VW GTI The DSG is Nice - Don't get the manual
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2019
- Went from a 6-speed manual Mini Cooper S to a 6 speed dual clutch DSG Volkswagen GTI MK6. Is it as exciting and engaging on the weekends? No. Is it a much better choice for a daily driver that can still be exhilarating? Definitely.
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Hey mate. Thanks for the upload. You've solidified my decision with DSG transmission.
One question - What are the best mods to put on the car to improve power but keep the same fuel efficiency?
Cobb Accessport stage 1 tune! I have a video of it up on my channel, and also a Borla exhaust to make it feel faster by seat of the pants (sensation).
I got my gti in dsg after i had shoulder surgery. So i couldnt drive stick at the time. But i have no regrets. Especially after a stratified dsg tune. Shift arw lightning fast and just as much fun as a stick. I still have a manual car as well, so i can still enjoy either when i want
Great video man ! I’m thinking about getting a gti , currently have a Jetta s .
Thank you Brandon! I hope you subscribe :) Thinking of getting a Mark 6 GTI?
Should I Get It Reviews , yeah man I did , and either the mk6 or the mk7
Can you drive the GTI in sport mode without using the paddles
@@darrylmcmillan5655 yeah it just shifts higher than when it's in D
if you do lots of stop and go traffic tune your dsg to drop down to first gear. otherwise it stays in 2nd. extra heat extra wear
I totally agree, I live in Atlanta, and traffic is terrible everyday at all times. The DSG does a phenomenal job in heavy traffic; it will say in 1st and 2nd and does a fantastic job of modulating the clutch at low speed and creeping forward slowly. I did however get the DSG Tune to eliminate the auto-kick down in Manual and also prevent auto-upshift at max RPM.
Nice! Which tune is that?
-Ben
@@shouldigetit I had a local shop put an APR Stage 1 High Torque + APR DSG tune at the same time. I like how it displays D1-D6 on the dash now while in drive. RPM’s stay a bit higher in drive and shifts are super fast while in sport mode + manual as if the engine no longer pulls out timing and it slips the clutch a tiny bit. (Only under mid to high throttle)
Great video, I am exactly in the middle of deciding between DSG and manual
Thank you Niko! Where do you live? Flip a coin :)
What did u get
@@vicz7423 nothing yet, still searching for rthe ight car.
@@primitifsound get the manual, you won’t regret it.
Bro, just got the apr tcu tune to match my apr stg2 and boo, it’s mind blowing how they compliment each other!
I just traded in my '14 9th gen Si after 6yrs 78,000 miles of driving a manual and I went into a 2019 GTI autobahn with the 7 speed dual clutch automatic transmission. And I tell you....its nicer. It really is.
Oh man that is a big upgrade! Congrats! Very cool to hear you were able to get an Autobahn trim as well.
i drove both. The DGS is very good, but that manual is tempting. I'd say any shoppers should drive both. You can;t go wrong.
Agree! If I didn't live in LA I would have gone with a manual transmission.
If you don’t mind not being able to rev match very well and not heel toe at all get the manual because it’s virtually impossible to be fast with the floor pedal setup it has.
Question, I see u holding down on the up shift paddle, I’m assuming if u hold it it goes to 6th gear? Or the highest gear possible in the speed/rev range you’re at? Sorry if I m wrong, but does that mean u can hold down on the down shift paddle for it to drop down to the lowest gear possible?
It’s actually the fastest way to get back into Auto. Check out this video S2T Paddle Shifter Review for DSG Volkswagen GTI
czcams.com/video/dkMqZOeV4Vk/video.html
Many ppl dislike the manual simply cause they can't learn to use the gearbox...
I understand that. But Aleksandr if you take a look at my channel you’ll see that every car I owned before and after my GTI has a manual transmission :)
Forsure, if I lived in LA I wouldn't have gone with a manual lol, but I live in Ohio so I've always owned manuals. Only time we get traffic is from accidents, or construction 😂
Man that sounds nice! I actually ended up getting him in your car as my daily driver now and I still live in Los Angeles, but for the GTI I still do really recommend DSG in traffic filled areas. Thanks for watching Tommy!
-Ben
8 mile round trip that takes a couple hours hell man you couldn't pay me to live in LA
It needs a public transport ystem
question. when you are using the paddles doe it downshift to first gear when you come to a complete stop?
Yes it does Steve!
Just bought a DSG 7 speed GLI was wondering about the clutch, is it wet to dry? Seen so many different people saying it’s wet and others saying dry
It is a wet clutch, you'd need to change the fluid about every 40k miles or so
I have a 2015 gti dsg stage 1 tune and everything else oem perfect daily for me
im looking to buy a golf 5 gti dsg next year, is the fuel consuption okay or is it high??? And what mods would you suggest putting on it, that are not too expensive?
