How to Setup A Compact Derby Car
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- The Ultimate guide to everything within a compact derby car. Interior setup, engine setup, fuel setup, battery setup. Hope this answers many of the same questions I am always getting. Disclaimer: I do NOT know everything about a derby car, nor will I ever know everything. I only give advice to the best of my knowledge and experiences to help new drivers learn the basics.
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A quick tip, don't run your battery ground so long. what I do is clean one of the seat belt bolts/nuts and run my battery ground to that, then run the existing engine ground that used to go to the battery under the hood, and bolt that one to the underhood frame or body. Good Luck!
I love your videos bro you really know how to teach so people can understand
I wanna get into demolition derby I gotta get my license though
Who else watches a ton of derby videos but never has been in one lol
I have a pretty big group of followers that are fans of derbies, but have not drove in them. Many of them are driving in one for the first time this year.
This year will be my first. I'm building a 97 pontiac grand am
I'm still shopping for a car
Lol i drove in one two years ago. Was gonna this year but baby on the way.
Been doin it forever my first shut down was a sump line in my boat fuel tank and i believe. You should run your fuel lines in mostly copper except at the connections AND RUN IT THRU THE FIRE WALL lost derbys wirh my lines hooked up under my seat from outside
Also, I never use fuel lines under the car, too much potential for the car to run over something and rip them off. Also, it will save your lines that run through a hole in the floor from getting pinched when the floors get bent. I cut out the blower motor in the heater box, and run them through where the wiper transmission use to be.
thank you man. I got that exact pump and I love it.
What kind of fuel pump was it??
I recommend instead of going and buying a huge thing of wire from the parts store to relocate the battery ( it's expensive) go down to Walmart and get a 20 dollar set of jumper cables and cut the clamps off and pull them apart ...now u have 2 15 feet or 2 gauge thick wire to use for the relocate. found that out from a SR. derby driver parts store charge like 4 bucks a foot ..I priced it ,it was gonna be 68 bucks to relocate my battery to behind my driver seat and all it cost me to do it was a trip to Walmart and 20 bucks. highly recommended that route vs the parts store
Those $20 sets aren't thick enough to run you'll burn em apart if you have to crank your engine longer than 2 minutes
I ran in Illinois in the early and mid 90's. Derbies have changed a bunch since then.
very easy to understand your expalin
On returnless systems, the fuel needs a pressure regulator back by the pump, which will return fuel back to the tank. If you don't have it regulated, and the engine shuts off with the pump still running, fuel pressure will build and you will pop a fuel line and cause a huge fire.
i cant wait
Hope u win the next derby
Just a piece of advice run your hot cables through a hole in the firewall so that your hood doesn’t pinch it trust me it will cost you a whole heat
Me and my dad are building a derby car now. A matter of fact, I just got done working on it. Just stripping it out. I am going to make a fuel cell for it too. Thx for the help. What can I do about the radiator?
I am building a compact demolition derby model and this actually helped me also. ha ha
+IRONHORSE11M Glad it helped
00 welding lead works better for battery cables
Can you show how to do a straight pipe for a steering shaft?
The derbys in my neck of the woods are like incredible stock. Like 10% of the cars i see arent even gutted and some doors arent even chained. Like seriously all the interior is in tact for some of them. So its kinda cool cuzz u can just pick up a cheap o compact car, knock out the windows and headlights and ur basically done lol. But im gonna move my gas tank amd batter on the inside and secure the wires/hoses and that will give me a slight advantage
Most cars that come to our local events are the same as well. There is only a handful of us that build our cars to the max the rules allow.
What’s the fuels pump called I’m looking to get the same one??
So helpful !!! Keep making good vidz !!!
+Zachary Lenning Thanks!
I'm running my first camry do you have any tricks or tips for me
do you recommend transmission coolers for compacts
What do you use for tires, do you bring extra tires with you and rims? Do you put side walls or extra side walls over your existing side walls? And isn’t your radiator very vulnerable in the front of a car. Could that not be moved?
