How I Scan & Edit Film
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Scanning 35mm
4:31 Scanning 120
6:51 Scanning 8x10
9:08 Editing 35mm
14:07 Editing 120
guilty of the "hell yeah" ass slap
Same here!! Also you should collaborate.
Hell yeah
Fuck yeah I'd slap my ass watching that
Aren't we all?
Same.
My neighbor gave me a Nikon Coolscan 4000 he found on the street knowing I'm into tech and thinking it was an old pc. I bought a firewire card and it worked. That scanner sparked my interest for shooting film.
Great job man the best "semi pro" way to digitalize film
Imposter
Holy shit he just found it? LOL very cool dude enjoy the scanner!
@@b4rt89 better than the prime film xas?
wow that's the most unique way I've seen someone get into film
Baxter's appearances:
1. 1:00
2. 4:02
3. 17:15
Thanks guys,
See ya next time
Oh my god
Thanks again, you little and lovely bitch
A thank you
@@hecmca no hay de que
❤💚💙💜🧡💛🖤😇
I think this might be the best end card you've ever made. Literally the height of your work.
FYI: When shooting close-up, diffraction occurs much sooner than on normal distances. Becuase of this, shooting at f8 is probably going to be sharper than f11!
It's always crazy to see 35mm and 120 side by side. The 120 is so huge in comparison.
this is making me rethink last month's v600 purchase
like he said, if you aren't running large prints... v600 is more than enough.
Great purchase! Superior to DSLR scanning in every way except convenience. Imagine taking a picture of your medium format negative with a standard DSLR lens. Bottle neck extravaganca
Agree. Mine is 4 months old.
It stands dusting in the corner, because it scans like shit!
I googled now some info about the scanner. And it shows that the effective dpi is only 1560dpi... which looks believable.
It's also SUPER inconvenient!
Big oof. Horses for courses and all that, but if it were me I'd be looking around for that receipt/order confirmation and seeing if I was still within the returns period. Would you rather have something that only digitises your negatives or something that can do all of that but can also take photos?
@@yetanotherbassdude the set up in the this video is far more expensive than a v600. you can get a used v600 for under 200 bucks , that barely even pay for a decent stand for a dslr setup. If you have a perfect photo (that you want to get printed huge) and you are shooting 120 , you would probably want to send it off to get drum scanned any how.
Flipping the image in the edit indeed helps. Also, changing the background color periodically to black, middle gray, and white also helps recalibrate your eye to the image during the edit.
No film negative is the finished image. All negative films are designed to be printed onto photochemical paper. They might have been optimized to be easier to scan but that doesn’t change the fact, that if you’re after the inherent film look, you’re gonna have to look at analog prints. This is especially true for color negative film where the choice of paper or the way it’s scanned has at least as much, if not more of an effect on the way colors are rendered than the original choice of film stock. The Fuji Frontier does a pretty good job at getting colors and contrast to look like the image has been printed on photochemical paper. NLP has a LUT that can get you there in combination with the Frontier color model.
One tip for lightroom. In the sharpening tool you can choose what you want to sharpen. Just hold opt or alt on your keyboard while dragging the masking slider and you can sharpen more or less selectively depending on what the picture calls for.
Great video btw!!!
The flipping of the image to reset was great advice. Gonna try that.
I don't even shoot film, but this one tip made me glad I watched the video to the end!
almost $500 for the film holder is absolutely unreal lmao
Get an Essential Film Holder instead at like 1/4 or 1/5th the price & doesn't ruin your negs with the inner feeder wheels. No outer feeder knob on the EFH, but it's actually quicker without it. A great product from the UK.
I use a 3D printed frame that sits on top of a light box or sometimes my iPad with a blank white photo on the display.
I can send you the STL file for 35mm and 120 if you like
@@mpk33 agreed, it’s a fabulous product. Well worth the wait and the designer truly has a passion for helping people digitize.
