Honey Supers, Nine Frame VS Ten Frame | Which Has More Honey

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • I decided to do a quick experiment with the weights of 9 frame supers versus 10 frame supers. I have always said that the difference is significant because I can feel it whenever I move them or strip them off of hives. So in this video, I actually weighed them in a rudimentary fashion. I also found an interesting form of fermentation and I'd like to share what I found. Let's run inside the honey house and see what have found.
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Komentáře • 188

  • @628DirtRooster
    @628DirtRooster Před měsícem +16

    Great info on nine VS ten frame honey supers. Quality control bees were on a smoke break when that high moisture honey was capped.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Those union bees are a real issue here in Louisiana!!

  • @eranorion
    @eranorion Před měsícem +4

    I encourage fermenting Honey. I love the flavour, texture and added digestive benefits. So do my customers, once I introduce them to it. They come back for more faster than regular Honey. I also add fresh pollen to fermented Honey, and the added sweet/tart flavour adds great value, especially nutritionally. AND the fermenting process breaks down the cellular walls of the pollen for easier digestibility. I think an uncapping plane would save you 50% effort on uncapping. Especially on the narrower comb. Keep on keeping on!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I’ve never heard of that in 13 years of beekeeping. Truly fermenting honey will blow the lids off the containers. I’ve seen it break mason jars. I guess if it’s completed it’s fermenting it wouldn’t, but I can’t imagine presenting fermented honey to my customers. I could see it as a niche market, but I don’t think I would do well here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Interesting for sure.

  • @rajbeekie7124
    @rajbeekie7124 Před měsícem +6

    WOW, never knew capped honey could ferment.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Yep, and it an also be high in moisture under the caps. It can be dried when it's capped as well.

  • @gunlinebees.3831
    @gunlinebees.3831 Před měsícem +7

    Mike Berry: "Beautiful examples of God's Creation when it comes to that honeybee and what they do."
    We like it! Gonna make that some Beekeeping News for Sunday Fellowship.
    Y'all have a blessed one!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Hey there Tim! I agree. Love to see God in creation when I'm in nature or my bees. We can easily lose track of that when we get busy and worry about getting 'the job' done. Been out of the town last three weeks and hope to get back to the Sunday evening chat again. Really enjoy you guys.

  • @HaasBuzzHomestead9909
    @HaasBuzzHomestead9909 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks Mike!! I like that uncapping tank!!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před 26 dny

      You’re welcome!! That tank is a nice unit. A bit pricey, especially now that HillCo offers a similar tank. But it has served me well for sure.

  • @tomkingsley4398
    @tomkingsley4398 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks Mike, Good information to know.

  • @brucesbees
    @brucesbees Před měsícem +3

    I love running 9 frames in a 10 frame box. And this year I had quite a few boxes where I ran 8. It is amazing to see how thick those things can get.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      It's also so much easier to uncap. Even with our average tallow, they built them out so that it was easy money cutting them off.

  • @jaycustard4711
    @jaycustard4711 Před 23 dny +2

    I think hive beetles are responsible for fermentation in my hives seems if I have beetles running around those are the frames that “leak”

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před 23 dny +1

      Could very well be. Usually they break the caps open, but who knows. It’s a mess and for sure ruined that box for me. Thanks for sharing the insight!

  • @OutdoorsandCountryLiving
    @OutdoorsandCountryLiving Před měsícem +2

    Nice work. I’d say you did well this year and it will be nice to get that bottled up and sold. :) blessings!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks. It's been a banner year for sure. Have to get the final 15 supers done this week sometime.

  • @ThatBeeMan
    @ThatBeeMan Před měsícem +2

    Yeasts are a naturally occurring constituent of honey. Elevated levels of yeast can cause fermentation at otherwise acceptable moisture levels.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Yessir. To me that’s always the wildcard. We don’t know by sight the actual yeast content when numerous sources are involved. Frustrating when we don’t know. I only wish I’d known what hive. I have a suspicion that airflow in the hive was low allowing the humidity to get high under the caps due to our weather. With the yeast content and the amount of water it just fermented in the frame. A lot of the honey in the frames was good and only the edges fermented, so that’s a clue as well. It’s the first I’ve seen in my yard, but we have a few others that are seeing it too. It’s got my attention for sure. Take care Brad!!

