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- A complete guide to buying beginner woodworking power tools. If you haven't made any purchases yet, watch this before buying anything. Woodworking power tools can be intimidating but I will give you no nonsense advice based on my own experience.
We will cover the essential tools needed to build amazing furniture. Miter saws, Table saws, battery power hand tools, sanders, planer and jointers. But unlike what you may have read or seen online - you don't need a top of the line purchase for every item listed above.
I explore what is a good and bad buy from entry level brands like Harbor Freight and Ryobi. Also why I think most beginner woodworkers get bad advice on their first table saw purchase.
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I once heard the suggestion that you buy the cheapest tools you can get when you're starting out. If you break it or wear it out then you move up to better quality because it's probably a tool you use a lot. If it doesn't wear out then you probably don't use it that much and you didn't waste more money than you had to.
Thats fantastic advice Thomas
I like that philosophy. Because trying to sell an upper tier tool that you realize you don't need is a whole other kind of headache.
It works unless cheap tools means lower quality, like DeWalt stuff.
It is a very good advice. The only catch is that sometimes, you spend so much time trying to master a cheap tool to realize, it is just not accurate enough, whatever you do. That's what happened with me with a big table saw; I've took on the challenge to master it for 3 years, and was able to do nice stuff. Then I got the 735 Dewalt Jobsite Table Saw to realize I spent 3 years loosing my time to a saw that was never going to provide the results I thought could be achieved
Harbor freight method
"Sometimes it's the archer and not the arrow, my friends"
I second that.
That’s what she said.
most of the time that is the case if you cant do a good job with the most basic and crap tools then you are not a pro
Thank you Varun
Exactly. Whatever you're building today, someone built it thousands of years ago with a rock and a bone knife.
I got a few skills with tools but you can hand me the crappiest sewing machine and I could make a wedding dress over night!
"Sometimes it is the Archer and not the arrow my friends" I love that! And that goes for EVERYTHING. Great work my friend👍
I just watched 3hours of your stuff. Good stuff young man. I started at 17yrs. Old. I tell the story five 5 year Jobs over 30 yrs. . All in one; two; three; four man shops. I'm 63 and just now setting my own low budget shop in Idaho. I will revisit your channel
100% agree with 95% these recommendations! I used small and old table saws with plenty of success, but by when I upgraded to the Delta you flashed on the screen my life got way better.
Awesome
My friend Jeff, has been a carpenter for 50 years! Makes stunning custom spiral staircases, beautiful cabinets. He uses a table saw from the 70s.
Just got that Dewalt jobsite table saw. I agree, it's a great upgrade!
I’ve been watching woodworking videos on CZcams for at least 3 years now and never came across this channel for some odd reason. Stumbled upon the dust collection video yesterday and have been catching up on his videos since then. Either this guy is really underrated or the algorithms somehow thought I wouldn’t like his content but man this is refreshing, no bullshit, perfect amount of humour woodworking! Keep it up!
Glad YT helped you find the channel
Well, refreshing to hear someone actually give good advice on CZcams. I made my first cabinet for a client in 1979. I grew up nailing things together with my dad on a ranch. He had absolutely no idea what he was doing but we built stuff anyway. After that I went to work and became a carpenter. Then one day an elderly lady asked me to build a vanity for her and I did. Guess what, I didn’t even have a table saw. I owned a jigsaw, a drill and a 6 1/2” Skillsaw. I drilled a couple of holes in my saw, built a table and bolted that sucker to the bottom and built that cabinet. I built a bunch more like that until I got a used craftsman table saw. I had to clamp a board down for a fence but I did it. Yes it took longer but the cabinets I made really looked good and people keep asking me to build for them.
Long story but I ran a professional cabinet shop for years and studied furniture making at a place called The Primrose Center in Missoula MT. I still build cabinets and furniture and have learned leather working for variety. I still laugh at that kid making cabinets with a homemade table saw.
Try to buy decent stuff but don’t get hung up over tools. You can make a lot of nice stuff with what you have!
You said it yourself... "yes it took longer"
If you value your time, buy decent-to-good tools. If you don't value your time, buy dog shit or jerry rig stuff that no longer serves its original purpose. It's literally that simple. I don't have enough space on this forum to go in to it, but you're taking advice from a guy who has a shop full of the more expensive tools, and that's not a coincidence.
If you're broke AF and need a chance, do what you have to do to level up. I would never begrudge a man for that. Every apprentice carpenter on a job should devote *at least* 10% of his weekly paycheck to tools. If you can't afford a good set of tools after a couple months, your boss is underpaying you.
Fake Pseudonym - What was the point of your comment under his post? Are you okay?
@@pria7538 if it wasn't clear, it was to say that the advice given in the video was not that great. I am well. You?
@@fakepseudonym669 Except the comment that the first tool to buy would be a miter saw, (see my comment on that) I found the rest that he had to say very right on the point. I hope that you are not still assembling your cabinetry with nails.
