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Notion vs OneNote: Does Notion Live Up to the Hype?
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- In this video, I look at whether Notion deserves all the hype it's been receiving. Notion brings together notetaking, work management and tracking, tasks, wikis, Kanban boards, and more into one place. I'll compare Notion to my current notetaking tool, Microsoft OneNote, which is built-in to Windows 10 and part of Microsoft 365.
If you are studying or need to take notes during presentations, courses, and meetings, then a notetaking app like Notion is vital for getting the most out of your time. But not all notetaking apps are made equal, so it's important to understand the differences between them and which features are going to be most important for you.
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00:00 Intro
01:49 OneNote vs Notion
02:20 How does OneNote work?
03:06 OneNote UI and features
06:49 OneNote pros and cons
08:36 How does Notion work?
10:35 Notion UI and features
17:20 Notion pros and cons
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I use OneNote over Notion because of:
-Video/Article integration within it
-File printouts inside the page
-Stylus utility
-It is much simpler
All good reasons. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for making this video! As someone who is familiar with both platforms, the fact you explained the features of both platforms and their pros and cons helped me to think through how to best organise my sets of notes I've collected during my temple classes. Decided I will be using both OneNote and Notion - OneNote for my notes and Notion for creating a database and wiki pages!
Glad to hear it was useful! I'm still using both OneNote and Notion because neither is an ideal solution for all my needs.
Same here!
My favorite is onenote and onenote only. I tried notion, obsidian. But being a maths teacher and because of the pain of typing the equations, i prefer writing which is easy in onenote or click the photo and paste it. More and more i am seeing notion as second brain in most channels, more and more i love onenote as my second brain
Great to hear!
I work in IT and I’m always learning something new from your videos. I hadn’t even heard about Notion until now.
Thanks Ed! 😊 It's great that you're finding the channel useful.
At the 9:20 mark, you mentioned the "Toggle List" feature of Notion. But OneNote has that built in, without having to select it as a specific structure in your text. Anywhere in OneNote that you have multi-level indented text (e.g. Bullet list with multiple indented bullets, or text under a heading), you can double-click on the left margin to temporarily hide the lower-level text.
Since it's been 7 months since you published this, assuming you're still using Notion, I'd love to see an updated comparison video.
Personally, as a long-time OneNote user, the biggest draw to Notion is that it's actively being enhanced. Whereas OneNote hasn't gotten any major new features in ages.
I certainly haven't been able to find that feature. Not in the full OneNote desktop app at least.
I'd love to make another video at some point. Watch this space!
What I liked about OneNote is that it was more like a scrapbook than a notebook. You can add pictures, auto and arrange them on a page however you wanted.
When I saw your video describing that onenote is much less organized than notion, I had to comment. For context, I don't use notion much but with the brief experience I've had I found it to be very visually attractive but not necessarily much better at organization if at all (the exception being direct links to other notes within notes, which is great). I also don't use the windows 10 version of onenote, but regardless the desktop version will soon be the only one being developed in the future so that's a moot point.
Anyways, I've used onenote for the last 6 years as a college and grad student in a fairly conventional way (typing) and I find that the onenote organization tools are amazing! For instance, you can organize by notebooks > section groups > groups > pages > subpages > sub-subpages. Within each page (or sub/sub-sub page), the notetaking experience itself is also easily hierarchical through automatic bullets/lists that you can customize AND you can hide/unhide at each level of the list. You can also easily create tables without touching the mouse by typing a word and clicking tab for more columns, and ctl + enter for more rows. You can have tables within tables to an unlimited extent, and you can have lists within those. There's also dozens of customizable keyboard shortcuts you can use to quickly mark important notes, which is great to tailor to each person's notetaking preferences. I can go on, particularly with document markup tools for students, but I know that you acknowledged that briefly. I respect the work you put into this video and will admit that I can't speak to Notion's entire feature set, but I believe that you did an underwhelming job at showing OneNote's capabilities and as a result, this video is quite misleading.
I think these apps cannot be compared, like a bus does not compare to a car.
The UX concept of OneNote is more of a Digital Paper, with strongly integrated Drop In mechanics. (Which in turn would not work well without a thought-out structure, or you end up having dozens of pages cluttered with information scraps)
The core UX concept of Notion is one of a Knowledge Base with grain of semantic web idea behind it, where you first think about the form and format of your information and then create and interlink information pieces into a database like structure.
