bother until you can get to a job with a livable wage.
Yet do they have the skills and education and/or knowledge to work in a job that pays a livable wage? Or do they need to work the lower level jobs to gain the knowledge and skills to work their way up to the better paying jobs? And what do they spend or invest in with the money they do have? Key questions.
@@bethnichols2875 Hey did you know that the minimum wage was made to be the bare minimum livable wage? Maybe read a history book, or better yet get an actual material understanding of the society and system you live in
I'm going to disagree with everyone in this video except Steve. The issue is everything he said is dead on especially with the lyft driver example. Gen Z and millennials don't want to work because they don't want to be exploited. The reason why they don't want those jamba juice jobs is not because they feel its beneath them its because they know that job is not going to pay them enough to sustain a living. Why slave away at a jamba juice or bagging groceries when they know from the start its not going to provide them what they need. Its like what Steve said with the inflation point. Homes, goods, entertainment, etc are going up when wages are stagnant. A lot of people cant even get full time jobs because companies don't want to pay benefits. Even if the minimum wage gets increased companies are only going to give full time hours and benefits to employees who have been there for around 10 years. The mentality is why work hard and push myself for little to no reward then get called lazy and unmotivated (which is most of this video is) for realizing its a bad deal. Its ridiculous that even if someone can get full time they have to deal with workplace abuse, manipulation from bosses, work some cases 50+ hours a week and still cant even afford a minimum living by themselves while out of touch cooperations are making record profits while those same companies claim they "cant afford" to give employees better wages. This doesn't even include that there is almost no job security nowadays because despite you putting in the work companies will STILL lay you off at any point especially since it seems like every other week another company does mass layoffs. On top of all that its difficult to compete in the job market because cooperations are off shoring a lot of jobs overseas to exploit them for cheaper labor. You cant compete with someone who is willing to do a job for next to nothing in another country. They know the system is rigged for the top 1% and boomers who grew up during the golden age after WW2 because they were already established or grandfathered in. That is why most young people (18 to late 20s) don't want to work. It has nothing to do with laziness. They don't want to work themselves to death for next to nothing in return. Nick was onto something with the onlyfans point. A big reason why onlyfans is so huge right now is partly because the dopamine effect but that's a minority. There is a massive loneliness problem because the relationship expectations for men (especially for income and looks) are insanely high and unrealistic. A lot of modern women nowadays wont even look a man's way if he is not in a certain tax bracket (mostly because of social media) and even if they did make that much money there is no legal incentive for men to get married/start family because of how rigged the family courts are against men. This is also one of the biggest reasons guys like Andrew Tate blew up the way he did despite all of his controversy . Why get married or date when the woman for any reason on a whim can divorce you ruining you financially (especially if kids are involved), god forbid falsely accuse you of something like domestic violence and/or sexual assault and destroy your reputation which leads to you losing your job, close friends and very often access to your children with no legal or social repercussions for her? Its a lot safer and easier to go to onlyfans or something similar to get fulfillment that way. Young people (especially young men) that know how screwed up everything is are simply choosing to not play a game they cant win.
How is that not lazy? I don’t want to work because there’s no point so I’ll just continue to let my family take care of me. Yeah I want to know how do you survive with that mentality? Do you stay with your parents? Live in your car? You choose not to work does it affect your parents in anyway? Are they having to work harder or keep working so that you can stay home and enjoy living for free? You think your family wants to work forever? They just do it because they have to, to survive. If you’re going to stay home, do you at least help out with a bill or something. Are you at least doing that? Or is your family well off that you don’t feel the need to? Or do you have a good relationship with your parents that staying home isn’t so bad? And they don’t mind it? Idk man. I left my moms at 18, came back at 21 and left the next day because I just could not stand the rules. Imagine being over 18 and having a 8:00pm curfew and not being allowed to eat after a certain time. Rather live in my car.
In capitalism, everyone has to sell something to make money to survive (eat food, pay rent, etc). If you don't own any capital to extract surplus value out of other people's labor, the only way you can survive is to sell your labor power. Workers are in a perpetual state of trying to pay for their basic needs, while the profit employers make is directly taken from the unpaid labor of their employees.
(I hope this doesn't get deleted) I know a guy that works 2 jobs, lives with his parents, has had a decent work experience enough to earn at least 50k but can't, and still can't afford to move out. There's all these "Now hiring" signs because companies have to pretend like they're always hiring and "trying" when in reality they cut hours of their current workers and regularly do rounds of seasonal lay offs to save money and make their projected profit. It's bizarre to me to see people blame the workers when sooooo many people come to the retail job I work at and then be turned away because we have job application posts out there, but aren't hiring.
In my opinion (21yo male in MS) I feel like there’s a lil truth to what y’all were saying. Some people do feel that certain jobs are beneath them but I think the main factor is probably people are realizing how underpaid/underappreciated workers are in certain jobs and that they should be treated more with respect. Just like if we are in a toxic romantic relationship, you gotta cut ties. So if work treats you like shit, then leave them Yes there are lazy ass people but I feel like the good workers are never treated like good workers, they’re just simply taken advantage of. I’ve worked a total of 6 jobs since the age of 17. My first job was at McDonald’s. I’ve worked 2 warehouse jobs and I’ve worked 3 separate jobs at a local mall. When I was younger, being at McDonald’s taught me a lot. I had to be responsible for so much shit, get bickered at, and all just to get paid pretty much minimum wage. I truly felt like hard work pays off but it doesn’t feel like it. Working at warehouses, it showed how depressed being a full time worker was living almost paycheck to paycheck. I was in school but being around adults with or without families, I didn’t want end up like them, no disrespect ofc. Also, as being gen z, we saw A LOT of millennials make a great living outside of traditional jobs. We saw people blowing up from the internet, on YT, or other entrepreneurial careers. We now feel like we too deserve more, that we can be more than the past generations. Every other person I talk to in my generation has some kind of ambition to create their own career. They wanna start their own businesses, and not have a boss that doesn’t appreciate them and wants them to kiss their ass. The generation before us showed us the things that are possible and some gen z people wanna do that and possibly even push the boundaries of what we can do. Some of us seek happiness over success as well
We need a good and genuine Gen Z on the show, because as a 21 year old I’m hearing everything you guys are saying, agreeing and disagreeing but that’s what the boys do we talk and we grow.
why do you quit? do you go home and play video games? work is the best thing anyone can do. and what you need to do should never be what you want to do. thats what men do.
@@xTylerit depends. Some people CAN be what they want to be, but with work. That’s what MEN do. Work no matter what. But a lot of us are still boys who give up early
@@george_MF_washington for sure, and no ones faulted for not experiencing certain things yet, but also not all people have the same tendencys. I use to skip school and play the game but when it comes to work, work is the only place i even socialize. If I didn't go to work and decided to stay home, id just be playing myself out of any opportunities the day could have brought. Interacting with people is something people should take more interest. A lot has to do with social distancing. NGL interacting with people arent the same My current goal is to unlock my way of thinking when I was a child. Say whatevers on my mind without the fear of being judged because cancel culture and people getting offended for OTHER people is only on the internet.
During quarantine, I got a Saturday job at a farmers market. I had a full time job as an urban planner but it wasn’t essential. Being able to get out and work at the market on Saturdays was a life saver (physically and mentally). I may be a weirdo but retail and service jobs are fun because it’s simple. I wish my current job had a 4-10s schedule because I would have another part time job. It also helped with paying off debt.
I miss my customer service job at 85C. The store I worked at was close, and the job itself was easy. My current job is also pretty easy, but it doesn't pay enough and requires me to spend 2 hours a day to commute, but is the only job I can find that matches my experience level that pays more than minimum wage.
Retail and service jobs are simple but they are not all the same. Not to disparage you, because enjoying those jobs are fine, but I want to provide another perspective. In highschool, I worked at Popeyes, a fast food chain. Despite it being illegal to work more than 6 hours during a school week, I was always scheduled to work from 4pm to 12am 4-5 days a week. It was nice money, sure, but this was during the pandemic when stores were beginning to open. Customers constantly complained and yelled because they were hungry and waiting for their food. It's simple but the experience is broad. Had to deal with so many homeless, druggies, and generally angry people. I seriously doubt that those kind of people would go to a Farmer's Market.
I'm 27, and here's why I don't go work. I don't want a husband or boyfriend, I don't want kids. I love my parents, so I don't mind living with them. I work side hustles from home to pay for my everyday expenses and take care of my dog and save for when my parents retire, so I can take care of them, but I'm not saving for a house or for my retirement. When my parents pass, hopefully I'll be at an age where I can pass without leaving too much behind. I literally do not care about anything else or have any motivation for my future.
Companies use to care about employees. They use to want you to stay. They use to pay you enough to stay with them, you could buy a house, have a family, go on an occasional vacation. Now what do we get? You get fired through a text message by your boss. My grandfather worked for a mill for 20 years and they gave him a diamond ring engraved with his and the companies initials. The position I just left. I was there for seven years and minimum wage caught up to the salary and that was it. You know what my last companies "career perks" were? 5 years you get a cup with your name on it. 10 years you get a backpack. 15 years you got a blanket and 20 years you got a company lunch. Where everyone else had to pay for themselves so no one came. What happened to family fun days? What happened to work retreats? What happened to bonuses for regular people? What happened to being able to survive? People blame Gen Z but what Generation is it that is running all the businesses right now? They are obviously running the businesses like shit. They apparently didn't learn how to run businesses. They think its just make money and that the workers are a completely expendable usage item. I'm 100% serious when was the last time anyone in the comments had a supervisor or boss sit you down to have a positive conversation about your future at the company? They don't do that shit anymore, then they blame the people they are screwing?
This episode was very insightful and eye opening since i remember guys. What a great brainstorm you had here, great conclusions, wise discussions, broad arguments. I love it
People are starting to know their worth now with all the information available on social media. Why work a 9-5, micromanaging, toxic customer service job that doesn't pay that well (even with a college degree), when there are many influencers around your age making millions?
I'm 37 years old and live at home taking care of my mother. In my opinion, that's my primary job, regardless of what society has to say on the matter. I also do occasional freelance writing gigs, and run my own small business that brings me joy, as well as provides a service in my community. The small business I run assists people with making purchases they may be going into without a comfortable knowledge base of, prior to the transaction (consumer electronics, computing, etc). I have an associate's and a bachelor's degree, but my mentality kind of falls in line with this discussion. I have tons of retail and sales experience, but I see those industries for exactly what they are (air conditioned manipulation outlets for consumerism). The sectors I'd prefer to work in (communications, human resources) love to pretend they hire fresh blood, but they mostly hire those with the identical experience they're looking for from a rival employer, or it comes down to how good your networking is or has been. These issues will not change globally until more employers hire based on best fit and character displayed during the interview process and probational period, and focus less on spreadsheets and algorithms which inevitably eliminate individuals who may work harder and better than those who make it into their office. And I want to be clear, that I'm not approaching this issue with frustration, I'm merely expressing why corporations are struggling to find quality workers who want to grow with and in a company. Information travels too quickly for a healthy chunk of people who critically think to fall into cycles of 'going along to get along' or 'scraping by while metaphorically wasting away'. My reasoning for not being too concerned personally, besides the obvious supplemental income I bring in, is that I remain persistent in applying to careers of interest, and continue to build my network regularly. But, I can empathize with how frustrating this can be for others without the understanding and tools to navigate these issues. The right opportunity will present itself as I continue to focus on the things in my control (preparation, mock interviews, impactful recommendations, networking, etc). Sorry for being long-winded, but this topic brought a lot out of me, and I appreciate the perspectives shared during this discussion, from all parties involved.