    • @ThatBeeMan
      @ThatBeeMan Před měsícem

      @@MikeBarryBees I've been thinking about this. I'm not a master brewer so my understanding is rudimentary. I believe the process of making mead is that you add water and yeast to the honey to make it ferment. The more yeast you add, the higher the alcohol content will be because, the alcohol kills the yeast, stopping fermentation. In the honey in the frame, if the yeast content was high along with a high water content, the fermentation process could start but it is the level of yeast concentration that will determine the extent of the fermentation.
      I believe that the acceptable MC of honey does vary depending on nectar source. Why is this? Perhaps this is because different nectar producers also produce different concentrations of yeasts. This fermented honey was along the sides, suggesting that it was collected at a particular time interval. Perhaps there was that kind of nectar collected along with other sources earlier on but it was "diluted" somewhat, stabilizing the fermentation process. Perhaps the "stabilizing" nectar source dried up before the source that's high in yeast and therefore allowed a higher "undiluted" nectar to be deposited in that small location in the frame.
      All speculation, of course. God bless, Mike!

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge3624 Před 29 dny +1

    We call it mead honey a gift of the gods and it’s bringing you to the Walhalla

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před 28 dny

      Well, I’m not sure I’d call it mead at this point. Need controlled fermentation to really make a good mead and it’s kind of too far gone. I’ll let the natural be pollinators enjoy it this go around😁😁

  • @michaelfike7542
    @michaelfike7542 Před měsícem +3

    I found 17% works great on extracting and uncapping. If it's a little bit more i just dry it for a day or two. Great harvest congratulations

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I agree. Ideal for flowing out. I have been getting 16.5 on average after drying on the boxes.

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 Před měsícem +1

    I like thicker combs. I use Lazutin frames 1.5 inches thick. Basically a double deep Langstroth frame.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I feel like they just make it so much easier. Thanks for watching!

  • @mustrumridcully3853
    @mustrumridcully3853 Před měsícem +1

    In the Uk we can buy "DRONE" foundation wax. It means they draw out bigger cells, using less wax in the process.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      We have drone foundation as well. It’s just not priced right for me to run for all the frames in my supers. It’s used here in the US more for more control and controlling drone come between the frames.

  • @esericc70
    @esericc70 Před měsícem +3

    I am guessing the fermentation is due to the plastic butler trapping the moisture in the box and it permeates the honey weather capped or not, like a brick of cheese in a baggie you need to use paper towels to collect moisture from the cheese, plastic notoriously keeps moisture in and the moisture turns into water drops etc, Im thinking it soaks back into the cell capped or not.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      No, that’s not what happened. It came off the hover board fermented. It was in the super and as I pulled the frames, I saw it. I put it in the hive butler to isolate it. It fermented on the hive. It happens from time to time and have heard of it from a couple club members as well.

  • @vandubay
    @vandubay Před měsícem +1

    Great video Mike! Thank you for showing the fermenting frame! I hadn’t seen that before.

  • @sarashappyhives1828
    @sarashappyhives1828 Před měsícem +2

    Indiana has a lot of humidity and I have found the fermentation happening in the frames. I’ve been feeding it back to the bees, thanks Mike! 😎🐝☀️

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Good to know! I was curious of what to do with it and wasn't sure if it would be bad for gut health on the bees. It's not entire frames either, so it should be fine and seems like you're having success. Thanks for the insight!!

    • @sarashappyhives1828
      @sarashappyhives1828 Před měsícem

      @@MikeBarryBees You bet, Mike! The fermented honey is also good for baking, I just learned recently that it has been referred to as “baker’s honey”

  • @ericfrance3241
    @ericfrance3241 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks Mike! 2,500 lbs. of honey is a lot to sell. I know you’re at the Farmers Market. I sell every other week at a Farmers Market in Denver, May through October, with lots of long time customers. I sell 850 lbs. a year. How do you sell 2,500 lbs. in a year? I’d love a video with more info on this topic! I will produce 1,800 pounds this year and need to find other venues. Thanks!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Well, I don't sell all of it in a year. Some carries over and for example, last season when we only did a 50% yield of 1800lbs. the 3000lbs. from the previous year saved us and we were able to keep selling when others were out. Everyone had a terrible year last season due to the late freeze. Most beekeepers only did a 50% yield. Right now we're at a bumper crop of 3400lbs. with 15 more supers to be extracted and I'll just sell each week and to our regulars day in and day out. I do one retail account and might sign a second one soon, but that's about it. I don't want to cut myself short should we have another bad season.

  • @russellaymond312
    @russellaymond312 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you Mike for the video.