They are difficult to compare. And I agree with your description of Notion and OneNote. But they are often compared 🙂
Notion is lifechanging too for me but 2 things I wish for it: (1) Ability to seamlessly write using Apple Pencil, just like how it works with Apple Notes; (2) Search function to function faster just like Evernote.
Can't disagree with you there ))
Great video
I wish it were easier to attach files in Notion, then I might switch to it. When I click the file in OneNote, it opens outside so I can edit it. However, in Notion, it downloads the file.
Overall, I really like the Notion interface, but am not convinced I would get much value from switching.
Thank you! Yes, you're right. I don't often embed docs in Notion. But if you do, that behavior could be annoying.
Your Audio quality is super duper awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😍😍😍 good video
Thanks! I try my best 😊
Thank you! I am trying to choose a note taking app which is right for me. I've tried Evernote, OneNote and notion and haven't made a final decision yet. Special thanks for clear pronunciation ! Greetings from Russia
Glad it was helpful!
OneNote is the best I've ever found. Totally organizable
I truly appreciate this video! I was on the verge of switching and this has tipped me to making the move. Thanks again!
Glad it was useful 😊
Thanks for watching! And please like and subscribe if you found the video useful 😉 Check out the timestamps below to move quickly to different sections of the video! And let me know in the comments what you think of Notion.
⌚ Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:49 OneNote vs Notion
02:20 How does OneNote work?
03:06 OneNote UI and features
06:49 OneNote pros and cons
08:36 How does Notion work?
10:35 Notion UI and features
17:20 Notion pros and cons
I used to love Notion but the block system became one big barrier. One line-break and there's a new block, then you cannot copy text from multiple blocks in one go. Big issue.
Good point. The block system definitely has its pros and cons.
Considering the move to notion. THank you for the video. Very helpful
You are welcome!
Hey! I just found your channel, Everything was really good explained. I would definitely give Notion a try thanks to you.
Thanks! Give it a go and let me know how you find it.
Thanks, I came to this video because of my frustration with the inability to easily structure a page in OneNote (that and because it doesn't have native markdown capabilities and the add-in I found is okay at best).
After watching your video, I'm going to back to notion and see how that works.
I actually have a follow-up. I just saw another video that gave me some ideas on how to organize a OneNote page. So, for now I am sticking with it.
Yes Agree.. Both Notion & OneNote has their own pros and cons.. so preferred to use both on their use cases.
But Is notion is secure?
It’s secure in the sense that data is encrypted across the wire between you and AWS, the service Notion is hosted on. But that’s about it I think. OneNote is part of Microsoft 365, which provides much greater levels of security for its large enterprise customers.
One note can be learned in an hour or less. Notion takes ages for someone who has no background in it and no programming knowledge. Notion users make their program. OneNote users get work done.
I am sticking with one note after experimenting eith notion ,obsidian for many months.
1- i can quickly click a photo and save it as a note,quickly from phone camera and even scribble on the photo by setting it as background image.
2- notion is too slow in windows.otherwise i prefer minimalism of notion and easy keyboard shortcuts.
Is Notion for Mac free?
The pricing is exactly the same on each platform. It's free to a point, then once you've used X number of blocks, you need to start paying.
Your video is really informative, tysm!
Thank you! Glad you found it useful 😊
Notion is fine if you don't mind handing ownership of all your data to a third party. Any sensible corporation would forbid the use of Notion for storing meeting notes
Exactly.
Hello. Could you explain this detail of the data in Notion better? I didn't know he shared data with third parties.
Only thing I dislike about Notion is their search function. It's quite slow and terrible. If they'd fix that, Notion would be more than great.
I don’t have much data in Notion but the search does seem a bit clunky.
My biggest problem with Notion is the feature of inserting picture on the mobile app. My photos keep getting turned 90 degrees. And I don't know how to fix that because Notion doesn't allow me to edit or reposition the photo :( Does anyone have that same problem? In the end, I just go back to OneNote for note-taking because it allows me to crop the photo and even convert the photo into text, which is incredibly useful when I'm trying to take notes on my books.
The mobile app isn't the greatest. I never use it to be honest so I can't answer your question.
Would the insert>table in a onenote page make onenote structured like notion?
No. Notion is much more than just a simple table.
What happens if you copy and paste a webpage into notion? Would it appear like copy and paste a webpage into onenote?
It just adds a link to the page.
