The Latest is Not the Greatest
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Sometimes method doesn't matter - and in fact, it can be irrelevant. Then why do we chase the latest and greatest method like our lives depend on it? Let's examine that problem in this episode of Erudite Magic!
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🕰️ Timestamps:
0:00 - Is the latest thinking "the best?"
1:05 - Method is irrelevant
2:13 - How to avoid buying trash
5:39 - Don's Magic & Books
6:27 - 2 questions I ask myself before buying
7:31 - Magic is a practical art
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Andre Kole once told me that “everything in magic has been done before, a hundred years ago.”
This is why I spend so much time reading the old books and magazines. The methods are solid, the tricks are good and no one does them nor has any spectator ever seen them.
Don’s Magic and Books is an invaluable resource for these books!
Great quote! Thanks for sharing, Jonathon 👍
I think this is your best video. I've had this same conversation with my buddy (also a magician). I love performing cups and balls which is as old as it gets in magic. I love performing Bill in Lemon another very old effect. Some young magicians will say I'm old fashioned doing those tricks but when I perform them I still get a great reaction from laymen. There's a new trick out every month but half of the new tricks out there are just a variation of what most of us already have in our collection. You are right the new method may NOT be better? Defiantly something to consider. Great video!
Thank you! Glad the message resonated with you 👍
I can’t get enough of this channel. Amazing!
🙏💙 Thank you so much!!
this is 100% awesome !!! everyone should watch this !!!
Thank you! 🙏
Valuable advice in this video! I definitely agree with everything you’re saying, and I would recommend those points as well. But….I just can’t help myself when it comes to buying new magic 😂
You and everyone else watching this (including me ✋)! 🤣🤣🤣
Great advice and our own library provide access to classic masters and techniques but marketing and advertising can get you as you said and every week there is a new book or trick. The reality is that without the basics you can’t grow.
That's right, Nancy. Hard to resist the siren song of the "newest idea," though 🤦😄
I like being eclectic and studying both the classics and new releases however by studying the classics you understand what makes those tricks classics and from there you can tell if a variation improves a trick, enhances it, or doesn’t add anything at all/worsens it. Presentation is of utmost importance, and it’s easy to get caught up in method. I am super critical of the methods that I select for my effects, but I also acknowledge that presentation means a lot as well. Good video. Whether it’s old or new, it’s all about your own self-expression.
Agreed about presentation - thanks for chiming in!
Great video - thanks, Jeff!
You bet, Richard! 👍
I love this. I ask myself those two questions all the time. Some friends will poopoo me doing that, and then buy, study, and do the new, shiny, thing. They eventually come back to the classic method. (And thankfully, I've had friends save me from the new, shiny, thing too.) Although the other side of that coin is, the friends that get the new, shiny, thing learn some good lessons because they went through the process of exploring a new method.
Absolutely! There are lessons to learn both ways 👍
Pertinent points! I enjoy yr channel. I'm also a book nut. 😊
Ha, thanks, Colin!
Could hug and kiss you :) Inside all of us there's a very inquisitive explorer who revels in the new finds. Thus, we all are sometimes happily stagnating in always getting ready. But you hit the nail on the head with one of your last statements on this post- "we should spend way more time performing our material than searching for the latest and greatest." :)
😄👍 Glad the message resonated with you, George!
You always provide great value, thank you. Any chance we get a video in honor of Darwin Ortiz?
Hey Shahin, thanks for the kind words! I've already done a video about his work, but currently no plans to do anything new. You can check it out here: czcams.com/video/m9mBlTdbgoY/video.html
As a hobbyist and not a working professional, method is important to me as far as the method has to be something I am interested in studying and performing. I agree that it doesn't matter to the spectator. However, I am likely not to perform a self-working trick regardless of its impact on a spectator because it wouldn't be as interesting for me to learn. If I depended on magic to provide for my family, I would probably have a different opinion.