  • @WildwoodsBeekeeping
    @WildwoodsBeekeeping Před měsícem +2

    First! Hello Mike, I have found that 9 Frames in a 10 frame super, as long as they are spaced out, the bees will draw them out more wider, so they can store more honey in, as long as they are spaced out in a 10 frame super. With no space, 10 frames in a 10 frame super they won’t have enough space to draw the comb out anymore, I’ve tried both, and both work. That’s what I have seen here on the bee Farm. Nice video Mike and thank you for sharing 😁

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Hey there Grayson, thanks for the comment and hop all is well with you all.

  • @researcherAmateur
    @researcherAmateur Před měsícem +1

    All together you still got a solid crop for the year. I had three bad years before this one surprised me with two unexpected flows. I keep thinking how great that long knife is. I have to get me one

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      That was us last year and those surprise years are great for carrying us through when we do have a bad one. That knife is great. I do know that there is a supplier here stateside trying to duplicate it as they worked for Kelley Bees back in the day and that's who made it. It's hard to find that length as well as flexibility and with a serrated edge. It's a unique combination actually.

  • @1bojaq
    @1bojaq Před měsícem +2

    If you extracted a bucket of honey that was high moisture could you put a round food dehydrator on the bucket to lower the moisture? Thankyou keep up the good videos

    • @framcesmoore
      @framcesmoore Před měsícem

      The bee supply just talked about that a humidifier would dry it down. would take a while. it is easier to dry it l
      ike mike does before you extract it.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      It’s hard to get moisture out of honey once it’s in a bucket. The entire bucket could be heated to push moisture out, but that takes a pretty high temp and the flavor is still off a bit as well as cooking off the beneficial enzymes. Pouring it out on a pan and letting it drain back into a bucket in a super dry room works because it creates a lot of surface area for the moisture to be dried works too. Once on the bucket though, it’s not easy to dry down.

  • @hildebrandtrius
    @hildebrandtrius Před měsícem +1

    Great video! I just switched to 9 from 10 today and am so glad I did. Interesting to see the fermentation first hand. It’s kind of you to share.

  • @kevinlyons919
    @kevinlyons919 Před měsícem +1

    Good video Mike and thanks for sharing about the bubbling honey, noticed or heard of that before!

  • @russellkoopman3004
    @russellkoopman3004 Před měsícem +1

    Mike you are a busy man. Hope your August is not so busy. Good info on the fermented cells. I've never seen that. I'm glad you got a bumper crop - two poor ones in a row would be rough. Have a good week.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Thanks Russell, I hope so too. I am still running hard finishing up and a run-in with the flu or something is setting me back. But things are slowing down. You have a great week yourself!!

  • @davidsbeefarm6156
    @davidsbeefarm6156 Před měsícem +1

    Gus Mitchell has a great video on 8 frame spacer in 10 frame box

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I have seen it. I used to keep 9 frame spaces in all of them, but they get too hard to scrape anymore, so I've gone to the manual spacer. Wonder how Gus is. Haven't heard form him at all anymore.

  • @ziggysbees
    @ziggysbees Před měsícem +2

    Hi Mike, I always ran 7 in my 8 frame honey supers. I believe I get much more honey but I made a mistake once and left in 6 frames forgot second position, they filled out that medium frame too 10 PDs 3 oz. Would like to recreate that again.thanks for the fermenting part that was a good learning vid.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Yea, that's quite a frame! If there's a good flow, they'll draw the most uniform and pretty frames and that's an example of having a good flow and just making a huge frame in place of the space you left them.

  • @mikeyd5969
    @mikeyd5969 Před měsícem +1

    I’m with ya Mike 9 phat frames all day long just for the uncapping let alone more honey .

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Yep, I agree. The uncapping part is by far the best benefit. With us folks that cut them by hand, we need easy....

  • @dcsblessedbees
    @dcsblessedbees Před měsícem +1

    Fun days Mike. Thanks for sharing Blessed Day...

  • @scotthern-gi6bt
    @scotthern-gi6bt Před měsícem +1

    You sure get a lot of work done for riding a chicken. You are my inspiration. Super jelous of that extractor. I will be getting one once I get my son through college.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I do all that I can and then push that chicken even more. You will love the HillCo. Great machine.

  • @3Beehivesto300
    @3Beehivesto300 Před měsícem +1

    I did a bunch of my boxes in 8 frame with nailed in spacers.
    Super fat frames. I love the frame spacers.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Yep and very easy to uncap every time!! Thanks for watching!!