I don’t know if they understand what it’s actually liek looking for a job now. I applied to 70 jobs in a yeah and I’ll schedule interviews w them. I did in person, over the phone, Skype interviews. I have decent experience. I applied to jobs I am qualified for. A lot of them have just ghosted me. So I’ll call and they say they aren’t looking for anyone atm… Or I will hear for them a year later after I already got a job. They promote they are “hiring” but just want a list of ppl for when they do need them. A lot of the times you get hired, get promised 40 hrs. Then you end up working 20-30 hours. They don’t want to give ppl benefits and keep people. They rather have temporary ppl doing a crappy job and barley keeping the business alive. I’ve even applied to low end jobs like movie theaters, stores at malls and plazas, and even fast food places and have no problems working any “low job” and they aren’t hiring. I applied to Costco/Target multiple times since I was 18 and keep getting reflected. I am trilingual, English/Spanish/Portuguese, and have no criminal record. The only jobs that do hire when they say they are hiring are high turnover jobs like amazon and debt collectors. I work at both. I am very unhappy at my job and it’s very toxic. But I work my full time jobs because I have bills to pay and saving up money. A lot of ppl my agar are experiencing the same thing. Even w their degrees and looking for careers not related to their degrees. This honestly stresses me out. But I’m doing my best.
I don’t mind working tbh, I actually really like it, especially jobs that require me to move and be active but I think there needs to be a balance so people can work and survive in this economy but not have to kill themselves trying to do so.
Dude I'm bout to be 30 this year and I have 2 jobs planning on getting a 3rd cause I can't make enough to live cause I'm being screwed by the system I'm an IT for a school and I work in retail and I'm still negative 800 dollars and I feel like spending 20 dollars is wasteful like I don't spend on stupid shit I'm just suffering the system just sucks
“We need those people to do those jobs for society to function “ 😹I don’t want it to keep functioning, not trying to work till I die ( I have two jobs tho :( (20M)
18 here. and ppl would be surprised how many genz kids worry about the world we are "adulting into". My high school was filled with many types of kids but i can slpit the school into two. 1. normal public school students really working hard and 2. the people that really don't fucking care. I think those two can classify almost any generation. I just think that this generation is trying really hard to change the norm and we are in the "extreme era" of this change. I believe that mental health is the main problem. i mean "happy wife happy life" and in my mind everyone is the wife. Even with the driving like Bart said they can uber or lyft now but what i hear is that kids are genuinely scared to get on the road (including myself). I think when the world was trying to "show the dark side" of a lot of things its just struck terror into most people and gave doubt for even the simplest things. I also think that the world phase of when parents said "you can do anything" really fucked us up. cuz it just sets u up for failure. I know so may juniors and seniors who were told that and now when talking with counselors and realizing that they cant do anything and that really depressed so many people and valid response (its like how some kids act when santa isn't real but bigger). I think how people are dealing with this wave is the chaos we are seeing today. That's just normal civilian life not even accounting for all the things the government contributes to this depression. 😤that was a lot lol I'm still learning more myself but i guess this is where my brain is at rn well have a good day!
I recently heard about this girl in HS that got ptsd after she joined a climate change club, she became increasingly troubled to the point of a breakdown and had to be medicated. This generation has taken on huge, impossible causes and that powerlessness can be a scary thing.
I think you guys are too sensitive tbh... like geez youre crying bc they support you by saying you can do anything? Our parents beat our ass and said we will neverrrrr do anything bc were so dumb etc. The problem here is gen zz privledge
@@c.n.p.657 i talking about the parents that baby they kids and never give them actually advice. And hey I'm so sorry you got ur ass beat and you went through the world phase of "not giving a shit and social stigmas". If you wanna see a happy medium then u gotta experience both extremes to find the most tolerable way. Also, ps talk nicer when u tryna make a point. Also sounds like u still salty from ur childhood and you know what man take all the time u need cuz healin takes time.
You guys have another problem. American society is declining. Our government just hit the debt ceiling 2 days ago. If they don’t raise the limit by June they default on the national debt. That means retirement programs and pensions like social security will be the first to get cut. The economy will collapse and we go into a depression. Sorry for you guys. It will be extremely difficult to get by.
@@lil_rata6994 im not salty lmaoo im literally speaking the same way the ppl you watch on JKNEWSSSSS speak about their childhood. But thats what i mean w the gen z sensitivity its sm like chillll lol
As a Gen X myself, I salute the Gen Z for not putting up with the crap my generation had to deal with. 10:00 It's true, back then people didn't look down on mall workers regardless of age. I worked at a department store in my teen years during the 90s and 80s. Most people I work with were boomers and they were there as part time workers so they can pay off there Bentleys, vacations , or summer homes. 90s: People HAD part time jobs to splurge. Now : People NEED part time jobs (side hustle) just to stay afloat.
It is so frustrating as a disabled older person to see people squander all these job opportunities but I understand why people are struggling too. I cannot imagine paying some of the rents I see in cities like LA or NY, it is tough enough anywhere in the country.
I work at Jamba Juice and I love it. Starting pay is $18/hr, plus credit card/ cash tips with culinary union benefits. I literally bring home $1500-1800 every two weeks. Super easy job that pays well and all of the employees like it too. There are a few young new hires that never pass their probation period.
I'm a 24 year old middle class college degree kid who lives at home. I've worked full time jobs and am a hard worker. I'd work for Starbucks they would pay me 30-50$ an hour. If jobs paid better people would work. 40 hours a week for 15$ job that sucks isn't gonna cut it anymore if I don't need it to survive.
I'm 22, graduated last May, started teaching last August. I love my students and love teaching but the system sucks all around which I think all age groups are aware of. I still live at home but there is nowhere affordable to live at least not right now with my wage, I'll probably be at home for a couple years before I can try and find a place hopefully. It's truly tiring when the world is kind of against you, especially as a young 20s female POC. Plus Karen's and bad parents (since I'm a teacher) lol literally had to almost cps this month.
Btw not comfortable because yes I love my family, but if I could move out BEST BELIEVE I WOULD haha and the depression rings a bit true. (Just at that point in the video)
I just don't want to work day to day with minimum wage. Also lots of us young people are joining strikes and sit downs because jobs like Starbucks take advantage of employees especially when they took away chairs from the breakroom.
I worked hard my job so they made it a point to take care of me. I started as a cashier working 1 day a week because I needed current experience in that field and was already working 3 other jobs. In less than a month I got pay raise and was asked to join the team and I said no because my other jobs paid well. They then matched my pay so I was able to just work one job and quit the other three. And then I got promoted again after 3-6 months. And now I working in the accounting office doing payroll with no college degree getting twenty something / hr I made it a point to know every department of my store so that I am an asset to the company. So all you people doing minimum work for minimum pay are just going to stay there with that mentality because you think you deserve more for doing what you’re paid to do.
There is no labour shortage in industries that pay their worker's fair livable wages. Productivity has steadily increased though the decades but wages have remained stagnant.
I’m 22 and have already bought into my parents’ business. the business is a dairy goat farm (400 milking head) and so there is a lot of grunt work and shift work that is perfect for the average teenager as a first job. being a young person myself I’m constantly upset and confused about how we struggle to find young people (my age and younger) to fill the positions. I live for what I do, but I know its not what everyone wants to do, they do it because they need to work so I try to make the environment as enjoyable as I can for everyone involved so that they want to come to work or are more willing to deal with difficult parts of the job. i love my work and do it proudly but at the same time recently I’ve realized that I don’t mention what I do as a trades job because of some kind of shame I feel, I have yet to know the direct cause of it but I think the general feeling can be attributed to the trades getting looked down on or there is little to no understanding due to the disconnect of generations not needing to work trades to survive and going to full academia, creating 2 extremes. For example, the number of times someone who has never farmed themselves or had someone like grandparent who farmed that have told me they think farming is simple is ridiculous and genuinely offensive at this point. The internet creates eco chambers and algorithms feed you exactly what we want so it reinforces your beliefs, but with how things are set up there is no way to bridge the gap between the 2 extremes online so it is left to being done in person. I personally think that now adays people are slapped with life and don’t know how to deal with a lot of stuff that happens as you get older (I’m constantly having to check myself too). I think young people being chronically online keeps people from developing interpersonally that’s why kids are more immature or have a younger mentality for longer in this generation.
I respect anyone who works and make an honest living. Regardless of the job. As a person who works in retail, just like workers in the food & restaurant industry, we get treated like we're not human. And look down upon by customers.
I’m grateful for social media because there really isn’t an excuse anymore. I used to work as a dishwasher with immigrant family I didn’t want to follow there footsteps so I decided to do side hustles like editing videos for friends and clients I didn’t want to work a “ normal job ” because I felt like my younger and older generation didn’t want to work as passionate as I did and make things easier so I listened to David So on a topic about toxic work environments so I left and now I’m doing way better mentally financially and more productive without having a family of my own or having toxic people in my life it helped me grow as an adult!!! SHOUT OUT TO DAVID SO BTW.❤❤❤
I think because the generation before mine, pushed SO hard for college that they completely disregarded how important trade jobs are. Trade jobs can also pay extremely well/ just as much as a job that requires a degree. I didn't end up finishing college and I use to be really embarrassed about it, but my husband has a really well paying trade job and I've landed a well paying management job in a healthcare setting that only required on the job training. I think the stigma around blue collar jobs needs to go!
For me personally im mid 20s, im just trying get better at my craft and I live very minimal, I see working at like for example at taco bell is a waste of time(not as below me , it just doesnt help with what im trying to get better at), I can get by with my savings from my previous jobs for now by living extremely cheaply meanwhile I'm spend most of my time practicing my craft so I can get better faster and perhaps make more money in the long run instead of working a job for short term fast cash. It's like an investment in a way, an investment of skill.
Must be different in LA… because people work here in TX. These jobs yall call “beneath” us are not worth the pay… no one can live off of these low paying wages. Cost of living has gone way up and the minimum wage in TX is $7… kids are realizing these job are not worth it. Side gigs becoming main source of income, such as lash Techs, car detailing, nail techs, window washing, power washing, landscaping, Uber, DoorDash etc are now considered “entry level” not Jamba Juice or whatever tf
26 yo millenial, wanted to save my story for my internship at JK but i'll briefly sum it up, I been working since 16 & living with my folks for that long. Just barely am I able to comfortably afford REGULAR luxuries of not checking the tab or the prices on the menu. 10 years of work and I'm in limbo of the ability to afford daily life but unable to make a big step like buy a house
The problem pay is to low and life is too expensive. I’m gen Z and have been working since I was 14, I’m 23 now .company’s don’t care about the hard working staff, you get treated like shit until you quit then they are willing and begging to do anything to keep you to stay.
I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that people look down on certain jobs. Even before social media, I remember working at a movie theatre in high school in 2005, freshly 16 years old, and being told by the manager of the theatre that it was important for people my age to work these jobs so that I could learn which kind of jobs I didn't want to work in the future. And then he told me to go to college and get a degree. So yeah, this isn't social media's fault. This is the classism that our society perpetuates. And I'm sorry but if you have a college degree, those jobs just don't cut it. Those jobs will ensure you stay in debt for the rest of your life. 15/hr just isn't going to work and it's even worse with inflation at an all time high. Companies need to offer higher pay and better incentives before people start working there again.
