Best tool for coping base and crown??? Dewalt DCS335B w Coping Foot for the Win
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- What is the best tool and method for coping baseboard and crown? In this video I give you my thoughts and some tips on coping base and crown.
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Intro (0:00)
Different Tool Options for Coping (1:07)
Production Trimmers Always Cut Baseboard Upside Down (3:36)
Cutting & Coping Baseboard with a Jigsaw (5:14)
Why You Should Cut & Cope Crown Molding in Nested Position (7:16)
Coping Crown with Collins Coping Foot on a Jigsaw (10:17)
How to Test Fit a Crown Cope in Nested Position (11:13)
Concluding Thoughts (11:59)
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Can you please do a video on coping PVC baseboard with the collins coping tool!
Best recommendation I have ever gotten on any tool. I absolutely love it. Its handy for everything.
HEY MAN, FANTASTIC JOB ALL AROUND. PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON CUTTING ACUTE ANGLES LIKE FOR WALL BOES ON STAIRS
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Spencer is there any difference between Collins and others that are hlf price but look identical?
thos saw wings are nice, did you custome make those or are they purchasable ?
Great job, I’m one of the old timers doing this by hand. However I’ve heard about this system and now seeing your video I feel it’s time for me to join the young troops. BTW. I’ve been doing it the hard way for about 50 years. Thanks.
I'm 33 bud and was thought using the coping saw and will I used a sanding disc on a grinder to tidy if needed
Wow, that’s a long time. I wish I could find someone with that much experience to work for. CZcams is the next best thing if you want to move up with your skills.
I hear you there Rob. I’ve been hand coping for a lil over 20years. I’ve seen this method a few times. The first few times they looked poorly done. This one however was clean and clear. Def makes me open to giving it a run. Take it easy woodchuck 🤙🏼
I concur! Many years of doing it the hard way. I like his coping jig too! Actually his whole setup is golden.
been asking for years "who is gonna do this work when we are gone"? glad to see the next generation. inovate and still love this work.very cool setup
So refreshing to a carpenter with great skills and who is able to intelligently articulate his thoughts. Great video, keep them coming.
I am the old dog doing this old way for more years than you have been alive and tried the collins foot, but now with your fresh ideas and showing a better way I applaud you. Great to see such a young talented craftsman taking the torch. A+
Great to hear!
Been a carpenter for 30+ yrs and hand coped a lot of joints. I got my Collins Coping maybe 20 yrs ago for a Bosch jig saw. It was a game changer, especially for crown mldg. I really like the jig on the end of the table to hold crown in the installed orientation for coping. Your videos will pass some great tips to new and older carpenters who care to better their end product. Keep it up.
Same
Who would give this video a thumbs down?? I am an old school carpenter for over 20 years and I do things mostly like what he does.This guy is great!! Just jealous I guess.
CZcams is brutal man. Thanks for the kind words!
You know who it is....it's either guys that are just so set in their ways that they don't want to hear it or just assholes that enjoy clicking the thumbs down. Gives em a charge of some sort.
Why do you cope a baseboard ?I cut 45s and put it together what am I missing g
@@Dani-ELmaninnoboxes Drywall inside corners are not always a perfect 90. Coping makes up for that, and it makes for much tighter corner joints. Get good at coping and you'll never go back to your old way of doing it. Personally, I can't wait to try the mechanical way of doing it. I've always used a hand coping saw.
Over 20 years isn’t old school. Try 40 then get back to us. I’m at over 50.
I don't do a ton of molding but I bought this setup a year ago after watching this video. Just used it on another job and it's a treat to use. Thanks!
I coped with a hand saw for many years, I got good at it, but I'm going this route from now on. Nice work!
I’m an old school carpenter. Always worked residential single homes. The company I’m with now is currently working on a fairly large condo/ hotel project. I was up in one of the units the other week and they are using the same technique. Very interesting. I haven’t tied this but don’t ever think you can’t teach an old dog new tricks! I may just have to give it a go.
40 yrs of carpentry and I cant wait to try this. Thank you young man. Glad to see it's not a dying trade like i thought.