Thank you for the helpful video as well.
I always bring extra tires already mounted on rims. Usually try to bring 2 fullsize tires and 1 spare donut tire. I mount extra sidewall flaps on all my newer cars. The rad is always one of the most important parts of a car. Protect it well and try to break the other car's rad first.
DemolitionMissions Thank you, you were very helpful.
How do u move fuse box? Mine along fender of driver side
Use old jumper cables for the battery
what do you do with all the wire in the doors and wires under the seat to the shifter and parking break ? do you take them all out or just leave them in. Also should I run a fan in my 4cylinder focus 2001, running bone stock no welding aloud and wondering if I should run it. had to look back on this video for help lol
I unplug all the door wires if possible, or tape them out of the way hanging to the inside of the car. I leave all wires under seats. I cut the cable under the car for the park brake so it can not get caught if I run over a part. Does that focus have fiberglass core support? I know some did.
+DemolitionMissions believe it's hard plastic like that planned on switching it to the 2011 ford focus which has a metal one, supposedly ,read up on that on the We Crash sight
I just put a E2000 inline on my compact, and It runs a bit sluggish. Almost like its on the fence about wanting to die or stay kinda idling... Did I do something wrong? I use to have a sending unit in a bucket from a Ford tank. And when I hook that up, there is not pausing or stuttering at all.. Any idea?
+Effect2o Do you have a fuel filter with this one? Make sure dirt and rust is not plugging up this new pump. It could be that your new pump does not have enough pressure compared to the old one?
I do have a filter. I use to have the all metal kind, but after seeing this, it makes sense to have the clear plastic type.
From the reviews on the E2000, its suppose to have up to 45 psi. I think my compact was at 12. But not sure.
I will mess with it a bit more. Thanks!!!
Effect2o Have you figured out the problem because i have the same pump and mine isnt even pulliing gas from my tank, i have a brand new m&m boys tank and im not sure the problem
I never did. I had to go back to the old set up I used. A metal bucket with the original pump from inside the gas tank. I sealed it all up.
I got the E2000 running for like 5 minutes. then choked out. I think its not pushing enough pressure or returning too much. not sure. Im building a new car this year. I will try it again and see.
Have you used a Chevy impala 2002
I’ve had those plastic filters blow out before cause they weren’t rated for fuel injection
If you have it before the pump is shouldn’t pop.
If the cae is fuel injected couldnt u use the orignal fuel line for the high pressure pump
Yes
are you planning on moving the fuse box on the drivers side of the engine bay, or do you think it's safe where it is?
+Kevin Reynolds It is up next to the strut which in my view, is one of the safest places under the hood on a FWD car. So I will leave it and add extra padding and mounting to secure it in place.
+DemolitionMissions sounds good to me! was just picking your brain for potential ideas. it's amazing to see how different people set up cars so differently. good luck out there!
Whats the name brand/ part # on that fuel pump and how many psi? need to get one for this year
www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g3138
@@DemolitionMissions thank you!
I'm building my first compact do you use the factory ignition?
Yes for all stock builds
Could you use a set of jumper cables as a battery cable?
It is strongly not recommended. Jumper cables are not built for long term use of high cranking power, only a brief period. Once a car engine overheats, it takes a LOT more battery power to crank the engine over, which usually melts down the jumper cables.
Oh okay that makes sense. Thanks for the reply!
my dad ran a dem o few years back and left the dash in and made one hit and the car shut down on him and later found out that it was the theft system that screwed him
I'm building a 1997 hyundai accent stock class any tips?