Perhaps the manager was speaking from experience in hopes that you, as an impressionable 16 year old would think about what you wanted to do with the rest of your life vs just what can I buy with my paycheck.
Btw, what the manager of the theatre said to you wasn't "classism". It was a gift of the person's knowledge and experience. Be honest, when you were 16 yrs old, were you the type of person who had a savings account and was saving your money up towards your future while living under your parents roof? Where they still covered your expenses and you were covered under their medical and auto insurance, with a roof over your head and food on the table and had clothes to wear? Did you see the job you were working as a learning experience to gain skills and figure out what you would like to work at in your future? Or did you just see that job as spending money for seemingly here to day gone tomorrow things aka the original working "paycheck to paycheck"? When my son was younger, I had started him a savings account, same as my parents had done for me when I was a kid. When he was old enough to get a job he wisely chose to put his paychecks into his savings account and would think through his decisions over whether or not something was worth spending his hard earned money on or if it was better to continue saving it up in the bank where it would accrue interest. Something to think about.
@@bethnichols2875 I had a joint checking AND savings account at 16 with my mom. I saved all of my checks I'd made and bought my first car as a junior in high school. I paid for my first cell phone and paid my own car insurance. I was also going to school, working part time, and taking college classes at the same time. So, yeah, I was pretty responsible for my age. But that's really besides the point. Saying that 16 year olds should do this job so they can discover that they don't like the work is an insult to an adult who's working that job to pay for their family's needs. It feeds into the idea that certain types of jobs should stay minimum wage because only high schoolers do them, when that was not the case. Not then and certainly not now. And precisely because the wages are so low, people do look down on them. That's just an undeniable fact. Why do you think fast food workers, anyone in the service business, or the people working at Amazon get treated so poorly? Because people in white collar jobs think they're better than the people doing blue collar jobs. Welcome to capitalism. It's a shitty ride, but hey, you might, just might, but probably won't, become a millionaire someday.
@@nicoleb-r3033 Valid points. Glad you are so fiscally responsible with a good head on your shoulders and a good work ethic. Not all people are/were when they are/were 16 and some adults as well. And true, I have seen first hand where people can be downright rude to people in the service industry. Not appreciating what the workers are going thru and that they are human too. I personally try to set an example when at places where people are performing a service for others by being polite and using manners, showing understanding to the staff in hopes others will learn to do the same. Sorry for the wrong assumption about the possibly character of your younger self. May things improve for you and everyone in general. And may your life be blessed with more good days vs the not so much ones.🕊
Honestly. People are tired. No one wants to work because the pay is not matching what it cost to live. Minimum LIVING wage rn is 19.25 an hour. Actual minimum wage run is 15 an hour depending where you live it could be less. No one was to work 3+ jobs just to barely make rent. People are TIRED.
Seeing as both of Taika's parents work as hard as they do. And have Taika already learning about work ethic and helping him learn life skills even at the age of 5. I don't see them letting him out of having to get a "regular job" when the time comes. Esp. since both Bart and Geo have a good work ethic and would pass that along to him.
I am an older millenial with a 22 yr old. Graduated college and works part time as an online tutor. She is so scared to look for a "real full time job" even entry- level ones, also because she doesn't want to work in person. And she calls herself and extrovert (bs in my opinion). Spends most of her day on her phone, playing nintendo switch, drawing...squeezes in singing and guitar. Won't do any chores voluntarily unless asked. It pisses me off. I'm not saying move out; just find a job to build some skills and experience. In her room all day...only comes out to eat and use the bathroom. I wonder what I did wrong as a parent. Just no ambition whatsoever.
Yup they nailed it. Any job now is exactly like going to a Lamborghini dealership and expecting to buy one with a $20 bill, that’s not what a lambo is worth. It’s the exact same thing with labor, your can’t pay a worker $15 an hour and expect people to take that job because that’s now what labor is worth. When Steve was talking about sovereignty I think he meant he wants a truly democratic system where a billionaires Vote counts exactly the same amount as yours. As things are now, whoever you vote for, the only people really being represented are the billionaires and giga corporations. These are the people that over work you, pay you very little, give you little time to spend with your family and friends, and enough time to get a very little amount of sleep.
I came from Jamba Juice, Godiva, dentist assistant, sandwich shop, kitchen. Taught me the skills needed to go into banking and hospitality. Grind don’t stop baby.
Being anti-consumerism and questioning the normal middle class lifestyle is def something I relate to. We all gotta work tho doesn't matter your age or beliefs. Idk
I am still stuck in that phase or location where I make 6 figures and still live in the family home to split costs because I can't afford a condo lmao I can't even imagine living a life where I don't have to work to survive 😭
I'm 40 now, I run my own business but I still only work on that minimally enough to pay my bills and have a little left over for spending. I went through working for about 15 years before I started on this path and I never found a job in that time period what was willing to keep me on, instead of giving me a raise they would just lay me off with the promise that I would be called when they have work, and never called. I became frustrated and will never return to working "for" someone else, I'd rather be miserable and free than miserable and in servitude. That being said I spend my free time working on myself and a somewhat long term project that could change that situation entirely, financially, I enjoy what I do in my free time and whether I succeed or fail it will have been worth it.
my generations had the privilege of having mental awareness normalized, so i feel like that plays into it. also my dad's gen i feel, has had to realllyyyy hustle to even survive. now, it's like we prioritize living over survival. which, is sensible. its just the prioritizing that a lot of my gen lacks. we're allowed to use mental health as an excuse, whereas the older gens were given no slack or even a chance. older gens had to fight to even get a chance. it cud also evn be reputations? social media is so big now and everyone is so picky over where they work..
Also cost of living is going up and wages aren't going up That's like that in my city The job force is also getting more and more competitive too You can't even pay rent with minimum wage job anymore. You got get a skill to move out and have a comfy life. Maybe some cities it's doable
Hey so I’m 19 and relate to this. I stopped working just before graduation and then worked for a couple months at my previous job. I quit and was unemployed from September up until just a couple weeks ago when I started working again. A lot of it was this comfort in routine as much as I dreaded it but I had a lot of fear of being stuck in the same job for the rest of my life until just last week when I had a conversation with my friend that really helped me out.
People would work for basic jobs! It’s not about it being ‘beneath them’ but rather that these jobs don’t pay well, commonly under paid and or even don’t pay employees. US is F* cause a lot of jobs ACTUALLY rely on tips so why would anyone want to dive head first into that? In Australia, there is minimum wage but because the younger gen are more informed - they leave when they don’t get paid as promised. The younger generation have been shown where employees get used and abused so they have learnt where to draw the line - ‘quiet quitting’. There is so much more going on than supposed classism. Also, being a long service worker gets people BARELY any benefits so why would anyone want to work to the bone for companies that don’t care for them nor reward them for their loyalty?
And with how society is, the younger generation understand that they are most likely never going to be able to enter the housing market and live comfortably. They do not want to be slaves to the dumb system. They aren’t lazy, they are definitely depressed.
People just don't want to spend their lives stacking meaningless chips at a job that will do nothing but give you an extra .25 cent bonus per hour per year while the money you're making now is and forever will be below the median liveable wage in your area forever.
As a Japanese, its interesting how the rest of the world is just now beginning with this phenomenon of unmotivated younger generation. Japan already began this almost 20 years ago.
Problem is not the workers its the employers, if you treat them like nothing losers and dont give them good retirement options, your gonna get what you give. MY parents near their retirement were treated horribly and they tried hard to push them out before their cut off, now employers offer crap while cutting even benefits more and more, then ppl turn around and see others sitting on their asses in the stock markets making millions, kids of politicians making 450k from energy companies while smoking crack and sleeping with hookers, c'mon I dont blame them one bit
In our country we’re facing high unemployment rate for people who have higher education. It is more like for people who have HNDs and lowered to get employed without experience than degrees above. For degrees above we are expected to have experience etc but with the law businesses are required to pay degree salaries can’t afford to pay us, even if we’re willing to work lower paying jobs it would be questioned. I graduated in 2015 under media studies and during my last year in my degree I started my own business. Worked on my portfolio for 3 years and tried applying to jobs. During interviews, they considered my business to not count as experience. 🤷🏻♀️ I was able to do marketing, learned HR experience when hiring photographers. Built up good reputation and was well known from mouth to mouth recommendations. Did high commercial jobs and even covered for VIP events and was still not good enough to enter a “traditional” working force.
they should of banned smartphones and social media for people under 18. Life was hard enough growing up when your whole world was your hometown or neighbourhood, kids can't deal with having the whole world at their fingertips staring back at them.
I was honestly thinking, "For F*ck sake here we go with the whole older generation bashing the younger one" till I go to the 16-minute mark. I work 9 to 6 Monday to Friday and this is my first full-time permanent job I've had this job for 2 years now i started duning the pandemic not to mention I've been working part time in retail and hospitality since I was 18 years old I'm 22 now and And will be turning 23 But what's the actual point of working if I can't do the things I love if I don't get paid Enough to just cover my expenses. I'm not talking about being consumers. I mean cover rent, food, gas and electricity I had to start working part-time on the weekend just to make Enough I'm almost 23, and I don't want to be doing this until I retire. So I don't blame anyone who decides to just check out, and to everyone else that's still rolling up their sleeves, I hope it gets better
I feel like college debt and the difficulty of finding a high paying full time job has made it so that people who chase the "rat race" are not able to be that much more well off than their parents anymore, unless they go doctor or lawyer route, and I think young people are realizing that and its caused them to be less and less inclined to want to go to college or pursue a "traditional" career when its become more possible to hustle at other things like CZcams and make a ton of money that way.
Can’t speak for others, but as a Gen z when so many blue collar jobs attempt to squeeze the most out of you while paying you less than a Big Mac an hour, everything you want to buy is either expensive af or completely optional, and you have the comparison of so many others that have “made it” readily accessible 24/7, it sometimes leaves me with this feeling of “what’s the point?” “Why use my time on the planet working for a company I don’t believe in, where I’m expendable, doing something I don’t enjoy, for a 30 year mortgage, probably a divorce, and certainly taxation that doesn’t noticeably benefit my life?” I think it’s less an issue of work in particular, but a more general feeling of “the system doesn’t give me out what I want for what I have to put in.”
I’ve been working since I was 16 both for survival and because of personal issues I was having at school. Just like a lot of people in this thread already said, you end up seeing the true side of the work force whether it be on a construction site or a restaurant or even a retail store. Ofc this is my own story/experience but seeing my friends become depressed because of the situation they end up in after graduating without any form of work ethic makes you rethink if this is a game worth playing in the first place. I’m thankful I learned things earlier in life but I’d have given anything to be able to provide something more stable for not just myself but my family.
I’m 22, been watching you guys since 2014. Remember that the recession and the housing crisis happened when gen z were children. I’ve seen everyone around me struggle all my life.
I go to school and have a full time job and still can’t afford a nice apartment.
I’ve been working side hustles on top of my regular job for a while now and I’m constantly asked to do more and more without any sort of raise. I’ve told my boss but they always say “we’ll have an evaluation” or “we can’t afford it at this time”. Meanwhile, getting constantly disrespected by customers and choosing then at the end of the day having to choose between food or bills.