Just sold me on getting the Dewalt. I still do most of my copes with a hand saw but I want to start using that jigsaw now. Way better
Great tip...I have been using a grinder for some time. There is always a time when you need the old cope saw and have to actually hand cut. Thanks for your great videos
I'm very impressed with your setup! Great video, everything is going cordless these days and I love it!!!
Coped a few in years past but once I got onto a flap wheel on a grinder I never looked back. But to each there own.
Great content, Thanks for your efforts. 👍
The best guide to coping I have seen. Probably best for those who have some experience, which as we all know involves a lot of frustration and resulting experience. Thank you!
Man that was by far the best explanation and video I've seen in a while. That set up you have there is pretty sweet too. Nice work.
This was really cool! I’ve only ever done coping cuts by hand and that’s been awhile. I didn’t even know this was a possibility until now! Great tools & tips!
I didn't even know that dewalt made that coping jig saw!!! I'm buying one tomorrow!!! Thank you and excellent video!!!
I just started doing crown in my house (first time working with it). All I have to say is thank you guys for sharing your skills on CZcams - I’ve learned a ton! This has been a great help.
👍 Stay tuned. I have a couple videos on crown coming.
I’ve been using the coping foot for a few years now. For production, I find it more efficient. And with the advent of a dedicated cordless coping tool, It will further enhance my production. I still own my first coping saw though 🤣
That's one of the coolest things I've seen in a while! Thank you!
Great video. Very informative. Thanks.
When I was your age I coped with a Coping Saw...always worked, always accurate...just never fast. Now I use the Festool Carvex PS 420 with a Collins foot
Bill Joel I’ve been using a coping saw for over 20 years and as far as production goes I am extremely faster than Festool or Dewalt. Some people can use them and some people can’t. Using those tools would slow me down, and way to damn expensive.
@@SuperDave44Mag I agree with you Dave, I have been building for some 37 years and my Dad showed me how to use a coping saw.. I started using a jig saw upside down probably 30 years ago which is what this Man is doing with the coping attachment. Its what one is happier with i suppose. Also on this side of the pond in Blighty its called a scribe for internal. Good video though and well explained by the young Man.
One factor that I didn’t talk about is the wear and tear on the body of using a coping saw daily for the longevity of a career. It’s a lot of movement, and the body does break down over time.
@@InsiderCarpentry Try framing for 30 years and then we'll talk body breaking down. Haha! I love it when I get a trim job.
I have found the various sized round chainsaw files work well for those little radii on some profiles.
Thanks again for all the videos. You've changed the way I work, Sir.
Nice. I learned the old way from my dad. If he saw this, he'd say that this was really nice!
Great video. I enjoy seeing your techniques and different tools for doing trim work. Keep the videos coming. ☠️
Genius love the jig and full set up. I may have to buy that DeWalt Coping Saw looks like it works great especially for production!
Another geezer carpenter here. I've also used the Collins foot and cut my crown and base on the miter saw as you do. But your videos are a terrific resource for younger carpenters. Thanks so much for keeping the craft alive.
That jigsaw with the coping foot is not in the budget but I still learned so much watching this. Thank you!
Some really interesting points you cover, especially like your extended table / fence for your chop saw.
Thanks for this highly instructional video. I am putting crown in my RV, and your demonstration is the only one that made coping clear to me.
Tight, well-done copings done quickly. Great job. I really like your chop-saw station set-up.
Awesome! It's so funny to me that this is a "Heated" topic. Anytime I learn something new or a new way to look at a problem I'm happy.
I really appreciate the effort you put into your videos. Thank you.
yes yes yes. I agree with all of it. Just one addition - that when i am coping the straight of the baseboard upside down i always undercut slightly in the same way the coping saw/jigsaw is angled. this just to allow a really snug fit if the walls arent perfect 45 degrees.