Notion vs Obsidian? Thank you
Maybe one day 😉
Really great video
Thank you!
Which one can I use with the Google Assistant and Google Drive?
And use it completly offline?
OneNote works with Google Assistant via Zapier. And I think Notion can also be made to work with it too. But I don’t think either have direct support for Google Assistant.
If you use the version of OneNote that comes with the desktop Office apps, then you could store notebooks in Google Drive I suppose.
But Notion and OneNote are primarily designed to be used with their own cloud storage.
@@seeseerider 'OneNote for Windows 10' cannot be used offline. Only the version of OneNote that comes with the Office desktop apps supports offline notebooks.
As per Microsoft's website: "If you’ve previously used older versions of OneNote to create notebooks on your local hard drive, you’ll need to migrate such notebooks to a cloud account before you can use them with more modern versions of OneNote."
He is not a student, I am neither but I can see all these features are the best synergy elements for a textbook notes system or a student life, where you just need to store things, notion will not be a choice because it is not available offline and takes quite a lot of time to open up.
I’d say Notion is too complicated for students. Microsoft is good at making software that’s accessible and easy to use.
@@RussellSmith Agreed, while I am using one note and got this issue after using. Its size really blows exponentially as it stores everything on the device. Thats a pro as well as a con.
How is the security with OneNote ?
Good because OneNote integrates with the security that’s part of Microsoft 365.
With the desktop Installed Onenote app you also have the option to save the notebooks ONLY to your local system. Of course this only secure as your local system is, but it avoids the cloud if that is a concern.
remnote vs onenote (pc version) ?
I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with Remnote at all.
I really don't like your onenote cons all of them seems like you are just complaining about things you don't know. I have been using onenote for over 4 years and none of these cons are true.
also Notion is much more complicated, slower, you have very limited control over the page layout all pages basically look the same. and you can't place images freely on the page or annotate on them
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying about Notion. But I shouldn’t have to ‘solve’ problems with OneNote. Or what is it that I don’t know?
In one note on a Microsoft Surface with Pen you can’t take handwritten notes.
What? That’s crazy. Really?
so useful video thanks
No problem! Have you decided between the two?
@@RussellSmith yes I want to transfer from OneNote to Notion. But the data transition is a big problem
@@user-fu5gt1sh5s That's a very good point. Notion supports import in plaintext (.txt)
, markdown (.md or .markdown), Microsoft Word (.docx), CSV (.csv), and HTML (.html). But I guess there's no way to export everything from OneNote and import it to Notion in one easy step.
Thank u so much
No problem!
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Your demonstration of how you use onenote was a horror show no wonder you struggle
You are also using the online version not the desktop version which is far better imo
There is the software and then how you use the software maybe that is the bit you have got wrong
Anyway you have piqued my interest in notion so I will give it a solid play it might be better for something's but then do I really want to be using two notebook systems
Probably not
Hi Mark. Since I made the video, Microsoft has started pushing out the desktop version again as the preferred version of OneNote. I'd love to know what I was doing wrong with OneNote. That's the whole issue isn't it though. How are you supposed to use this thing effectively? No idea. I don't believe I have any major misunderstanding going on about how OneNote works or should be used. But I'm always willing to learn.
@@RussellSmith I have not got around to playing with Notion but my son showed me some of the stuff he was doing on it and I thought onenote could do it loads better
It is to big a subject to even start to explain in a post here but I used onenote extensively in my business with 14 staff for about 10 years. I initially used it just myself and built it to use productivity system in books like Getting Things Done - but then adapted it because my business was different. I then realised it was a very very good data store and research tool and ran my whole business through it slowly getting ""everything" on there and across several notebooks and the entire business.
It made it very fast to find or put information - click click click there you go
I reckon it used to at least double my productivity maybe as much as 60/70% - because of some of the nature of what I was doing and across the business harder to say but very significant. Scary figures !