@@pria7538 Yeah, I felt that way too.
I’m a GC and we also do a lot of trim and finish carpentry for clients. We use a combo of the dewalt table saw and a Festool track saw. The dewalt table saw has ripped miles of lumber and it impresses every time it just keeps going.
Which festool track saw do you use ?
I screwed a sheet of plywood to the top and made supports and I would use a a straight edge to make a fence and I built custom cabinets onsite for several clients onsite. I love my dewalt table saw. I had another one for years before this one but I had to give it to a buddy when I moved away and didn't have room to bring it. Great saws for onsite work
I have watched a lot of these "beginner" videos throughout the years. This is the first one that really hits the nail on the head for me! Quite precise about price ranges and expectations
Yes! He is really good at giving you the nuts and bolts while being realistic about what people are working with money wise ...
I agree. It was a good video.
Have you tried a hammer?
My first major tool purchase for my shop, when I was 17 years old , was a used Delta Professional cabinet makers table saw from probably the forties or fifties. It was eighty dollars with a new blade worth more than the cost of the saw. One of the features of this saw was that for miter cuts the blade remained fixed and the whole table tilted for the angle cut. At first I thought it was strange, however I discovered that the board being cut was pressed against the fence with gravity ,making for a beautiful cut every time. Eventually I thought it was time to upgrade to a newer saw with all the bells and whistles even though the saw never failed I gave the old Delta to my son. Boy I wish I had that old saw back, fifty three years later, but I'm sure he is enjoying it. The point is , like you, we don't need more than what works for you. And you don't always get good results from a fancy name brand tool. I'm still looking for good used tools with quality and safety in mind. Don't focus on name brands because of the name but quality you can usually spot, but you may never know until you use it ,some times we get burned . Very nice video.
Seen a lot of Ryobi hate - but I can thoroughly recommend their impact driver. I bought it when I had very little money because I needed it for a job. Used it heavily, daily, for a year, dropping it off of multiple first and second story roofs.
2.5 years later still probably the most used tool in my house. One battery charge lasts over 2 months with general house hold use - truly couldn’t be happier with it.
I've been woodworking since I was an early teenager. I'm on the leading edge of 73 now. I've built houses, garages, barns, sheds, furniture and cabinetry with the odd canoe, sailboat, rowboat and dory thrown in for variety. My grandfather taught me the basics of carpentry and cabinetmaking using hand tools only. Over the years, I began to use power tools and learned to adjust and maintain them to get the best results while speeding up productivity. A lot of my workshop power tools are old time Craftsman (Contractor Table Saw with expanded table and modified fence, old school cast iron jointer, etc.) These have been enhanced by using my abilities with milling machines and lathes to either alter or remanufacture parts. (The problems that some people have had using dado stacks with some Craftsman table saws was actually a pretty easy fix.) I have added a Dewalt 735 and love it. I do have a DeWalt miter saw that I have "tuned" and still use it for doing non-repetitive cuts. Repetitive cuts are done with a table saw and sled. A lot of mistakes are made by the woodworker and blamed on their tools. Taking the time to do things correctly is critical to good results. Take the time to plan, measure and set up before putting tool to wood. Power tools are great and save a lot of tedious, fatiguing effort, but can ruin a project if not applied properly. Take the time - you'll be glad you did.
This is great stuff! I have always said, "You soon forget how much you paid, but you will always remember the quality." Still, if the amount you think you need to spend is more than you can afford, you never get the tool. Nice of you to put the whole thing is perspective! Keep up the good work.
The Skil brand was baught by chevron and their new model had excellent quality as far as anyone can say. Rack and pinion fence that locks on front and back, integrated stand, and a steal of a price.
You probably should look into it, no need to trash them anymore.
Agree on this one. They apparently made some upgrades within the last year as well. Better quality, more cut capacity, and a taller stand. It can take a dado blade and it's just a solid saw.
I've watched a ton of videos about recommended beginner woodworking tools. This is the first one that I've ever "liked" and "subscribed" to.
It's also the only one I've ever saved to refer back to later.
Keep up the great work! (And thanks for the straight-up honest info!!!)
Love your videos because they are not biased and you always tell the truth about woodworking tools, techniques and materials, you had saved me a lot of time and money and I really appreciate it, wish you success !!
Love the humour. I'm new to DIY and newer to woodworking. Currently own a drill, driver, and circular saw. I was at a loss over what to buy next. This was very helpful. Thanks man!
Awesome glad it helped
As a newbie this has been one of the most useful videos I've watched this year. Thanks for the great advice!
Glad it was helpful!
I started with a factory rebuilt ShopSmith with a 4 inch jointer. It was a great all around work horse. Solid cast iron bed and fence. Held settings very well. Table saw function wasn't great, but by building a plywood fence box that fit over stock fence, accuracy was improved to within 1/64. Plus the fence had a outfield support, just 4x6 inches. Perfect for most needs. Down fall of the shopsmith as a table saw is depth of cut is controlled by height of table.