I’m in the same boat I learned with a jig saw and switched to peanut grinder with a 60 grit sanding disc. I like what you’re doing. Wish I had the time to make some videos . Much respect. Love Collins tool smart man
Love your setup, pretty cool & functional👍🏻
My go to coping to is jigsaw with coping foot, Milwaukee barrel grip😁
Seriously sweet table setup you have, good job
I was resentfull using these until i found your channel... really nice setup you got there, with your magnetic tape on the wing and the jig for the 45° for doors snd windows 🤯👌... Building myself one asap... Thank you
Thanks for your help. Really like the idea of you box jig at the end of the table. Wish I would have thought of that before. Cheers.
Loved the debate idea. Lots of good feed back. Inside miters make no sense unless you're doing it on cabinets or some custom build. Drywall is never true and angle finders don't give a true picture of what's happening beyond the corner. Cope insides, nested is faster so you're not constantly flipping the saw all around. Cut crown flat doesn't work on all crown types depending on the spring angle. Like the Collins foot . Been meaning to get one.
The Collins coping foot is great, I have one since last year
Cool video, as a new homeowner, I appreciate the advice since I will be installing crown molding as well as everything else I’ve already done. I Did not know I had cut out the ends like that! Right tool for the job is always a plus.
Thanks for that. I’m a coping saw guy and I usually carry two with one blade set for a pull cut and the other a push cut. That lets me do left and right hand copes more easily as I usually do my layout both for base and crown based on primary sight lines of the room. A spring loaded nail set is super handy and so are the spring loaded extenda poles that painters use. I’ll give that coping foot a try but I’m pretty proficient doing it by hand. Miter saws that have a 31.6 setting (Bosch, Makita) are great for cutting 45’s on crown laid flat. Nice cutting station 👍. Thanks for vid
That was a beautiful cope. Nice work
You should make a video about your miter saw setup. That thing looks well thought out.
I'm self-taught in a lot of ways but I just watched the other guys and what they're doing on the job site and they use coping saw and sandpaper and so I took it upon myself to learn it. Its a much more affordable option than buying that jigsaw w the coping foot. That being said, I would love to upgrade my skill set and progress as new technology and products come out.
Thanks for the new video! Really look forward to seeing videos from production focused pros like yourself.
Thanks! I love production minded carpentry. Stay tuned for more. 👍👊
And I thought alcohol was the best coping tool...lol. Great videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Dang funny
Nice!
No it's alcohol and weed
Heroin and bath salts
good one
This should be required watching for ALL trim carpenters.
Even us old guys can still learn from these younger craftsman.
Wear knee pads .!!
I used to make fun of the geezers wearing knee pads. 20 years later I wish I would have listened to them.
Probably even more important....wear hearing protection...
@@ottokriete1153 WHAT?!
@@caseydurrans521 never had that problem myself but I didn't play football either. lol
@@ottokriete1153 Yeah, I learned too late.
Very neat work. I've always used a coping saw and wish I was starting over having watched this !
Thanks for taking the time to make this and other videos. Good points.
Nice video. I would have liked to have a closer view of the cutting you did with the miter saw prior to coping.
For base, I've used the upside down cut, then finish with a Dremel with a Kutzall Burr. The cylinder-shape burr will give you flat and concave cuts. Very fast.
Which Kutzall Burr do you use for coping?
Thank you. You showed me a whole new skill set. I'm newly retired and replacing the mouldings in the house was on my mind but my first attempts were abysmal. Now I know the technique.
After hogging out the backside of the cope I like to use a cordless detail belt sander to finish to the edge but your technique looks great as well. Looks even faster than the way I was doing it.
nice video, I like using the 12v Makita with a coping foot. It is nice a light for an old guy like me.
When I make that upside down square cut into my cut I like to set the saw to 1-3 degrees so it falls away from the edge. Makes the cope a little nicer I think.
I could hang out with you all day, just watching you go! You are a trim rock star!
thanks for posting the video. I liked the coping technique and your jigs.
I never even thought about using a jigsaw, thank you!
One thing I noticed is that once you cut the bevel, you cut the line straight down towards the top where the profile is; I found you get a better fit if instead of setting the saw at 90°, set it for a back cut of 22°, it makes for a really tight fit
I just got the makita jigsaw with the coping foot . I ordered when I saw this video last week . Thanks a lot 🙏 I really appreciate it
Great video. I’ve used hand cope and grinders and jig saws. I have to get one of the DeWalt.
i am 58 and this video just proves that you are never to old learn a new trick or application
For the love of god keep these videos coming, extremely helpful.