I have an Elantra to build this year. It will be similar to yours
So I removed the dash in mine do I have to do anything to the wiring harness it is a pain in the booty and don’t want to mess with it am I able to just zip tie the wiring down car is stripped and ready to have the roll bar installed but the wiring is everywhere in the car am I able to just remove the wiring for the lighting in the car and not mess with the main wiring harness it’s my first time building a derby car I have a 2000 Volvo V40
moonwatcher123 gaming Since this is your first derby car, it is best to get in the habit of never cutting or removing any wires at all. I wrap all of my wires up into a big bundle, wrap them with tape and then zip tie that ball down somewhere safe. Be very very careful when I start dealing with newer 2004+ cars. Many of them will trigger security if you remove any dash parts. Something as simple as the radio, or control knobs, or speedometer and that computer will lock the car up. I leave the dash in every car to avoid the headache
DemolitionMissions okay that makes a lot of sense thank you so much for that info!
where you running at
what constitutes a compact car does it have to be a four cylinder or if it says compact on the title is that good enough
Depends on your local derby rules. My rules say any FWD unibody car. Some places do it by engine size, others by wheelbase length of the cars.
could i do this with a V8
vic
or 90s caprice
Some of the interior setup is the same. But half of this stuff only applies to compacts.
why do you not move the fuel lines inside the car
The factory fuel lines are usually in pretty safe locations under the car so I use them for simplicity of building my cars. I always check to make sure they are not rusty, or hanging down under the car to get caught on anything. BUT on full size cars, you need to move fuel lines inside, because the frame in the middle of the car can bend and drop fuel lines down. Compacts dont have a frame in the middle.
If you keep the exhaust under the car (no stacks) where do you recommend chopping it off, before or after the cat?
Depends on what car. Most fords need the cat to stay on the exhaust to run correctly even for a derby car. Most Chevy cars you can cut the converter off and usually cut exhaust under the driver floor area.
how long do u think it take to do a car like this from start to finish?
+Ray Tinell For my cars, which are very built, about 2-3 months per car. Unless I rush which only takes a month. If you went just the basics for a car build for stock class then you can do it in a couple weeks.
Thanks man.. U have some really good ideas.. N I like how ur cars r built. Iv been whiching ur videos to get ideas for next year when I do my first derby..
I usually take a week to build mine but since I've started builting its taken me about 2 month's and my car really only runs on 3-4 wires
How do u deal with ur radiator
Watch all my build videos on each car, I show all the protection and other methods added to the radiator to help it last longer
Does a 1991 Honda Civic hatchback. Is it electric fuel pump
Yes
I'm curious if you ran the 91 civic? how'd it do?
do the bolts for the gas tank go through the floor?
Yes for this car they went through the floor. But check out my newer build videos and you will see my modern "floating" design where my battery and gas tank both mount and stay off the floor. Faster to move and safer when the floor bends in a car.
DemolitionMissions ya, I want to do the floating fuel cell but cars not at my buddy’s shop so gonna bolt it the floor and rachet it, my first year running a fuel cell
DemolitionMissions what bolts should i use
Chris F The biggest strongest bolts that will fit for the tank
Can u go with a standard gas can
No, you need something metal that is safe. Anything plastic will break apart during the derby.
Who to crat a at van few driv
Following
What gallon tank is it
tommyj fishing I have 5 gallon fuel tanks in all my cars.
where's the fuel pump from
laweez john most of the vid you've showed on other vids
+laweez john I have one pump from Jegs and one from Summit. Like the summit one best, which is in the cutlass currently.
+laweez john Yup, most of this is repeat, but everyone keeps asking the same questions so I put it all in one video to link to future questions.
DemolitionMissions lol I noticed that to, thanks have fun
dang its about time i have been waiting #2ndcomment
so easy to bypass gm anti theift
how do you bypass the anti theft system on the gms I have 97 cavilear that has this problem been trying to figure it out?? tried lots of procedures
How do you bypass, just getting into derby’s and got a sunfire that keeps going into anti theft
what the fuel pump exact name
nvm
Anyone come here from derbyman 103 ?
Good guy, he is about 4 hours from me
Canadian car? Warnings are in two languages.
+Jeroen Merlevede It even has a button to switch the MPH to KPH
First
His wiring is gonna give me an aneurysm
Hey are you ok?