Subscribed when you said no one is sponsoring. Like a video without too much commercial intentions. Love your videos.
My wife and I literally burst out laughing when you got to the video sponsor.
wait until Daniel Rybin house flips is the sponsor of an upcoming video, you wont even see it coming until the bill is on your doorstep
@@Lincolnstww you must have me confused with someone actually successful 😆
Yea, dude got my subscription right there lol
Had to subscribe after that.
Yup, me too. I did hit the subscribe button
Wow, an honest buyers guide. So rare on CZcams. Thank you!
I am now 70. After 25 years of various iterations of a workshop, I have settled on my preferred setup. Crucial is a planer/thicknesser with a spiral head. If you get grain direction right, you can start sanding at 120 grit. This & a quality 14" bandsaw make up the core of my shop. I also have an old Dewalt chop saw with a quality blade that has worked flawlessly. A table saw is essential & I settled, for various reasons on the Dewalt job site saw; noisy but has never failed me & is capable of serious hard work & is reasonably accurate. I have also embraced the multi function table & the track saw. The track saw will revolutionise woodworking in the same way that the router table has.
Nice video, and good advice. I am fortunate and have been able to pickup good quality mitre and table saws as well as sanders and drill press. I do have the Dewalt 735 planer and I have a nice 6” jointer with a helical head. But I run into problems in that area on several projects, and rather than worrying about replacing my jointer or planer, I have made friends with my wood mill. He has an 8 inch long bed jointer and 24” planer, and for almost nothing he will run things threw for me. It would take me many, many years of projects to pay for either of these things for what it costs to use his. That and it is great to just hang out and talk wood and projects. Never underestimate what you can learn and money you can save by networking with other woodworkers. My experience has always been that they love to share their knowledge and often time to help other woodworkers out.
Haha, someone just sent me this video... thanks for the kind words! I can't wait to upgrade that saw one day though... ha
My crystal ball sees a sawstop in your future! Thanks for stopping by
@@Lincolnstww one day!! 🤞
Tamar is all time great! In a traditionally male dominant field, she is dedicated to her craft and crushes every facet of this art.
He is telling the truth. You are amazing!
With what you turn out on that Dewalt I can only imagine how much more amazing your work will be when you put a sawstop next to that new festool domino. :-)
“Sometimes it’s the archer and not the arrow” Love that life lesson right there. 😂
Thanks for this great video. Great advice.
thank you, because of you i went with Makita. Best power tools out there. there range is huge, now i have tools for woodworking, taking care of my landscape, fans, radios, lamps, coffee maker, etc... so much awesome stuff and all on the same battery platform. im so happy i don't have carry a zillion different brands, i now have one brand of batteries that work on everything i own.
I enjoyed your video however I own several Ryobi tools including a table saw and miter saw and they have served me well. I also have a Rigid bench top planer and Rigid planer/joiner. They are well built and easy to use. I'm just a hobbyist so I'm very happy with Rigid and Ryobi.
My GF bought me the combo pack of Ryobi with that gawdly huge plastic carry case they first came out with, back in the late 90s. Used them for everything as a storm chaser for over 20 yrs. Still using them today as I build a custom casting deck for my canoe now that I can enjoy retirement. The only thing I've had to do is buy batteries. I'd highly recommend them whether new or old to construction work.
Thats awesome
I still have some of the older Ryobi blue tools (18v) which have outlasted multiple newer tools. Cannot kill those things.
100% agree with you. I've been steadily buying Festool in the 10 years since I went pro as a furniture maker, and they're awesome. But I have an old, blue Ryobi impact driver that just will not die. I dropped it 20 feet onto a concrete floor not once, but twice, and apart from the bits falling out of the holder, it didn't even seem to notice. Replaced the batteries with the LiOn ones and they've also been going strong for 5 years or more. Just a great tool for a ridiculously cheap price.
Almost every single power tool I own was given to me by a relative. I have a 70 year old McGraw/Edison Circular Saw that is still in perfect working condition despite seeing tons of use, and a 40 year old Sears/Craftsman Miter Saw that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of a newer tool. But it still does it’s job. In fact, the only new power tool I bought myself was a Milwaukee M12 impact driver set, when I bought my home, last year. I appreciate videos like this, because it’s not often that I do spend money on power tools. But with the prospect of turning my garage into a hobby shop, I may eventually need to.
As soon as possible get a 3hp cabinet saw , It's the heart and soul of the wood shop...you will not regret it. Great vids. Thank you!
Alright, John, you hooked me in. Subscribed to your channel today and slapped that notification bell so I will be checking out your next video. After watching most of your videos, you piqued my interest. I like the humor and down-to-earth approach. And yes, the star wars references. Nuff said. Thanks for the content and looking forward to watching your channel grow John!
Thank you for the kind words Ron. Hope to see you on future videos
Awesome video, agree with everything you said and love the "Ryobi and up" thought!