Lots of butchers out there flapping their gums but as a pro myself I can confirm that this guy is a legit pro.
Use a 4inch angle with 36 grit sandpaper on fast and accurate
Man! I'm a novice at best when it comes to finish carpentry. Gonna try this approach. Thanks for the video and your expertise.
Good content Spencer. Doing baseboard, window/door trim and some crown has always been enjoyable for me. My father chased me out of the business years ago, suggesting another career path. But the smell of saw dust gets me going. I too use the miter saw for the straight cuts on coped molding but always used a hand saw for the copes, followed but files. If I ever get into doing more finish work, I'm thinking the Dewalt setup you have going there is the way to go. You always do a great job in your videos and ON your videos. I know it's a lot of extra work to produce them. Thanks. 👍👍👍
I don't swing the dropsaw/chopsaw back to 0 degrees.
I always go minus 1 or 2 degrees to ensure the face of the timber touch if the frames are out of square.
That’s a good tip. 👍
Yeah the whole time he was talking about setting the saw back to zero I was kinda cringing! Any inside corner greater than 90• will have gaps if you don’t back cut a little
This is why I read comments.., better advice than the video 😂
Good video 👍👍👍
I use a dremel with a sanding tube to fine tune the cope after using a jigsaw to rough out the profile. I clamp the piece in place with a quick clamp so I can hold the dremel with two hands. Works great and super fast. Use a small gauge triangle file to get in tight corners.
great video. very helpful and a pleasure to watch. thanks
Very impressive. Just found your channel and I’m learning a lot from you. Thank you!
I’ve been a joiner for 30 years
Your spot on about people back cutting loads . No good
Your doing it correct 👍
Shame on me!
@@paulrobinson5833
You're correct.
Can you do a video of your process of cutting crown and hanging?
Great demo. I use a Bosch barrel grip jig saw, D244 blade and the Colin's foot with a holder and good clamps. I also keep a grinder with a 40 grit flap disk to clean up any spots. Reading glasses really help and a few files help fine tune.
Collins for sure. I love the miter spring clamps too for outside miters.
Over the years I've tried to remain open minded and learn techniques that produce quality service and provide the customer an excellent outcome. I see this in every video you have produced. This attitude, and perseverance, will have clients knocking down your door for the service(s) you offer. Your style of instruction is spot on and is an excellent style that will speak to pros, prosumers, and hobbyist. My only down fall with viewing your videos---My tool account is dwindling. You are a wealth of information, keep up the good work.
Thanks for the motivating encouragement 👍👊
@@InsiderCarpentry m noI7
Awsome video!! Love the miter stand/fence. I'm sure you built it yourself? You sell the plans? Keep up the videos, very thorough.
Awesome job bud I hate doing crown molding because a lot of the houses I work in our old and nothing is square or true but my customers always seem to want it nowadays I am getting better at it but every tip I get always improves me you did an awesome job and I'm going to have to buy one of those jigsaws thanks
Dude, awesome! This helped me out a lot. I bought the collins coping saw because of this. Getting ready to leave my house and install epic crown. Thanks for sharing your knowledge man. May you have a lifetime of success!!
All I use is my husky coping saw. Never got around to trying the coping foot but hand coping is speedy with practice and the right blades. I use olson brand.
I agree, I can do it fast with a quality coping saw and don’t need the carry all these extra tools into the house.
on paint grade wood I just make the coped peices a little long and when you pop them in it marries up the cope beautifully
As a designer Furniture Builder, I have been using a coping saw for about 45 years. Tried several new tools to cope with, always went back to my coping saw. I also cope off a lowered blade on a table saw, extremely fast method. Now that handheld cordless saber saw with that round shoe, that tool looks pretty useful...... like your videos
Awesome. You’re right about larger copes and this will definitely make things easier for sure.
Awe man, I found your channel and it's awesome. Easy to follow and great tips. You're a pro! Look forward to learning and following along in your journey!!!