  • @tterry53
    @tterry53 Před měsícem +1

    Very interesting. I found the ending really interesting. What can we do with it in case I ever encounter it?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Only thing I can think of is if it’s a lot of fermented honey, then I will throw it out. I
      Don’t want to make a problem for the bee gut health.

  • @jamestownsendjrtbees3226
    @jamestownsendjrtbees3226 Před měsícem +1

    The honey running down is the dead giveaway Mike. Great video and honey season. I had a couple of full deep frames I pulled out to make room a few years ago and I kept them in a sealed cooler in the honey house do the same thing and started blowing bubbles. I don't remember what I did with them. I will try some 9 frame supers next spring. I have always stayed with 10. Good luck this fall with your bees. I started my o/a regimen tonight for the month of August.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Glad you enjoyed the video James!! Give the 9 frame boxes a try. Just do a couple of them and see what you think. It makes uncapping a whole lot easier for sure.

  • @phillipduncan2497
    @phillipduncan2497 Před měsícem +1

    Nice thing about going with one frame less you can save on frame costs. I finished my extracting last week. Even after having an above from a rain perspective my honey moisture pretty much matched up with yours. Had several boxes in the 16% range with one below 16%. Broke in my new Hillco Minimax 9 frame extractor. Boy is it a great investment. Looking forward to seeing you in Louisville.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I agree Phil. One less frame per box on 75 boxes is significant. Glad you like that HillCo. I agree, great investment.

  • @davidsbeefarm6156
    @davidsbeefarm6156 Před měsícem +1

    I love the 8 frame spacers in a 10 frame box. More honey and more wax cappings

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      True. The wax cappings are another great benefit and I failed to mention that. Thanks for the comment!!

  • @wpankey57
    @wpankey57 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @KajunHomestead
    @KajunHomestead Před měsícem +1

    Great video Mike, I learned something about the fermented Honey. Gonna have to start paying more attention.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks Brad!! Yep, I just happened to notice it at the last minute. Only saw that one box. Might have another one that I pulled this week that's I'll be taking a closer look at. Take care, Fallis right around the corner!!

  • @rodneymiddleton9624
    @rodneymiddleton9624 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks Mike!

  • @nancynolton6079
    @nancynolton6079 Před měsícem +1

    So can you make mead with that fermented honey? God bless you too!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      No, not really. Mead needs to be a controlled process to make it properly and to the right flavor..

  • @gregdunn8208
    @gregdunn8208 Před měsícem +1

    Great video Mike. I've never seen honey fermented in the capped honey before....and hope I never do!! Thanks for the info.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks Greg and sure enjoyed visiting y'all last week. Hope to make it out to BBQ with you guys next month.

  • @3Beehivesto300
    @3Beehivesto300 Před měsícem +1

    You can put the fermented honey into a pail with a band heater. 120 deg for bit and the alcohol flashes off and kills the fermentation.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I’ve heated mildly fermented honey a few years ago and the flair was just really off when it was done.

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks Mike. Getting ready to harvest honey in a couple of weeks. Gonna build me a sugar shack some day.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      My pleasure and hope your harvest goes great!!

  • @tommychew6544
    @tommychew6544 Před měsícem +2

    Great video! I've never seen that before! I'm not in it for the honey just the bees, even though I know I will likely have to deal with an abundance at some point. Great job on your part to point that out! I wonder if bees do or don't prefer that leaking honey during a dearth in your hot area? We don't know everything we think we do about bees, may have to put Fred Dunn on looking into this, at least research wise, he lives all the way up in PA. Gets the old brain housing group working!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Yep, that would be a good question for him. Last week i rode about half the southern shore of Lake Erie and then later found out I was only mere miles form Fred. That would've been a great stop. But I did get to stop and see Brian from Castle Hives and Greg from Nature's Image Farm.

  • @viahoneybees
    @viahoneybees Před měsícem

    Love the video, Mike! Jokes were great. Even the " chicken legs"!😂

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for the support. Hope you all are well. I try to keep up with yall in FB.

  • @Grantski2007
    @Grantski2007 Před měsícem +1

    A 20% higher yield in each box is huge. Although I’m sure the frame itself weighs a bit
    Nice season love the videos

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Yes indeed it is. To be exact though, you're right. the frame weight has to be taken into consideration. And the difference in the medium box weights as well. An empty weight would have been good, but no time for that. In the end, if I have the frame a weight of one pound and even then a one pound differential between the supers, we still should be about 7 pounds heavier. I think it's well worth running the nines, or even eights, in ten frame boxes. I always could feel the difference when lifting and I usually only have about 10 boxes in total each year that are ten frame boxes. All the rest are nines out of about 80 boxes. Glad you enjoy the videos and thanks so much for the support!!