I have a few more videos on my channel about the mods I have. The fuel consumption was great for how fun the car is!
-Ben
I tried both and ended up buying the DSG, 2020 GTI
Very nice! What color?
Should I Get It Reviews I got the Iron blue metallic. It spoke to me haha.
Why not the manual? Good choice either way 👍
@@bm717252 a lot of people, and including friends of mine that have gti’s say that manual’s can not take a lot of power (like adding mods) because the clutch starts slipping. my friends dsg gti is 350hp which i think is mad for a gti tbh
Same
what’s this car like in stop start traffic? i heard the dsg clutches wear out in traffic. Is a solution to change to manual mode & just use the paddle shifters in traffic, so you can stay in gear 1?
I lived in LA for 2 years with this car and never had an issue. Just kept it in auto.
My decision for the dsg is solidified, thank you
I have a question, what’s the point of the paddles if you have sport mode? And let’s say your using the paddles and you floor it in 3rd gear and redline it, will it automatically shift to the next gear even if you didn’t press the paddle?
Great question. The purpose of the paddles is so you can control which gear you’re in rather than having the gear “guess” it. Sport mode does do a very good job but it goes based off the gas / brake inputs so sometimes you may want to downshift or upshift without change of throttle application.
If you floor it in 3rd gear to redline it’ll stay at redline - it will not automatically upshift
@@shouldigetit thanks so much this helped a lot. We have a 2011 Jetta 2.5 se (single clutch) auto, it does not have paddle shifters but it has tiptronic. If I use the tiptronic feature and max the gear out it’ll automatically shift for me even if I didn’t press up on the shifter and they made me hesitant on buying a DSG gti because I thought it would be the same way
@@shouldigetit but then again I own a 5spd rabbit and it’s so hard to choose between the manual and DSG for the GTI because I want them both😂
Can you use sport mode without using the paddles
Yup! It’ll rev out higher and hold the gears longer.
Yeah it is nice, I just can’t afford one. Even just the normal automatics cost quite a lot more than the manual versions in the UK
Good luck I hope you are able to get one someday or another dream car.
@@shouldigetit thanks
@@noaerrrcant believe buying a used car that it would make a difference, here its just by condition AND how badly the person selling needs the money-- dsg gti's for $3 grand no prob...
How reliable is the dsg
How would you compare the handling to a miata? Night and day or similar?
Weekday and weekend day :) They are very different cars and it's totally worth having both! The GTI is super agile and precise, which actually makes it a bit boring while the Miata is playful and can be more fun at slower speeds.
@@shouldigetit Good point! Idk if you have this but you should upgrade the rear sway bar in the GTI. It makes the GTI much more playful in lower speed fast turns and holds its corners around long sweepers.
@@YuStudios Thanks for the tip! I'll look into that. You in SoCal?
@@shouldigetit I wish. I'm from Toronto, Canada. @anothergti. Always down to help a fellow mk6 gti owner out
@@YuStudios you recommend any shops in Toronto ?
Manual is always stronger and a lot cheaper to take care of. It’s not the best for traffic but I still prefer manual
Same I just hate taking off first gear I been driving manuals and still it bothers me.
BoyinBlue Guerra what do you mean? whats wrong first gear
Dsg clutch will last longer and can handle more power less maintenance for a manual
@@kilovwdude6457 not on mk5. If you’re talking about mk6 or 7 May be yes
@@kevindodgersguerra2927 same. I hate first gear but like 2nd to 3rd. Beautiful. #Audi A1 TFSI
what is your fuel efficiency like in city driving or stop start traffic etc?
I’m pretty amazed by the consumption. In a full tank of 55 liters I get 530 km on a mixed circle. If I’m driving normal that is. If I’m heavy at the petal I get 400-450
@@ilarionastreos6823 bruh what i get 500 with a 1.6 fsi 😭
Nothing like a tuned DSG! The shifts get even quicker
Love your CZcams username!
I think lots of people from the UK would definitely disagree with you including myself...most people drive stick as you guy's would call it in the UK.and there is lots of tunner cars well in to the 7,8,9,1000bhp Manuel transmission...DSG is good for a track,but for a driver's car Manuel all day long.
I agree and the UK is very different from the US, especially the busier cities like LA. My Mini Cooper S was a Manual and my Miata is stick
I’m from the U.K. and after driving manual cars for nearly 30yrs I’ve just ordered my first automatic. Why does it feel like I’ve gone over to the dark side.
@@Cjbx11 you haven’t I have health issues but automatic has saved the day
@@Cjbx11 dsg is the only auto worth going to . You can actually control your gearing still and it shifts really quick, mush better than the auto in my 2.0 mk4. And the floor pedal setup it has makes it nearly impossible to heal toe in this car
@@HatsuneM1ku01 My car is a DSG and it’s really good. In someways I miss the manual but the auto is good.
