Is Team USA Overrated?! 🤔🤔 | The Panel
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- In this episode, our panelists delve into the takeaways from the Team USA vs. Team Canada exhibition match, analyzing the key moments and performances. They explore the idea that players with less offensive responsibility often excel defensively, and share their thoughts on Grant Hill's comments regarding Kawhi Leonard's departure from Team USA. The discussion shifts to Joel Embiid's disappointing performance against Canada, and whether the Knicks have made a mistake by overpaying OG. They debate if the Knicks are better than the Celtics and respond to Jaylen Brown's criticism of Nike after his Team USA snub. Lastly, they discuss why Jayson Tatum is not a top 3 player in the NBA and debate whether Luka Doncic is clearly better than Jayson Tatum.
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⌚TIMESTAMPS
0:00:00 Takeaways from Team USA vs Team Canada exhibition match
0:20:53 Players with less offensive responsibility are great defensively
0:36:06 Thoughts on Athletics
0:43:02 Thoughts on Hill comments on Kawhi’s Team USA departure
0:50:07 Chitchat
0:54:47 Superchats
1:03:20 Embiid was bad last night against Canada
1:19:19 Superchats
1:35:53 Thoughts on Knicks: Have they made a mistake by overpaying OG?
1:47:08 Are Knicks better than Celtics?
2:02:35 Thoughts on Jaylen Brown calling out Nikeafter Team USA Snub
2:19:59 Jayson Tatum is not Top 3 player in the NBA
2:30:15 Luka is not clearly better than JT
2:38:36 Superchats
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Lazy eye bob will sit there and cry for multiple episodes because gil doesn’t like sac but talk so crazy any other times , BUM
Nbs I think it was cuz he was speaking on the actual people in Sacramento not just the team
@@Doggydogworld289 Lol this is fire. Cant say what I want cause my comment will get deleted 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@@BIGOXMedia man you ain’t going to do anything but cry when Sacramento or kawhi gets brought up , be real with yourself you’re on the platform to be a personality, not for your basketball takes
@@Doggydogworld289 what ever keeps yo nerd ass engaged is koo wit me, thanks for the views.
Joel disrespect is becoming so far away from basketball its getting weird
@@MarzTalksSports I’m with Ox Embiid is a bum straight fraud
Nah man he had a bad game after not playing for months and having to rehab on top of playing in an unfamiliar situation. He’s clearly a fraud even though just yesterday we talked about how a player’s game looks different based on where they are.
@@MOE__then ox will turn around and cry about people calling kawhi out for being made of glass
Nah it’s cuz we actually care about people and what they do off the court
Cry about it
We still having JT > Luka convos with folks who are clearly bias to JT 🤦🏾♂️
Luka is a stat padder
Luka, the non-defender and poor efficiency?
The only thing luka did better than JT in that finals was shooting & even then he was terrible from 3 & the FT line
@@GardeniaBlossoms_poor efficiency?
JT is the better player
Joel embiid is an american hes gone to college here higschool here and is a citizen. This countries racism and xenophobia runs deep even minorities upholding it.
He literally begged france president for citizenship and promised to play for France though?
hello not me
@@retrey63 its sucks for france so i expect the french fans to be angry but why are americans mad that an american is playing for them?
@@MarzTalksSports no not you
@@notmarz45 Americans hated KD going to the warriors, embiid choosing USA over his own country of birth probs didn't sit right with people.. like he's begging for silverware
I never understood the Tatum hate
People will hate anything and anyone, even if the reasoning is bad, just gotta accept it and move on
Lightkskin and had a good team since his rookie year lol
He’s so corny and overrated
People hate on Luka who made the finals still after nobody had him even getting past the first round. To this day they call him James harden who's never made a finals n blew multiple 3-1 leads n has 0 mid range game lol.
The embiid hate isn't hate the guy can't stay healthy. Embiid has been dealing with injuries since the day he got drafted. Its not hate the guy just isn't going to get to were we thought he'd be. I love embiid but the guys body falls apart by the time post season starts
It’s not hate it’s people putting him in conversation he doesn’t belong in
JT and JB better then Luka all around
COOK!!!!
They are only better defenders that’s all they don’t anything better than luka lol besides play better defense
@@jankykidd3353I mean U can't minimise the defensive gap by saying only defense
@@jankykidd3353but Luka Better than bothh
All rounds wdym?? Like a more complete player??
It’s ain’t the same without ticket smh
when things change they usually arent the same
Who cares, go to his channel and watch his 40 bron related streams.