  • @doctortcbkk2027
    @doctortcbkk2027 Před měsícem +1

    I’m just a backyard keeper with 6 colonies and it’s a lot of work. I’d love to see how you rinse and clean all your honey equipment. I’m literally in my driveway with the hose and dawn soap! 😅😅

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Well, honestly, that's how I do it. Not outside though. I have my on-demand water heater plumbed with a water bib and I have a hose in the honey house. I I just rinse it out in there and drain the rinse into a bucket as I go and then run the buckets outside. Keeps the bees at bay since I'm inside. But same as you, hot water and dawn. I'll shoot some footage when I get these last boxes extracted.

  • @Honeyacrefarms
    @Honeyacrefarms Před měsícem +1

    Hey Mike I’d never seen the fermenting honey before. Just checked on some five frame nucs and had 8 of them with fermenting honey and bubbling. The strange part is we are in a dearth so I’ve been feeding 1:1 with hive alive supplement which is supposed to keep it from fermenting. Something new everyday.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Yep, just when you think you've seen it all, something new will pop up to keep us on our toes. Thanks for watching!!

  • @spiritoftoad
    @spiritoftoad Před měsícem +1

    Caps are not airtight. If honey has to sit, it needs a dehumidifier in the room. That's why I asked about the fridge on your livestream.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I dry my honey for two to five days in a 35% humid room with box fans directly over the supers prior to extracting which I’ve showed in a few videos and also have explained just what you’re saying about the caps. The frames were fermented on the hive and came off the hive in that condition. They were dried as well, but as you know, once fermented, no amount of dyeing is going to fix that. Only heat and a a relatively high heat. It happens from time to time and this is the first time I saw it first hand.

  • @FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat
    @FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat Před měsícem +1

    Well, you know the 9 frame has one frame less wood in it. So that would mean, taking wood into account, there should be a little more than 9lb there.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Yes, that’s what I was saying with that note I did in that screen shot. The boxes would have to be weighed empty. In the end, it’s not that much for one frame, and either way, there’s a significant difference in nine versus ten. Almost 3 gallons in a 9 and 2.5 in a 10.

  • @StanGore-mk8ow
    @StanGore-mk8ow Před měsícem +2

    man oh man!!! awesome Mike...you a hard worker....where you buy your buckets? They look like good ones.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Hey there Stan. You were the inspiration for this video. I get my buckets at Home Depot and Lowe's They sell the really nice snap on lids that can be used over and over again and the food grade buckets are good quality.

    • @StanGore-mk8ow
      @StanGore-mk8ow Před měsícem

      Love it!!❤

  • @time2fly2124
    @time2fly2124 Před měsícem +1

    in a hurry to pull all my supers off, even if they aren't capped, because were actually seeing some goldenrod starting to turn yellow up here. i know there is different species of goldenrod, and theres some that bloom before the main stuff, but that just means the main stuff isnt far behind. SUPER early this year, doesnt usually start full bloom until early september.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I saw some golden rod just about to bloom up in Ontario and also in New York state just last week. When we see that, we're a month away form cool evenings and I love it!!

  • @PeabodysApiary
    @PeabodysApiary Před měsícem

    Great video Mike thanks, love running 9’s

  • @johnmarshall6572
    @johnmarshall6572 Před měsícem +3

    Time to make mead!

  • @jamescanderson1302
    @jamescanderson1302 Před měsícem +1

    Mike, Can you give me the manufacture of your capping knife. Thin is in and it worked well. Quite a lot better than the hot knife etc

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      It actually was from Kelley Bees back when they weren’t owned by Mann Lake. There is know brand name on it. I do know that HillCo is researching the size and wanting to duplicate one, but that’s not quite there yet. Sorry, wish I knew where to get one like it.

  • @MinnesotaBeekeeper
    @MinnesotaBeekeeper Před měsícem +1

    S 5 to 10 pounds more. Thank you Mike.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I agree. Worth it for me and so much easier to uncap.