I’ve applied to many jobs but get ghosted more often than getting a single interview.
Places get a tax cut for having a skeleton crew, especially after Covid. And they’re still laying people off without a notice.
We’re not lazy and it’s not a “fear of being a loser” thing. It’s a corporate greed problem.
If I didn’t have to work everyday to survive I definitely wouldn’t because no matter how hard I hustle inflation keeps getting worse. We hear companies say “we had record profits” but no one but the CEO and the upper management will ever get the bonus.
How can anyone have time to actually live and find a spouse and have children if we can’t even afford time off, let alone the cost of raising a child?
Not to mention social security will be gone by the time we’re older and most of us aren’t getting covered by our works insurance.
Also, for that last part. How would you get dopamine from a hard days work if you know that it will never be enough to progress?
Unless the minimum wage is raised and a cap on rent increases is imposed, I don’t see how those who comes from a poor family just getting started in the rat race will ever be able to be secure financially.
Love you guys and absolutely no disrespect (y’all helped me through a lot of tough times) but too many media outlets do coverage on gen z to paint all of us as lazy or snobby and you may have fell for it.
Gen z “ being lazy” is the new “millennials are killing (insert business here)”. it’s just media catering to the boomers who are addicted to what I call “anger porn”. What better way to capture an audience than by having them think that they are better than every other generation.
I agree 100%
Well said! Exactly
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If you truly put in the hussle, I suggest you look into a commission based sales job. Yes you are right, making minimum wage, you will never be able to afford to buy a place. But commission sales will. Not like selling knives, but something like insurance, or mortgages, etc. I would offer you a job interview, but I’m in Canada.
Getting into commission only is scary because you don’t have the security of a guaranteed pay cheque. BUT if you are as hard working as you say you are, you will make much more then a pay cheque and you will have more freedom to do things you love because you’re not tied to a desk 9-5. This freedom comes later obviously. You probably have to hussle harder then a 9-5 job the first few years to get to that point. But it will be well worth it.
That was a banger comment
I don’t think people think the jobs are beneath them, it’s the fact they don’t pay living wages and a lot are poorly managed
This! And most companies treat u like a number and nothing more. Doesn’t feel good being just another replaceable body ya know.if I’m gonna spend so much time at work I’d like to be able to live alittle but life is expensive. There’s no loyalty for working years at a job anymore either.
@@megaMasterTimmahhh if you were to own a business, wouldn't you do the same? i know most of you would say you'll pay everyone a living wage but i wonder how true that is. like the boomers and gen x, my generations (millennials) have just as much survivor bias as anyone before them and i remember hearing these people complain about not being able to find a job in 2010. these guys grew up, built themselves a business and pay just as unfairly as the ones before them. with this knowledge, you guys are probably going to do the same thing, despite complaining about it now. you'll own a business through "hard work". call the next generation or the people you're hiring "lazy" and "unwilling to work for a living" and repeat the same crap everyone before us says, "i pull myself up from the bootstrap and you should do the same". you might not say it like this but you know what i mean. the same survivor bias bs.
This 100%!
I'll clean toilets, flip burgers, etc for a good wage.
I agree with a wage increase but what is the increase. The problem is with Gen Z is that they want a crazy number. You have to understand that businesses have to survive to hire and pay workers.
@@Dave_of_Mordor nice try
I think Steve hit the mark. I don’t think it’s mostly laziness or feeling like they’re above those jobs but people have already given up before starting. The price of living is so high and we’re pressured to hit milestones but now we can’t because of it. People want to buy a house, get married and have a family but it seems so out of reach and not being able to reach that makes people feel depressed and anxious. I think it’s collective depression and anxiety because of how expensive everything is and how people feel like they’ll never achieve their dreams without slaving away.
And even if you do slave away, there’s no guarantee that you hit any of those life goals which really adds to the depression/anxiety
The fact that "work" or "working hard" is something that the corporations have made the public think is the way of life is crazy to me. I get that it's needed for society to function, but to think that life should be mostly you working your ass off to have a meager living is beyond sad.
Amen
Hard work is what brings meaning to life. People did not start working hard after corporations told them to. You think Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel because a corporation told him to? Stop with the excuses.
@@mohmj6815 There's a difference between a passion that could also be work and hustle culture. Stop being ignorant-- or be I don't care.
@@mohmj6815 nah bro. it brings meaning to YOUR LIFE. your empty, pathetic life. i have so much more to live for than work. with that being said, i do enjoy working hard, but it does not bring me meaning. friends, family and hobbies should bring you meanings. if you don't have this and all you have is your job, in my opinion, you failed!
@@Dave_of_Mordor alright punk it sound like you're the empty and pathetic one here lmao
We are at that point in the game of Monopoly where there’s one person that is winning and owns everything; but then all the other players start rage-quitting because no matter what move they make, they are losing every single turn.
So what’s the point of playing the game if there’s no chance to win or survive?
Who is winning and owns everything? Are you sure you're not exaggerating?
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@@Dave_of_Mordor what a nihilist
@@Dave_of_Mordor The globalists and elites in our country. The head of the cia, the people who bribe the senators, the sames ones who keep who killed JFK secret after all these decades. The ones who make sure you'll never be rich if you do what society tells you. That's who.
I agree 100% with Steve as a 23 year old with a bachelors in kinesiology I’ve worked so many jobs boba, restaurant, bakery, ups during college and I have nothing to show for it. All I have is debt… we are pushed so hard to get a good education and you’ll get a nice paying job but how without more education and more debt. Not to mention college is at the highest it’s ever been in history. Let’s say I make 70k in California where does that go? I can afford a 350,000 mortgage but what can I buy? Not even a decent condo so it leads to the mentality of what’s the point for many of us. I’m lucky enough to have supportive parents to let me live without paying rent so I’m back in school getting another degree that will pay decently, but how about the rest of us who don’t have that support system. Just food for thought
Felt this same degree and the only reason I’ve “used “ it is for powerlifting and coaching I used to do . Other then that still in debt and still going to college for another degree . That they probably won’t asked for at a interview or etc
I was seriously thinking about continuing school, should I still do it?
My mom had a stroke during my senior year of high school (2014) so I stayed home to take care of her after high school and never went to college. The reason I wanted to go back now was because an event hit me hard recently that showed me how powerless I really was if my mom was to pass away. I am my mom's care provider, I get paid by the state to provide care for her (like a nurse). After my mom passed away I will have almost nothing on my resume. My family is super dysfunctional. I won't be able to rely on anybody. Should I still go back to school?
As a gen z male who dropped out of collage I personally have never had peers make fun of me for working a grunt work type job. I worked in multiple restaurants/service industry jobs. And multiple people I went to high school with actually respect me for it. Most of my town are minorities who’ve seen our parents work hard to provide for their loved ones. To be fair NJ is full of some of the most hardworking assholes out there. I can totally understand why most states don’t like us 😂
I think the not wanting to be a loser thing was more prevalent a few years ago. Now I think people don’t want those kind of jobs because they’re next to impossible to live off of. I had to work 2 jobs for years working in food and retail because I just wasn’t getting paid enough.
So you would rather not work and then earn no income?
@@DashDa5hgive up your sweat and time for very little money or keep all your time and energy. Tough choices.
@@hhyhnh9335 yep go to skid row. Ask them about their life choices and how they feel about being unemployed 🤔
I was at a park during the day enjoying nature and realized the only other people who could do the same would be the wealthy and retired. It's crazy how much of the day is spent trapped, whether at a shit job or inside of a car in traffic
then study automation. automate our world so we no longer have to work. you'll be the hero of humanity. our champion. you will be remembered long after your death. I'll tell my grandkids about you. I'll even exaggerate some parts to make you more heroic in their eyes.
@@Dave_of_Mordor oooooooooooor stop endlessly pursuing profit... usually for someone else's sake
@@maYTeus we can't do that. Even if I were to stop, the majority of my neighbors would not. You can't just tell us to stop doing what we've been doing for thousands of years. I was just messing around but your response was pretty immature
Some truth to what you said, but also, the cost of living does not meet earnings of minimum wage jobs. Hell, even some people with "steady" corporate jobs can't pay rent or buy a home in many cities. And rent is not the only monthly payment to be owed.
Very true it's scary seeing even some people that are very qualified working "stable" jobs being only paid 50k...yea its a lot but compared to the cost with school and even just basic necessities of life it's hard to justify that you live to work and not the other way around of working to live.
Also, most of us weren't able to just stay home during the pandemic. Working during the pandemic was straight up traumatic for a lot of us. We did years of that just to never get a break while everyone else got to stay home for months and start new hobbies and start new businesses. Students didn't get those big checks everyone else got because we were our parents' dependents on taxes. We weren't given any aid during the pandemic at all. Everyone was freaking tf out about covid and arguing while we just had to go into work and risk it regardless, hoping that people would be respectful and not get us sick.
Depending on what year you were in college, if you working while you were a student, you could have done your own taxes and gotten that money also.
If I were you, I’d do my taxes before March so that you can apply for financial aid. Deadline is March 2! Plus financial aid gives more than enough money for school. And then if they decide to give out more stimulus checks, you can start receiving them.
If you’re in college and not getting enough money from work I would apply for food stamps, you can be single and still receive food stamps.
I agree with you one thousand percent my daughter is older she's not a gen z, she worked during the pandemic, while co-workers didn't come to work and made more off the government then she ever could. She dealt with everyone's bullshit during that time as well.
@@GYSMelanie5 and your point is people should’ve come to work even if they can get Covid and potentially put their family in danger?
@Dennis Xiong my daughter, went to work every day to support her family. My point is don't be lazy and just want to collect from the government and not get off your ass and work. All this time later, they still aren't at work, so NO, that wasn't the point, and you saying it is, is ludicrous.
@@GYSMelanie5 So it’s people’s fault for being lazy and not that their work place treat them like shit by over working them and under paying them. Could it be that maybe people have worked hard but is sick and tired of how they’re treated?
I'm 24 spent my whole life working towards becoming an engineer. Graduated end of 2019, and decided to take a 6 month break as I was working basically full time throughout my studies since 15 and was burnt out. Then the pandemic happens, so I applied for 2 years with no luck now no one will hire me for my field and I'm working a shitty job.
What type of engineer, would you be invested in an internship role? Only $30 and hour though.
I graduated with a bachelors degree too and the struggle to find a relevant job to the degree is hard. However, lots of jobs (not related to your degree) will accept you because you completed it. And you’ll get compensated more than if you were fresh out of high school. That being said I went back to school because a masters degree is the new bachelors😂
@@Zhcwu civil im in australia though
I’m the same broski, just so hard to even get foot in the door without experience. I really learnt the meaning of its who you know and not what you know. Especially in these industries, just so competitive and you can be no different compared to the other 100 they interviewed for the role. Fuck it though just gonna keep going, see what life has for me.
How is that even possible? I thought engineers are high in demand
( 30 years old here ) Jobs nowadays offer no value to us. 9 hours is a waste of time for so little money. If they took away 3 -4 hours of the time and for same amount of money. You will see people flocking to jobs. People value times now, since we know we won't get that dream of owning a house or maybe get on top of the career ladder.