@@jasonvanajek3307 Could I also receive a copy of the STL file?
@@jarmalmartis4050 look for me on Face Book and message me your email address and I’ll send it to you or email me firstname.lastname@gmail.com
That transition to the sponsor was smooooooth! Great vid! Thanks 😊
That flip horizontal trick. Mind. Blown. Thank you for that. I get in my own head editing so often.
That flip horizontally trick was super good, i know this works for drawing but never thought of trying it for color balancing. Thanks!
I know this is so minor, but I always admire the opening credits you make, they look so lovely. Not gonna lie, I've been considering DSLR/mirrorless scanning, but seeing the ease of your workflow makes me look at my V550 with disdain hahahah. And that flip horizontal tip was really clutch. Definitely stuffing that one in the cornucopia
Very excellent. The details of individual steps are great - it helps orient newcomers who can be overwhelmed by all the software and hardware options!
I’m addicted to your channel (and now Bad Flashes!). This was such a good tutorial! Because of your videos, I got hooked on film and am (as of today!) the proud owner of a Pentax 6x7 with the 75mm and 105mm lenses. Thank you!
Hands down the best tutorial style in photography. Thanks for this very helpful vid on this subject.
By far the most informative film scanning vid on CZcams. You cover everything, thank you sir!
"It's been long enough"
Honestly, i wish it was longer. I really lose track of my surroundings and merge with your work in the video.
Keep it up, i absolutely love your channel.
(Maybe it could be interesting if you'd upload longer and unfiltered projects on a second channel.)
I use the Negative Supply Basic carrier which is $100 and a cheap remote for my A7II from amazon for about $15. I can do a 36 exp roll in under a minute by pulling the film by hand between each shot.
I use the Essential Film Holder from Brit photographer Andrew Clifforth - £90 odd quid netted me 35mm and 6x9cm masks. It's glassless, no metal and works perfectly. Way cheaper than the holder you mentioned and works seamlessly. I scan with a Sigma SD Quattro H and 70mm f2.8 DG 'Art' lens. The Foveon combo has a 51mp equivalent resolution to Bayer and records colour at every pixel site. The usual daylight balance light pad and Negative Lab Pro completes the deal to swallow up what the Fuji GW690 MkI, Topcon RE Super, Leica M3 DS, Leica IIIf, Pentax SV, Ricoh TLS EE, Canon 50e and Canon 300v chuck out. Happy days.
i started focusing in photography from over a year or so and you just answered many many many questions i had and couldn't find a real answer to in photography in general so thank you
Glad to know I'm not the only one who likes to "crank dat Soulja Boy " with the sharpening lmao
Nice to see that Baxter is letting you share his editing secrets!
Really great presentation of information!
Smashing that like button for the Baxter appearances ;)
The flip horizontally tip is a great idea. Thanks!
Really enjoyed you editing, hope to see more of it
Amazing video. Compact, it does contain scanning work for all formats, detailed walkthrough all important setting and it is , as alway, very entertaining :-) !!!
Makes me want to play more detailed with my scanning process !!
Great video !
Love the paracord wrist strap hanging off that vertical setup.
You can also add some infrared cleaning in your raw dng. Then in the output tab under “Raw output with:” click Save instead of scan. Finally you hit save at the bottom
Dude this is an older video but I really enjoyed you diving into the geeky stuff. You’re a much better photographer than you let on and I steal a lot from your visual style haha. Keep up the good work!
For DSLR scanning print film, the type of backlight also matters a lot. I’d recommend using a RGB “white” light instead of a simple white led, which has a blue peak due to how white leds are made today. Other than making you a better gamer, a RGB backlight also better mimics an enlarger head because they both have RGB peaks and consequently better channel separation. Pro monitors also use pseudo RGB backlights for their superior color reproduction. I constantly achieve better results with RGB when scanning my negs, although slides not so much.