  • @kathyhathaway8823
    @kathyhathaway8823 Před měsícem +1

    Hello Mike . I have a few things to talk about ( you would have not thought any differently.)LOL . I have also heard of the honey doing that but never saw or knew what it looked like . Well
    I know what to
    Look for now . I checked my single heavy medium frame this year an it was 9.8 lbs . I was surprised but I know other people has probably had heavier because this one was thick BUT it was not smooth thick an pretty . Ok this year I had the oddest I had a super I had in my drying room for over a week and a half. I did not check moisture to start in this super oh ya there was ten other supers in there with this one but after a week an a half all the other moisture was like 14 3/4 but this one super is still over 23 an looking purple in coloring .I extracted it an put whatever it is in a different container to keep it away from the other honey . 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️Thanks

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Hmm, that's interesting. I know Jody in NC was getting purple honey, but they say it's from some coloring from a soda pop plant. They get it every so often, but I don't think it was high moisture. I wonder what that could've been? For it not to dry out is unusual, or at least for it not to dry at all. At least it's not mixed up. Warning it could dry it, but I have to wonder if its true nectar at all and maybe a sugar syrup or food product and it being not real nectar, it' not able to be dried. You know, if they got into something at a food processing plant or the soda pop factory. Very strange for sure.

    • @kathyhathaway8823
      @kathyhathaway8823 Před měsícem

      @@MikeBarryBees ya you are correct it is very strange an I am about five miles from town an nothing I can think of it being . It really blowed my mind. I have it here in a gallon jug . I think when the NC inspecter call me about my dead bee testing I will talk to her about it. I guess it is anyone’s guess what it is. Thanks for you input it is always welcome. Thanks

  • @tennesseebeesinc.1103
    @tennesseebeesinc.1103 Před měsícem +1

    PHAT 😂😂😂 Awesomeness

  • @2002bam
    @2002bam Před měsícem +1

    Bad Bob Bee's do you put the fermented frames out for the bee's to clean up?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      You know, I’m not sure what I’ll do with it. The frames are only partially fermented on the edges, so I might do that. But I’ve never really run into a big amount of fermentation in honey. What little I have had has been a small 3 gallon bucket that I kind of knew would ferment and I threw it away. I don’t think a large amount is good for the bees. It’s actually still in the hive bugler and I need to do something with it.

  • @g8rgrl13
    @g8rgrl13 Před měsícem +1

    P-H-A-T fat.....had me laughing so hard

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for watching!!

  • @jonclemons1421
    @jonclemons1421 Před měsícem +1

    What will you do withe the fermented frames and the honey? Can you sell it for making meade?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      No Jon, I’ll feed some of the better frames back and throw away the majority of the fermented stuff. I don’t think it can be made into mead since the fermenting is not being controlled. I hear that a lot but I don’t think it’s as simple as making it into mead since the fermentation process needs to be regulated and controlled as to the amount.

  • @brucesbees
    @brucesbees Před měsícem +1

    I’ve never seen honey that fermented before. Especially not in the frames. Interesting. 🧐

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I've only ever heard about it and saw it in a picture one time. It was easy to see once I noticed it.

  • @1bojaq
    @1bojaq Před měsícem +2

    Have you tried an electric filet knife? I tried it and like the way it works.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I have not tried that. I’ve talked about it but never tried it.

  • @rickyyeldell7262
    @rickyyeldell7262 Před měsícem

    Good video. Thanks.

  • @keithspillman
    @keithspillman Před měsícem +1

    Great video Mike, and congratulations on a successful harvest!!! I've never seen the "bubbly honey" before. VERY interesting. So, this honey would have fermented on the hive if you had left it? Need to see if those bees signed off on the OJT sheet!! 😆Question....who made your uncapping tank? That's on my list for purchase at The Expo this year. Take care and THANKS as always!!!!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Thanks Keith. I am betting the bees would've cleaned up the honey if it would've finished bubbling out, or they would've been overrun by beetles and absconded...if they were weak. Not sure. I have the Maxant tank. It's pretty nice, but it has a huge price tag on it when you see it on their website. I bought it before HillCo was in business and I've looked at John's and it's every bit as nice and with a nicer price. He's improved his tank since his very first model. His first model wasn't as nice as the maxant, but the current tank is everything the maxant is.

  • @johniac7078
    @johniac7078 Před měsícem +1

    Are you riding a chicken? LOLOL That is ia good one brother! Great vid as always. 9 frames are the ticket!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for watching!!

  • @taddrienstra7247
    @taddrienstra7247 Před měsícem +2

    The old adage of "if its capped, its ok" is bull. I have tested capped honey here in HI over 22%

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Same with tallow. It can easily be 19 to 20 percent capped. Take care Tad!

  • @FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat
    @FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat Před měsícem +1

    Have you tried making mead? I've been making natural hedgrow wines the last three years. I've yet to have a bad batch using mother nature's wild yeast from the fruit or flowers. I guess you'd add some water and see how it turns out. I've never made mead. Not had any honey yet.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      No, I never have. I know people that make it and it needs to be started from honey that isn't already fermenting so the process can be controlled.