People want some control over their life. We also have dreams, hobbies and needs. Just shorting the hours down would release amount of stress and be able to do stuff while the sun is out.
I'm tired of getting up 5am and coming home at around 6pm and head to bed because I don't want to feel terrible at the workplace. This is tiredsome.
As a currently unemployed 19 year old (starting my first job next Monday). I can say that for me, I saw how unhappy my friends were working average jobs like fast food. Knowing I don’t want to put myself in that type of environment (angry customers and toxic managers) I went ahead and grew my resume on my own agenda by joining school clubs, doing side hustles and helping my parents. That same resume got me a spot on the job I truly wanted, police force. Granted I’m starting off as a police cadet because I’m not 21 yet but it’s definitely helping me step my foot in the door. As a now adult, I was scared of having that miserable 9-5 job my parents did and so I decided I could skip that part of I played my cards correctly
14:25 this is why gen z or any young generation is aversive to the older generation and thier viewpoints. They have this attitude of "you don't know any better". Just because someone doesn't agreee with your way of life doesn't make them stupid. They did live through it when they saw their parents go through it and contrary to what you might think, seeing a life you don't want to live is enough, you don't have to "live" thorugh it.
you cant deny experiencing something is completely different than watching it which is where the "you dont know any better" attitude stems. thats the problem gen z is facing, they are scared of going through hardship because social media makes people assume everyone just magically became these e-celebrities overnight so they believe you dont need to go through struggle to become successful. Young people try to adhere to the "work smarter not harder" mentality without realizing working smarter doesn't mean working less. I also blame first-world countries for becoming less religious/spiritual which makes gen z very short-sighted and focus more on instant gratification rather than working towards a larger goal knowing there will be struggles to get there. Another big issue faced by gen z is having main character syndrome which is a whole problem in it itself.
the reality of life is you need to have lows in order to have highs. you have to do things you dont like in order to learn and persevere, gen z can call themselves hard workers but it does not mean anything if they haven't done work. If I had to pick between a resume where one had work experience as a cashier and the other had no work experience, I would obviously pick the person who was a cashier because it means they have experience talking to customers than the person with no work experience who watched their parents go through that and got scared of doing the same thing.
@@copboom555 You're missing the point. Gen Z are weary of trappings of materialism and struggling unnecessarily. They're facing hardships all the time like people from any generation. The difference is they can't afford the stability needed in life to recover from a hard time or take any chances. And don't say "how can they know about ___? " because that's truly ignorant. Think about people that grew up around their parents being domestically violent or abusing substances. Do you think kids witnessing hard times doesn't effect their outlook? How would the know that heroin or an abusive partner wouldn't motivate them to become kings and Queens of industry? Sounds dumb, don't it?
@@Ludosukehero Quality of life is increasing and has been increasing, "...they can't afford the stability needed in life to recover from a hard time or take any chances" is simply untrue we literally live in an era where we can turn nothing into something with little to no capital and a ton of information is at our fingertips for free. Whether a person can recover or not from a hard time or take any chances is purely up to the individual, the difference is gen z has much more tools at their disposal.
I'll reiterate my point briefly since it seems like you missed the entire premise. Experiencing is different from observing, it takes experience to truly understand something, and undergoing many experiences builds a work ethic that gen z fails to recognize. There are tons of scholarly articles and statistics about active learning vs passive learning if it's still difficult to understand.
The point you're making about kids who experience broken households is true that it affects their outlook, I would go even further and say it affects their entire life. We typically see children either toughen up from those scenarios and build the drive to better themselves from it or see them fall into depravity and addiction and repeat the cycle again. I believe we should normalize the behavior that children in those situations toughen themselves to pull them out of that situation or do the best they can not the latter. Although, we are now talking about children who experience traumatic situations, not gen z.
@@copboom555 that's a lengthy word salad you tossed up there.
@@Ludosukehero I was expecting an ounce of maturity, either way, your loss.
Our generation prioritizes our mental health, work-life balance, & our time more than the previous generations. Life is short and passes by in the blink of an eye. What's the point of working hard & killing yourself for a company that doesn't care for you & being too busy to enjoy the 1 and only life you've got?
I agree and I’m Gen X. The only problem is there are no ideal jobs, opportunities, or ideas. You still need to pay for basics like rent or mortgage, food, clothing, utilities.
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Sure. But what good would their mental health do them if they're broke and can't support themselves. And who do they lean on when that inevitably happens?
Money and resources to live the life you want. That's really it - from a young millennial.
@Sandy Gonsalves a lot of the people working are still broke that's kinda the problem lol it's a lose or lose working in an exploitative job.
On top of that you have bosses that take advantage of hard working employees
Yeah the lack of labor law regulations in the states is crazy scary to me
Great episode!! Also, Steve is right on the money in terms of how people do work hard but still not making ends meet due to inflation or the current economic status. It is crazy out there. 😅😭😭
As a millennial I am considering taking this type of leave because my mental and physical health is at risk after working for 6-7 years in corporate. I've always had a job as an adult but with the past 5 years I already have high blood pressure and I'm worried about the physical toll that my mental health is taking on my body. I know I'm a good worker and I think workplaces take advantage of that. I'm really thinking about taking a gap year, changing industries, or even working a "chiller" job while I explore other options on the side. Because I'll tell you what life is short and I'm not trying to have a stroke one day all because of a job.
If it’s not a job it’ll be something else lie your shit diet maybe…..stop looking for excuses go to work and stop smoking legal weed
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@@OhGeeGanksta because after 2 months you already start to notice physiological changes and mental-emotional changes and if they aren't for the better then they need to go
@@OhGeeGanksta 1. Most of my close friends and myself are diagnosed so I was speaking on our perspectives a as ND peeps.
2. The people that I have worked with or near keep their jobs up until the benefits no longer outweigh the drawbacks, which happens very often nowadays thanks to the health and saftey risks growing daily. Plus the pay is usually not even enough to cover how expensive health insurance premiums are, so yes we would rather walk off and not take the job or quit then stress ourselves out just for it not to be worth it in the end
Old person these days be like I know like 2 people..all these other people I have no clue who they are. I checked my blood pressure other day, surprised it was really good lol.
Joe and Steve are right about the consumerism part... I'm an older millennial that started working at 19 and by 22 I started accumulating debt... and now I'm stuck in the cycle and it kind of sucks! It's too expensive to live on my own, so I help my family as much as I can, and when I date, I'm hoping for love of course, but also for a second income 😅
as a 21 year old gen z, we dont want to work because it’s literally all exploitive. minimum wage should be so much higher, ESPECIALLY here in california. we’re not being paid a living wage
Basically this. I’m gen Z ( 20 ) and feel the same. I want to go and contribute, but I want to do it in a none-exploitative and ethical way. I think most people are realizing that working is just that. We are doing it to pay rent and put food on the table. Nothing more nothing less. I’m doing what I’m paid to do. If I’m paid to stock shelves at a grocery store, then I’m gonna stock shelves. If my employer desires extra work outside of the agreed upon, my pay should reflect that. If I’m paid minimum wage, then my employer is gonna get minimum effort. Act your wage, it’s that simple.
I agree! 22-year-old here. Worked at a gas station while doing full-time college. 50+ hours a week, kept failing classes. Several robbery scares and didn't have a day off for two months. No, I couldn't even afford rent.
You are the reason we are fucking doomed you aren’t supposed to be living on minimum wage your whole life, work there a couple month and leverage the money to start a business or someshit. YEAH RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO DECREASE THE AVAILABLE LABOR TO SMALL MA/Pa shop Nice. 😂
Like buddy if you live in California you are already living a better life than 90% of people on this earth. and all you wanna do is complain.
When I feel like bitching all I tell myself is there person who is willing to kill for my position.
- as a 18 year old it is really scary seeing how people a little bit older than me are so lost within this money matrix. Like truth is buds if your income is not increasing faster than inflation YOU ARE POOR. And raising minimum wage is only gonna make it worse.
Here In Texas the minimum wage has been $7.25 for over 10 years, by those 10 years the price of everything has gone up because of inflation….except the minimum wage. I’ve worked both minimum wage jobs and more decent paying jobs, and any time I’ve had to take a job that pays minimum wage just cus I really need a job, i was making less than $900 bucks a month, I can’t afford to pay rent and a cellphone bill and a car bill and insurance with that. So why would I ever want to go back to a job that pays anything less than $18 an hour.
I haven't finished the video before commenting. But why y'all talking minimal here? Maybe if u studied harder you would've got into high paying jobs lol
I’m 18 working as a welder making 19 dollars an hour and I work my ass off too know everything I can about my job and how to push my self further and I’m starting to question if im even gonna make it in this world. just due to the fact that everything’s so expensive now an days I don’t even know if I’ll ever move out of my parents unless I move to a different province or buy a property way up in the middle of nowhere and build my own house. So I completely understand what the rest of my generation is feeling
People are not motivated to work beyond the minimum ! The cost of living is unaffordable. We can't buy a home with 2 jobs.
It's not that Gen Z doesn't care. It's that they can't afford to live in their own space with lower paying jobs and almost like why bother until you can get to a job with a livable wage.
Yet do they have the skills and education and/or knowledge to work in a job that pays a livable wage? Or do they need to work the lower level jobs to gain the knowledge and skills to work their way up to the better paying jobs? And what do they spend or invest in with the money they do have? Key questions.
@@bethnichols2875 Hey did you know that the minimum wage was made to be the bare minimum livable wage? Maybe read a history book, or better yet get an actual material understanding of the society and system you live in
I'm going to disagree with everyone in this video except Steve. The issue is everything he said is dead on especially with the lyft driver example. Gen Z and millennials don't want to work because they don't want to be exploited. The reason why they don't want those jamba juice jobs is not because they feel its beneath them its because they know that job is not going to pay them enough to sustain a living. Why slave away at a jamba juice or bagging groceries when they know from the start its not going to provide them what they need. Its like what Steve said with the inflation point. Homes, goods, entertainment, etc are going up when wages are stagnant. A lot of people cant even get full time jobs because companies don't want to pay benefits. Even if the minimum wage gets increased companies are only going to give full time hours and benefits to employees who have been there for around 10 years. The mentality is why work hard and push myself for little to no reward then get called lazy and unmotivated (which is most of this video is) for realizing its a bad deal. Its ridiculous that even if someone can get full time they have to deal with workplace abuse, manipulation from bosses, work some cases 50+ hours a week and still cant even afford a minimum living by themselves while out of touch cooperations are making record profits while those same companies claim they "cant afford" to give employees better wages.
This doesn't even include that there is almost no job security nowadays because despite you putting in the work companies will STILL lay you off at any point especially since it seems like every other week another company does mass layoffs. On top of all that its difficult to compete in the job market because cooperations are off shoring a lot of jobs overseas to exploit them for cheaper labor. You cant compete with someone who is willing to do a job for next to nothing in another country. They know the system is rigged for the top 1% and boomers who grew up during the golden age after WW2 because they were already established or grandfathered in. That is why most young people (18 to late 20s) don't want to work. It has nothing to do with laziness. They don't want to work themselves to death for next to nothing in return.