Glad to have you. Thanks for the support. 👍👊
I did restoration and renovation on an old apartment building for about 15 years and I installed a lot of paint grade floor molding. I'm not proud of it. Painter's caulk was my friend. At the end I had gotten a little fancier and I was measuring the corner angle and cutting the molding using that measurement. That substantially improved the quality of my work but not to the point that my inside corners didn't need some painter's caulk occasionally. I'm sorry I never tried coping. It wouldn't have gotten me another nickel a month for the units but I would like to have tried it.
So grab a piece of trim and try it.Coping practice like whittling a stick to a old timer keeps ya busy and builds your skill set
I didn't even know this existed, and today I almost bought the D grip! I'd rather have this!
I bought the D Grip but wish I would have got the Barrel grip, oh well I am going to have to buy that one too. Lol
thats a cool method i honestly didnt know they made a coping attachment for a jigsaw..... great vid mate love learning new tricks of the trade!!
Good job! I’ve been using the foot for years also. Love your saw table and jigs for the crown stop and coping. Would love to see the plans for the table.
Nice work brother. Great system. I am a bit of DeWalt ho myself. 😁 Keep up the good work.
Tool whore myself haha
I’m a dewalt man through and through! Still have a 12” slider I bought in 2005! Still cuts awesome!
Carpenter from Scotland here, glad I found this video, I recently installed Solid Oak 20x180mm base board, throughout a large home and it had a funky moulding, basically laughed at my coping saw lol.
I used a regular jigsaw to do my coping, really uncomfortable on your hand
We all get better through the conversation. Wise words sir
As always, thanks for showing us how it’s done Spencer. I agree that coping w/ a hand saw can take a lot of time w/ hardwood. I’ve used the upside down method to take care of the straight section. The cordless jig saw does a fine job taking care of the rest. The Collins foot (& your relief cuts) looks like the way to go for speed & accuracy. Didn’t know about the Collins attachment. Now I do - thanks to you.
Trim work is my specialty. I've always used a bosch barrel grip jig saw with a bosch 308 blade. It has the standard shoe on it which I hold onto as I make my cuts from the top side not allowing the shoe to contact the work. Its very fast and accurate. I never liked a coping handsaw, too slow and difficult. Not a fan of a grinder due to the excessive dust.
Consider giving the Collins coping foot a try. I think you’ll like it. 👍
My method also.... just started with the coping foot, learning as I go.
Mostly use a coping saw, (since 1974) .. my arms get tired quicker now though 😀, and the jigsaw has become a reality.
Nice job bud...love that jig ,but try the Bosch 12v jigsaw it works great to .
It looks really nice. I stick with dewalt to try and stay all on one batter platform.
Great well made video, you just showed this 70 year old carpenter a new trick. Thanks
I agree with you only thing is I run a Collins foot on a milwaukee 18v barrell grip jig saw
The battery life is much longer.
The Collins foot is awesome been using it for over 20 years
I've been thinking about getting one of those. I have the m18 D-handle, and it's pretty much worthless for coping.
Great video. 20 + years and always open to learning new procedures in carpentry. If you can take one new tip or trick from every video even if it’s something you’ve spotted in the background it’s what will lead you to become a great tradesman. Thanks so much for sharing your hard earned knowledge with us. Keep up the great work.
Wow, that Dewalt w/ that coping foot attachment really lets you control the saw. Which is what you need for accuracy during the cope. I’ve been using an older model corded Milwaukee w/ a flat shoe for real wood copes and a grinder for MDF. Great vid, thx for posting ! 👊👍
I’ve been at it for close to 50 years. I started, and still use, a coping saw and a razor knife (the old Stanley #99). Miter box... manual. My first power tool was a Rockwell 315 circular saw. Still have it. My next was a Rockwell 9" power miter box. Still have it. I’ve recently been using a jig saw for copes and a rasp bit on my drill. I do the same as you as far as upside down cutting base and crown, but for the straight cut I back cut the work a couple of degrees.
sounds like were been train by the same man
Nice tool but im going to stick to my angle grinder with a flap disk. Once you get used to it, it will make the job so much faster and it creates a nice tight joint