  • @josephrawls
    @josephrawls Před měsícem +1

    The capping crew got ahead of the drying crew. Must have been state worker bees. 😆🤣 I can say that because I was a state worker. 😁

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I can say that too because I'm a state worker...LOL!!!

  • @meloneycrews
    @meloneycrews Před měsícem +1

    Hi Mike..as always great video…we just came across 2 frames of fermenting honey in a box..with the other frames not fermented and about 18%🤷‍♀️crazy..not sure what the deal is?? Let us know what your thoughts are.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I'm stumped as well Meloney. I checked my honey randomly as it was coming out of the extractor and everything else seems to be just fine. Maybe they got into something else as they were finishing the frame?? Who knows. I just need to keep and eye out. I'm hearing about a lot of it this season over here. Hope you guys are well!!

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge3624 Před měsícem +1

    Greatest one, soon you’ll be the king bee

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Well, I don't know about that....Thanks for watching!

  • @bobk4249
    @bobk4249 Před měsícem +1

    New to bee keeping, how do you store your frames after extracting honey

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I store them under an outside shed so that light and air can get thru them and they do fine over the winter and early spring.

  • @martenapperloo1055
    @martenapperloo1055 Před měsícem +1

    Could you feed the fermented back to the bees Barry.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      In this small amount I will probably feed it back since only the edges are fermented on about four frames, but I don’t want to feed a lot back to them. I don’t believe a lot of fermented honey is good for their guts.

  • @mikecatalanottojr41
    @mikecatalanottojr41 Před měsícem +2

    Hey buddy. The fruit stand is in desperate need of a good honey supplier.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Well, they can give me a call. Number is on my container. Last time I went by there, the guy wasn't very interested at all. I'd be happy to supply them if they are want.

  • @craigkirich9646
    @craigkirich9646 Před měsícem +1

    Hi Mike. Have you calibrated the refractometer lately? I've a problem in Pittsburgh with dry honey. We pull 15.5- 16.5 even the uncapped is hazed. I had a friend (who can afford that $400 one) to check it. I saw your flow at 16.5 and that's running a little fast ;) I take the boxes up to 100 degrees in a hot room even to get an extraction and it's frustrating how much stays in. Cutting 9 frames is essential to get the most honey for me. Upgraded to the hillco 9 from the 6 I had before, great machines! See you at EXPO and God bless.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I did do the calibration on the refractometer. One thing also I read was that it needed to be used in a similar temperature as to where it was calibrated. I need to do another one on it, but the readings are consistent so far. I had the opportunity for one of those fancy ones from a company that wanted me to try theirs's on a video, but I turned them down. I don't like dealing with too many international companies if I can help it. I've kept my room at 8o or so this year and it has dried the honey pretty well. Congrats on the new extractor. Great products from HillCo.

  • @SylantBill
    @SylantBill Před měsícem +1

    Quick question, how long does it take for honey to ferment?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I don’t know the answer to that. I’m pretty sure it varies from nectar to nectar based on sugar, moisture, and yeast contents since they vary from each type of nectar. It does take some amount of time, but I imagine it could be as soon as 30 days if it’s high in yeast and moisture.. just not sure.

    • @SylantBill
      @SylantBill Před měsícem

      @@MikeBarryBees thanks Mike

  • @donbearden1953
    @donbearden1953 Před měsícem +1

    Mike, I’m sorry some of your honey fermented. I guess if you were a meade maker it wouldn’t be a total loss. I am thankful that it wasn’t any more than that. Hopefully by the time you get what you left on the hives you will break your record. Great video!

    • @gallowaylights
      @gallowaylights Před měsícem +1

      Diddo 😮 a strong drink

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks Don. I definitely broke my old record. I'm about 400 lbs over at this point and have about 15 boxes to go. Hope to finally wrap up this week when I can get recovered from this flu or whatever it is. Hope you're doing well my friend!!

  • @mackseckinger1857
    @mackseckinger1857 Před měsícem +1

    How many hives do you run

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      About 40 with about 30 of those as production hives.