Nick was onto something with the onlyfans point. A big reason why onlyfans is so huge right now is partly because the dopamine effect but that's a minority. There is a massive loneliness problem because the relationship expectations for men (especially for income and looks) are insanely high and unrealistic. A lot of modern women nowadays wont even look a man's way if he is not in a certain tax bracket (mostly because of social media) and even if they did make that much money there is no legal incentive for men to get married/start family because of how rigged the family courts are against men. This is also one of the biggest reasons guys like Andrew Tate blew up the way he did despite all of his controversy . Why get married or date when the woman for any reason on a whim can divorce you ruining you financially (especially if kids are involved), god forbid falsely accuse you of something like domestic violence and/or sexual assault and destroy your reputation which leads to you losing your job, close friends and very often access to your children with no legal or social repercussions for her? Its a lot safer and easier to go to onlyfans or something similar to get fulfillment that way. Young people (especially young men) that know how screwed up everything is are simply choosing to not play a game they cant win.
How is that not lazy? I don’t want to work because there’s no point so I’ll just continue to let my family take care of me.
Yeah I want to know how do you survive with that mentality? Do you stay with your parents? Live in your car? You choose not to work does it affect your parents in anyway? Are they having to work harder or keep working so that you can stay home and enjoy living for free?
You think your family wants to work forever? They just do it because they have to, to survive. If you’re going to stay home, do you at least help out with a bill or something. Are you at least doing that? Or is your family well off that you don’t feel the need to?
Or do you have a good relationship with your parents that staying home isn’t so bad? And they don’t mind it? Idk man. I left my moms at 18, came back at 21 and left the next day because I just could not stand the rules. Imagine being over 18 and having a 8:00pm curfew and not being allowed to eat after a certain time. Rather live in my car.
In capitalism, everyone has to sell something to make money to survive (eat food, pay rent, etc). If you don't own any capital to extract surplus value out of other people's labor, the only way you can survive is to sell your labor power. Workers are in a perpetual state of trying to pay for their basic needs, while the profit employers make is directly taken from the unpaid labor of their employees.
It's more of a systemic issue, so unless we significantly change the system the broader attitude towards work won't really change
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I know a guy that works 2 jobs, lives with his parents, has had a decent work experience enough to earn at least 50k but can't, and still can't afford to move out. There's all these "Now hiring" signs because companies have to pretend like they're always hiring and "trying" when in reality they cut hours of their current workers and regularly do rounds of seasonal lay offs to save money and make their projected profit.
It's bizarre to me to see people blame the workers when sooooo many people come to the retail job I work at and then be turned away because we have job application posts out there, but aren't hiring.
In my opinion (21yo male in MS) I feel like there’s a lil truth to what y’all were saying. Some people do feel that certain jobs are beneath them but I think the main factor is probably people are realizing how underpaid/underappreciated workers are in certain jobs and that they should be treated more with respect. Just like if we are in a toxic romantic relationship, you gotta cut ties. So if work treats you like shit, then leave them Yes there are lazy ass people but I feel like the good workers are never treated like good workers, they’re just simply taken advantage of. I’ve worked a total of 6 jobs since the age of 17. My first job was at McDonald’s. I’ve worked 2 warehouse jobs and I’ve worked 3 separate jobs at a local mall. When I was younger, being at McDonald’s taught me a lot. I had to be responsible for so much shit, get bickered at, and all just to get paid pretty much minimum wage. I truly felt like hard work pays off but it doesn’t feel like it. Working at warehouses, it showed how depressed being a full time worker was living almost paycheck to paycheck. I was in school but being around adults with or without families, I didn’t want end up like them, no disrespect ofc. Also, as being gen z, we saw A LOT of millennials make a great living outside of traditional jobs. We saw people blowing up from the internet, on YT, or other entrepreneurial careers. We now feel like we too deserve more, that we can be more than the past generations. Every other person I talk to in my generation has some kind of ambition to create their own career. They wanna start their own businesses, and not have a boss that doesn’t appreciate them and wants them to kiss their ass. The generation before us showed us the things that are possible and some gen z people wanna do that and possibly even push the boundaries of what we can do. Some of us seek happiness over success as well
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind working a grocery store job at least made a living wage to where I’m not killing myself
We need a good and genuine Gen Z on the show, because as a 21 year old I’m hearing everything you guys are saying, agreeing and disagreeing but that’s what the boys do we talk and we grow.
same dawg i’m 19 and i work like 60 hours a week saving for a home down payment also living on my own (have roomates)
Work smart not harder. Always remember, if it's by choice then it's truly hard work, if it's by coercion then it's exploitation.
as a gen z, i am currently on and off with work. im still finding my career and want to move out of home but I struggle with staying at a job.
why do you quit? do you go home and play video games? work is the best thing anyone can do. and what you need to do should never be what you want to do. thats what men do.
Good luck, follow your gut
@@xTylerit depends. Some people CAN be what they want to be, but with work. That’s what MEN do. Work no matter what.
But a lot of us are still boys who give up early
@@george_MF_washington for sure, and no ones faulted for not experiencing certain things yet, but also not all people have the same tendencys.
I use to skip school and play the game but when it comes to work, work is the only place i even socialize. If I didn't go to work and decided to stay home, id just be playing myself out of any opportunities the day could have brought. Interacting with people is something people should take more interest. A lot has to do with social distancing. NGL interacting with people arent the same
My current goal is to unlock my way of thinking when I was a child. Say whatevers on my mind without the fear of being judged because cancel culture and people getting offended for OTHER people is only on the internet.
needs some guidance. thats another thing the parenting quality has lowered as well because both parents have to work full time jobs.
During quarantine, I got a Saturday job at a farmers market. I had a full time job as an urban planner but it wasn’t essential. Being able to get out and work at the market on Saturdays was a life saver (physically and mentally). I may be a weirdo but retail and service jobs are fun because it’s simple. I wish my current job had a 4-10s schedule because I would have another part time job. It also helped with paying off debt.
I miss my customer service job at 85C.
The store I worked at was close, and the job itself was easy. My current job is also pretty easy, but it doesn't pay enough and requires me to spend 2 hours a day to commute, but is the only job I can find that matches my experience level that pays more than minimum wage.
Retail and service jobs are simple but they are not all the same. Not to disparage you, because enjoying those jobs are fine, but I want to provide another perspective.
In highschool, I worked at Popeyes, a fast food chain. Despite it being illegal to work more than 6 hours during a school week, I was always scheduled to work from 4pm to 12am 4-5 days a week. It was nice money, sure, but this was during the pandemic when stores were beginning to open. Customers constantly complained and yelled because they were hungry and waiting for their food. It's simple but the experience is broad. Had to deal with so many homeless, druggies, and generally angry people. I seriously doubt that those kind of people would go to a Farmer's Market.
I'm 27, and here's why I don't go work.
I don't want a husband or boyfriend, I don't want kids. I love my parents, so I don't mind living with them. I work side hustles from home to pay for my everyday expenses and take care of my dog and save for when my parents retire, so I can take care of them, but I'm not saving for a house or for my retirement. When my parents pass, hopefully I'll be at an age where I can pass without leaving too much behind. I literally do not care about anything else or have any motivation for my future.
Lmao, I just finished watching the whole episode, and everything I said the boys also said. 🤣
Companies use to care about employees. They use to want you to stay. They use to pay you enough to stay with them, you could buy a house, have a family, go on an occasional vacation. Now what do we get? You get fired through a text message by your boss. My grandfather worked for a mill for 20 years and they gave him a diamond ring engraved with his and the companies initials. The position I just left. I was there for seven years and minimum wage caught up to the salary and that was it. You know what my last companies "career perks" were? 5 years you get a cup with your name on it. 10 years you get a backpack. 15 years you got a blanket and 20 years you got a company lunch. Where everyone else had to pay for themselves so no one came. What happened to family fun days? What happened to work retreats? What happened to bonuses for regular people? What happened to being able to survive? People blame Gen Z but what Generation is it that is running all the businesses right now? They are obviously running the businesses like shit. They apparently didn't learn how to run businesses. They think its just make money and that the workers are a completely expendable usage item. I'm 100% serious when was the last time anyone in the comments had a supervisor or boss sit you down to have a positive conversation about your future at the company? They don't do that shit anymore, then they blame the people they are screwing?
This episode was very insightful and eye opening since i remember guys.
What a great brainstorm you had here, great conclusions, wise discussions, broad arguments. I love it
I need experience to get a job but I need job to get experience.
Gen z doesn’t wanna work bc we became adults and realized there’s no way to pay bills working normal hours.
People are starting to know their worth now with all the information available on social media. Why work a 9-5, micromanaging, toxic customer service job that doesn't pay that well (even with a college degree), when there are many influencers around your age making millions?
I'm 37 years old and live at home taking care of my mother. In my opinion, that's my primary job, regardless of what society has to say on the matter. I also do occasional freelance writing gigs, and run my own small business that brings me joy, as well as provides a service in my community. The small business I run assists people with making purchases they may be going into without a comfortable knowledge base of, prior to the transaction (consumer electronics, computing, etc).
I have an associate's and a bachelor's degree, but my mentality kind of falls in line with this discussion. I have tons of retail and sales experience, but I see those industries for exactly what they are (air conditioned manipulation outlets for consumerism). The sectors I'd prefer to work in (communications, human resources) love to pretend they hire fresh blood, but they mostly hire those with the identical experience they're looking for from a rival employer, or it comes down to how good your networking is or has been.
These issues will not change globally until more employers hire based on best fit and character displayed during the interview process and probational period, and focus less on spreadsheets and algorithms which inevitably eliminate individuals who may work harder and better than those who make it into their office.
And I want to be clear, that I'm not approaching this issue with frustration, I'm merely expressing why corporations are struggling to find quality workers who want to grow with and in a company. Information travels too quickly for a healthy chunk of people who critically think to fall into cycles of 'going along to get along' or 'scraping by while metaphorically wasting away'.
My reasoning for not being too concerned personally, besides the obvious supplemental income I bring in, is that I remain persistent in applying to careers of interest, and continue to build my network regularly. But, I can empathize with how frustrating this can be for others without the understanding and tools to navigate these issues. The right opportunity will present itself as I continue to focus on the things in my control (preparation, mock interviews, impactful recommendations, networking, etc).
Sorry for being long-winded, but this topic brought a lot out of me, and I appreciate the perspectives shared during this discussion, from all parties involved.
I don’t know if they understand what it’s actually liek looking for a job now.
I applied to 70 jobs in a yeah and I’ll schedule interviews w them. I did in person, over the phone, Skype interviews.
I have decent experience. I applied to jobs I am qualified for. A lot of them have just ghosted me. So I’ll call and they say they aren’t looking for anyone atm…
Or I will hear for them a year later after I already got a job. They promote they are “hiring” but just want a list of ppl for when they do need them.
A lot of the times you get hired, get promised 40 hrs. Then you end up working 20-30 hours. They don’t want to give ppl benefits and keep people. They rather have temporary ppl doing a crappy job and barley keeping the business alive.
I’ve even applied to low end jobs like movie theaters, stores at malls and plazas, and even fast food places and have no problems working any “low job” and they aren’t hiring.
I applied to Costco/Target multiple times since I was 18 and keep getting reflected. I am trilingual, English/Spanish/Portuguese, and have no criminal record.
The only jobs that do hire when they say they are hiring are high turnover jobs like amazon and debt collectors. I work at both. I am very unhappy at my job and it’s very toxic. But I work my full time jobs because I have bills to pay and saving up money.