@Konstantin P. nah
I'm going to be re-watching this over the weekend
Many thanks, veery interesting to see a different and practical approach to scanning. Cheers Neil
Yooo Thank You For Uploading This, Bro
Dropping Pure Gems With Visual Examples
I've Been Contemplating Scanning With My Sony a7rii So The Fact That You Use One Is So Clutch!
I had to watch this video twice because it was so informative . I’ve only shot B&W over the years but your videos are inspiring me to try color again. My collection consists of a Mamiya 645 pro tl, Olympus OM2 and a Canon Canonet G-III 17. Thanks.
Handy tips - mask out your light box to format size
I use a lens hood myself
And use a accurate bubble level to set film
And camera true to each other.
Hopper inspiration is Excellent 👌
Million thanks to you my friend. One of the best blogger on youtube 👍🏻
Thank you for this fantastic Tutorial Jeffrey
I've always thought his name was Jason. However, nevermind.
This is so helpful! thank you Jason
Brilliant video Jason thanks man!!
Thanks for talking about effective resolution. It was helpful as I consider a scanner for 35mm negatives. New visitor, enjoyed the humor.
The 35mm scanner looks nice never thought about that since I'm having hard time scanning 35mm with flatbed :) cheers
Just discovered your videos. Your humor resonates with me. I think I love you.
Anyways, thanks for the tips!
More scanning video. Good to see the Fuji Blimp back in action.
This video has been super helpful, thank you
You can fluid mount 8x10 directly on the scanner glass to get rid of the Newton Rings. 8x10 on a flatbed around 2400dpi is insane detail and much easier then the stiching in photoshop IMO.
Neat-O. I will have to check if you have an update to this. I have an Epson Perfection V600 Photo. It can do 35mm and 120 with holders. No Newton because the holders keep the negs from touching the glass. It is fantastic. I have a couple RB-67's I thought I would never use again when I got hundreds, maybe thousands of rolls of B&W film from when a college library shut down their wet processing. Pan-X to the modern T-Max and Fuji and Ilford and several more. I do everything in Diaphine so I don't pay much attention to temperature and time. Since I also have their Jobo setup with a bunch of tanks and reels, I use it. I have a good changing bag and don't need a darkroom.
The results are really fantastic.
By the way, I bought a Coolscan and automatic slide feeder - which I had to make feed properly - on eBay. Scanned a couple thousand slides, sold it on eBay for what I paid.
such a good video dude. serious knowledge in this one
I have enjoyed this tremendously 😁
I use a full Negative Supply scanning rig with the A7Riii. Pixel shift will likely annoy the shit out of you unless your home has absolutely zero vibration. If my homes a/c is on or my dog is walking through the room pixel shift doesn't produce great results a lot of the time. It's quite sensitive to any sort of minor vibration.
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know that. Luckily, I live in a quite rural area a mile away from the next busy street, and I have no pets.
Well, this pretty much made your channel the best out there instantly. Cheers.
Thanks for making this A DAY AFTER I bought my scanner.
I've started doing SLR scans for 120 film. I do the same setup that you have but I take it with a Nikon FM2 35mm and then I get that developed and scanned at a lab
Dude this video helped me so much with my editing. Would you ever do one showing your B&W technique?
I totally agree about the fact that digitising is a developing (heh) thing. I have only just in the last few months gotten close to something I am more or less happy with. Won't bore with more details than necessary, but would recommend 3 pieces of affordable and one 'affordable monthly payments forever' piece of kit.
1) Can't afford a macro lens? Nifty 50 with extension tubes.
2) Pixl-latr negative holder - effective and cheap, and does 135 up to 4x5
3) Kaiser's bargain basement copy stand is far cheaper than other, admittedly slightly sturdier, models
4) Nikon D780 has the same auto neg scanning mode as the D850. It does auto inversion and creates a good looking JPEG, allowing me to digitise a whole roll in less than 10 minutes. Good enough for the internet and book sized printing. Thank you, Nikon gods.