  • @researcherAmateur
    @researcherAmateur Před měsícem +1

    You should see what l extracted last week and it's still going. It's like marmalade coming out of the extractor.. dark and thick honeydew from a cicada/ aphid coming from your part of the world. The Metcalfa cicada.. the brunches on the blackberries are all white from them. Google says it's from south US and central America. It's only the second time l got it and it's already all sold out in Austria. Even before I pulled it all out. They love it up there.. calling it forest honey.
    I can't believe you can't make good honeydew in some parts of US. This Metcalfa from over there gives much more than our regular aphids. It's full with minerals and diabetics can eat it. But it's bad for bees to winter.. it must be extracted. It's too expensive for bees anyway 😂.
    Did you ever seen a stack of 6 deeps with 6 frames per box ? Write Jezda Pcelar . When you're in a black locust forest...

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      The only aphid honeydew I've seen came form the standing pines in Florida and it was like burned diesel motor oil and tasted about the same. Not sure if the cicada was in there, but that stuff was awful. Glad what you're getting some that tastes good. I think I still have the bottle around here somewhere. It never crystallized....

    • @researcherAmateur
      @researcherAmateur Před 29 dny

      @@MikeBarryBees Haha, yeah it doesn't crystallize. I never had honeydew that crystallized. And I never tasted a bad tasting one... who knows, it could be the plants or the land. They do need perfect conditions.. humidity at night and very hot days. And the wasps have to let them multiply before anything else... It's one of those honeys that you get 5- 10 times in your 50 year career. At least where l am.
      That last part.. l had a friend who used to stack 6 deep boxes with 6 frames in each. But he's gone.. only some of his videos are still on..

  • @brucesbees
    @brucesbees Před měsícem +1

    Are those your legs or are you riding a chicken? Haha!!! Good stuff Mike! You are busy! And I understand that for sure.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      I know you do understand Bruce. As I've said so many times, I don't know how you do it my friend.

  • @gregmiller1951
    @gregmiller1951 Před měsícem

    Great video Mike.
    I really like your honey house set up!
    What are the dimensions of your honey house?
    Thanks again!

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Thanks Greg!! Glad you enjoyed it. The homey house is 12' X 30'. I would suggest wider over longer, or just wider. If I could do it again, I'd go at least 14' wide minimum. But when I started building it, I was planning for climate controlled storage and not a honey house.

  • @villainousssb533
    @villainousssb533 Před měsícem +1

    Sooooo is it time to make some mead

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I supposed, but the last thing I need is another project to take on...LOL!!

  • @redfish440
    @redfish440 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks Mike. Is that your legs or are you riding a chicken 😂, Mr Ed is gonna have a field day with that one, thanks again my friend, God bless you

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks and I'm surprised he hasn't called me yet...LOL!!

  • @garden7799
    @garden7799 Před měsícem +1

    My honey gets almost rock hard in about 4 weeks ... anybody know why this happens? Need to get a honey refractometer ....

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      That’s crystallization. Different levels of sugars in different nectars means some raw honey gets solid faster. That’s the simple explanation. Raw honey crystallizes, most of it, and some faster than others. Some not at all for many months.

  • @danielholtxxl4936
    @danielholtxxl4936 Před 10 dny +1

    What did you mean you put it in your "hive butler"?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před 10 dny

      I have a hive butler sealable tote that holds ten frames. It can be used to put empty or full frames in and it can be used to catch swarms in. I just put the frames in there to keep all the honey from being mixed up with any good frames.

    • @danielholtxxl4936
      @danielholtxxl4936 Před 10 dny

      @@MikeBarryBees Ahh, Ok. Thanks for putting out such great videos.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před 10 dny

      @@danielholtxxl4936 you’re welcome and thanks so much for the support!! Glad you enjoy them.

  • @christalakebees
    @christalakebees Před měsícem +1

    How do you like the hive butler?

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      Love it!! Great container and very versatile.

  • @martinr6107
    @martinr6107 Před měsícem +1

    We run 8 in a 10 frame. Nothin better.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem +1

      I know a couple folks that also run 8 in a 10. So much easier to cut when they're thick.

    • @martinr6107
      @martinr6107 Před měsícem

      We use a simple harmony farms uncapper. Wind up with much less cappings wax and damaged comb . Bees can get right back to work filling.

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      @@martinr6107 that uncapped was developed and made about 5 miles from me by Jason. I remember his first prototype he was testing.

    • @martinr6107
      @martinr6107 Před měsícem

      Pricey, but a good time/comb saver.

  • @graemediesel2936
    @graemediesel2936 Před měsícem

    Maybe your bees wanted some mead

    • @MikeBarryBees
      @MikeBarryBees  Před měsícem

      They might have, or they had a rough night on the town....Bee do crazy things...LOL!!