@@battousaithekingslayer9913casual and only thing you slay his hamburgers 🤡
Watch Ticket then
Wipe your mouth
Real basketball was being played last night. Refs actually let them play unlike in the league where everything is a foul. Jamal Murray is nothing without his daddy Jokic and I’m ngl Joel Embiid might be a generational fraud on all basketball formats. No 3 sec rule and he’s still getting cooked while committing dumb fouls. I understand it’s the first game but Anthony Davis should be starting
Are you gonna keep this energy for Embiid if he starts cooking?
@@BlkStar99no, theyll switch up liek they always do. Cant take nba fans takes too seriously, they have mood swings like pregnant women
People totally disrespect The 1996 Dream Team 2 squad!!
How they’re literally called the dream team
Swipa really said Haliburton is a better offensive player than Kyrie 🤦🏾
Reasonable
Were there these many people bitching about Hakeem joining team usa in 1996? Or people just hate Embiid?
@@samuelrowe1454 I want to know the answer to this too. I was 5 so I don’t remember
@@BIGOXMediawe can ask chill tomorrow
@@MarzTalksSports don’t forget
They setting Chill up with that shirt lmao
I truly hope Jason Tatum see how better his game is when he attacks the basket more
The embiid narratives been nasty since he won MVP. Everyone is still mad at him for winning that award over Jokic.. HOW DARE HE..
Sorry for the long post
I do like the fact that you guys go down these rabbit holes when in conversation. its the same with Joe Rogan in a way where it feels like a natural conversation. I do think what you guys are doing is different and its informative and entertaining. I do miss some individuals like Ticket but not the volatility though of what he brings same with some of the older members who are working behind the scenes now.
To me Omar i hear his points about Ron, but those moments happen to be some of funniest moments on the show, I don't think Rons a bad host. I don't think it hurts the integrity of the show for him to back the person who maybe in the corner , because he's trying to get a reaction that's no different from messing with your friends and gaslighting them or something.
Also the part that Omar said about broader reach specifically for the members, I didn't like him dismissing Marz's point about the community. I watched enough to see the same people on the panel or Open gym it's better to have a community of people you know to some degree. I'm sure he wasn't being malicious but it just came across like he wanted to be right, rather then offering sound advice but to me he looked silly in the discussion. That's not to say everything is perfect but the things he's pointing out as a weakness is PC strength thats why you've gotten to this point.
but omar said its bad
Joel shouldn’t be on the team for 3 reasons
1 it’s a bomb squad no one person is that important so if u feel u don’t want to do your team dirty it’s not that deep
2 these hive mind casual fans aren’t even appreciative of the talent they have on the team
3 6ers probably just assembled the best roster /hc combo you’ve had in your career , I feel you should be taking the offseason serious as possible and he still has that Bookbag size brace on
Dirt neck bob will start shedding tears when ppl talk about kawhi or Sacramento then talk crazy about Joel ,
Also type 2 domo both those bums need to relax
Dirt neck bob and type 2 domo are clowns too
You got them Meg The Stallion knees. Wipe your mouth when you done
I don’t watch as much anymore but everytime i do fucking Ox has the worst takes I’ve seen
You just better keep watching Shaun you got so much to learn and so little time
@@BIGOXMediaI fw you ngl
@@mayowaojutalayo5298 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Ox is the weakest link and it's gets worse every episode.
@@kingmark4233 get of my 🍆. Let ya mama get a turn
Yall lowkey be pocket watching
If both teams are healthy and cooking, the biggest X-factors in the series between the Knicks and Celtics are KP and Mazulla for the Celts and Julius Randle and Thibs. Celtics have the clear advantage because their X factors are both proven, whereas even though I can say I trust Thibs to counter Mazulla’s adjustments, I just can’t trust Randle to be consistent enough to be confident. Also the Knicks desperately need a backup big
This was you’re guy most in depth show ever loved that your covered other sports
Playing both sides of the ball Isn’t too hard or exhausting to do. They just don’t wanna do It. Being great at both Is one thing, but giving effort at both Is another.
Last night only proved that if AD and Bam in the regular season got to play at the 4, they would get the DPOY respect they deserve
When Chill was talking about the USA team and said, "We haven't played with each other", I needed to hear a "pause" after that!😂
Dude listened to them talk about how Dwight Powell is the starter then proceeded to say, “but Canada has a good enough team”😂
This is why Ron isn't a panelist. Saying nobody brings what hali does is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Hali controlled the tempo better than any of the others last night only ones who are remotely close are bron and Steph and you don’t want to solely rely on bron to run the offense at this point and curry is way more dangerous off ball on a team like this
The thing with the offense and defense convo why players take plays off is cause the way teams build the teams most teams just run through 1-2 players everybody else just wait to get the ball so they over using they best players and now they crying bout defense
So we're just going to pretend that Luka isn't the second best passer and playmaker in the league huh?