Thanks dude
A year late but phenomenal video with quick and straight forward info. From the bottom of my heart, thank you!
Thank you, and after reading comments I agree! You are extremely unbiased and informative. I am at the 'jointer' purchase stage, thus info is very much appreciated!
Good video, brother! I already got the bench top jointer, but I got it at auction for like $40. I'll save up for the used 6". Also, really glad you helped clear up the confusion on what saw to get to enjoy a decent fence. I was looking cabinet saw to replace the Craftsman 10" I got at a yard sale for $20, but maybe I don't need that... At least not until I build my timber frame shop! 😉
Great advice video for beginners. I would also add to go with a 8 hole D/A sander VS a 5 hole version. You will get much better dust collection from it and dust collection is also key for abrasive longevity. Your sandpaper will last twice as long with good dust collection.
8 hole and sand nets, pure heaven
I’m just starting to get into wood working, found this channel by luck and I’m loving it!
Thank you for all the details!
You've got a new subscriber in me. Love the calm energy and pragmatic thinking you bring to these videos.
You make a lot of great points in this video! I have always hated the "buy once, cry once" mentality. I have always operated on "buy the best you can reasonably afford" and if you end up using the tool a lot, save up for a better version in the future.
That's a perfect way to sum it up.
Exactly!
this takes sooo much longer to say, though :)
I subscribe to this thought process except I borrow from friends first. And if I find I'm borrowing it more than a couple times, I buy my own and know if I want a more expensive one.
I agree, I have been in the WWing business since '79, purchase the best tools you can afford, garbage tools make your job harder. The better the tool the more enjoyable the work. I do not agree on the miter saw comment of the vid poster, every shop is different on what you build, in my shop, cabinet saw, miter saw and cyclone are used daily...
I watch a lot of project farm and keep notes of all the stuff he tests so if I ever have occasion to buy something i'm better informed lol.
Great video. I just got into wood working and it’s a bit of a relief to realize I did a lot of what you covered just by googling and reading
Where was this video 10 years ago when I got started hahaha. Great info that cuts the fluff and gets right to why you buy a tool.
Loved this!
I've been using my Ryobi job site table saw for 12 years now. It has a wide stance integrated fold-up stand, 31" right rip and will easily handle up to 7/8" dado. I've no complaints.
Yeah, I don't understand his apparent distaste for the Ryobi brand. They are great tools and I swear by them.
What’s interesting is the reviews for Ryobi table saws are pretty negative. Not exactly sure why but it’s steering me away from them. That said I have a Ryobi miter saw and I really like it.
That Dewalt saw is a beast! Bought an older model on clearance when I was doing a reno for one of my girls - I like that it had an imperial and a metric scale for the rip fence (metric is great when you need to “take just a little off”). Made some flooring transitions out of red oak and needed to rip down 3/4 x 6” boards to 1/2”. Ripped on edge with blade at full height and the saw never even slowed down. Just a beast! And that fence is dead on accurate.
I just bought the DeWalt job site this is good news
@@farrockawayboyz6881 I bought the Dewalt and love it. I couldn’t be happier. I took back the Ryobi , what a piece of junk. I could cut more accurately with a spoon
Nicely done and straightforward honest opinions. All of it makes perfect sense. Thanks.
I bought cheap in the beginning while learning and had to replace all the Ryobi stuff years ago. Miter saw was good but drills, circular saw and table saw were pretty poor quality and didn't last long. DeWalt, Bosch and Milwaukee brands have been good for remodels and rental house stuff. Definitely worth it imo. And the cordless advice was spot on.
I recently came to the same conclusion that cordless sanders are not worth it due to dust collection hoses. Thanks for the thoughtful explanations and snarky wit. I look forward to your videos.
Thank you Lance
I went corded simply for price. It was $90 for corded vs. $180 for a battery-powered one. Not everything needs to be cordless and half the price always wins in my books.
I find the idea of a cordless sander to be silly. A sander is one of those tools that you run for extended periods of time. Not very battery friendly. And Jon makes the best point about being tethered to dust collection. A cordless sander is kind of like, wireless cable ties.
1:25 I've been doing w working for over 30 years. just bought a miter saw this year. love it.
1:59 started using Ryobi in 2004, my drill still works. 41 tools later....
3:33 my craftsmen jobsite 10" from 2004 still works great in my massive table.
5:00 my H freight orbital one still works after 8 years, I prefer my 2 Ryobi cordless sanders; brushless belt and orbital.
6:31 still havent got a planer but shopping for a 3 blade or spiral.
Short and sweet, with no b.s. I like this channel and I’m subscribing 👍🏼
I Love this .. straight to the point no BS no sales gimmicks good advice Thank you.👍
Thank you Anthony
great video. I bought the newer Skil TS-6307 10" 15 amp jobsite saw ($300) which has a rack and pinion fence like the Dewalt and it works great as a beginner table saw for me. It can be easily tweaked for perfect cuts, has a flat aluminum table, a 25" rip capacity, can take a dado stack, and has a pretty decent built-in fold-up legs. I replaced the stock blade (which is awful) with a Diablo blade and it works great at least for my current needes.