My magic got way better, and more enjoyable to me, when I stopped following the hype train of whatever new knuckle-busting move was on the Dan and Dave website and went back to Card College. I can still do the Clip Shift, for instance, but never use it in performance, especially compared to something like a side steal.
Most of my recent book purchases have been the Kauffman reprints...new to me, but have proven to be classics. None of the recent new books have really piqued my interest.
Of course, being somebody who learns 99.9% of my magic from books, I can pretty much ignore 99.9% of the stuff on the Magic Cafe Latest and Greatest page...
Haha, good feedback, and it sounds like you have a good system working for you 👍
An excellent and thoughtful exposition. Bravo, Jeff I would agree on most points. Method can be relevant, especially if one is guiding the audience on the pathway of false solutions. I would defend the study of the "later" material. The modern treatments that stand on the shoulders of old masters can sometime offer a generational synthesis with substantive improvements (E.g. The Larry Jennings' snap double lift, or Al Koran's one-handed center tear offer innovative solutions that go beyond the original sleights).
Glad you liked the video. I don't think at all later studies proved unfruitful, but many have. Interesting that you brought up the Koran Center Tear. I played with that, but found it to be too fiddly and requiring very thin paper to make it work in my hands. I prefer the Osterlind Perfected Center Tear
I think we are on the same page:) Cassidy also has a one hand tear version that solves some of the problems of the original.
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This might be my favorite of your videos… and considering how much I've loved them so far, that's really saying something!
Wow, thank you so much, Owen!! 🙏💙
Just before I saw this I saw an interview with Teller where he said that "method is essential" but I could not understand his reasoning.
I'm new to magic but I have already seen top men in magic give contradictory advice and sometimes they seem to contradict themselfs even. I don't mean this a critique, just an observation.
A tip for a future video is to talk about Tarbell's books. Are they really as essential as some say? My guess is that newer books have kept what is good in them and discarded that what is not good or outdated. But I have never hold a Tarbell book in my hands.
Thanks for sharing what Teller said. I haven't seen that interview, but I would be interested to hear his thinking. He is one of Magic's great performers.
As far as Tarbell, there is nothing that has the same breadth, and I believe that's why it's stood the test of time. I don't want my reasoning in this video to be misconstrued as saying that only old stuff is good. However, there's a lot of reboxing old ideas with different props, different colored card backs, etc., And if you already understand the basics, you can change the props, plot, or presentational style to suit your needs. And that is where the value is
Cool video.
Thanks, Andre!
wise words!May I ask u what Doc Hilford is performing at 6:30? I have a poker chip routine and this one had my attention!
"Junky," and it's the OG reason for this video: czcams.com/users/shortsZIL4IvOEbWI
Agreed so far...
Excellent as always! I am trying to learn to be more selective with what I purchase. I have been a little disappointed with my last few book buys. Most of the ideas are just things I already had access to within the small library I already own or they are conclusions to ideas to tricks that you would more than likely have come to on your own over time. I’m trying to learn to be more creative and not rely on everyone else’s finds. There are a couple books I am going to buy that I need but after that I’m going to try and avoid the vanishing inc emails..lol. I’m not going to lie it will be tough
🤣 The struggle is real! Glad you're finding your way to use what you have and be more selective
Far less than 1% of new releases will be part of anyone's repertoire in 10 years, let alone 100. Classics are classics for a reason.
Indeed!!
do you have orion by phedon bilek and can you review it ?
No, therefore no 🤷♂😄
It’s supposed one of the best mentalism books, and your a mentalist that’s why I asked
@yoniberg1342 I understand. It's certainly expensive and exclusive, but I've already opined on the mentalism books that I think are "the best" (that have had a dynamic impact on my own mentalism performances and thinking)
Method is not irrelevant.
Some sound advice. So much we have on our shelves is just waiting to be rediscovered. 👏😊👍🎩😊👏🪄✨️
Thanks, Robert! 😃