Marzzz spittin about giving players respect for playing both sides. Makes me respect Tatum more
Good episode. This was like A Mike Conley + 20 game. No, notes.
It's common dam sense, some people will be better at defense without the offensive load. Alot of defense is energy and stamina. Offense os 10x harder.
Defense is about effort. You do not have to be all defensive player but to be a cone is unacceptable. You do mot have to be athletic to be a decent defender. The concept that these guys have a high burden on offense is cap. The truth is they are liabilities when they are off ball. They cannot be spot/catch and shoot shooters. They do not assist with setting picks and screens. They aren’t battling for offensive rebounds in the paint. Many are just getting rebounds bc they are the PG and the role players allow them to grab the easy rebound.
Celtics were an all time great team last season, Tatum shot below 30% on Jumpshots and KP missed large portion of the playoffs knicks should be the ones worried.
has everyone just forgotten how terrible julius is in the playoffs all of a sudden?
The presumption is that with a lesser load he'll be more effective
U put a secondary/tertiary in a primary role with questionable pieces it leads to poor play. he was also hurt last year.hes not as bad as his playoff performances suggest,especially since hes also just a better player now
Were ticket at
It’s been weeks since he’s last been on bro, how are yall not noticing
@@OFFICIALTEEK-nu1ev been noticing but that shit dry now without bro
Chill definitely stuck in the past. How does Bam at the 4 bring Miami any advantage? He doesn’t gain a size advantage and his speed advantage becomes smaller. You have to add a slower guy to the lineup at the 5 which I think hurts Miami with all the movement they do on offense. Miami likes to switch everything due to Bam being great on the peremiter, they’d have to change their whole defensive scheme. I think Bam surrounded by 4 wings/guards makes more sense on both sides of the court.
Joel Embiid been in the NBA for so long and still can’t read the defense, SMFH
Bro said if Canada had Andrew Wiggins and Benedict the game would have looked different😂😂😂
How USA overrated if they won 😂😂😂
Al horford didnt start when kp did & vice versa , tatum played the 4 so he would be the pj in that situation
If a “better” player gets outplayed is he really better? Maybe these guys chill always references weren’t better in the first place and that’s why they were outplayed.
The young guys looked good. I think US would have been fine without calling in the old guard.
Aaron gordon avg less blocks per game than pj washington every season 😂
Embiid is now approaching Lebron hate levels. Pretty odd
Swipe doesn't know what he is talking about regarding Embiid on tgis All Star team!
i agree with bob that when embiid does that wasted moevement it doesnt look nice. its the same reason ive never liked watching paul george
Where are the time stamps?
Why is bob on the show serious question ? He knows 0 basketball, cry baby , it’s annoying get him off the show he brings 0 to the table
W Nepotism
@@BIGOXMediaat least you know lol
@@erikjohnson1435 I don’t expect people that can’t dribble and breathe at the same time to understand the mind of a real hoop knower. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@BIGOXMediawhy u come for me damn what i do
@@MarzTalksSports lol naw never
He ain’t lying about that fbi sht
Big Ox with his daily dumb takes...how are the Knicks surpassing Celtics team defense just by adding Bridges while losing Hartenstein? Did he just not watch Boston defense, who were top 5 all season, perform in Finals? Please stop thinking Bridges has any hope vs JT...I was at Barclay's for Celts last game vs Nets and JT went crazy on Bridges especially in first half. Can't expect much from Ox, a guy who says Sabonis clears Embiid.
@@kingmark4233 you couldn’t really see the game from way up there in them cheap ass seats you had but let me help you. The difference is that Mikal will have the help of OG, Josh and Mitch which will make his defense even better I know you don’t understand that cause you can’t make a layup with your dominant hand but that’s how hoop works. Get off 2k for a few minutes and go play ball. DWEEB
You can tell it burns swipa that the celtics won this season
Nal what’s really burning him is chill calling Tatum top 5 when he can’t make a shot
@@trytv7716 tatum is top 5 for Me
Joel Embiid shouldn’t be on Team USA, I pray 🙏🏿 they call him back like Kawhi.
Selena is dead wtf lol
celtics won chill got his sundress on
Huh??? Serena is dead
Selina. Spanish singer from the 90’s