Agreed. I just acquired this table saw as well, and having upgraded from the Harbor Freight (not the surprisingly decent Hercules, but the older model Chicago Electric) I can honestly say that they don't belong in the same category. It really comes down to the fence. Most people end up building a miter sled, and as long as the motor holds up, fence reliability is what you'll notice the most.
Also wanted to mention that the onboard storage is great on the Skil. Plus it looks cool.
This was great. I actually got many of those you recommended for beginners. Especially the table saw. That one I got on sale to boot. Then I got divorced & she pawned my tools while I was at an appointment with the VA. Saw my favorite speakers in a pawnshop too.
Holy shit thats crazy
You're still better off without the tools and wife! HAHA
Time to upgrade? 😅
Wow, excellent overview of so many tools. As a new home owner looking to restore an 1890 home, thank you.
Great video, love the editing!! A lot of wisdom packed in 9 minutes and have few laughs!!
Amen on the Makita - same goes for me. I like blue and they generally have a second tier of tools you can upgrade too.
They have an incredible family of tools. It was an easy decision for me
I've been looking at which table saw best suits my needs, and I keep coming back to the Dewalt because it's fence and rail system is better than a lot of other more expensive table saws. Thanks for your insights sir.
I’ve come to the same conclusion, but for a couple of hundred more you can get the saw stop contractor saw….
Happy with my Rigid and it does take a dado blade.
I own 3 - 10” table saws. A 3 hp jet cabinet saw. A 1.5 hp jet contractor saw. And a dewalt 10” portable table saw. I use the dewalt saw a lot. It doesn’t have the power of the other 2 and I use it mostly for plywood and soft woods. But I have say, it’s a great saw for the $. And the dust collection is pretty good. I take it to rentals and use it in the garage. When shopping for a saw, make sure it has a good fence. Make sure it’s straight to the blade and SOLID. It should not deflect, unless really pushed on hard.
As to the mitre saw, I used a simple Dewalt for 6 years but my oh my is the Bosch 12in glide an amazing saw. For the kind of stuff I do it’s perfect. The most stable side to side motion and yet compact in depth because no tubes sticking out the back. I have not hit the point of the mitre saw being unimportant yet, for me it’s second only to my drills for important tools. It’s also much much much safer than the table or circular saws so the 12” blade plus compound takes a lot of cuts away from the other saws.
Thank you for this video. I was looking for videos on Ro vs. mouse sanders and stumbled on this and it ended up answering my lingering questions on a used miter saw purchase too! I’m a hobbyist with home reno leaning into intermediate at this point and want to get some tools of my own and ditch the box miter! Also I love the darth blader! That’s a cricut video I’d watch! 🤣
Glad it helped! I've got a sticker guy who prints all the weird stuff I come up with for me
I have several of these and built our Off-Grid home with them. Worked fine and am still using them.
I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great czcams.com/users/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.
Came into this thinking you were going to be trolling, ended up going, "yup, that's true." To pretty much everything. Don't own a jointer or planar yet so got some good advice on top. Both of those are next on the list of purchases for my shop.
Its funny how you learn what not to buy when you buy the crap. Learning from mistakes via experience is really one of the best teachers. Those pain lessons always seem to stick the longest.
Great vid man.
That dewalt table saw is KILLER! I love mine! The fence is perfect and has tons of power
I have to say, one of the first tools I purchased was the dewalt jobsite table saw with folding stand. It is flawless, accurate and has given me 4 years of faithful service so far. It was an excellent purchase over time. I am precise with my tools, so if you are a rough worker, your results may vary.
Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed your video you have some great advice. I will say, that Skil, at least not the TS6307-00, doesn't deserve to be lumped in with HF and Ryobi as far as table saws. I own it and its a great saw similar to the dewalt. It's powerful, accurate, rack and pinon fence, accepts dado stack up to 5/8" and has integrated stand for $350, great value saw.
I agree the Skil 6307 has been good for me and was using a 3/4” dado stack in it this last weekend. I don’t know if it’s significantly better/worse than a Dewalt, but I haven’t had any problems after a year of using it.
I like your honesty and no sugar coated 😊
I really appreciate the advice in this video. I'm finally in a position to set up a shop, and I'm starting to put my tools together. I've made several purchases which align with your advice, and I'm very happy about them. I've also made a few that didn't, and I'm not so happy with them (battery powered sanders being one). One thing I've learned about buying larger tools such as table saws and planers for the first is that it's better to go with a little more quality than what you need given your beginner's skills. If you're using them, you'll get your money out of them. If you're not using them, you will not have broken the bank. Also, there are few things more frustrating than learning on garbage equipment. Slightly better tools will likely eliminate tool error and allow the focus to remain on operator error, and that's how you learn to improve.