Some people say manual cars are faster than automatic. I have a manual mk6 1.6tdi and some days ago i drove a 1.6 tdi with a dsg and it was a big big difference. Dsg is way faster i didnt believe i was driving a 1.6tdi. Smooth gear shifting.
I have never heard anyone say automatic is faster than DSG or any dual clutch however :)
Is the DSG on the 09 GTI Good?
I’d think so! I believe it’s the same unit.
What exhaust are you running. And is it a slipon or a full system. And for some one who travels a lot is a dsg better in your opinion?
Thanks for watching Stefan. It's just a catback system from Borla. I have two videos about it on my channel. Since you travel a lot I would recommend the DSG yes. Here's the exhaust review: czcams.com/video/65R0vgwihqc/video.html
Only if you live in LA or places with high traffic you should get a Manual
Agree, it would be great to have this car with a stick in a less traffic ridden area. Although the car I bought after the GTI is 5-speed manual.
Can you tune the manual version?
Yes! Not the transmission of course but the Accessport ECU flash works
@@shouldigetit do you prefer DSG or manual. Great videos btw.
@@evangelos949 Thank you! I hope you are a subscriber. In terms of DSG to manual, if you live in a non traffic ridden area I would recommend going manual. It is much more engaging and leads to more enjoyment experiencing the car. Thankfully I still have my 91' Miata with a manual and can enjoy that when the roads are open. Hope that helps!
@@shouldigetit I have a 97 built miata for the weekend, which is why I'm going dsg :)
Thought I choose wrong..ty
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Hope you subscribe
-Ben
You brought up some excellent points, especially the weak clutch setup on the manual MK7s. The DSG has a clutch pack bathed in oil, exactly the way motorcycles have been doing for a century (without the true manual control like a motorcycle), so there’s no doubt that DSG clutch plates may last longer than a dry clutch system with frequent fluid changes and care. HOWEVER, DSG servicing is expensive, parts are expensive, reliability is questionable and by tuning the DSG, you are also compromising those little friction plates of the clutch with added power / enhanced load cycles. At the end of the day, I went from a DSG MK7 to a 6MT MK7.5 just because despite the East Toronto (Canada) traffic (probably worse than LA), I missed the engagement of a manual. With an amazing array of aftermarket options for our cars, you can change the manual gearbox experience on these cars to be even better than the DSG. All my GTIs have been the easiest cars to ever drive in traffic, very light and forgiving controls. I’ve got a DKM stage 2 clutch and Single-Mass flywheel, along with an ECS Bleeder block, CTS short shift kit, BFI weighted shift knob, CTS intake, down pipe, AWE catback exhaust, EQT stage 2 tune on Cobb AP. Cobb AP also gives you flat-foot shifting and launch control on any tune, so lightning fast shifts are easily achievable with the manual 😉. The DSG is easily the original DCT box that has been developed for decades now, and there’s no doubt it’s one hell of a gearbox. Cheers !
Agreed, changing the fluid is very important, especially the first. I had a pump already from my previous VW and a OBD11. Easy DIY.
How tall are you? I'm 6'2. Will I fit comfortably?
I'm 5 foot 8 and was very comfortable. My 6 foot tall roommate was comfortable too. I think you'll be fine!
6ft2 here. GTI is one of the most comfortable rides I've ever driven.
I picked up my Mk6 GTI Wolfsburg edition over a month ago and I have no regrets going for the DSG (my first car). Theres a ton of manual Mk6 GTIs for sale and I happened to snag the last DSG one I could find near me. Manual would have been fun, especially for a youngster like me, but I am currently working 5-6 days a week and usually sitting in traffic on the highway so I felt the DSG was the most logical way to go due to my circumstances (I live near Toronto and always driving on the QEW/403, theres always traffic going towards Toronto... if traffic wasn't as bad I most likely would have gone for a manual). Love the way VW tuned the transmission to be smooth when both driving hard or driving like a granny. I've been in some other dual clutch cars and I definitely think VW/Audi tuned their DSG perfectly for all scenarios, compared to other brands DCTs. The paddle shifters come in real handy as well. Overall I really think I made the right decision, and to anyone reading this comment I'd absolutely also recommend going with the DSG transmission if you're on the fence about it. Glad I didn't go manual. Maybe one day when I have enough money I'll get a manual weekend car.
Slightly off topic but I might also go for a resonator delete on my GTI just to make it slightly louder without getting negative attention from civilians or cops (also the cheap way out). Plus louder DSG farts! Lol
can i use paddle shift in D mode?
Yes!
@@shouldigetit for example i already on D mode and drop gear with paddle shift..afterthat..just leave it in D mode? no need press or push something?