A lot of ppl my agar are experiencing the same thing. Even w their degrees and looking for careers not related to their degrees.
This honestly stresses me out. But I’m doing my best.
I don’t mind working tbh, I actually really like it, especially jobs that require me to move and be active but I think there needs to be a balance so people can work and survive in this economy but not have to kill themselves trying to do so.
Dude I'm bout to be 30 this year and I have 2 jobs planning on getting a 3rd cause I can't make enough to live cause I'm being screwed by the system I'm an IT for a school and I work in retail and I'm still negative 800 dollars and I feel like spending 20 dollars is wasteful like I don't spend on stupid shit I'm just suffering the system just sucks
God dam. I feel bad for you bro. 3 Jobs
@@rdxzero I just want to live man I felt like I did everything right and still getting punished for it
“We need those people to do those jobs for society to function “ 😹I don’t want it to keep functioning, not trying to work till I die ( I have two jobs tho :( (20M)
Ya they say they need these jobs for society to function but won’t pay us a decent wage, meanwhile they’re making record breaking profits
18 here. and ppl would be surprised how many genz kids worry about the world we are "adulting into". My high school was filled with many types of kids but i can slpit the school into two. 1. normal public school students really working hard and 2. the people that really don't fucking care. I think those two can classify almost any generation. I just think that this generation is trying really hard to change the norm and we are in the "extreme era" of this change. I believe that mental health is the main problem. i mean "happy wife happy life" and in my mind everyone is the wife. Even with the driving like Bart said they can uber or lyft now but what i hear is that kids are genuinely scared to get on the road (including myself). I think when the world was trying to "show the dark side" of a lot of things its just struck terror into most people and gave doubt for even the simplest things. I also think that the world phase of when parents said "you can do anything" really fucked us up. cuz it just sets u up for failure. I know so may juniors and seniors who were told that and now when talking with counselors and realizing that they cant do anything and that really depressed so many people and valid response (its like how some kids act when santa isn't real but bigger). I think how people are dealing with this wave is the chaos we are seeing today. That's just normal civilian life not even accounting for all the things the government contributes to this depression.
😤that was a lot lol I'm still learning more myself but i guess this is where my brain is at rn
well have a good day!
I recently heard about this girl in HS that got ptsd after she joined a climate change club, she became increasingly troubled to the point of a breakdown and had to be medicated. This generation has taken on huge, impossible causes and that powerlessness can be a scary thing.
I think you guys are too sensitive tbh... like geez youre crying bc they support you by saying you can do anything? Our parents beat our ass and said we will neverrrrr do anything bc were so dumb etc. The problem here is gen zz privledge
@@c.n.p.657 i talking about the parents that baby they kids and never give them actually advice. And hey I'm so sorry you got ur ass beat and you went through the world phase of "not giving a shit and social stigmas". If you wanna see a happy medium then u gotta experience both extremes to find the most tolerable way. Also, ps talk nicer when u tryna make a point. Also sounds like u still salty from ur childhood and you know what man take all the time u need cuz healin takes time.
You guys have another problem. American society is declining. Our government just hit the debt ceiling 2 days ago. If they don’t raise the limit by June they default on the national debt. That means retirement programs and pensions like social security will be the first to get cut. The economy will collapse and we go into a depression. Sorry for you guys. It will be extremely difficult to get by.
@@lil_rata6994 im not salty lmaoo im literally speaking the same way the ppl you watch on JKNEWSSSSS speak about their childhood. But thats what i mean w the gen z sensitivity its sm like chillll lol
People are waking up to what wage slavery is.
As a Gen X myself, I salute the Gen Z for not putting up with the crap my generation had to deal with.
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It's true, back then people didn't look down on mall workers regardless of age.
I worked at a department store in my teen years during the 90s and 80s. Most people I work with were boomers and they were there as part time workers so they can pay off there Bentleys, vacations , or summer homes.
90s: People HAD part time jobs to splurge.
Now : People NEED part time jobs (side hustle) just to stay afloat.
It is so frustrating as a disabled older person to see people squander all these job opportunities but I understand why people are struggling too. I cannot imagine paying some of the rents I see in cities like LA or NY, it is tough enough anywhere in the country.
I work at Jamba Juice and I love it. Starting pay is $18/hr, plus credit card/ cash tips with culinary union benefits. I literally bring home $1500-1800 every two weeks. Super easy job that pays well and all of the employees like it too. There are a few young new hires that never pass their probation period.
This video is awesome. Good to see things from different views versus just looking down on people who struggle in this area.
I'm a 24 year old middle class college degree kid who lives at home. I've worked full time jobs and am a hard worker. I'd work for Starbucks they would pay me 30-50$ an hour. If jobs paid better people would work. 40 hours a week for 15$ job that sucks isn't gonna cut it anymore if I don't need it to survive.
I'm 22, graduated last May, started teaching last August. I love my students and love teaching but the system sucks all around which I think all age groups are aware of. I still live at home but there is nowhere affordable to live at least not right now with my wage, I'll probably be at home for a couple years before I can try and find a place hopefully. It's truly tiring when the world is kind of against you, especially as a young 20s female POC. Plus Karen's and bad parents (since I'm a teacher) lol literally had to almost cps this month.
Btw not comfortable because yes I love my family, but if I could move out BEST BELIEVE I WOULD haha and the depression rings a bit true. (Just at that point in the video)
Steve ending this video with that tip joke was A+ 😂
I just don't want to work day to day with minimum wage. Also lots of us young people are joining strikes and sit downs because jobs like Starbucks take advantage of employees especially when they took away chairs from the breakroom.
I worked hard my job so they made it a point to take care of me. I started as a cashier working 1 day a week because I needed current experience in that field and was already working 3 other jobs. In less than a month I got pay raise and was asked to join the team and I said no because my other jobs paid well. They then matched my pay so I was able to just work one job and quit the other three. And then I got promoted again after 3-6 months. And now I working in the accounting office doing payroll with no college degree getting twenty something / hr
I made it a point to know every department of my store so that I am an asset to the company.
So all you people doing minimum work for minimum pay are just going to stay there with that mentality because you think you deserve more for doing what you’re paid to do.
There is no labour shortage in industries that pay their worker's fair livable wages. Productivity has steadily increased though the decades but wages have remained stagnant.
I’m 22 and have already bought into my parents’ business. the business is a dairy goat farm (400 milking head) and so there is a lot of grunt work and shift work that is perfect for the average teenager as a first job. being a young person myself I’m constantly upset and confused about how we struggle to find young people (my age and younger) to fill the positions. I live for what I do, but I know its not what everyone wants to do, they do it because they need to work so I try to make the environment as enjoyable as I can for everyone involved so that they want to come to work or are more willing to deal with difficult parts of the job. i love my work and do it proudly but at the same time recently I’ve realized that I don’t mention what I do as a trades job because of some kind of shame I feel, I have yet to know the direct cause of it but I think the general feeling can be attributed to the trades getting looked down on or there is little to no understanding due to the disconnect of generations not needing to work trades to survive and going to full academia, creating 2 extremes. For example, the number of times someone who has never farmed themselves or had someone like grandparent who farmed that have told me they think farming is simple is ridiculous and genuinely offensive at this point. The internet creates eco chambers and algorithms feed you exactly what we want so it reinforces your beliefs, but with how things are set up there is no way to bridge the gap between the 2 extremes online so it is left to being done in person. I personally think that now adays people are slapped with life and don’t know how to deal with a lot of stuff that happens as you get older (I’m constantly having to check myself too). I think young people being chronically online keeps people from developing interpersonally that’s why kids are more immature or have a younger mentality for longer in this generation.
I respect anyone who works and make an honest living. Regardless of the job. As a person who works in retail, just like workers in the food & restaurant industry, we get treated like we're not human. And look down upon by customers.
I’m grateful for social media because there really isn’t an excuse anymore. I used to work as a dishwasher with immigrant family I didn’t want to follow there footsteps so I decided to do side hustles like editing videos for friends and clients I didn’t want to work a “ normal job ” because I felt like my younger and older generation didn’t want to work as passionate as I did and make things easier so I listened to David So on a topic about toxic work environments so I left and now I’m doing way better mentally financially and more productive without having a family of my own or having toxic people in my life it helped me grow as an adult!!! SHOUT OUT TO DAVID SO BTW.❤❤❤
which episode was that of david’s?
I think because the generation before mine, pushed SO hard for college that they completely disregarded how important trade jobs are. Trade jobs can also pay extremely well/ just as much as a job that requires a degree. I didn't end up finishing college and I use to be really embarrassed about it, but my husband has a really well paying trade job and I've landed a well paying management job in a healthcare setting that only required on the job training. I think the stigma around blue collar jobs needs to go!
For me personally im mid 20s, im just trying get better at my craft and I live very minimal, I see working at like for example at taco bell is a waste of time(not as below me , it just doesnt help with what im trying to get better at), I can get by with my savings from my previous jobs for now by living extremely cheaply meanwhile I'm spend most of my time practicing my craft so I can get better faster and perhaps make more money in the long run instead of working a job for short term fast cash. It's like an investment in a way, an investment of skill.
As a Gen Z, Joe is mostly right on the money
Must be different in LA… because people work here in TX. These jobs yall call “beneath” us are not worth the pay… no one can live off of these low paying wages. Cost of living has gone way up and the minimum wage in TX is $7… kids are realizing these job are not worth it. Side gigs becoming main source of income, such as lash Techs, car detailing, nail techs, window washing, power washing, landscaping, Uber, DoorDash etc are now considered “entry level” not Jamba Juice or whatever tf
26 yo millenial, wanted to save my story for my internship at JK but i'll briefly sum it up, I been working since 16 & living with my folks for that long.
Just barely am I able to comfortably afford REGULAR luxuries of not checking the tab or the prices on the menu. 10 years of work and I'm in limbo of the ability to afford daily life but unable to make a big step like buy a house
The problem pay is to low and life is too expensive. I’m gen Z and have been working since I was 14, I’m 23 now .company’s don’t care about the hard working staff, you get treated like shit until you quit then they are willing and begging to do anything to keep you to stay.
One of the best talk you guys have had !! Def should continue this one and make a bunch of reels
This episode needs a part 2
I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that people look down on certain jobs. Even before social media, I remember working at a movie theatre in high school in 2005, freshly 16 years old, and being told by the manager of the theatre that it was important for people my age to work these jobs so that I could learn which kind of jobs I didn't want to work in the future. And then he told me to go to college and get a degree. So yeah, this isn't social media's fault. This is the classism that our society perpetuates. And I'm sorry but if you have a college degree, those jobs just don't cut it. Those jobs will ensure you stay in debt for the rest of your life. 15/hr just isn't going to work and it's even worse with inflation at an all time high. Companies need to offer higher pay and better incentives before people start working there again.
Perhaps the manager was speaking from experience in hopes that you, as an impressionable 16 year old would think about what you wanted to do with the rest of your life vs just what can I buy with my paycheck.
Btw, what the manager of the theatre said to you wasn't "classism". It was a gift of the person's knowledge and experience. Be honest, when you were 16 yrs old, were you the type of person who had a savings account and was saving your money up towards your future while living under your parents roof? Where they still covered your expenses and you were covered under their medical and auto insurance, with a roof over your head and food on the table and had clothes to wear? Did you see the job you were working as a learning experience to gain skills and figure out what you would like to work at in your future? Or did you just see that job as spending money for seemingly here to day gone tomorrow things aka the original working "paycheck to paycheck"? When my son was younger, I had started him a savings account, same as my parents had done for me when I was a kid. When he was old enough to get a job he wisely chose to put his paychecks into his savings account and would think through his decisions over whether or not something was worth spending his hard earned money on or if it was better to continue saving it up in the bank where it would accrue interest. Something to think about.