Anyway the reason I said you were using it wrongly on a specific point is that you were making the classic mistake that people would do when I first got them going of having lots of boxes all over with bits of text in - partly because they thought how marvellous it was that they could do that - another common newbs mistake was using highlighting to much
What I realised worked best by far was having one column at the left and putting everything into that one column and then if helpful have bits at the right
Then use pages to split data up more and sections and section groups accordingly to split data up into areas
Generally keep the text on each page shortish and split into pages and use the page titles as sort of chapter headings - but it would depend on the nature of the data - you can then go direct to the bit you want
I could go on and on and on - I did consider trying to monetise my knowledge but my health is not good enough at the moment and I am getting on a bit
Ditto just for fun putting stuff on youtube just for the love of it and to help others
The whole worked as an integrated management and data system
Just one more example of how by changing work habits you can get more out of it - for many things - that involved thinking and ideas about stuff we used to add new stuff to the top - we would always date and initial it. We would email the link to the page around and say added to and the next person could then add and so on. This would not work with big groups and not on all subjects. But we would rarely have meetings where everyone would have to break off to be together at the same time and same place. Instead people could add to the notes read what others had thought - consider and think in a different and usually better way - when they were in the right space - and on it would go.
If urgent then in the email title you put URGENT at the start or if rang the person
It all worked great for us
One of the big additions that came during the time I used it was instant search. It is not immediately instant when you have a phenomenal amount of data on there but wait a few seconds and suggestions would pop up. I could find stuff that had been recorded years ago in seconds. Just amazing.
Thanks for the insight Mark. It seems to me that if data can be structured, then it should be. I would prefer to use Microsoft Lists for that but the data really needs to be highly structured. Or a Notion database. As for OneNote, I appreciate what you are saying. But OneNote doesn't lend itself naturally to the workflow you suggest. Every time you click somewhere on a note, OneNote automatically creates a new block. Which in turn, leads to organized chaos.
But I'm glad you found a way to use it effectively and I'm going to bear your advice in mind as I structure notes in the future.
@@RussellSmith You are not getting it
I am not saying it is right for you and the way you work but
You can use onenote for your lists and everything and have literally everything all in one place and find it in seconds
I can find stuff from 10 years ago - why is that needed - well the next time I sell my van say and everything I learned from and got wrong last time - ditto windowscreen repair so I am not ripped off
Holiday places I was looking at and then cancelled because of covid
It require onenotes to be used as you work - and so the core of how you work so that you have records for future use
You don't really want to be doing things like lists in different software because you end up with stuff all over the place - so just do it all in onenote - use that as your working and management tool
One place to go - one place to put - one place to look
It does not have database properties but is a very flexible data store
You can tie it in with excel - which is still not really a "proper database" but can often be used for the job
I am baffled why you are clicking all over a page and cannot use it for lists
I did plenty of that and very effectively with loads of "tricks" such as using tables for them
And had a consistent repeating structure across literally hundreds of different areas
So that you could go into any one and get into the project/topic without head clobber going on
Onenote does not create a new block if you click within an already existing block
Most of our pages would only have one block - we did not need more - sometimes with bits at the side - and very very rarely some exceptions to this
So I am baffled as to how you were using it
I used it with 16 staff to run and control nearly the entire business
We then had Excel - Outlook - Accounts package and a couple of others such as software that came with label printers and a specialist ecommerce package
We never used word - it was all internal stuff and done in onenote - then it could be found in seconds - added to - altered etc
I near used it all day everyday for ten plus years - it does lend itself to the workflow I suggest - that was based on experience
use notion and you cant switch to any one even notion apk is bad
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
There's certainly some wisdom in that. But there are also disadvantages to having data spread across different solutions.
Notepad >
One Note isn't even useful for tablet. It will crash when using a modestly larger notebook. I lost my entire yearly planner that way. It can't handle much data. I switched to Good Notes, that works much better for tablet! It's just not very text friendly. So I might keep using Good Notes for tablet, and I'm here because I'm considering Notion for typed notes. I wish there was a combo of digital handwriting and text, but there really isn't any solution and I've searched a handful of applications
Thanks for the info Kristina. I've never used either OneNote or Notion on a tablet device. It's a shame about OneNote, because it seems ideally created for tablet users.
@@RussellSmith Yeah you would think based on the ux design. One Note just sucks on all devices. And for mobile, I hate that there is no search function. My whole life was on One Note since 2013 so I was hard pressed to let it go, but I had no choice starting 2021. Since watching your video I downloaded Notion, and I can tell it's going to change the way I organize my life. It's just a never ending challenge transferring data over from One Note, and deciding to make something handwritten for Good Notes, or typed out for Notion. But it will do! My iPad is inseparable since I got one, it's incomparable to laptop and mobile.
So basically OneNote is the garbage bin of note taking apps?
No. It depends. If you need a semi-loose structure with focus on pen/touch input, then probably OneNote is ideal.