I can add my recommendation to that Dewalt Jobsite Saw - it REALLY does deliver on good accurate cuts if you maintain it, and the fence is REALLY good for the price range of the saw. I love the one I use in my shop.
I love mine, I use it about 20 times a year, and it's been amazing!
From my personal experience Ryobi is the brand to go for beginners. The battery ecosystem is fantastic, included features are crazy good for the price, availability and variety of tools and accessories is never a problem, and most importantly, budget. I've had my drill, impact driver, screwdriver, miter saw, jigsaw, trim router and both orbital and finishing sanders for close to 3 years and they've never failed me.
Ryobi is also good for pros on job site stuff. Tools in the primary colors or dark teal tend to walk off on their own, but highlighter green tools tend to stay where they are xD
I haven ran Ryobi from the blue days have 12 of the Lion batteries now for my daily used pro tools I have mostly brushless but those once a year tools I get the cheaper bushed. have over 20 tools drills drivers sanders saws lawn trimer polesaw 4 gallon vac love this for fast car clean up and pellet stove.
I'm a ryobi man, and I have never once felt like I was sacrificing anything using their tools. Solid performance, good price points, great value.
It's really easy to put a ryobi battery into a ryobi tool. Other brands with rail-style interfaces I've found it easy to miss one side while not paying enough attention.
Me too
I bought a nice sliding compound mitre saw that the motor vibrated so bad that the blade wobble, even with a tight nut, would make the cut off to where it was unusable.
Glad your purchase experience has been different. I read lots of reviews of people having the same problem with that particular saw. I went to the more expensive Dewalt option and it has been flawless.
That was the first " Actually Helpful " video I've seen on this subject. Thank you for doing that.
Nice breakdown of tool recommendations... I refer to it often. Wish there was something on routers though
Thanks, Ill do a video on routers soon enough
Kobalt has a very good miter saw for the money. Old Delta saws are also good. Anything with rail forward design or a telescoping arm like that Bosch, can be mounted to a bench with less backspace. That helps a lot.
Battery powered tools, Makita and Milwaukee are great and available, Dewalt is up there but just a bit harder to get the top end.
Subscribed! 100% accuracy for the entire video. Also you're hilarious looking forward to bringing some other videos
I just had to tell you, "and now I'm a Makita guy for life because I love blue and weed whackers" is probably both the funniest and most insightful description of cordless platform preference I've seen in the dozens of hours of YT videos I've watched on the subject!
The most surprising tool I've purchased was a Harbor Freight angle grinder. On sale for $7 (I think its typically $11 now) and I had no use for it at the time. But in the last couple of years I've used it from cutting stone to cutting metal fencing (hog wire) in addition to various grinding duties. With the right blade or abrasive wheel it easily did the job and working long after I would have assumed it to fail (again cheapo HF tool). I only minimally take good care of it, it just keeps going. I've been looking at upgrading, maybe a battery powered but really haven't found a case where I need to.
I had one but the switch failed after about 5 uses. If you ever get a good cordless grinder you'll wonder how you lived without it. I also have a corded makita grinder for the bigger jobs.
As a longtime woodworke, I have an assortment of really great tools, Jet, Laguna etc. And what I thought may be a mistake buying was the Ryobi cordless 18 and 23 gauge. Best cheapest toolsI've bought. Outperformed the Makita 23 gauge easily. I still can't believe how well they've been working going on three years now. Amazing how many great pieces I've made, and don't own any Festool.
I think Festool is WAY overpriced in my opinion. A Bosch or DeWalt miter saw is plenty for just about anyone: hobbyist, pro or anything in between. One major issue that most modern miter saws have is that their fences are secured with countersunk bolts, so you can't make fine adjustments and have them stay. All that I know of except for Hitachi and DeWalt have this drawback (yes, even the Festool!). I was able to get around this with my DeWalt aftermarket screws and washers, but I want the security of the countersunk screws combined with a perfectly straight fence, so I'm gonna have to build a custom one at some point.
I really appreciate your channel brotha. I found it today while looking for information on beginner woodworking. My 8yo son and I started a little side hustle selling walking sticks made of wild guava wood, Ohia, and assorted other woods at farmer’s markets. It’s been extremely helpful in teaching me some basics because I have zero woodworking experience. I am absolutely hooked now though and I look forward to working with wood every single day! Thanks again!
That is awesome! I look forward to building with my kids when they get old enough. Good luck
if I ever really start woodworking, i appreciate that video to watch again, i'm gonna save it :D thank you so much for your honesty
When looking at tables saws, here’s what i ran into. I first picked up a skil. the miter slot was a nonstandard t shape, not 3/4” slot and i could not upgrade the miter gauge. I think that went back to the store after one cut. I replaced it with a Dewalt saw similar to what is shown here, but it did not support dado blade stacks. I got by with it for quite a while, but occasionally was frustrated by the small rip width, lack of dado blade, and underpowered when ripping long boards. All that to say, bigger is better on a table saw, and now I have a small cabinet saw from Grizzly, which is way more fun to use. Think about the features you need before buying... rip width, safety, power, table size, mobility, miter track size, dado blades etc.