This has been my favourite scan and edit video for film. Thanks Baxter's Dad
your commentary got me holdin my laughs in class😭😭 the main reason i follow you
I’m new to the channel. Great content & I really like the semi Steven Wright delivery you bring. I’m hooked.
well, i just found your channel, and with the absolute deadpan delivery on that taco bell joke i had to immediately pause the video, subscribe, and write this. your content looks amazing, keep it up!
Your opener slaps. Peak Grainy Days
I don't have a 35mm, but I can't stop watching your videos over and over again
Thanks for covering 8x10, and implicitly everything above 120 (including 4x5, and hopefully this comment will get you a few more hits on the algorithm for that, but 4x5 and 5x7 may be bigger audiences than 8x10). Those retractable sharpies are the bomb, but are you doing something photographically with them? ... beyond looking cool
The details on the LR steps was very useful to see.
Thank you for this!
This is super super helpful.
Thanks a lot! I am just in the process to decide how to scan my 11x14 LF material. There is only one flatbed scanner I know of which can scan that format (Epson Expression 12000 and earlier versions of it), which is very expensive and does cost used still over 1k USD, when you buy a decade old one. Or I use my Olympus digital camera with a pro prime lens and the 80 MP pixelshift mode. After your video I think my first try will include to buy a copy stand.
I recently bought a Coolscan! 35mm only version. I like it.
If you take a picture of a negative on color negative film... will you get a positive??
Fully analog scanning haha
Dude you might be on to something with this lmaoooo
Now I need to know what this looks like
I think you just described contact sheet lol
And yes at least with B&W it becomes positive (haven't used it with colour so don't know bout that but I assume so)
I actually tried this a couple weeks ago. Haven't developed that film yet. I can update when it's developed 😅
Yes, you do. Has a weird colour cast but I’ve done it before
fujifilm blimp is back, W. Also thanks for sharing your thoughts while you were editing, that's honestly the most interesting part of the artistry.
This is so detailed and clever, it would be interesting to see a comparison between the 35mm scanner and a DSLR scanned 35mm photo
There’s no comparison, a dedicated scanner is better. Plus you get automatic dust removal which saves tons of time.
@@joeltunnah I've seen many comparisons and a good dslr will resolve more detail than a scanner. Something like a sony a7riii with a macro lens w/ pixel shift
The big difference is in the characteristics of the light source. Diffused light can hide mechanical defects, a narrow strip of light emphasizes mechanical defects. Silver in emulsion does not allow infrared illumination to be used to clean up B&W images. It is better to have variety of devices for digitizing film.
Great video, appreciate some clear information about dpi
bro you never disappoint
Should be nice to see how you proceed with diapo like Ektachrome ! I always have bad results with those film and it's so frustrating !
Very nice work, as always !
Excellent!
VueScanTip for RAW dustremoval:When Scanning RAW the resulting RAW does not have the IR dust removal step applied, unless you have the right settings (he has not in the video).
So under the "Output" Tab change the option "Raw output with” from “Scan” to "Save". I think thats why he might has disabled the dustremoval option completly.
Wow! Very well done. Helpful. I am starting to scan with gfx 50s with their view finder rotating gizmo. VERY happy with results. I use Fuji 120mm and Pentax 645 120mm. Besides resolution the controls on the gfx are very analogue and just make the process smooth.
You mentioned sharpest lenses: mamiya 7. I never used that but the Schneider 110mm super Symmar f5.6 XL was fabulous and I still have not recovered from having sold it.
While I am on the topic, the Asahi Pentax f2.0 screw in lens was also dazzling. I was too new to photography and too dumb to realize what a gem it was.
Thanks for this video. Very informative! And fun monotonal monologue.
I am experimenting with a similar kit, the Pentax 120 Macro manual focus on a Pentax 645z, the same sensor as in the GFX. The size of the image file and detail is inferior to even a moderate tech Epson Perfection 4870 PHOTO with Silverfast 8.