@@bethnichols2875 I had a joint checking AND savings account at 16 with my mom. I saved all of my checks I'd made and bought my first car as a junior in high school. I paid for my first cell phone and paid my own car insurance. I was also going to school, working part time, and taking college classes at the same time. So, yeah, I was pretty responsible for my age.
But that's really besides the point. Saying that 16 year olds should do this job so they can discover that they don't like the work is an insult to an adult who's working that job to pay for their family's needs.
It feeds into the idea that certain types of jobs should stay minimum wage because only high schoolers do them, when that was not the case. Not then and certainly not now.
And precisely because the wages are so low, people do look down on them. That's just an undeniable fact. Why do you think fast food workers, anyone in the service business, or the people working at Amazon get treated so poorly? Because people in white collar jobs think they're better than the people doing blue collar jobs.
Welcome to capitalism. It's a shitty ride, but hey, you might, just might, but probably won't, become a millionaire someday.
@@nicoleb-r3033 Valid points. Glad you are so fiscally responsible with a good head on your shoulders and a good work ethic. Not all people are/were when they are/were 16 and some adults as well. And true, I have seen first hand where people can be downright rude to people in the service industry. Not appreciating what the workers are going thru and that they are human too. I personally try to set an example when at places where people are performing a service for others by being polite and using manners, showing understanding to the staff in hopes others will learn to do the same. Sorry for the wrong assumption about the possibly character of your younger self. May things improve for you and everyone in general. And may your life be blessed with more good days vs the not so much ones.🕊
Honestly. People are tired. No one wants to work because the pay is not matching what it cost to live. Minimum LIVING wage rn is 19.25 an hour. Actual minimum wage run is 15 an hour depending where you live it could be less. No one was to work 3+ jobs just to barely make rent. People are TIRED.
Barts mindset on this is quickly going to change when Taika gets to that age and has the privilege of not having to get a “regular job” right away
Seeing as both of Taika's parents work as hard as they do. And have Taika already learning about work ethic and helping him learn life skills even at the age of 5. I don't see them letting him out of having to get a "regular job" when the time comes. Esp. since both Bart and Geo have a good work ethic and would pass that along to him.
Thanks!
Wow Zeus thank YOU so much :)
I'm interested in hearing their reactions to them reading some of the comments, I would love to see a video response, straight from the source.
great idea!
From one of us?
I felt when Joe said you can't romanticize a normal job. But also why not?
I am an older millenial with a 22 yr old. Graduated college and works part time as an online tutor. She is so scared to look for a "real full time job" even entry- level ones, also because she doesn't want to work in person. And she calls herself and extrovert (bs in my opinion). Spends most of her day on her phone, playing nintendo switch, drawing...squeezes in singing and guitar. Won't do any chores voluntarily unless asked. It pisses me off. I'm not saying move out; just find a job to build some skills and experience. In her room all day...only comes out to eat and use the bathroom. I wonder what I did wrong as a parent. Just no ambition whatsoever.
Yup they nailed it. Any job now is exactly like going to a Lamborghini dealership and expecting to buy one with a $20 bill, that’s not what a lambo is worth. It’s the exact same thing with labor, your can’t pay a worker $15 an hour and expect people to take that job because that’s now what labor is worth.
When Steve was talking about sovereignty I think he meant he wants a truly democratic system where a billionaires Vote counts exactly the same amount as yours. As things are now, whoever you vote for, the only people really being represented are the billionaires and giga corporations. These are the people that over work you, pay you very little, give you little time to spend with your family and friends, and enough time to get a very little amount of sleep.
I came from Jamba Juice, Godiva, dentist assistant, sandwich shop, kitchen. Taught me the skills needed to go into banking and hospitality. Grind don’t stop baby.
Being anti-consumerism and questioning the normal middle class lifestyle is def something I relate to. We all gotta work tho doesn't matter your age or beliefs. Idk
I am still stuck in that phase or location where I make 6 figures and still live in the family home to split costs because I can't afford a condo lmao I can't even imagine living a life where I don't have to work to survive 😭
You live new york or san fransisco?! 6 figure and can't buy a house????
Bro where do you live?
You make 6 figs, LOL. What a pleb.
@@maskedsol6103 Somewhere she shouldn't, obviously.
I'm 40 now, I run my own business but I still only work on that minimally enough to pay my bills and have a little left over for spending. I went through working for about 15 years before I started on this path and I never found a job in that time period what was willing to keep me on, instead of giving me a raise they would just lay me off with the promise that I would be called when they have work, and never called.
I became frustrated and will never return to working "for" someone else, I'd rather be miserable and free than miserable and in servitude. That being said I spend my free time working on myself and a somewhat long term project that could change that situation entirely, financially, I enjoy what I do in my free time and whether I succeed or fail it will have been worth it.
my generations had the privilege of having mental awareness normalized, so i feel like that plays into it. also my dad's gen i feel, has had to realllyyyy hustle to even survive. now, it's like we prioritize living over survival. which, is sensible. its just the prioritizing that a lot of my gen lacks. we're allowed to use mental health as an excuse, whereas the older gens were given no slack or even a chance. older gens had to fight to even get a chance. it cud also evn be reputations? social media is so big now and everyone is so picky over where they work..
Also cost of living is going up and wages aren't going up
That's like that in my city
The job force is also getting more and more competitive too
You can't even pay rent with minimum wage job anymore. You got get a skill to move out and have a comfy life. Maybe some cities it's doable
Hey so I’m 19 and relate to this. I stopped working just before graduation and then worked for a couple months at my previous job. I quit and was unemployed from September up until just a couple weeks ago when I started working again. A lot of it was this comfort in routine as much as I dreaded it but I had a lot of fear of being stuck in the same job for the rest of my life until just last week when I had a conversation with my friend that really helped me out.
People would work for basic jobs! It’s not about it being ‘beneath them’ but rather that these jobs don’t pay well, commonly under paid and or even don’t pay employees. US is F* cause a lot of jobs ACTUALLY rely on tips so why would anyone want to dive head first into that?
In Australia, there is minimum wage but because the younger gen are more informed - they leave when they don’t get paid as promised.
The younger generation have been shown where employees get used and abused so they have learnt where to draw the line - ‘quiet quitting’.
There is so much more going on than supposed classism.
Also, being a long service worker gets people BARELY any benefits so why would anyone want to work to the bone for companies that don’t care for them nor reward them for their loyalty?
And with how society is, the younger generation understand that they are most likely never going to be able to enter the housing market and live comfortably.
They do not want to be slaves to the dumb system. They aren’t lazy, they are definitely depressed.
People just don't want to spend their lives stacking meaningless chips at a job that will do nothing but give you an extra .25 cent bonus per hour per year while the money you're making now is and forever will be below the median liveable wage in your area forever.
i’m really glad y’all made this video. i’ve never really felt more seen and understood from the millennial/older generations.
As a millennial born in 1988, they said similar things about us 10-15+ yrs. ago.
As a Japanese, its interesting how the rest of the world is just now beginning with this phenomenon of unmotivated younger generation. Japan already began this almost 20 years ago.
Problem is not the workers its the employers, if you treat them like nothing losers and dont give them good retirement options, your gonna get what you give. MY parents near their retirement were treated horribly and they tried hard to push them out before their cut off, now employers offer crap while cutting even benefits more and more, then ppl turn around and see others sitting on their asses in the stock markets making millions, kids of politicians making 450k from energy companies while smoking crack and sleeping with hookers, c'mon I dont blame them one bit
In our country we’re facing high unemployment rate for people who have higher education. It is more like for people who have HNDs and lowered to get employed without experience than degrees above. For degrees above we are expected to have experience etc but with the law businesses are required to pay degree salaries can’t afford to pay us, even if we’re willing to work lower paying jobs it would be questioned. I graduated in 2015 under media studies and during my last year in my degree I started my own business. Worked on my portfolio for 3 years and tried applying to jobs. During interviews, they considered my business to not count as experience. 🤷🏻♀️ I was able to do marketing, learned HR experience when hiring photographers. Built up good reputation and was well known from mouth to mouth recommendations. Did high commercial jobs and even covered for VIP events and was still not good enough to enter a “traditional” working force.
You guys NAILED this video!!
When Steve made fun of Twitter and their meetings it made me think of when jkparty would have meetings and Steve would shit on it 🤣🤣🤣
Living minimal is the key. Dave Ramsey said it best.
Shiii i run a restaurant rn and people dont even want to apply in the first place
Damn Joe looking like the crown prince in a historical drama 😁
Realllyyyy enjoyed this video from yall
they should of banned smartphones and social media for people under 18. Life was hard enough growing up when your whole world was your hometown or neighbourhood, kids can't deal with having the whole world at their fingertips staring back at them.
I was honestly thinking, "For F*ck sake here we go with the whole older generation bashing the younger one" till I go to the 16-minute mark. I work 9 to 6 Monday to Friday and this is my first full-time permanent job I've had this job for 2 years now i started duning the pandemic not to mention I've been working part time in retail and hospitality since I was 18 years old I'm 22 now and
And will be turning 23
But what's the actual point of working if I can't do the things I love if I don't get paid
Enough to just cover my expenses. I'm not talking about being consumers. I mean cover rent, food, gas and electricity
I had to start working part-time on the weekend just to make Enough
I'm almost 23, and I don't want to be doing this until I retire.
So I don't blame anyone who decides to just check out, and to everyone else that's still rolling up their sleeves, I hope it gets better
It feels like we have the same lives, I just turned 23 and also have been working full time since I was 17. xD
I feel like college debt and the difficulty of finding a high paying full time job has made it so that people who chase the "rat race" are not able to be that much more well off than their parents anymore, unless they go doctor or lawyer route, and I think young people are realizing that and its caused them to be less and less inclined to want to go to college or pursue a "traditional" career when its become more possible to hustle at other things like CZcams and make a ton of money that way.
Can’t speak for others, but as a Gen z when so many blue collar jobs attempt to squeeze the most out of you while paying you less than a Big Mac an hour, everything you want to buy is either expensive af or completely optional, and you have the comparison of so many others that have “made it” readily accessible 24/7, it sometimes leaves me with this feeling of “what’s the point?” “Why use my time on the planet working for a company I don’t believe in, where I’m expendable, doing something I don’t enjoy, for a 30 year mortgage, probably a divorce, and certainly taxation that doesn’t noticeably benefit my life?” I think it’s less an issue of work in particular, but a more general feeling of “the system doesn’t give me out what I want for what I have to put in.”
I’ve been working since I was 16 both for survival and because of personal issues I was having at school. Just like a lot of people in this thread already said, you end up seeing the true side of the work force whether it be on a construction site or a restaurant or even a retail store. Ofc this is my own story/experience but seeing my friends become depressed because of the situation they end up in after graduating without any form of work ethic makes you rethink if this is a game worth playing in the first place. I’m thankful I learned things earlier in life but I’d have given anything to be able to provide something more stable for not just myself but my family.