Bigger is better, but most people don’t have the money and plenty don’t have the space. The current Dewalt though can do up to 82.5 cm width, has a 2kW motor, uses standard slots and the arbor is long enough for those who want to use a dado blade.
What Ian said
Maybe the deWalt is much better than my Makita. I have a Sedgwick saw in my workshop, but I bought a much cheaper site saw for my home. It is so inferior and less safe. The plastic guard was smashed when a cut off jammed in the insert slot. It is noisy and the mitre fence is loose in the slot. Although it does seem to crosscut square. Without dust extraction the rise and fall needs regular attention. Perhaps a beginner should have a mitre saw for cross cutting and a track saw system for ripping. Both might still be useful after upgrading to a table saw. I also recommend a cheap edge sander till you can afford a better one. The whole thing depends on how much disposable income you have.
@@ian1352 Yep. This.
I have the DW745. LOVE it, but it does not accept Dado's as the arbor is just long enough for a single blade. The newer model has included a longer arbor for Dado's and slightly faster blade speed. Motor is exactly the same.
I love my Ryobi cordless drill and driver. I bought them as a combo pack 17 years ago. Since then they have built 2 homes and are still constantly being used. I bought some larger batteries for them a few years ago to get a longer run-time but the originals still hold charge well.
I totally agree. I bought a combo pack in 2014 and I'm still using them daily. They don't owe me a dime when they finally crap out.
I have a few of the old blue Ryobi stuff and they are still solid - except my random orbit needs a new velcro pad but they are unavailable from Ryobi because "this model has been discontinued" which it shitty of them but I can probably find one that's compatible.
My husband bought me my fist mitersaw about 15 years ago from Sears. Thought I would return it for what I wanted. Great gift. I have used it for so many things. Not just for things like quarter round. I even used it for cutting the plastic pipes when installing a new kitchen sink. You need really straight cuts for that. For copper you can find pipe cutters.
I also used it when rebuilding my balcony, as I could keep it on the lower deck instead of having to walk to the table saw in the garage for cuts. It was enough work going up and down stairs carrying lumber threw the house..
Bought my first table saw for installing laminate flooring in our old house. Did the entire main floor. Got a lot of use out of it over the years. Installed the floor at a friend's house as well.
Went more expensive for my second table saw.
I have had 4 sanders. The first owed me nothing. Cheapest one at the store. Sanded several pieces of furniture for refinishing, hand sanded 4 wood floors and the kitchen cupboards. Failed just before the kitchen was done.
Went with Dewalt for the second. Gone in just over a year. Friend convinced me I got a lemon. The second one barely lasted a year. Bought cheap one from Canadian Tire for my last one. Over 5 years now and still going.
My husband had a cheap cordless drill that we used for decades. When it went dead I bought him a Sears cordless drill. Waste of money. As was the next.
We now have 2 corded drills and an old cordless one we bought at a garage sale. It is working great, unlike the garbage ones out there now.
We also now have a drill press. Last years Christmas present. Not used often, but handy when needed.
Would love a wood plane. But just got a new wet tile saw, so I need to wait. Also want a table jig saw. They look much easier than the hand held.
I think people often get the new tools to fit a project. And everyone does different things. But brand name does not mean much anymore.
Thanks for the toolkit and the follow. You kept your word Lincoln.
Just found this and it's solid advice. Love that you gave that shout out to Tamar. Everytime someone tells me "you need a sawstop" I point them to her channel to shut them up. I have that exact DeWalt Table saw and it has been bullet proof for the last 6 years for me. Great video.
Glad you liked the video. Tamar is the best
Awesome video. The only point I would make on buying used Delta equipment is to stick with the older (made In USA) models. There is a HUUUUGE difference in quality between them and their newer big box/ homeowner cheesy versions. I regularly see older Delta Unisaws, or Contractor saws on FB or CL for less than the cost of the hybrid Delta saw you pictured. Many of the older saws can also run on 110 volts, which is a consideration for many garage shops without 220v power.
I bought a used Delta Contractor saw and spent considerable time tuning it and polishing the cast iron top. With a quality blade, I can get cuts every bit as good as your Sawstop. Just my $.02.
Those unisaws are fantastic. Can't go wrong with them
That dewalt table saw is the best purchase I’ve ever made. Thing runs like a champ for years now has ripped so much and constantly puts out great work
Thanks for the great info. I do have the Delta 36-725T2 table saw which, at the time, was a little over my budget but I wanted a cast iron table, Beismeyer-style fence, and a decent motor. For what I do, this will be my last table saw.
I was actually looking to buy a jointer and I would consider myself an intermediate craftsman but I’ve always just used a router and the straight edge to join two pieces of lumber together and it’s worked great for me so thank you for this video!
Glad you liked it!