The only way to get close to the 4870 is to get closer in macro and take two images for stitching. That is my next experiment. The 4870 has superior framing and fine curve adjustments, and outputs directly to the file you want without 'processing' RAW files.
I also tried an Olympus 20mgpxl with their 'stacking' HiRes feature. That file came closer to the 4870, but the stacking confused the grain detail, an even sharp grain often adding to the 'film' look. So, that was a wash . . . no good.
If the 50mgpxl with Macro upped to the stitched 'scans,' which will be done anyway when copying 6x12 negs, doesn't work . . . then, may as well just spend the $1500 on an good Epson upgrade to the 4870 . . . or, the 4870 with Silverfast is good enough . . . better than using a digital camera for 'scanning.'
Great stuff.
Great setup.. I also have the Primefilm for 35mm but I use the Epson V800. 6x7 film gets 33 actual megapixels at 2300 dpi from the Epson. I am not sure how the DSLR will stack up with this considering its losses for (i) different aspect ratio and (ii) bayer interpolation. But I don't have a DSLR...
My local library has that exact Epson scanner. Trying it out as I watch this
I use the same light pad! Except I modified it by the guts out and build a more robust light bed under it (using a 16x12 metal picture frame) it lifts the diffusion and I wired a bunch of RGB + Daylight & Tungsten LED to an aluminum base … it was kinda expensive and a lot of work but it makes an enormously high dynamic range white light, but I could jack up certain channels if I want to warm up the scan … would be interesting in B & W too. I scan with a Sigma SD1 … love this setup
To do this right you need to use high end LED made for film and television … high CRI 96+
I was not prepared for how funny this video would be
I have an unanswered question that just keeps bothering me: what sort of human beings dislike granydays videos? Who are those godd*nm 50 people!
Huge bravo for your channel; it's just one piece of wonder.
I used the Epson 4870 Photo (with Silverfast) for scanning up to 4x5 negs - not the best for 35mm - but great for medium and large format!
In Vuescan, i always set Preview already to the best dpi (4000 on my Nikon coolscan), which avoids to pointlessly rescan, thus saving you a good amount of time.
Thanks grainy
Waiting for my Valoi Film Holder so i can finally start scanning like a pro at home 🙌🏼
Thanks for recommendation of Primefilm :D
5:24 i just noticed you're flipping us off with the gloves lmfao - the little details
Great workflow.
I tether to my MBP so I don't need the 2 sec delay on the camera. And it dumps my images to my computer so I skip the step of transfer from the card.
I frowned at the cost of the Negative Supply holder and ended up with the Essential Film holder with a mask for 35mm and 120mm. It works well, no complaints yet.
Do you ever wipe the film with a microfiber cloth before scanning?
You did not mention if you scan the emulsion side towards the sensor.
Essential Film Holder is the best option for the price, and it covers both 35mm and 120. Also, Pixel Shift is a godsend for medium format, it really does work well.
Mate, the film holders are two different devices for 35 and 120
Thanks for that, very useful and informative 🎞 📷
I love you for this
I was literally just starting to go down the rabbit hole of scanning and editing film and I was like wow this is too complicated I wish someone made it a lot more simpler and with butt jokes. so thank you.
Very helpful mate
Have you ever tried to do camera scanning with the emulsion side up (which is the same as flatbed scanners with the emulsion side towards the sensor)? The image needs to be flipped in post but seemingly gives better detail.
I would recommend this also. Your lens will then be focused purely on the image itself and not through a layer of film. You will typically find this to provide an even sharper image. Just remember to flip horizontal in post.
"I can't wait to see what digital cameras they come out with next because, then I can scan my film better."
😂 I am dying
16:15 this tip is is absolute Gold!
While it is by no means professional, I have 3D printed a 120 film holder for DSLR scanning and it works really well! For a hobbyist it works great and I get quick, cheap, and easy results!