@Ronald ok2 tq bro
I'm worried about the DSG lasting in stop and go traffic
I always think, “what’s the worst case scenario?” Then if it’s not horrible I go for it. I lived in LA with this car commuting everyday for two years and had no issues.
How is ur dsg gearbox
Feels great and I'm still running Stage 1+
Have had any problems so far? Dsg tranny wise? How many miles on ur gti?
What model year is yours?
2012
I don't really agree, the DSG is only better if you do a lot of driving. I still prefer my golf R with the manual in it....
A lot of traffic driving*
LOL..you think traffic is horrible in LA? Come to Paris or Munich which is worst than traffic than one in America and 70% of cars are still manual. On a side note ..not sure why Americans are so against the public transport system like we have here in Europe. I love driving but it is nice when i can just take a metro or tram and don't have to worry about traffic and trying to find parking. Even when I visit my cousins 3 hours away I love to get on an express train and get there in 90 minutes
Because your public transportation options in Europe are actually nice and not filled with heroin junkies overdosing while trying to rob you like they are here in LA.
The DSGs are expensive to fix and I've read have problems.
Thankfully haven’t had an issue with it in a year or hard driving.
The new 7 gear is, this one is absolutely fine
@alelx jines so the mk6 get the wet clutch in dsg but mk7 goes with dsg7? Help, cozz I amGoing to buy mk6 gti probably?
@@PAKA757 Mk7 has dq250 DSG 6 speed wet clutch and Mk7.5 has dq381 7 speed wet clutch both are reliable.
Nah I think I’ll still with my 6 speed thanks tho
Well, buy whatever suits your needs but when you compare the manual and the dsg it's pretty clear that the dsg is a very good automatic and the manual is a mediocre manual.
I haven’t driven the manual. What makes it mediocre in the GTI Todd?
@@shouldigetit The linkage is not very positive and the shift knob is an odd shape. It's not bad but it doesn't measure up to a good manual like on the Civic Si/R.
@@toddstevens8506 Got it! Sounds like a few aftermarket mods could take care of that. Thanks for letting me know! I'll try to drive a 6-speed MK6 soon.
@@shouldigetit kk thx! I had a Mk6, great car.
My mom has DSG...
She’s a cool mom!
dsg seems more practical
That summarized it in four words, yes!
Test drone both both version, manual is useless as you cant even heal to with they way the throttle pedal is setup. Sits to far back from the brake and it’s that stupid pedal that coke up from the floor so it’s hard to angle your heal to it and press it. Since it come from off the floor your fighting leverage of the pedal where a traditional pedal that come from the dash your heal sits on it perfectly and your heal isnt hitting the bottom side of it. Dsg is the way to go in this car. The manual is nothing more than something ti cruis around in for this car, you literally can’t be fast with it
It’s not gonna be so quick when it brakes
You’re right! The brakes slow down the car Giovanni!
DSG holds more power than the manual?? Whatever you’re smoking I want it too
Where should I send it!?
I guess it boils down to the clutch and yes, out the box the DSG has much more potential than the OEM clutch system that comes with the manual.
Everyone who knows anything about this setup knows that
My manual 2020 GTI can’t even hold light stage 1 tune with mods without slipping. All my friends have the DSG and are stage 2 or even stage 3 with only a tcu tune. I need a 1600 dollar clutch and 600 dollar for install, vs a 400 unlock and 175 dollar tune.
I have a VW golf GTI 2012 model. All I can say is don’t take the dsg. Choose the manual version. You will save a lot of money. Trust me. I know firsthand.
Oh shit. I wanna hear what happened and how much DSG service cost.
2012 is old though...
What happened to your DSG?
@@shouldigetit hello. Sorry for the late reply. Various issues with the clutch disc. The only person that can perform a good work on it is the dealership because the clutch is connected to the vehicle computer and regulate almost everything automatically. Therefore, the mechanic must adjust/calibrate the computer system as well, and that is the work of the dealership, because it’s the only way that you will get a two year warranty on the part. And don’t put anything else than the original, no matter how much someone else will tell you that is better than the original. I should have went to the dealership from the start. Now everything is ok
@@ilarionastreos6823 Good to hear everything is okay, I hope you keep enjoying the GTI with less headaches!
Soft. Get the manual
Okay
Bruh don't be that guy
@@chad6876 Talking to me or Colton?
snoozfest. Ive had both DSG is boring and lifeless.
Both of the same generation?
@@shouldigetit mk 7 DSG, Mk 7.5 manual 👌
Nice! What area do you live in?
@@shouldigetit Melbourne, Australia
What a surprise American recommendation automatic majority of yanks can’t drive manual or stick 😂
You're not wrong that the majority here in America can't drive stick. I don't know where you're from so I don't know how traffic compares but you should know my current car is a 5-speed manual: czcams.com/video/geovEkfcfF4/video.html