A jointer is definitely a luxury you can live without. I've been woodworking for over 10 years and do it for a living, and I still don't own one. My shop doesn't have the room for one, and I've learned to live without.
Just chirping in on that job site saw. I can't recommend it enough. That exact one.
Good video. I have that Dewalt table saw - so was really glad to get some validation. I love it.
I can highly recommend the Dust Deputy. It collects a lot more than just shavings and large particles, at least when hooked up to a decent shop vac. Last year, I had to cut into a tile floor to repair a plumbing leak under our bathroom. That meant cutting through grout lines, and through a 4" concrete slab. In the past I'd have put on a respirator, taped the door shut, and resigned myself to the room being completely buried in talcum-powder-fine dust. This time I had almost no mess, except directly around the cuts. And when I opened the shop vac, it only had a light dusting on the filter. Everything else was in the bucket under the Dust Deputy....
I'm with you on the 8" jointer. I started off with a 6" and almost immediately knew I needed a larger jointer. It's only 2" wider but it's 10 times the tool.
As for job site tables saws the skil saw portable SPT99-11 with the stand is a very good option. It has wormdrive with a lot of power. the folding is easy and is very easy to move around with the big wheels. It’s fence is easy to square up with the blade. I think it has the widest table with its extension which is nice for ripping sheet goods. It is a lot better than the other skil table saws which I believe you are most likely familiar with.
DeWalt has a jobsite saw with a fence that extends to 32", the Skil goes out to 24". Which is plenty of room for a lot of projects, but that extra room on the DeWalt does open some doors.
@@thegardenofeatin5965 The model number I have and referenced in my post above has a fence that extends out further than 24”. Without looking it up if I remember right it’s 30” so not quite as far as the Dewalt.
Bro your channel rocks. Your CZcams short of falling down the hill to fetch a pallet sold me. I am a hobbyist woodworker with very little skill and very little money. I'm drawn to this craft because of its therapeutic qualities. I literally disappear into my own little world when I'm measuring and cutting. I would encourage anyone who is on the fence about woodworking or an experienced tradesman to subscribe to this man's channel. Let's support the craft one dowel at a time
Great video! The thumbnail had me worried. I just bought a Dewalt 7465 table saw thinking it was a smarter buy than a miter saw. Thanks for validating. Looking forward to watching more.
Really like your style and great advice! People may want to consider an alternative to the DeWalt table saw: the Grizzly 2-hp model g0869. Same rack & pinion fence plus soft-start, variable speed, and yes, it takes a dado stack. Extremely pleased with both the saw and the support.
Thank you
Great video, just wanted to add that the Ridgid R4516 also takes a dado blade. I have that model and was presently surprised to learn it did, but according to the manual it is designed to accept a 6” dado up to 3/4” thick.
MANY thanks - subscribed! My next purchase was going to be the Dewalt table saw and you confirmed this is a good choice. (My first build was a 10x20' shed and I had a battery Dewalt 6 1/2" circular saw, a driver, drill and a hammer!)
A basic mitre saw is all you need.
A good table saw pays for itself over and over through decades. Buy mid-range, at least.
Sanders are all mostly disposable junk. A serious bench disk sander is a mighty handy thing.
Few people really need jointers or planers but I'd suggest a reasonable drill press is a cheap and useful purchase.
I have the Ryobi cordless tool set and they are tough!! I built my off grid tiny house with this set years ago. I use them nearly every day since and they are still holding up well. They wont break the bank and they nearly last forever. I did wear out the circular saw bearing though and had to replace that but I had used it heavily. Everything else is still running well.
I love my Ryobi cordless Lithium Ion tools, but weedwacker and the sanders are frustrating to use on battery even if you have a bunch of batteries, but the Newer green 18+ batteries run longer with a more consistent power delivery than older battery tech did (obviously). I was given a huge box literally like 50-60 (used, but free), of the new style batteries so my tolerance for using batteries on those two tools has gone up greatly. Only half or so charge, but I have so many that I haven't taken the time to see if they have a bad cell or just low charge tripping the protection circuit.
They are great, I still have some of the old Nickel battery tools and they're still going just got warn out brushes.
Awesome
@@Lincolnstww Yeah it's awesome I'll just pop one of the 4Ah batteries in there then bring one or two out with me and it works out fine and if not I have a dozen more waiting on the sideline LOL. The other nice thing about these is the power usage profile with the NiMH batteries the tools (especially weed wackers) would noticeably start being weaker within a few minutes and just slowly die off VERY annoying! The lithium batteries start to show power drops closer to being dead then they drop off quick way nicer IMO.
They got a lot of different batteries checking mine I have my original two LI+ION batteries from them (P104 dual layer) are 48Wh and my "new" (P108 dual layer) is 72Wh not bad. The others are single thickness but pretty good P102 24Wh, P107 28Wh, P190 36Wh crazy seeing battery evolution.
Yes! I built my cabin in the Adirondacks with my ryobi tools.
I love my 18v ryobi tools.